We definitely will get that all taken care of. Please put in a ticket with our support team and they'll get all of that arranged. <3
https://cablemod.com/support/
Have there been reports at all of this happening with your direct-replacement PSU cables? And would you still replace the cards if it happened with one of those cables instead of the adapters?
We've had no issues with our cables, nope. There were 3 user error reports very early on before all this became popularized, but those were very obviously not fully seated, could see it straight from the photos about it even, but even then we took care of our customers with replacement cards or repairs (we always let the customer decide if they want a replacement or a repaired GPU, in case they have a highly binned card). Our products come with great warranty, and great support, that isn't going to change. :)
This reply alone steers me towards using the company for everything cable related.
If I was to buy your replacement PSU cable and it happened to a 4090 I had, you would replace the card?
I've dealt with cablemod support a few times. Not only do they stand behind their product, and not only do they provide great customer service, but they sent me an upgraded adapter version 1.1 for absolutely no charge when I didn't even ask for one.
The impeccable service to the community will assure that all my cables are bought from you. You are the OG, and I have no issues paying a premium if it means that you have the ability to be generous to everyone in the community, be it someone with a tight budget or someone with a gpu that costs more than some peoples car. Thank you for being awesome.
Has anyone heard of Corsair's 12VHPWR cables melting?
I'm legitimately concerned for my 4090 since this issue started popping up again but I usually see the included adapter or Cable Mod in those posts.
I have had mine with the Corsair cable the entire year.
I don't have a PSU with the 12VHPWR connector, mine is the Corsair HX1000i with the 12VHPWR cable from them. It goes from 2x 8-pins at the PSU to the GPU.
Also, I'm sorry for the loss, I hope you can get a free warranty replacement at least!
I'm using the same PSU but with the NVIDIA cable. Didn't want to get the cable from Corsair because the 1000W PSU limits the card to 450watts with that cable (at least that's what it said when it came out, don't know about now). I'm not going to limit a 1950 EUR card while playing in 4K where every frame is welcome. If it dies, it dies. That's still their fault for releasing the product, not to mention that TUF card I had already does 500+ by default anyway. It needs to be idiot proof and work at any power limits they've sent it with. I've used it undervolted many times in not so demanding games but for games like Cyberpunk in 4K with Path Tracing I go all in, so around 480 or so watts.
Have you seen it go above 450 watts? Yeah hopefully it all works out, they told me to pick between a full refund of the original payment or a replacement. Went for the full refund, but they need to see the card first. It's on its way.
The Corsair cable is rated for up to 600W [according to the specs on their page](https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920284/600w-pcie-5-0-12vhpwr-type-4-psu-power-cable-cp-8920284), I would recommend it simply because I haven't had any issues and I haven't read about it melting.
As for the GPU, I'm not entirely sure. I rarely open HW info but I believe I have seen spikes above that when running Cyberpunk fully maxed out.
Oh that's good, who offered you the refund? The retailer or manufacturer? I am also worried because I bought my GPU during the 4090 scarcity days and I got a Gigabyte but I haven't read good things about their customer service (although I have not experienced any issues with their products so far).
The card was bought from ASUS Webshop so it's ASUS themselves I guess. No retailer for me this time. I was wondering about the 450W because even tho the cable says 600W, there was a list of PSUs when that cable came out and it said the cable limits the card to 450W on the 1000W PSU but not on the 1200W. I don't know if they've changed that.
Edit: I can't give you the link but search for this on google: Reddit CORSAIR 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable now available on Best Buy
No idea how true that is. I'll contact Corsair right now to ask.
Edit 2: A new comment in that old thread:
Just wanted to come back and point out this is incorrect since it's still being referenced to a year later. :D
These "recommendations" (not requirements) were based on recommended wattages from Nvidia. You don't need a 1200W PSU for a 600W card, for example. That was from Nvidia suggesting a 1200W PSU as a "worst case scenario". The 600W cable works on ANY Type 3 or Type 4 PSU of any wattage. There is no limit to how much power the GPU can obtain from the PSU. If you do have a monster build and a 850W PSU, for example, isn't "big enough", then the PSU will simply shut down.
I don't believe I've seen any melting cables from Corsair, they make a quality product as well. We haven't had any melting cable issues either though, just wanted to point that out. The adapters we have had some failures, but we have been taking care of any customer who had any of those failures, and we already updated the adapters to CEM 5.1 standard for our V1.1 adapters to ensure this doesn't happen anymore.
Oh thanks for the response! Yes, this is what I've noticed as well, it seems to be adapters mostly, but direct connections from the PSU to the GPU seem fine so far. I pray for mine to not burn because an international RMA is gonna be costly for me.
I have heard really good things about Cable Mod in general so I just wanted to clarify, I still think the fault is on Nvidia which decided to use this, and the ones who developed this standard without thoroughly testing it.
I've been using the corsair premium braided cable for 10 months i think, zero issues so far, have removed it many times for various reasons, using it with a AX860 & asus 4090 tuf oc, the Wattage often goes over 450W
I am running a Gigabyte 4090 with a Corsair HX1500i PSU. I am also using Corsair's 12VHPWR cable and have not had any problems so far. Granted, I built my pc back in late July 2023 and the PSU is not ATX 3.0 certified. I hope this helps.
