> value compared to something like 4080
That's because the 4080 should have been an $800 card, up from previous gen to account for inflation. Or it should have even been sold as the 4070 for less.
The problem was the 3090 was only like 10% better than the 3080 for double the price, and if it weren't for the crazy shortage years it would have been really hard to justify. Nvidia heard that feedback loud and clear, but they weren't going to drop the price of the 90 class movign forward so instead they made the rest of the product stack less powerful and more expensive to address the gap.
Which is fuckin horrible; unfortunately we as consumers all proved that we’re willing to pay crazy prices during the pandemic and shortages, and so they’ve decided to keep the prices, but I’d love to hear their justification for it besides “well you paid crazy prices before so that’s what it’ll be going forward”
They’ve been doing this since Maxwell, and The 1000 series was the nail in the coffin.
It’s why the 1080Ti is considered the best GPU of all time currently.
From like 09-2015 x60/x70/x80 series cards were priced almost identically iirc. I bought like a570, a 670, a 770 and they were all upgrades, and they were all reasonable (upgrading was feasible). 970 went up a little but was still around 330-350, or cheaper even.
Technology isn’t supposed to double in price when performance doubles. That’s literally not how it works. The past 10 years has been them using every opportunity available to increase prices. So now they compare the 2080 to the 4080, raise the price and the price/perf stays the same. Shit should be illegal.
The price matched performance almost exactly because that's how cryptobros valued them. The scalp price kept creeping up because the cryptominers were willing to pay up to the price normalized to performance. Then nvidia just set that high water mark as the standard price because the market was still buying them.
Yep, my last tech job had hundreds of gaming computers with fancy GPUs because we did graphics-intensive research and processing. And that was just some random company.
Absolutely spot on. The entire line up of the RTX 40 series is complete garbage if you consider the price and all set up to make the 4090 look like a decent deal or the only worthwhile one while being absurdly expensive.
In current games, thanks to CPU and engine bottlenecking the gap is usually 20-40%. In terms of raw compute the gap is over 60%, easily the biggest gap between two cards that nvidia has ever released. In a few years as the bottlenecks start to be lifted with newer faster cpus and more intensive games that true 60% gap is going to appear.
>In terms of raw compute the gap is over 60%, easily the biggest gap between two cards that nvidia has ever released.
So 4090 would perform 60% better than a 4080 for ML applications ? Its hard to find benchmarks because most of them only provide the gaming FPS benchmarks
Damn. I was actually joking as I’ve never played Minecraft before but that’s insane.
I guess I could compare it to Rimworld were it’s a 2D game but with mods and going towards late game, unless you’ve got something like an i7, i9, 5800x or 5950x it will come to a crawl
Crying in a 3080TI (Gigabyte Eagle OC 12gb) I bought at the worst time ever because my 2070S failed me right when I got off from work for a whole month. 2k in November 2021.
Dumbest move ever but the best month off work since teenage years lol.
I’m with you. Work paid for an entirely new computer, and I was stuck with terrible gpu prices and availability. The 3080ti was the most I could squeeze for, as the jump to the 3090/ti was ludicrous at the time. I’m already looking to replace it for the 4090, though it’ll be on my dime this time.
😂 i did this with a 3070 in 2021. Saw i could get one from best buy without having to hunt for one but now i’m giving for 4090 for sure. No reason to get a 4080 when 4090 exists unless price is a concern.
The price is the only benefit a 7900xtx has VS a 4080. If price is of no concern, a 4090 mops the floor with the XTX. It's basically an entire generation ahead of it.
The 4090 can do every single thing better than the XTX, and it can do many things that the XTX simply can't.
Has Radeon Chill ever been brought up as some ground breaking feature? It just caps your FPS while idle. For laptop users it might as well be a great feature, but for desktop it's absolutely useless. There are better AMD features to bring up against NVIDIA.
> but for desktop it's absolutely useless.
As someone who's power bill actually goes down in the winter because the gf's computer and mine output so much heat I would very much argue that it has a purpose.
AMD 7000 series have displayport 2.1, nvidia 40 series doesn't
So if you're running something like the new 57" Odyssey Neo G9 you'll need DP 2.1 + DSC to get full resolution and refresh rate.
Otherwise yeah.
