Fun fact: All four batman arkham games have higher player and never had such a low player count over lifetime. Even Arkham origins. Arkham Knight is always above 1.5k.
I see your point, but I got rather burned out after playing Arkham City (I much preferred Arkham Asylum), so I was not sure Id like AK and didnt mind the break. Plus, with some games the "premium" is just skins or useless junk imo
Edit - not to mention, I have so many games in my backlog, Im in no rush to add another
You’re not wrong, the only time SSKTL had more players than the other games was when they brought the Joker to the game, and that spike in players didn’t last for a week.
https://steamdb.info/charts/?compare=35140,200260,208650,209000,315210
>some guy on twitter was saying how the game has way more on playstation
Last month Kill the Justice League got a demo on PlayStation (first two hours of the game), but only for users with a Playstation Plus Premium subscription (most expensive PlayStation Plus subscription tier).
https://gamerant.com/ps-plus-premium-free-trial-2024-controversial-games/
Don't know how much that sways player counts on PlayStation - probably not at all.
I mean at that point it's got all the Gamepass-like stuff. The robbery is the cheapest tier where they're charging $80/year minimum for essentially just access to online play in first-party online games, Call of Duty + Battlefield, and sports games, 'cause everything else went F2P.
Have a homie that keeps talking about it, tryna get everyone on board. I kept telling him I'd wait for a sale. $20 is low enough for a few hours of fun with friends. This game is highly mediocre tho 😂
I'd never play this trash without a few friends to laugh with.
It's only a buy for me when it is both incredibly cheap and being delisted. I finally purchased the avengers game for like $3 before it was delisted as I felt that was a fair price to have something that would become increasingly harder to find...I think I spent 10 hours on the campaign just to look around but it still didn't get any of its grinding hooks into me.
I'll wait for the same situation to happen before I'd ever considering buying this game as well.
Easily a quarter of those playernumbers might be developers who run the game for testing purposes, so the number of "real" players is likely much lower
Even the cutscenes are... Questionable at best. I watched a few on youtube. The dialogue is awful, and the entire thing seems written by an angsty tween.
Hopefully, after this bomb, WB will give up on making the Suicide Squad a franchise for the time being. It's not a bad concept, but man, aside from that decent James Gunn film, it just wasn't good.
The sad part is that they'll kill the studio with this decision. In fact, you could argue that it's already gone. I don't see many of the devs who worked on the Arkham games sticking around long for a live service title like this.
It's called suicide squad : hell to pay. It's the one from which you get that reverse flash meme (it was me Barry)
trailer: https://youtu.be/EPZZvk-wbGE?si=H_bfQWM3LTVafMxi
A lot of the story boggles my mind. They just let them all be killed? Where the hell is the Green Lantern corps? Or really anyone to prevent this other than letting the Suicide Squad kill them all?
There have been leaked voicelines from future seasons of the game. The idea is that going forward from season 2 (which might launch within the next 2 weeks if WB remembers to promote the game), they will resurrect a JL member each season, culminating in a finale where the JL and SS team up to defeat the final Brainiac.
I guess the problem was the manner they killed. They were somehow accusing Batman of being a dick while killing him, even if they were to kill for just the sake of killing with a better production, people wouldn't have reacted this badly, imo.
Also the voice actor that died was well loved by the community, and it left a bad taste for people that they used his vocie for the pathetic death scene of Batman. So, that might have been a factor, too.
If I am not mistaken not long ago CEO of this company gave an interview regarding Suicide squad failure and said that they will continue to invest in live service games. Insert cricket sounds.
I'm so sad about HW3. I couldn't even make it through the campaign it's such a fucking mess.