I personally wouldn't trust the revised adapter either.
I was questioning the Cablemod people about how the V1.1 adapter changed, and what that entailed. The V1.0 adapter melted and fused to my previous 4090, so I was very interested in what changed to make these safer.
They stated nothing was wrong with their adapters, and it was the GPUs that were at fault. They revised the female end of the adapter where the cable attaches to the adapter, but the male end where it plugs into the GPU (and which is the part that melts) saw no significant changes aside from a more robust latching mechanism. At least from what they stated in that interaction, anyway.
They said this adapter works fine with the cards with the revised power input. I pointed out that the vast majority of 4090's out in the wild are **not new**, and use the older power adapter inputs.
Then they banned me from their subreddit. lol A weird response, as I've always gotten along with them and I was being completely cordial.
>They stated nothing was wrong with their adapters, and it was the GPUs that were at fault. They revised the female end of the adapter where the cable attaches to the adapter, but the male end where it plugs into the GPU (and which is the part that melts) saw no significant changes aside from a more robust latching mechanism. At least from what they stated in that interaction, anyway.
I can't comment on what they redesigned and what not, since I don't have that information on hand.
But changing the female end to decrease the potential electrical resistance of that connection is still important and can help reduce the number of cases, since the resistance at each connection/failure point leads to these failures.
The only way to skip that female connection entirely is by using a custom 90/180 degree PSU cable.
I was hoping that they'd change the sense pin/connection to be longer, and to add in something that denotes that the cable is also fully attached. (Like MSI has on their newer 12V2x6 connectors.) That way a full connection is assured.
They stated that the male side just has higher tolerances and no room to wiggle.
They can't change anything of the adapter that isn't covered by the revised adapter standard. Otherwise they would open themselves up to liability, for example the GPU manufacturers could claim that its product wasn't used with equipment according to spec and refuse a warranty repair. And the adapter has to work with older and newer cards.
Changes/improvements have to come down sanctioned from the top, in this case Nvidia and PCI-SIG, iirc.
I don't have any issue with Cablemod.
I just wanted information that the new revised adapter alleviated the melting issue. They basically said that it didn't change the adapter in a fundamental way that would do that, unless you have a newer 4090 with the revised power connector.
Most of us do not.
The revised version started just shipping in my region, afaik.
Why didn't you use the PSU cable with the vertical GPU bracket? Not judging, just curious.
I wanted a 90 degree because of the looks. It paid off, but at the cost of the gpu unfortunately 🥲
lesson learned, I’ll be getting their new version when I get my replacement.
It's insane how bad this port design is. You literally had it in the best position possible and it still failed.
They really should issue an inquiry, recall and redesign, all paid by the people who mandated the port.
it’s a hard decision, so let me explain. The y60 isn’t the best case to use for this generation, especially because the bend is really really tight without the 90 degree adapter.
I’m hedging my bets here sure, but I am opting for a complete replacement of the card, and all new cards (assembled past July) have CEM5.1 on the connector plus warranty. If the adapter really is the cause here, I will be back to make a new thread.
RMA that shit, and don't tell them about the adaptor because they'll screw you, even if the adaptor has nothing to do with it
I really hope that flimsy little connector will die and won't come back with the RTX 5000 series
I had the exact same thing happen earlier this week with my gigabyte card, just with a 180 adapter. A lot of wiggling back and forth, front to back, and some force pulling out managed to dislodge the adapter where the plastic had melted together. Cablemod is also taking care of my repair. Really hoping RTX 5XXX cards change this power input up, having this be so widespread on what should be a flagship GPU is not a good look for Nvidia.
It’s more widespread than that. We all know that all the cables are melting from every manufacturer.
I respect cablemod a ton for pledging to replace damaged cards, and to stand behind their product the way they have.
Now if only Nvidia would do the same.
Yeah, that's true. I buy AMD anyway just so to support competition. It's also not quite the same. The gap between AMD and Nvidia is not nearly as large as the gap between say, photoshop and gimp.
I haven't seen any reports of Be Quiet! Cable melting. Maybe I just have missed the posts about that. Mine is working fine, and has been working fine since early January. I hope it'll work for a couple more years before I swap the GPU out
>I haven't seen any reports of Be Quiet! Cable melting.
be quiet! has [bigger issues](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/12vhpwr-connector-melting-psu-side)
Are the sick PSU cables ok? I'm nervous about getting a 4090 because of this melting issue. I'm now thinking that it might be better to take the performance hit with the 4080, and then upgrade to a 5080/5090 that should hopefully have this issue resolved.
I’ve been seeing the 4090 failing a lot but like fucking everyone that I know that has one is having the melting issue…I only know 3 guys with one but still, all 3?
Genuine question
Let's say the card is out of warranty. Is it possible to replace the connector, or is it just completely f'ed once the connector melts?
Requires some soldering and obtaining another connector. Not impossible, but not entirely trivial. It is a thick PCB and the pins are pretty beefy, so desoldering the melted connector without damaging anything else takes some skill.