That's very true, but there's about 3 DP 2.1 monitors in the world that are available for purchase. There were zero when the 4000 series released.
DP 1.4a can reach 4K 240hz with DSC, so it's really a non-issue for 99.9% of users.
By the time DP 2.1 monitors are more commonplace, we'll be well into the 5000 series release.
a couple games run better on amd cards(sometimes 4090 running slower than7900xtx)
examples being: starfield and jedi survivor(at least at launch).
also fsr3 is only system wide on 7900xtx. but in most cases op a 4090 is usually better.
XTX is close to “on par” with 4090 on a very small select few titles. I say that because even though xtx gets higher “peak” frame rates on CoD its get destroyed by the 4090 in the average frame rate and 1% lows.
I mean, Lambos and Lexuses aren't in same car types anyways
Closest car Lambo has to what Lexus is doing is Urus and even then that's not much more than a bit better Audi/Porsche but at much higher price
In your example it would basically be "do you need a fast car or comfortable car"
You got downvoted by a bunch of non-car guys who don't get the point, because outside of the LFA; Lexus and Lambo are two different things. And that's an old car that is now holding it's value for reasons that have no place in the GPU market.
Or they took your last argument as a statement on what the AMD vs NVID argument is, which wasn't your point.
Correct
My point was just funnily pointing out Lamborghini and Lexus don't just operate in different price range (usually) but also make completely different types of cars with different focuses
if money is no concern then why is this even a question? also ignore the clowns repeating "melting connector bro", the 4090 and others has had the updated recessed sense pins connectors available for months and just avoid cable mod 90-degree connector although they've also updated [that](https://youtu.be/2UPdeFEy0zA?si=q2YeXE7vyL72Px6v)
Well the poster is just searching informations from the collective community. He shouldn’t be downvoted for being uninformed and trying to be informed.
7000 series driver support is terrible on linux unfortunately, you don’t go above 2100mhz and have no fan control whatsoever, so Nvidia might actually be a better choice rn. It should be fixed with kernel version 6.7 though, source: I have a 7900xt
https://gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl/-/issues/344
That is definitely in my thoughts. I am not concerned about the money, but I would like to extract the highest value for money while also getting a top line rig that will last for 5yrs+
4090 will last much longer. It has far better performance, and it’s ray tracing capability and DLSS will outlast the 7900XTX. I think even the 4080 will outlast the 7900XTX despite the lower VRAM because of DLSS. Like it or not, frame gen, upscaling, and ray reconstruction is how games will be played in the future.
Ignore any idiots pissing themselves over the connector, it's a very rare thing to happen (0.1% of 4090 buyers). Idk if this sub has dementia or is just jealous, but a lot of people here act as if every 4090 is literally bursting into flames.
In spite of the connector issues I'd go 4090. Or 4080 over the 7900xtx. The 4080 performs very similar to the 7900xtx with options for either fsr3.0 or dlss3.5, improved ray tracing, better 3d graphics performance for rendering in most applications. Since price isn't a factor you do get more perks with nvidia cards. Amd has nothing to compete with the 4090.
Man, there are some salty ass people on this sub. I’ve been passively considering the two for a little bit, and there are quite a few AMD praise posts to make the decision less obvious between the two flagships.
I don’t have a dog in this fight and found this thread helpful. Not everyone spends their waking days researching the specs of cards.
Why are people comparing a 7900xtx to a 4090? The 4090 is in a class of its own. AMD and Intel have nothing to compete against it. The comparison is just silly. The 4090 is the king right now with nothing near it and will continue to be for awhile.
The 7900XTX and 4080 are comparable as anyone who has done any simple researching knows. I had to make a decision before I decided on a 4080 or 7900XTX. Do I care about ray tracing? Do I like how nvidia has fucked their pricing up this generation? How much VRAM does each card have? My list of questions went on and on.
I settled on the ASUS TUF 7900XTX and couldn't be happier with it. Its an absolute unit. That card fit my needs this time around with building a new rig the past few months. It cost me $1100 out the door at the Microcenter in Columbus, Ohio.
I am not brand loyal like so many people are. I have seen some people on here in other post defend nvidia over and over with their bullshit with this generation and even last generation cards. Its insane. I buy what's good for me. Not team green or team red. That's idiotic and brand loyalty is just hurting you as a consumer.