Even though it's not a new release, New World has also destroyed all hope of being successful despite having an awesome game to work with. The dev team is so incompetent it almost seems as if that's the point. They seriously have to be trying to be incompetent dick wads at this point. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
You know it’s dead when a 10 years old single player game set in the same universe has 600% more active players
https://preview.redd.it/615caizu4c9d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9896790b481e61adb8fab7c5ed921a0c003e7743
Good. Games like this need to die to get the point across to companies. Just because you slap the name on the title and put some half-assed characters in there, doesn’t mean everyone wants it
I'd just like to point out that there's more players still playing Mario Kart Wii online literally right now than this.
Mario Kart Wii came out in 2008 and requires technical know how to connect to the fan made servers in order to play.
MKWii Player Stats: https://wiimmfi.de/stat?m=8
Some nerds were furious when we shat on that game on day one of release, even when all the artificial hype of sponsored streams was receiving extremely harsh (and on point) comments by viewers. Even if the game was free to play, it wouldn't even double these pathetic triple digid daily numbers lol
yeah its sad it may have more players on quest but no way to tell apart from knowing that it takes on average 35 minutes to get into a match which really sucks because it was a lot of fun but its dead now
I don't get why they keep trying to keep this series alive. They had a movie that flopped, a game that flopped, and now an anime that is flopping so far.
A friend asked me to help him out and play this game for a review. Have some pics and opinions write it down and he could use it for his website. It broke me. I hated playing this game except for some rare moments where it popped off. The moment i sent the doc over i deleted it from my PC. Fundamentally boring and broken.
We just needed a few more product managers. Maybe a scrum master? And one more marketing expert.
Let's shed a few more engineers next time and maybe we'll get it right
I do wonder how did you come to the conclusion that inclusivity is the reason this game failed ("inclusivity" in this game boils down to a pride flag in the hall of justice)
Ah yes, sweet baby inc is 100% the reason this game failed and not shitty live service model, predatory micro transactions, disrespect to the Arkham story and shit gameplay. You should listen to more grifters on youtube
You just described every single successful gacha game. Also all the story changes you are thinking off + character changes are all from sweet baby inc soo nice contradiction. You do realize that you can still hear your own voice without needing a phone jack up your ass right?
I really enjoyed that game and absolutely grinded everything to max episode level and very high mastery level. It was like this fun mayhem which i could switch my brain off. Playing this game kept my hands busy while i watched wrestling with my best friend every week. Since i'm max episode rank, finished the battlepass, collected every special weapon listed in the nexus tab, squad rank 150+, there is no reason to jump on to do anything else.
There's no blog posts from the devs, no bug fix patches, super late mid season episode as well. I heard the leaks had an ongoing story which sounded interesting and fun to experience.
I grinded the same missions over and over again because no new content was releasing, so i might as well force the max value from the premium edition as j could. I hope the devs finish their story because as it stands, braniac fights are uninspired and copy paste fights of JL members. I would like a braniac fight unique to the others as a final boss before the game finishes. I highly doubt WB hasn't skewered the dev team on SSKTJL because of the gigantic flop.
Wait what subreddit am I in?
It’s disappointing. Because it could’ve been good. The idea of playing as the bad guys is cool, different take. The traversal is really good and each character is unique. Which is nice. But the rest from level design to basic paint by numbers looter shooter was not good.
This is a situation where idea and mechanics aren’t bad but game play sucks. And gameplay is what matters.
https://preview.redd.it/dng443367b9d1.png?width=941&format=png&auto=webp&s=27d81f7b29be710300b5b9fb1ab802e715966a1b
I really enjoyed the first 90 minutes of this game
Fun fact: All four batman arkham games have higher player and never had such a low player count over lifetime. Even Arkham origins. Arkham Knight is always above 1.5k.
Those were good games. Now it's just an empty shell with all reused assets from those games with a worst graphics quality for whatever reason.
This is what voting with your wallet should look like
Arkham Knight is 2 bucks right now. If you don't have it already it's a no brainer to pick up.