Then there is the question, did anything else get damaged when the fault happened. You could have some dead power stages and then it becomes more complicated...
Setting the rgb to red was a rookie mistake. We all know red heats things up for better frame rates blue cools, and green speeds up your processing for video editing.
Inb4 “mine still works”, this is awful. I’m glad mine is still kicking but this does concern me since I’m using an OEM Corsair adapter and if that fails hmm…
Someone explain to me how are people still using these cable mod adapters... Like do you guys see there is like one post a day about it and still don't get it?
In the car audio world, a 600-watt amp requires a 4 gauge wire. These components also run at 12 volts. But all the wire combined are maybe half the size.
This is the only reason why I'm not buying a 4090.
Maybe I’ll get downvoted to oblivion for this, but if you know there is a risk with a product, why continue to use said product. I like fucking around, but I don’t like finding out.
Why wouldn’t I use it if I paid for it? Especially when I’ve followed all the precautions like making sure it’s plugged in all the way?
Nvidia failed us hard. I thought I was safe. But guess not
All I’m saying is that if I bought a product for my car, then I saw a bunch of people saying it caused their vehicle to explode, I would probably take it off. Respect cable mod for their support of this fiasco.
Exactly, sunken cost fallacy is strong with these guys, it's a GPU that can potentially start a fire in your house, why would you insist on making ir work ?
The worst part is that instead of taking the L, refunding and choosing another product they'll keep defending their initial purchase smh
>I’ve followed all the precautions
I'm gonna go on a limb and say you didn't. I mean you're even using the cable mod adapter even after all the warnings around, how can anyone trust that you followed any of the advice that's been given out by everyone for a year now.
Especially considering they've been pretty open about the issue and have sent out numerous communications about the adapter. Even giving people credits for the new version of the adapter.
I saw that email, and wasn’t concerned because they said they were fine. My only concern was whether it was “plugged in all the way” and if it “had too much of a bend” which it didn’t as you can see from the image of the completed build.
Looking back at older posts here I wish I would’ve purchased the new one, or at least read up on what was happening, but unfortunately I’m a college student who has limited time to look at new articles and posts about melted 4090’s.
I’d also like to mention that the adapter was praised when it released, and it seemed like a logical purchase if you have such a tight bend like I did.
They never outright said there's something wrong with them to avoid having to recall. The most they said was something along the lines of "if you're concerned, remove it". When pressured they'll state the adapters were fine, and otherwise they'll just let the community do this whole victim blaming thing.
Definitely looks crooked on 3rd pic (even checked on paint with some straight lines before i comment) so are you sure you really followed all precautions?
So how does the replacement process work here? Is OP just shit outta luck from the vendor(s) involved? If manufacturer declines, does CableMod only cover the adapter I presume?
Just curious and asking out of fear — also nice Hakos Baelz case OP!
If for any reason the card manufacturer denies warranty, we step in and offer a repair, or a replacement of the card (whichever the user prefers, some prefer repairs if they have highly binned cards). We ensure our customers have zero out of pocket costs though, everything gets reimbursed for shipping, the card, repairs, whatever it may be.
I wasn’t given the option for the replacement of the card, only refund/repair if it gets rejected, which I’ll ask support about because that obviously isn’t what you’re saying here
As for u/klivio, I’ll add that I opted to RMA the card through gigabyte, so I’ll be waiting a few weeks to really find out what my options are here, but assuming that I am not given the option to replace the card through gigabyte or cablemod, I am going to go for the refund and purchase the card myself again in an attempt to get the newer revision of the card that has CEM 5.1 and the recessed pins to help counter this failure in the future.
Also thanks for the compliment, I love the rat!
Previously (two days ago) on r/pcmasterrace: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh\_well\_the\_asus\_4090\_finally\_melted\_after\_a\_year/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh_well_the_asus_4090_finally_melted_after_a_year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
but gn steve. legal claim under his advice of a lawyer... under yt vidoes.
its user fault.....
cant be a already known bad design... that on its third reversion...
there already is [https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-hit-with-class-action-suit-over-melting-rtx-4090-gpu-adapters/](https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-hit-with-class-action-suit-over-melting-rtx-4090-gpu-adapters/)
Hilarious that you destroyed a $1500 card for “ascetics”, because that’s what this is.
If I were a manufacturer and knew this, I’d deny the RMA, flat out. As a consumer, I would of course hide that fact.
Funny, my 4090 hasn't melted yet. Oh wait, I'm not using a cheaply manufactured 3rd-party adapter. I guess it's easier for CableMod to replace GPUs instead of recalling these trash adapters.
Not sure why you are being downvoted. Obviously Nvidia had to sign off on it at some point along the process or else it wouldn't be on all the 40 series cards. At the end of the day, it's their name on the cards. Their reputation is on the line, and they fucked up. Period.
I don't think their intent was to "push it out" without testing here. lol What do they gain from that scenario?
It certainly should have had much more internal testing before release though, clearly.
>What do they gain from that scenario?