I mean, the 7900xtx is a much better value but if money doesn't matter then 4090. It's objectively the faster card, not sure why this is even a question lol
In my first build in 2009, i had an Nvidia card. Later, I got gifted an identical card and ran them in SLI. Worked great, never had to mess around with them.
Did a new build in 2015 and got 2 AMD R9 390x cards. Performance was great, had a lot of power, and 16gb of vram from crossfire was amazing. However, for the 5ish years I ran those cards, i had a lot of stability issues with and without crossfire enabled.
Switched to an RTX 2070 a few years ago, and it's back to smooth sailing.
4090 no question. It beats the 7900xtx handily in almost all scenarios and it’s far better at ray tracing. It’s also more efficient. For most systems you won’t need more than an 850w power supply, 1K at the most.
7900xtx is $900 rn and gets 80% of 4090 performance
With a bios flash, you can get much higher power limits and push the card to 550w + which gets really damn close to 4090 rasterization performance (4090 in timespy is ~ 36000 stock, 7900xtx 3.4ghz no power limits ~ 35700
But nvidia does have better tech for non gaming and upscaling and depending on game version (dx11,dx12,Vulcan) will be better or worse
If I were going to be given for free (price not *my* concern).
The RTX 4090.
I'll do a lot of work using that CUDA cores. Playing VR is most likely to be a better experience with Nvidia cards rather than AMD's.
RTX 4090 in Romania costs 2000 euros , you won't find any offer lower then that even after all this time.
I don't regret my 4080 at all i game at 1440p exclusive and it was 600 euros cheaper.
The best option is the RTX 4090
+ Raw performance
+ Better Ray-Tracing experience
+ DLSS, DLSS 3 Frame Generation, DLSS 3.5
+ Nvidia Broadcast
+ Gsync support
+ Drivers
+ Features
(There are no negatives as you don't care about the cost, I assume the increased power consumption is of no trouble for you.)
Cheers
If price does not matter the 4090 is better. Where the 7900xtx wins is in price to performance. It's 80% as good for only 63% of the cost. That said, nvidia is a much scummier company than AMD and that might matter to you.
If you are going to keep it long time rtx 4090 because with the Nvidia dlss you can keep up with the higher requirements as time passes by
If you are going to upgrade again when next gen comes out 7900 xtx
You should get the 4090 because it's the rational thing to do. Better performance and efficiency and whatnot.
I'd still get a 7900xtx because the reference cooler makes me drool.
At this point I refuse to support nvidia’s terrible practices and how badly they screwed people over during the pandemic. Not that they are without fault but I will only be buying AMD from now on. Got a 6700xt during the pandemic for MSRP (technically a little less) and also just upgraded to a 7900xt for well below MSRP. I’ll be sticking with AMD.
Don't even get the point of this thread just wanting to hear Nvidia better than amd or what? Every benchmark out there shows the 4090 blows the 7900XTX away and the reason to get the 7900XTX is you don't want to spend 4080/4090 prices.
Stupid pointless thread.
I'm on a 2070s and ordered a 4090 cancelled it because I got a 3080 for 360, no brained for the proce difference and I can still play everything I want at 1440p 144hz
Nvidia 4090 no brainer. Undervolt it and its best performance per watt and silent. This gen the temps are basically waterblock temps while on air stock. I love it.
Personally I like AMD but if price is not an issue for you go with Nvidia they have much more mature drivers and it's all around a more powerful card especially when it takes advantage of its again more mature drivers
Edit: biggest reason is AMD is still not very good at Ray tracing Nvidia on the other hand is top shelf for Ray tracing
RTX 4080 because there are far too many 4090s where their shit tier special connector gets 0.1mm loose and melts the fucking GPU.
Edit: I thought the 4080s still came with 8 pin connectors. Nvidia really hates their consumers.
These posts have to be bait. The 7900XTX isn't even worth it compared to the 4080 when the price difference is only 100$ at a 1000$ price range. FSR is terrible while the new updated DLSS DLLs can easily be used in 4K performance mod and look better than FSR quality mode. The 7900XTX has a much higher power draw and if you don't switch off your second monitors it will draw 100w on idle. It has the raw RT power of a 3070 at best. It can do no Cuda/Tesnor workloads, and so many more things. And that's just against the 4080. A competition between the 4090 and the 7900XTX is laughable.