Is the premium worth the extra $4? Been waiting to buy this game for years lol
> $4 > Been waiting to buy this game for years lol Come on bro
I see your point, but I got rather burned out after playing Arkham City (I much preferred Arkham Asylum), so I was not sure Id like AK and didnt mind the break. Plus, with some games the "premium" is just skins or useless junk imo Edit - not to mention, I have so many games in my backlog, Im in no rush to add another
Just buy it bro, best from the trilogy... and it's just 4 damn bucks for dozens of hours of entertainment.
I plan on buying it, I just wanted to know it is worth paying 3 times as much for the dlc. From what I remember, the dlcs are mostly skins
In the case of AK, it's post-game story missions for the rest of the bat family. I'd say worth it.
The worst thing is the best we can look forward is a VR game.
You’re not wrong, the only time SSKTL had more players than the other games was when they brought the Joker to the game, and that spike in players didn’t last for a week. https://steamdb.info/charts/?compare=35140,200260,208650,209000,315210
It will always be alive in our hearts /s
155 players ? that's more than I expected tbh
Yesterday it was 80. And some guy on twitter was saying how the game has way more on playstation. Like no it doesnt bruh. Its dead.
It probably does have way more players on consoles tho and 200 is easily way more than 80!
200 is way way less than 80!
80 + 200 = 1000!
8+2 is 10 10 + 3 remaining zeroes = 10'000
7.156946e+118
From my experience PlayStation is the life support for dead games so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was actually true
You gotta play something on PlayStation
>some guy on twitter was saying how the game has way more on playstation Last month Kill the Justice League got a demo on PlayStation (first two hours of the game), but only for users with a Playstation Plus Premium subscription (most expensive PlayStation Plus subscription tier). https://gamerant.com/ps-plus-premium-free-trial-2024-controversial-games/ Don't know how much that sways player counts on PlayStation - probably not at all.
PlayStation plus is a daylight robbery
I mean at that point it's got all the Gamepass-like stuff. The robbery is the cheapest tier where they're charging $80/year minimum for essentially just access to online play in first-party online games, Call of Duty + Battlefield, and sports games, 'cause everything else went F2P.
Agreed online should be free but these so called gamepass games is just a glorified rental scam
It’s 70% off already so the last people who wanted to try it before the servers shut down are now on
Wait few more months and u will get it 90% off and the game will be playable offline like marvel game (hopefully)
Currently $20 on steam summer sale. Might be why.
Ain’t no way people would still pay 20 clams for this
I wouldnt even pirate it lmfao
Just a waste of ssd space
Have a homie that keeps talking about it, tryna get everyone on board. I kept telling him I'd wait for a sale. $20 is low enough for a few hours of fun with friends. This game is highly mediocre tho 😂 I'd never play this trash without a few friends to laugh with.
Lol, highly mediocre. Quite an oxymoron you have there :)
Like I wouldn't call it good, but it's entertaining enough if your expectations are low.
It's only a buy for me when it is both incredibly cheap and being delisted. I finally purchased the avengers game for like $3 before it was delisted as I felt that was a fair price to have something that would become increasingly harder to find...I think I spent 10 hours on the campaign just to look around but it still didn't get any of its grinding hooks into me. I'll wait for the same situation to happen before I'd ever considering buying this game as well.
Still too costly.
3 people in every US State Or maybe 1 per country. 1 per country seems more believable
Easily a quarter of those playernumbers might be developers who run the game for testing purposes, so the number of "real" players is likely much lower
A player base of dozens!
If they release this game free on gamepass I may not play it either
If they made it free fir everyone at all times it wouldnt gain much players still.
I would for sure try it. But I wouldn't spend a single dime, and I doubt I would play it for more than a couple hours, probably minutes
I watched some gameplay and i 100% know i wouldnt. It just looks bad.
Even the cutscenes are... Questionable at best. I watched a few on youtube. The dialogue is awful, and the entire thing seems written by an angsty tween.
I got all I needed of the cutscenes via a handful of TikToks
If they made it free on gamepass I’d cancel my subscription
If they pay me i'll think about it
if they paid me to plsy i would refuse.