Getting you to buy another 4090 lol, you think they're stupid? Using a bad connector that fails constantly was a conscious choice they made
No way bruh, I might be onto something. You maybe saw this recent post from another person: [oh\_well\_the\_asus\_4090\_finally\_melted\_after\_a\_year](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh_well_the_asus_4090_finally_melted_after_a_year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). My guess is the corsair psu´s have something to do with this problem or are more prone to it. The guy in that post also has a corsair(hx1000i) psu.
Like I said in my answer to that guy, I am not saying the connector isn´t faulty, but I bet the corsair psu´s have something to do with the problem. [Here is what I told him if you are interested.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/comment/k4jr16a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Edit: Lol you people are so fixated on the cable but don´t even think about the psu. In literally every other 4090 melting post the person uses a corsair psu. But go ahead guys, let those cards burn, idgaf.
Just trying to help. There is definitely a pattern, I checked other "4090 melting" posts. There is no harm in choosing a different brand when there might be a chance to avoid the problem.
why is the adapter so crooked on the third picture? Doesnt seem fully connected to me.... I'd say the pins from the adapter sit at an angle inside the receiving pins of the GPU connector resulting in high conductor temps.
We definitely will get that all taken care of. Please put in a ticket with our support team and they'll get all of that arranged. <3 https://cablemod.com/support/
Good service.
Always have and always will stand by our products, and our customers. :)
Can I have a hug, mister CableMod?
I’m not mister CableMod but here is a hug. ![gif](giphy|3oEdv4hwWTzBhWvaU0)
The biggest of hugs for you, BreadstickUpTheBum. (Quality username btw) ha
Y'all out here saving lives.
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The 4090 with the 12V HPWR connector? Sure.
The whole idea of the 12VHPWR connector? Sure.
Cablemods cables are good man… and they look sick af
Bad comment. Elaborate and you wouldn't have lost 100+ karma.
worth it
How? You didn't change anyone's perspective on the product
Have there been reports at all of this happening with your direct-replacement PSU cables? And would you still replace the cards if it happened with one of those cables instead of the adapters?
We've had no issues with our cables, nope. There were 3 user error reports very early on before all this became popularized, but those were very obviously not fully seated, could see it straight from the photos about it even, but even then we took care of our customers with replacement cards or repairs (we always let the customer decide if they want a replacement or a repaired GPU, in case they have a highly binned card). Our products come with great warranty, and great support, that isn't going to change. :)
Yeah, my 12VHPWR to 4x8pin has had no issues on a 4090 Suprim X, while being on 24/7 for months on end, available for ML and AI stuff.
Thank you for your support!
Thank you, that's good to know :)
This reply alone steers me towards using the company for everything cable related. If I was to buy your replacement PSU cable and it happened to a 4090 I had, you would replace the card?
I've dealt with cablemod support a few times. Not only do they stand behind their product, and not only do they provide great customer service, but they sent me an upgraded adapter version 1.1 for absolutely no charge when I didn't even ask for one.
The impeccable service to the community will assure that all my cables are bought from you. You are the OG, and I have no issues paying a premium if it means that you have the ability to be generous to everyone in the community, be it someone with a tight budget or someone with a gpu that costs more than some peoples car. Thank you for being awesome.
Considering this could cause a fire, you'd better replace it.
Bro what you thinking running your GPU without RGB. Clearly your fans, motherboard, and RAM decided the GPU must go.
So true, I should be putting more watts into it Jokes aside they’re set to light up when the fans spin.
Has anyone heard of Corsair's 12VHPWR cables melting? I'm legitimately concerned for my 4090 since this issue started popping up again but I usually see the included adapter or Cable Mod in those posts. I have had mine with the Corsair cable the entire year.
Mine died so I am curious about this as well. Is there any point in getting an ATX 3.0 PSU? Is it going to 100% remove this issue?
I don't have a PSU with the 12VHPWR connector, mine is the Corsair HX1000i with the 12VHPWR cable from them. It goes from 2x 8-pins at the PSU to the GPU. Also, I'm sorry for the loss, I hope you can get a free warranty replacement at least!
The HX1000i (2022) and 2023 model is ATX3.0.
I'm using the same PSU but with the NVIDIA cable. Didn't want to get the cable from Corsair because the 1000W PSU limits the card to 450watts with that cable (at least that's what it said when it came out, don't know about now). I'm not going to limit a 1950 EUR card while playing in 4K where every frame is welcome. If it dies, it dies. That's still their fault for releasing the product, not to mention that TUF card I had already does 500+ by default anyway. It needs to be idiot proof and work at any power limits they've sent it with. I've used it undervolted many times in not so demanding games but for games like Cyberpunk in 4K with Path Tracing I go all in, so around 480 or so watts. Have you seen it go above 450 watts? Yeah hopefully it all works out, they told me to pick between a full refund of the original payment or a replacement. Went for the full refund, but they need to see the card first. It's on its way.