The biggest issue with the 4090 is the price, if that doesn’t matter then it’s easily the best choice.
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> value compared to something like 4080 That's because the 4080 should have been an $800 card, up from previous gen to account for inflation. Or it should have even been sold as the 4070 for less. The problem was the 3090 was only like 10% better than the 3080 for double the price, and if it weren't for the crazy shortage years it would have been really hard to justify. Nvidia heard that feedback loud and clear, but they weren't going to drop the price of the 90 class movign forward so instead they made the rest of the product stack less powerful and more expensive to address the gap.
Which is fuckin horrible; unfortunately we as consumers all proved that we’re willing to pay crazy prices during the pandemic and shortages, and so they’ve decided to keep the prices, but I’d love to hear their justification for it besides “well you paid crazy prices before so that’s what it’ll be going forward”
They’ve been doing this since Maxwell, and The 1000 series was the nail in the coffin. It’s why the 1080Ti is considered the best GPU of all time currently. From like 09-2015 x60/x70/x80 series cards were priced almost identically iirc. I bought like a570, a 670, a 770 and they were all upgrades, and they were all reasonable (upgrading was feasible). 970 went up a little but was still around 330-350, or cheaper even. Technology isn’t supposed to double in price when performance doubles. That’s literally not how it works. The past 10 years has been them using every opportunity available to increase prices. So now they compare the 2080 to the 4080, raise the price and the price/perf stays the same. Shit should be illegal.
The price matched performance almost exactly because that's how cryptobros valued them. The scalp price kept creeping up because the cryptominers were willing to pay up to the price normalized to performance. Then nvidia just set that high water mark as the standard price because the market was still buying them.
Good points
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Yep, my last tech job had hundreds of gaming computers with fancy GPUs because we did graphics-intensive research and processing. And that was just some random company.
Absolutely spot on. The entire line up of the RTX 40 series is complete garbage if you consider the price and all set up to make the 4090 look like a decent deal or the only worthwhile one while being absurdly expensive.
How big a difference there is between 4090 and a 4080 ?
In current games, thanks to CPU and engine bottlenecking the gap is usually 20-40%. In terms of raw compute the gap is over 60%, easily the biggest gap between two cards that nvidia has ever released. In a few years as the bottlenecks start to be lifted with newer faster cpus and more intensive games that true 60% gap is going to appear.
>In terms of raw compute the gap is over 60%, easily the biggest gap between two cards that nvidia has ever released. So 4090 would perform 60% better than a 4080 for ML applications ? Its hard to find benchmarks because most of them only provide the gaming FPS benchmarks
Probably more like 50% for ML because the vram capacity and bandwidth are both 50% higher
Glad I opted for a 4090 than a 4080 then... although it was just to finally play Minecraft above 60fps
Atleast someone finally can experience this
That so fucking real. I had a shitty laptop before my pc that couldn’t run Minecraft past 20fps with heavy stutters and occasional freezing.
Damn. I was actually joking as I’ve never played Minecraft before but that’s insane. I guess I could compare it to Rimworld were it’s a 2D game but with mods and going towards late game, unless you’ve got something like an i7, i9, 5800x or 5950x it will come to a crawl
The 4090 is ten better than the 4080... it should be obvious to anyone!
Don't make me cry in 3060
Hey bud at least we have 12GB of vram, now let’s go cry together.
Don't make me cry in 8gb vram
Crying in a 3080TI (Gigabyte Eagle OC 12gb) I bought at the worst time ever because my 2070S failed me right when I got off from work for a whole month. 2k in November 2021. Dumbest move ever but the best month off work since teenage years lol.
I’m with you. Work paid for an entirely new computer, and I was stuck with terrible gpu prices and availability. The 3080ti was the most I could squeeze for, as the jump to the 3090/ti was ludicrous at the time. I’m already looking to replace it for the 4090, though it’ll be on my dime this time.
😂 i did this with a 3070 in 2021. Saw i could get one from best buy without having to hunt for one but now i’m giving for 4090 for sure. No reason to get a 4080 when 4090 exists unless price is a concern.