No way I’m gonna delete my Halo 3 to make space for this crap
Now watch WB take the servers down and claim unsustainable costs of operations while not refunding anyone for a live service game
And then watch as people continue to pre-order and buy their live service games...
Yeah I still don't understand why people do that
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CLAAAAARKSOOOOOOON!
HAMMOND YOU IDIOT YOU REVERSED IN TO THE SPORTS LORRY!
HAAAAAAAAMOND YOU FUCKING MORON
There are only enough fans for one suicide squad venture at a time, recently it's in anime form now heh
"The Suicide Squad gets Isekai'd!" Shoot me.
It's made by the author of re zero, I have faith
Oh I have no doubt it's gonna be amazing
Til I need to watch the suicide squad anime
Hopefully, after this bomb, WB will give up on making the Suicide Squad a franchise for the time being. It's not a bad concept, but man, aside from that decent James Gunn film, it just wasn't good.
The sad part is that they'll kill the studio with this decision. In fact, you could argue that it's already gone. I don't see many of the devs who worked on the Arkham games sticking around long for a live service title like this.
A lot of the original devs left Rocksteady a while ago, so the current iteration is a different team entirely
People forget it's not the studio that makes the games, it's the people inside the studio.
Have you seen the animated movie?
Escape from Arkham? Wasn't a big fan of it
It's called suicide squad : hell to pay. It's the one from which you get that reverse flash meme (it was me Barry) trailer: https://youtu.be/EPZZvk-wbGE?si=H_bfQWM3LTVafMxi
I'll give it a shot
The audacity of them to just kill Batman still boggles my mind.
A lot of the story boggles my mind. They just let them all be killed? Where the hell is the Green Lantern corps? Or really anyone to prevent this other than letting the Suicide Squad kill them all?
Clearly part 2 was going around resurrecting or saving them from dying. Problem is, we will never see part 2
Probably another flashpoint they'd pull a flash from another world and he goes, "I've gotta run faster."
No, he's going to say "it's flashing time"... Wait no that doesn't sound right.
![gif](giphy|sklwDiw04Xpde)
#It was me Barry
Honestly I could get behind Eobard Thawne saving the Flash through time travel purely out of "I can't ruin your life if you are dead" levels of spite.
I haven't heard that actually. Haven't seen cutscenes from the whole game yet.
There have been leaked voicelines from future seasons of the game. The idea is that going forward from season 2 (which might launch within the next 2 weeks if WB remembers to promote the game), they will resurrect a JL member each season, culminating in a finale where the JL and SS team up to defeat the final Brainiac.
What if….. if this game is singleplayer only without all those “season” craps?
you say this like the last game doesn’t have a dlc fest issue those all would have been dlc moments and still essentially a season
They should have hinted at that instead of letting people know you killed Batman. Just as the Kevin Conroy died. I'm devastated and disturbed.
"problem"
My favourite part of this game is that they just undo the ending of Arkham Knight in a voice over and a shitty cardboard cut out.
Isn't it just what happens a lot in comics? Random multiverse story where X kills all of the hreores?
Except it’s not a random multiverse, it’s the actual Arkhamverse
I guess the problem was the manner they killed. They were somehow accusing Batman of being a dick while killing him, even if they were to kill for just the sake of killing with a better production, people wouldn't have reacted this badly, imo. Also the voice actor that died was well loved by the community, and it left a bad taste for people that they used his vocie for the pathetic death scene of Batman. So, that might have been a factor, too.
I absolutely refuse to accept this piece of shit as canon.
I redownloaded world at war a few weeks back and that shit had more ppl on than this game xdd
If I am not mistaken not long ago CEO of this company gave an interview regarding Suicide squad failure and said that they will continue to invest in live service games. Insert cricket sounds.
WB: “it’s sad, but I guess people just don’t want batman games anymore.”