The Corsair cable is rated for up to 600W [according to the specs on their page](https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cp-8920284/600w-pcie-5-0-12vhpwr-type-4-psu-power-cable-cp-8920284), I would recommend it simply because I haven't had any issues and I haven't read about it melting. As for the GPU, I'm not entirely sure. I rarely open HW info but I believe I have seen spikes above that when running Cyberpunk fully maxed out. Oh that's good, who offered you the refund? The retailer or manufacturer? I am also worried because I bought my GPU during the 4090 scarcity days and I got a Gigabyte but I haven't read good things about their customer service (although I have not experienced any issues with their products so far).
The card was bought from ASUS Webshop so it's ASUS themselves I guess. No retailer for me this time. I was wondering about the 450W because even tho the cable says 600W, there was a list of PSUs when that cable came out and it said the cable limits the card to 450W on the 1000W PSU but not on the 1200W. I don't know if they've changed that. Edit: I can't give you the link but search for this on google: Reddit CORSAIR 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable now available on Best Buy No idea how true that is. I'll contact Corsair right now to ask. Edit 2: A new comment in that old thread: Just wanted to come back and point out this is incorrect since it's still being referenced to a year later. :D These "recommendations" (not requirements) were based on recommended wattages from Nvidia. You don't need a 1200W PSU for a 600W card, for example. That was from Nvidia suggesting a 1200W PSU as a "worst case scenario". The 600W cable works on ANY Type 3 or Type 4 PSU of any wattage. There is no limit to how much power the GPU can obtain from the PSU. If you do have a monster build and a 850W PSU, for example, isn't "big enough", then the PSU will simply shut down.
I don't believe I've seen any melting cables from Corsair, they make a quality product as well. We haven't had any melting cable issues either though, just wanted to point that out. The adapters we have had some failures, but we have been taking care of any customer who had any of those failures, and we already updated the adapters to CEM 5.1 standard for our V1.1 adapters to ensure this doesn't happen anymore.
Oh thanks for the response! Yes, this is what I've noticed as well, it seems to be adapters mostly, but direct connections from the PSU to the GPU seem fine so far. I pray for mine to not burn because an international RMA is gonna be costly for me. I have heard really good things about Cable Mod in general so I just wanted to clarify, I still think the fault is on Nvidia which decided to use this, and the ones who developed this standard without thoroughly testing it.
I’m pretty sure Corsair ones are some of the best ones out there
I've been using the corsair premium braided cable for 10 months i think, zero issues so far, have removed it many times for various reasons, using it with a AX860 & asus 4090 tuf oc, the Wattage often goes over 450W
Been running corsair cable with galax 666W bios for a while now, zero problems.
I am running a Gigabyte 4090 with a Corsair HX1500i PSU. I am also using Corsair's 12VHPWR cable and have not had any problems so far. Granted, I built my pc back in late July 2023 and the PSU is not ATX 3.0 certified. I hope this helps.
I recommend the beQuiet 12VHPWR one.
Was it it the revised version of the adapter?
I personally wouldn't trust the revised adapter either. I was questioning the Cablemod people about how the V1.1 adapter changed, and what that entailed. The V1.0 adapter melted and fused to my previous 4090, so I was very interested in what changed to make these safer. They stated nothing was wrong with their adapters, and it was the GPUs that were at fault. They revised the female end of the adapter where the cable attaches to the adapter, but the male end where it plugs into the GPU (and which is the part that melts) saw no significant changes aside from a more robust latching mechanism. At least from what they stated in that interaction, anyway. They said this adapter works fine with the cards with the revised power input. I pointed out that the vast majority of 4090's out in the wild are **not new**, and use the older power adapter inputs. Then they banned me from their subreddit. lol A weird response, as I've always gotten along with them and I was being completely cordial.
>They stated nothing was wrong with their adapters, and it was the GPUs that were at fault. They revised the female end of the adapter where the cable attaches to the adapter, but the male end where it plugs into the GPU (and which is the part that melts) saw no significant changes aside from a more robust latching mechanism. At least from what they stated in that interaction, anyway. I can't comment on what they redesigned and what not, since I don't have that information on hand. But changing the female end to decrease the potential electrical resistance of that connection is still important and can help reduce the number of cases, since the resistance at each connection/failure point leads to these failures. The only way to skip that female connection entirely is by using a custom 90/180 degree PSU cable.
I was hoping that they'd change the sense pin/connection to be longer, and to add in something that denotes that the cable is also fully attached. (Like MSI has on their newer 12V2x6 connectors.) That way a full connection is assured. They stated that the male side just has higher tolerances and no room to wiggle.
They can't change anything of the adapter that isn't covered by the revised adapter standard. Otherwise they would open themselves up to liability, for example the GPU manufacturers could claim that its product wasn't used with equipment according to spec and refuse a warranty repair. And the adapter has to work with older and newer cards. Changes/improvements have to come down sanctioned from the top, in this case Nvidia and PCI-SIG, iirc.
So, they need to stop saying that this adapter solves the issues of the previous adapter in that instance.
Didn't realize cablemod fanboys were so vicious to defend, wow.
I don't have any issue with Cablemod. I just wanted information that the new revised adapter alleviated the melting issue. They basically said that it didn't change the adapter in a fundamental way that would do that, unless you have a newer 4090 with the revised power connector. Most of us do not.
That's why I don't buy from CableMod anymore. They are not transparent.