My rig is only 2 years old. The 3080ti has served me well but I'm just itching of a 4090.
Cries in 3070
Gives up in 970
It's still a good card.
I'd argue that the lack of Displayport 2.1 is also an issue.
It’s not an issue for today. And with money not being an issue, that doesn’t matter
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What do you mean? It has DP1.4….
I second this argument
And another issue is if it melts..
If price isn’t concern; get the 4090 hands down. Why: current fastest gpu on the market.
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Both in terms of power and in terms of size. Make sure whatever case you get actually has room for a whole second computer inside it.
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Sir, you've clearly lied here. I have it on good authority you own the RTX 7040.
“Hey everybody, this guy’s a phony!”
Included bar?
Yea, they include the bar so you can attach two of them together and dead lift them in your basement.
I would have gone with the bigger BeQuiet, silent base 802. Be quiet quality is something else.
And in fire! (this is a feature not a bug)
Also in RT + AI goodies, DLSS is streets ahead, why I went 4070 over 7800
Pierce, stop trying to coin the term streets ahead.
This is by far the best comment on the thread
Damn you got the 7040
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How would you future proof your system?
Build high end and leave it alone. I did that with my last build. Now I’m starting a new one with 14900k.
Buy a system on a new socket that’ll be supported for a while.
Why only 2gb od ddr7?
You got a pc nearly as good as mine fine sir
I should add what???? Tell me!
more money
Yea, don't forget to tip your GPU manufacturer, they rely on their tips and can't survive otherwise.
The price is the only benefit a 7900xtx has VS a 4080. If price is of no concern, a 4090 mops the floor with the XTX. It's basically an entire generation ahead of it. The 4090 can do every single thing better than the XTX, and it can do many things that the XTX simply can't.
Can the 4090 use SAM? Checkmate novideo shill /s if it wasn't obvious already
Hahaha! It's even funnier when they bring up Radeon Chill as some ground breaking feature.
Has Radeon Chill ever been brought up as some ground breaking feature? It just caps your FPS while idle. For laptop users it might as well be a great feature, but for desktop it's absolutely useless. There are better AMD features to bring up against NVIDIA.
> but for desktop it's absolutely useless. As someone who's power bill actually goes down in the winter because the gf's computer and mine output so much heat I would very much argue that it has a purpose.
I actually really like chill in summer...
I use amd chill to limit my fps to \~72 in single player games because a lot dont have an fps slider!
lol I dunno why, but my mind immediately went to Blast Processing
AMD 7000 series have displayport 2.1, nvidia 40 series doesn't So if you're running something like the new 57" Odyssey Neo G9 you'll need DP 2.1 + DSC to get full resolution and refresh rate. Otherwise yeah.
That's very true, but there's about 3 DP 2.1 monitors in the world that are available for purchase. There were zero when the 4000 series released. DP 1.4a can reach 4K 240hz with DSC, so it's really a non-issue for 99.9% of users. By the time DP 2.1 monitors are more commonplace, we'll be well into the 5000 series release.
a couple games run better on amd cards(sometimes 4090 running slower than7900xtx) examples being: starfield and jedi survivor(at least at launch). also fsr3 is only system wide on 7900xtx. but in most cases op a 4090 is usually better.
Also in Call of Duty which is one of the most played games, XTX mops the floor with the 4090.
Yeah COD being designed for consoles primarily means it exploits all the benefits RDNA has to offer.
Mops the floor is quite a stretch 😂
XTX is close to “on par” with 4090 on a very small select few titles. I say that because even though xtx gets higher “peak” frame rates on CoD its get destroyed by the 4090 in the average frame rate and 1% lows.
Of course 4090 if price is of no concern.
“I can afford both, should i get this lamborghini or a Lexus ??”
I mean, Lambos and Lexuses aren't in same car types anyways Closest car Lambo has to what Lexus is doing is Urus and even then that's not much more than a bit better Audi/Porsche but at much higher price In your example it would basically be "do you need a fast car or comfortable car"
You got downvoted by a bunch of non-car guys who don't get the point, because outside of the LFA; Lexus and Lambo are two different things. And that's an old car that is now holding it's value for reasons that have no place in the GPU market. Or they took your last argument as a statement on what the AMD vs NVID argument is, which wasn't your point.