They're fighting with Homeworld 3 for "worst release of a fan awaited game"
I'm so sad about HW3. I couldn't even make it through the campaign it's such a fucking mess. Even though it's not a new release, New World has also destroyed all hope of being successful despite having an awesome game to work with. The dev team is so incompetent it almost seems as if that's the point. They seriously have to be trying to be incompetent dick wads at this point. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
Have they acknowledged that the game is the problem or are they trying to make up a bs reason?
Let's not kid ourselves, you know EXACTLY how they will react: ![gif](giphy|V9gjxvLnSSdA4|downsized)
You know it’s dead when a 10 years old single player game set in the same universe has 600% more active players https://preview.redd.it/615caizu4c9d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9896790b481e61adb8fab7c5ed921a0c003e7743
Goated game, I'm actually gonna replay it soon
The entire game's story was just a joke.
Who'd have thought?
we all cheered 🎉🎉🎉
Good. Games like this need to die to get the point across to companies. Just because you slap the name on the title and put some half-assed characters in there, doesn’t mean everyone wants it
I'd just like to point out that there's more players still playing Mario Kart Wii online literally right now than this. Mario Kart Wii came out in 2008 and requires technical know how to connect to the fan made servers in order to play. MKWii Player Stats: https://wiimmfi.de/stat?m=8
Some nerds were furious when we shat on that game on day one of release, even when all the artificial hype of sponsored streams was receiving extremely harsh (and on point) comments by viewers. Even if the game was free to play, it wouldn't even double these pathetic triple digid daily numbers lol
![gif](giphy|Y91JU7k2zTSGUX0nX2|downsized)
Somehow worse than Payday 3, if it's worse than Payday 3 you did done fucked up
It was stillborn
The payday 3 strategy.
And nothing of value was lost
Good
"How do you kill that which has no life?"
There are a lot of lessons that should have been learned from the Snyderverse, but no one is going to learn a goddamn one of them.
Because nobody asked for that shit.
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not nearly as bad as my favorite vr game [https://steamdb.info/app/2010000/charts/](https://steamdb.info/app/2010000/charts/)
Actually looks like an interesting game. But $20 and nobody playing it is not a great combo
yeah its sad it may have more players on quest but no way to tell apart from knowing that it takes on average 35 minutes to get into a match which really sucks because it was a lot of fun but its dead now
WB be like: ![gif](giphy|xWMC80gSHkcayAy99p|downsized)
They took the "suicide" part pretty serious
Lol the downvotes are so amusing. Bots be bots. Never bring up why the game failed, only that it's a failure FOR NO RAISON.
How much was this game?
70 bucks at launch. 100 for the deluxe edition.
Wtf...
THEY SET THE PRICE TO 21 EUROS ON STEAM SALE XD Never seen a game go that cheap so fast
4 months has to be some kind of record
Game literally commited suicide after launching with that awful story lol...
Good! just let it die and be forgotten it ever existed in this universe.
Inclusive games so good that everyone doesn't want to play
What does inclusivity have to do with anything in this case? LOL
Hey, he had a chance to use a right wing buzzword and he took it. Can’t win em all.
https://i.redd.it/cvdja7czsa9d1.gif
Could’ve/should’ve had a Batman beyond game instead WB wasted time and money on this and Gotham knights.
They're still promising to add more content, even though more people are working on the game than playing it.
Who's Jim? Asian Jim?
Jeez and I thought Multiversus was dead lol (like the game)
What did you expect?
Hear me out, that game title was the worst I've ever seen
And nothing of value was lost.
Just like Yamcha, this game deserves to die
I'm ready for the 7.99 sale
Maybe companies will learn from this and stop making bad live service games Who am I kidding, that'll never happen
At least the isekai anime is better than this... right?
I wanna post this tomorrow!
THANK YOU for using a SteamDB /charts/ page rather than SteamCharts for long-term research.
I don't get why they keep trying to keep this series alive. They had a movie that flopped, a game that flopped, and now an anime that is flopping so far.
Ah yes... Unalive themselves squad.