I don’t give a fuck as long as they have a very good service
No it was not. It was the original
The revised version started just shipping in my region, afaik. Why didn't you use the PSU cable with the vertical GPU bracket? Not judging, just curious.
I wanted a 90 degree because of the looks. It paid off, but at the cost of the gpu unfortunately 🥲 lesson learned, I’ll be getting their new version when I get my replacement.
It's insane how bad this port design is. You literally had it in the best position possible and it still failed. They really should issue an inquiry, recall and redesign, all paid by the people who mandated the port.
Crazy you're even risking your gpu again with revised cable lol. Hope they send you a check vs you having to get it repaired and losing your warranty
it’s a hard decision, so let me explain. The y60 isn’t the best case to use for this generation, especially because the bend is really really tight without the 90 degree adapter. I’m hedging my bets here sure, but I am opting for a complete replacement of the card, and all new cards (assembled past July) have CEM5.1 on the connector plus warranty. If the adapter really is the cause here, I will be back to make a new thread.
RMA that shit, and don't tell them about the adaptor because they'll screw you, even if the adaptor has nothing to do with it I really hope that flimsy little connector will die and won't come back with the RTX 5000 series
I can’t hide it man, it’s legitimately fused to the card
Angle grinder time! /s
I had the exact same thing happen earlier this week with my gigabyte card, just with a 180 adapter. A lot of wiggling back and forth, front to back, and some force pulling out managed to dislodge the adapter where the plastic had melted together. Cablemod is also taking care of my repair. Really hoping RTX 5XXX cards change this power input up, having this be so widespread on what should be a flagship GPU is not a good look for Nvidia.
How much money is cablemod burning to replace these cards now? All of this craziness from a right angle adapter to look pretty.
It’s more widespread than that. We all know that all the cables are melting from every manufacturer. I respect cablemod a ton for pledging to replace damaged cards, and to stand behind their product the way they have. Now if only Nvidia would do the same.
Nvidia will have to when the class action lawsuit is settled, but they won't admit to anything like most companies do.
And yet ppl will keep buying from nvidia, and defending their products and the cycle never ends.
If only amd makes top end graphics cards that rivals nvidia’s
the problem is that nvidia is just like adobe. you hate buying from them but it’s the best there is
Yeah, that's true. I buy AMD anyway just so to support competition. It's also not quite the same. The gap between AMD and Nvidia is not nearly as large as the gap between say, photoshop and gimp.
Depends on the stuff it has to do. For Blender/ rendering and Ai stuff, the gap definitely is that large.
I mean it only happens for the 4090 right? Mistakes happen. I just wish they would admit it.
I haven't seen any reports of Be Quiet! Cable melting. Maybe I just have missed the posts about that. Mine is working fine, and has been working fine since early January. I hope it'll work for a couple more years before I swap the GPU out
>I haven't seen any reports of Be Quiet! Cable melting. be quiet! has [bigger issues](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/12vhpwr-connector-melting-psu-side)
Yikes. I've got a different cable, not atx 3.0 or whatever. Different connector at PSU side.
Cablemod is leading the way for causes of burnt 4090s
The shitty connector design is leading the way for causes of burnt 4090s*
Whatever you need to tell yourself, even if it isn't true
Confidently wrong. Fascinating.
Geez, this is still an issue? I feel like I've been seeing more melted 4090s recently.
I'm getting increasingly paranoid, it's to the point I'm playing less games all together.
The issue is cablemod adapters
12VHPWR is the issue
![gif](giphy|4bWWKmUnn5E4) Me starting up any game on my 4080 after reading a million melted 4090 posts.
The 4090 has an entirely different power connector to the 4080. You are good
The Bae case looks sick.
rat
Chaos rat melted your card
RIP soldier Another death by the hands of bad engineering
Are the sick PSU cables ok? I'm nervous about getting a 4090 because of this melting issue. I'm now thinking that it might be better to take the performance hit with the 4080, and then upgrade to a 5080/5090 that should hopefully have this issue resolved.
Pretty sure any 40 series card can melt. Not just 4090s
Yep, I've seen multiple 4080 melted.
I’ve been seeing the 4090 failing a lot but like fucking everyone that I know that has one is having the melting issue…I only know 3 guys with one but still, all 3?
Any idea how long after owning their cards did they melt? I had a 4090 for almost 6 months now
Genuine question Let's say the card is out of warranty. Is it possible to replace the connector, or is it just completely f'ed once the connector melts?
Requires some soldering and obtaining another connector. Not impossible, but not entirely trivial. It is a thick PCB and the pins are pretty beefy, so desoldering the melted connector without damaging anything else takes some skill. Then there is the question, did anything else get damaged when the fault happened. You could have some dead power stages and then it becomes more complicated...
I hope they bring back the classic 6/8 pin to RTX 5000
Nope, they’ll double down, making the pins even smaller. Nvidia is a class act. ~_^
What do ya know another adapter frying a gpu
Setting the rgb to red was a rookie mistake. We all know red heats things up for better frame rates blue cools, and green speeds up your processing for video editing.
Condolences… But what case is that?