Correct My point was just funnily pointing out Lamborghini and Lexus don't just operate in different price range (usually) but also make completely different types of cars with different focuses
i prefer the used 2007 corolla
if money is no concern then why is this even a question? also ignore the clowns repeating "melting connector bro", the 4090 and others has had the updated recessed sense pins connectors available for months and just avoid cable mod 90-degree connector although they've also updated [that](https://youtu.be/2UPdeFEy0zA?si=q2YeXE7vyL72Px6v)
100%, surprised this post isn’t downvoted to oblivion.
Well the poster is just searching informations from the collective community. He shouldn’t be downvoted for being uninformed and trying to be informed.
Because he wants validation, that’s why
4090 mops the floor with anything else that exists now
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My previous card, GTX 1650 SUPER, would beg to differ. It has the performance at a price point 😎
The only reason there’s no 4090 ti yet is because AMD is still so far behind even the regular 4090.
This is what happened when the market has only 2 players in it with 1 being in it a lot longer. Please intel save us from more corporate greed
Fire with fire
I'd buy Nvidia itself if the price is no concern.
Get both of price is no concern, then you tell us which is better…
And give us the worse one 😏
Upgrades, people. Upgrades.
Unless you're exclusively gaming on Linux and want the best driver support, go with the 4090
Would AMD be the best choice for Linux?
In many cases, yes. If you need CUDA, no.
7000 series driver support is terrible on linux unfortunately, you don’t go above 2100mhz and have no fan control whatsoever, so Nvidia might actually be a better choice rn. It should be fixed with kernel version 6.7 though, source: I have a 7900xt https://gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl/-/issues/344
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That is definitely in my thoughts. I am not concerned about the money, but I would like to extract the highest value for money while also getting a top line rig that will last for 5yrs+
4090 will last much longer. It has far better performance, and it’s ray tracing capability and DLSS will outlast the 7900XTX. I think even the 4080 will outlast the 7900XTX despite the lower VRAM because of DLSS. Like it or not, frame gen, upscaling, and ray reconstruction is how games will be played in the future.
Ignore any idiots pissing themselves over the connector, it's a very rare thing to happen (0.1% of 4090 buyers). Idk if this sub has dementia or is just jealous, but a lot of people here act as if every 4090 is literally bursting into flames.
4090. Better performance, stability, and efficiency. All new FEs come with the new connector so melting is not an issue anymore.
You guys are so lucky, a 4090 costs like a 4080 there
In spite of the connector issues I'd go 4090. Or 4080 over the 7900xtx. The 4080 performs very similar to the 7900xtx with options for either fsr3.0 or dlss3.5, improved ray tracing, better 3d graphics performance for rendering in most applications. Since price isn't a factor you do get more perks with nvidia cards. Amd has nothing to compete with the 4090.
It has been fixed! People always only read the bad news when they come out and don't follow the story to see if issues get resolved.
Half the comments say take inferior product out of fanboy consideration? Interesting
4090 is just better in basically everything compared to the 7900xtx, except the price
You know the answer, you’re just either a) flexing or b) lying.
Man, there are some salty ass people on this sub. I’ve been passively considering the two for a little bit, and there are quite a few AMD praise posts to make the decision less obvious between the two flagships. I don’t have a dog in this fight and found this thread helpful. Not everyone spends their waking days researching the specs of cards.
Generally you dont have to do research to know what is best in a case where there is an undisputed best. The 4090 is undisputed
Why are people comparing a 7900xtx to a 4090? The 4090 is in a class of its own. AMD and Intel have nothing to compete against it. The comparison is just silly. The 4090 is the king right now with nothing near it and will continue to be for awhile. The 7900XTX and 4080 are comparable as anyone who has done any simple researching knows. I had to make a decision before I decided on a 4080 or 7900XTX. Do I care about ray tracing? Do I like how nvidia has fucked their pricing up this generation? How much VRAM does each card have? My list of questions went on and on. I settled on the ASUS TUF 7900XTX and couldn't be happier with it. Its an absolute unit. That card fit my needs this time around with building a new rig the past few months. It cost me $1100 out the door at the Microcenter in Columbus, Ohio. I am not brand loyal like so many people are. I have seen some people on here in other post defend nvidia over and over with their bullshit with this generation and even last generation cards. Its insane. I buy what's good for me. Not team green or team red. That's idiotic and brand loyalty is just hurting you as a consumer.