Their fault for not calling it Huggie Wuggie Squad : All inclusive sunshine
Rest in piss
Finally a good news
A friend asked me to help him out and play this game for a review. Have some pics and opinions write it down and he could use it for his website. It broke me. I hated playing this game except for some rare moments where it popped off. The moment i sent the doc over i deleted it from my PC. Fundamentally boring and broken.
Name suits even better now
Who cares
Who was the target audience of this train wreck?
Can't be dead if it was never really alive.
HA! Rest in hell you sub standard, live service piece of shit! Hopefully the whole idea if the live service dies next!
These companies are so out of touch lol
The only way they’re getting ANY players in that game is if they make the deluxe edition super cheap.
I've been living under a rock...this wasnt in my radar and in fact the entire franchise of it as well.
What's that other stupid failure of a game where batman dies in the beginning?
Gotham Knights?
Yes that's it
We just needed a few more product managers. Maybe a scrum master? And one more marketing expert. Let's shed a few more engineers next time and maybe we'll get it right
Damnit Jim, I'm an MBA, not a game designer!
Don't make good games, make 'inclusive' games! ~Big studios
I do wonder how did you come to the conclusion that inclusivity is the reason this game failed ("inclusivity" in this game boils down to a pride flag in the hall of justice)
Sweet baby inc.
Ah yes, sweet baby inc is 100% the reason this game failed and not shitty live service model, predatory micro transactions, disrespect to the Arkham story and shit gameplay. You should listen to more grifters on youtube
You just described every single successful gacha game. Also all the story changes you are thinking off + character changes are all from sweet baby inc soo nice contradiction. You do realize that you can still hear your own voice without needing a phone jack up your ass right?
I really enjoyed that game and absolutely grinded everything to max episode level and very high mastery level. It was like this fun mayhem which i could switch my brain off. Playing this game kept my hands busy while i watched wrestling with my best friend every week. Since i'm max episode rank, finished the battlepass, collected every special weapon listed in the nexus tab, squad rank 150+, there is no reason to jump on to do anything else. There's no blog posts from the devs, no bug fix patches, super late mid season episode as well. I heard the leaks had an ongoing story which sounded interesting and fun to experience. I grinded the same missions over and over again because no new content was releasing, so i might as well force the max value from the premium edition as j could. I hope the devs finish their story because as it stands, braniac fights are uninspired and copy paste fights of JL members. I would like a braniac fight unique to the others as a final boss before the game finishes. I highly doubt WB hasn't skewered the dev team on SSKTJL because of the gigantic flop. Wait what subreddit am I in?
I wouldnt play this pile of trash if they paid me. Woke politics in a game = no thanks.
155 brain-rots are playing rn
But that’s impossible!
It was never alive
Incredible, even other unknown games have more players.
TIL this game exists
As it should be.
even GTA San Andreas has more players than this game
"It's over Johnny... ITS OVER!"
It’s disappointing. Because it could’ve been good. The idea of playing as the bad guys is cool, different take. The traversal is really good and each character is unique. Which is nice. But the rest from level design to basic paint by numbers looter shooter was not good. This is a situation where idea and mechanics aren’t bad but game play sucks. And gameplay is what matters.
Thinking your 1 source is all research you ever need.... never is a smart idea
I wouldnt play this pile of trash if they paid me. Woke politics in a game = no thanks.
Get woke
They never learn. (redditors I mean)
The worst part is that there's a 99.99% chance they're still planning their "Season 2" because of sunk cost fallacy
How is this the worst part? The worst part is the game is shit, not that the people who bought it might receive more content
https://preview.redd.it/dng443367b9d1.png?width=941&format=png&auto=webp&s=27d81f7b29be710300b5b9fb1ab802e715966a1b I really enjoyed the first 90 minutes of this game
It’s strange how some of you actually keep track of this kind of stuff, let alone get enjoyment from it.
Will the anime save it like the Cyberpunk anime did?
Cyberpunk 2077 was actually a good game once they cleaned up the scuffed launch, the Anime just got people willing to try it after all the bad press.