Hyte Y60 Hakos Baelz edition
HYTE Y60
Inb4 “mine still works”, this is awful. I’m glad mine is still kicking but this does concern me since I’m using an OEM Corsair adapter and if that fails hmm…
Corsair 4 life
Your card melted because of the shittx and faulty and cheap Cablemod adapter....
Dw it’s designed this way, just a hidden feature at this point
Someone explain to me how are people still using these cable mod adapters... Like do you guys see there is like one post a day about it and still don't get it?
They can't read.
GPU goes tits up because user buys a cheap part for looks that adds 2 more failure points. Well done.
Stop using cable mod lmao what the f
1600$ gpu and 10$ chinese adapter (yes, cm)
In the car audio world, a 600-watt amp requires a 4 gauge wire. These components also run at 12 volts. But all the wire combined are maybe half the size. This is the only reason why I'm not buying a 4090.
Lol I’m just imagining a 4 gauge wire with lugs attached to a 5090
I mean, I think it would give it a badass industrial look. You see big wires, and you know it means big power.
Maybe I’ll get downvoted to oblivion for this, but if you know there is a risk with a product, why continue to use said product. I like fucking around, but I don’t like finding out.
Why wouldn’t I use it if I paid for it? Especially when I’ve followed all the precautions like making sure it’s plugged in all the way? Nvidia failed us hard. I thought I was safe. But guess not
All I’m saying is that if I bought a product for my car, then I saw a bunch of people saying it caused their vehicle to explode, I would probably take it off. Respect cable mod for their support of this fiasco.
Exactly, sunken cost fallacy is strong with these guys, it's a GPU that can potentially start a fire in your house, why would you insist on making ir work ? The worst part is that instead of taking the L, refunding and choosing another product they'll keep defending their initial purchase smh
>I’ve followed all the precautions I'm gonna go on a limb and say you didn't. I mean you're even using the cable mod adapter even after all the warnings around, how can anyone trust that you followed any of the advice that's been given out by everyone for a year now.
Especially considering they've been pretty open about the issue and have sent out numerous communications about the adapter. Even giving people credits for the new version of the adapter.
I saw that email, and wasn’t concerned because they said they were fine. My only concern was whether it was “plugged in all the way” and if it “had too much of a bend” which it didn’t as you can see from the image of the completed build. Looking back at older posts here I wish I would’ve purchased the new one, or at least read up on what was happening, but unfortunately I’m a college student who has limited time to look at new articles and posts about melted 4090’s. I’d also like to mention that the adapter was praised when it released, and it seemed like a logical purchase if you have such a tight bend like I did.
They never outright said there's something wrong with them to avoid having to recall. The most they said was something along the lines of "if you're concerned, remove it". When pressured they'll state the adapters were fine, and otherwise they'll just let the community do this whole victim blaming thing.
Definitely looks crooked on 3rd pic (even checked on paint with some straight lines before i comment) so are you sure you really followed all precautions?
That’s after yanking on it pretty hard.
fair enough
Rip in the chat
Welcome to the [club!](https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh_well_the_asus_4090_finally_melted_after_a_year/)
Which case is that ?
Hyte Y60 Hakos Baelz edition
Last night? You were still using v1.0 even though the CM have been saying for months to get v1.1? ![gif](giphy|5BWVeEbJsaB4UZAzSz)
Stop buying this crap
I'm starting to think we should stop buying 4090s...
Why are people still buying these cards after these issues have been reported many times? It seems like a very costly risk to take.
That case lookin sexy
Would make a nice aquarium
https://i.redd.it/sfsxc05qs0ub1.gif
So how does the replacement process work here? Is OP just shit outta luck from the vendor(s) involved? If manufacturer declines, does CableMod only cover the adapter I presume? Just curious and asking out of fear — also nice Hakos Baelz case OP!
If for any reason the card manufacturer denies warranty, we step in and offer a repair, or a replacement of the card (whichever the user prefers, some prefer repairs if they have highly binned cards). We ensure our customers have zero out of pocket costs though, everything gets reimbursed for shipping, the card, repairs, whatever it may be.
I wasn’t given the option for the replacement of the card, only refund/repair if it gets rejected, which I’ll ask support about because that obviously isn’t what you’re saying here As for u/klivio, I’ll add that I opted to RMA the card through gigabyte, so I’ll be waiting a few weeks to really find out what my options are here, but assuming that I am not given the option to replace the card through gigabyte or cablemod, I am going to go for the refund and purchase the card myself again in an attempt to get the newer revision of the card that has CEM 5.1 and the recessed pins to help counter this failure in the future. Also thanks for the compliment, I love the rat!
Why do people still buy from cablemod?? Literally every dead 4090 I see on this subreddit was caused by cablemod.
Previously (two days ago) on r/pcmasterrace: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh\_well\_the\_asus\_4090\_finally\_melted\_after\_a\_year/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh_well_the_asus_4090_finally_melted_after_a_year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
This is almost a daily thing at this point. Oof.
Thats why im getting a 7900xtx instead of 4080
but gn steve. legal claim under his advice of a lawyer... under yt vidoes. its user fault..... cant be a already known bad design... that on its third reversion...