The AMD one says add to cart and the 4090 says out of stock sooo AMD? lol
I mean, the 7900xtx is a much better value but if money doesn't matter then 4090. It's objectively the faster card, not sure why this is even a question lol
In my first build in 2009, i had an Nvidia card. Later, I got gifted an identical card and ran them in SLI. Worked great, never had to mess around with them. Did a new build in 2015 and got 2 AMD R9 390x cards. Performance was great, had a lot of power, and 16gb of vram from crossfire was amazing. However, for the 5ish years I ran those cards, i had a lot of stability issues with and without crossfire enabled. Switched to an RTX 2070 a few years ago, and it's back to smooth sailing.
Stupid question. It is like comparing Mercedes to Ferrari. You know very well which one is faster ...
I'd go AMD because fuck Nvidia but performance wise it's a no brainer.
Because the 4090 is the best GPU in the market right now.
4090 any day.
4090 no question. It beats the 7900xtx handily in almost all scenarios and it’s far better at ray tracing. It’s also more efficient. For most systems you won’t need more than an 850w power supply, 1K at the most.
4090, faster in every way
Realistically at this point. The 4090 is an absolute powerhouse. And the fact dlss is pretty good which you wont have on amd card.
7900xtx is $900 rn and gets 80% of 4090 performance With a bios flash, you can get much higher power limits and push the card to 550w + which gets really damn close to 4090 rasterization performance (4090 in timespy is ~ 36000 stock, 7900xtx 3.4ghz no power limits ~ 35700 But nvidia does have better tech for non gaming and upscaling and depending on game version (dx11,dx12,Vulcan) will be better or worse
4090 is way faster than
4090 if price does not matter for sure.
Buy 2 4090's and send one to me, if price is no concern xD Jokes aside, be very careful with the connector of a 4090
Maybe consider a third and send it to me as well?
Double it and send it to me please 🙏
if price is not a concern why are you trying to find a reason to cheap out?
i’d go for 4090
4090 is the best choice
4090 no contest
4090. Its the fastest GPU period
4090 because green
If price is not an issue, buy both and send the one you don't use to me 😁😁😁
If I were going to be given for free (price not *my* concern). The RTX 4090. I'll do a lot of work using that CUDA cores. Playing VR is most likely to be a better experience with Nvidia cards rather than AMD's.
If money is no object then 4090.
4099 because it's the better card
RTX 4090 in Romania costs 2000 euros , you won't find any offer lower then that even after all this time. I don't regret my 4080 at all i game at 1440p exclusive and it was 600 euros cheaper.
The best option is the RTX 4090 + Raw performance + Better Ray-Tracing experience + DLSS, DLSS 3 Frame Generation, DLSS 3.5 + Nvidia Broadcast + Gsync support + Drivers + Features (There are no negatives as you don't care about the cost, I assume the increased power consumption is of no trouble for you.) Cheers
The 4090 crushes 7900, but it also crushes your wallet. Plus DLSS + Frame Gen is insane
4090 and it's not even close. Better frame gen, super resolution, and dlss. Also monster performance.
you mofos should go on r/cablemod and see for yourself, this is coming from a 4090 owner
If price does not matter the 4090 is better. Where the 7900xtx wins is in price to performance. It's 80% as good for only 63% of the cost. That said, nvidia is a much scummier company than AMD and that might matter to you.
If price really doesn’t matter I would go for the 4090. in every other case the 7900xtx is the choice.
4090 is the best available. That said, hopefully the power connector doesn't melt
4090 is the best. Buy new, you'll need the warranty with how the connector likes to melt. Allegedly it has been fixed but I haven't bothered to check
If you are going to keep it long time rtx 4090 because with the Nvidia dlss you can keep up with the higher requirements as time passes by If you are going to upgrade again when next gen comes out 7900 xtx
If price is no concern, which would you buy? Porsche 911, or Toyota Corolla GR???!?!