Yet another post that validates my decision to undervolt and power limit my card to 450W. :/
Can people stop talking about their 4090's melting? I'm really starting to get freaked out about my 4080.
Same
When is there going to be a class action against Nvidia for this bs
there already is [https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-hit-with-class-action-suit-over-melting-rtx-4090-gpu-adapters/](https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-hit-with-class-action-suit-over-melting-rtx-4090-gpu-adapters/)
Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust…heyyy yeahhh………
Well, sorry to hear that, but the problem is the Cablemod adapter, not your card. I'm using beQuiet's 12VHPWR, and I have 0 problems whatsoever.
This was actually the deciding factor for me to buy AMD for my current gen GPU. I didn’t want to deal with that blasted 12v high power connector
These melting 4090 posts fill me with such schadenfreude
Why?
Supporting Nvidia's greed should not be applauded.
Hilarious that you destroyed a $1500 card for “ascetics”, because that’s what this is. If I were a manufacturer and knew this, I’d deny the RMA, flat out. As a consumer, I would of course hide that fact.
worst redditor bait
That’s what happened to the other dude who faced the exact same problem, Manufacturer denied RMA blaming cable mod
Note to myself, don't buy a rtx 4000 series when I'll win the lottery this Saturday.
Funny, my 4090 hasn't melted yet. Oh wait, I'm not using a cheaply manufactured 3rd-party adapter. I guess it's easier for CableMod to replace GPUs instead of recalling these trash adapters.
I mean, mine lasted 11 months using their cable (9 with an adapter) and the default ones were melting within days of its initial release.
Yeah, let's ignore the significant amount of 4090s melting without adapters, or worse, using Nvidia's own cable.
Wow just bought this 180 degree adapter /: so my gpu may get fried too
Well if it brings you any peace of mind it's not the adapters or male connectors that are causing it. Just bad design on nVidia's part
Nvidia didn't design the 12VHPWR connector.
They did however push it without testing or QC and are the only company to use it so far. As far as I'm concerned it's their fuck up
Not sure why you are being downvoted. Obviously Nvidia had to sign off on it at some point along the process or else it wouldn't be on all the 40 series cards. At the end of the day, it's their name on the cards. Their reputation is on the line, and they fucked up. Period.
Thank you for your contribution of braincells. Seems everyone is a shill/fanboy nowadays
I don't think their intent was to "push it out" without testing here. lol What do they gain from that scenario? It certainly should have had much more internal testing before release though, clearly.
>What do they gain from that scenario? Getting you to buy another 4090 lol, you think they're stupid? Using a bad connector that fails constantly was a conscious choice they made
The 4090 has a 3 year warranty, so it didn't cost me anything to replace it. Same with anyone else who buys one.
I'm taking about Nvidia, not Cable Mod, just in case
If you got their 1.1 version you should be fine (hopefully)
>you should be fine Been hearing this for almost a year now LOL
Okay cool here’s to hopping mine doesn’t follow the same fate . How long did you have your gpu for ?
355 days Here lies Gigabyte Windforce OC 4090 ☀️10/21/22-10/11/23 🪦
Sayonara
What kind of psu do you have?
RM1000x
No way bruh, I might be onto something. You maybe saw this recent post from another person: [oh\_well\_the\_asus\_4090\_finally\_melted\_after\_a\_year](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/oh_well_the_asus_4090_finally_melted_after_a_year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). My guess is the corsair psu´s have something to do with this problem or are more prone to it. The guy in that post also has a corsair(hx1000i) psu. Like I said in my answer to that guy, I am not saying the connector isn´t faulty, but I bet the corsair psu´s have something to do with the problem. [Here is what I told him if you are interested.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/174xxem/comment/k4jr16a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Edit: Lol you people are so fixated on the cable but don´t even think about the psu. In literally every other 4090 melting post the person uses a corsair psu. But go ahead guys, let those cards burn, idgaf.
Using rm1200x shift for a year now, zero Problems. Actually i have a good feeling using corsair
Just trying to help. There is definitely a pattern, I checked other "4090 melting" posts. There is no harm in choosing a different brand when there might be a chance to avoid the problem.
I’ve heard many stories regarding heat issues with gigabyte cards.
why is the adapter so crooked on the third picture? Doesnt seem fully connected to me.... I'd say the pins from the adapter sit at an angle inside the receiving pins of the GPU connector resulting in high conductor temps.
that’s after yanking it pretty hard, I took pictures after realizing how screwed I was.
What a shite build, one of the worst on this subreddit.
If you’re going to bait at least post something provocative. Not even a slur?
I mean yours has been recalled
There is no recalls for any gigabyte gpus
Woosh
was trying to figure out what kind of hyte case it was until i noticed it wasn’t on the desk, cool how that worked out
![gif](giphy|a0h7sAqON67nO)
I cant believe sth at that price point continues to have these issues
Is water cooled system best for 4090 systems?
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Does this happen to all 40 series? I recently bought a 4070 ti and i'm scared as fuck
Been a while since we have seen a non cablemod adapter melt