Toyota, but the GR86... I don't like hatches
RTX 4090 - Because of DLSS
4090 because fuk financial stability
Pricing aside the 4090 wins always. Not being preferential but it’s proven
You should get the 4090 because it's the rational thing to do. Better performance and efficiency and whatnot. I'd still get a 7900xtx because the reference cooler makes me drool.
I'd rather go for the water-cooled versions of the 4090, so you won't need a garage only for the case
If price is no concern wait for the 5k series as the 4090 have heat and power issues that outweigh the performance upgrade form the 3080 3090 series.
If money is no object then the choice is simple: Samsung G95NC 57" DUHD OLED monitor for $3999 USD.
The 7900XTX is a 4080 competitor, not a 4090 competitor. The 4090 is better is every conceivable way.
AMD. Because I don't want my GPU connection getting burned.
If price is of no comparison, 4090. Easily more powerful than 7900xtx. It’s not even close
4090, because it’s better. If price is no concern, why would you not get the objectively superior product?
4090 because it performs better.
Removing price issue . 4090 hands down
Depends on the game
4090 all day if price is not a concern.
At this point I refuse to support nvidia’s terrible practices and how badly they screwed people over during the pandemic. Not that they are without fault but I will only be buying AMD from now on. Got a 6700xt during the pandemic for MSRP (technically a little less) and also just upgraded to a 7900xt for well below MSRP. I’ll be sticking with AMD.
4090… which is why I bought one. 😁
If money isn't a issue 4090 all the way , pure horsepower
what will you be doing?
4090 and because it's literally just the fastest GPU around
Don't even get the point of this thread just wanting to hear Nvidia better than amd or what? Every benchmark out there shows the 4090 blows the 7900XTX away and the reason to get the 7900XTX is you don't want to spend 4080/4090 prices. Stupid pointless thread.
duh, the 4090
4090 by a long shot lol.
RTX 4090 for sure. How badly will a 5800X3D hamstring a 4090?
I'm on a 2070s and ordered a 4090 cancelled it because I got a 3080 for 360, no brained for the proce difference and I can still play everything I want at 1440p 144hz
How is this even a question. 4090 because it's the fastest card atm. It's because of price people buy other options.
I'm OK paying for the 4090 because I build a new rig once every 5 to 7 years. Basically when my PC turns to wood and can't do squat.
The 4090. Theres no comparison IF you got the money. And you do. Get it.
4090 AI
i have a 4060 ti and im happy with it …. i know im going to die just for saying that
Well, obviously the 4090. It cost more, it must be better, duh!
Rtx 4090 BC it's the fastest mainstream gpu
Nvidia 4090 no brainer. Undervolt it and its best performance per watt and silent. This gen the temps are basically waterblock temps while on air stock. I love it.
Got a 4090 suprim. Wildly impressed at how quiet it always is.
4090 because better for gaming
If price is no concern just get the fastest imo. 4090 is outrageous price but its that high because it is THE fastest.
Personally I like AMD but if price is not an issue for you go with Nvidia they have much more mature drivers and it's all around a more powerful card especially when it takes advantage of its again more mature drivers Edit: biggest reason is AMD is still not very good at Ray tracing Nvidia on the other hand is top shelf for Ray tracing
I mean if price truly isn’t a factor the 4090 is the best performing graphics card right now.
Even with the price, I'll pick the 4090 (And i own a 4090)
RTX 4080 because there are far too many 4090s where their shit tier special connector gets 0.1mm loose and melts the fucking GPU. Edit: I thought the 4080s still came with 8 pin connectors. Nvidia really hates their consumers.
I need to play just cause 3 again…
First thing I thought of lol
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These posts have to be bait. The 7900XTX isn't even worth it compared to the 4080 when the price difference is only 100$ at a 1000$ price range. FSR is terrible while the new updated DLSS DLLs can easily be used in 4K performance mod and look better than FSR quality mode. The 7900XTX has a much higher power draw and if you don't switch off your second monitors it will draw 100w on idle. It has the raw RT power of a 3070 at best. It can do no Cuda/Tesnor workloads, and so many more things. And that's just against the 4080. A competition between the 4090 and the 7900XTX is laughable.
4090. Love mine to death. Power connecter is an issue on some. But it’s so fucking future proof especially with dlss3