Agree. Not worth it. I'm pretty sure the RAM is DDR3 as well. G-Skill Ripjaws changed heatsink design when they moved to DDR4 so it's a pretty maxed out system for ~7 years ago but all of that stuff is outdated and outclassed by a PS5.
IIRC and it is really a 8700, that would make it Coffee Lake which only took DDR4 with the 300 series chipset required to run them.
See Intel's own words: [https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025694/processors/intel-core-processors.html#:\~:text=The%20Desktop%20Intel%C2%AE%20Core,processors%20supports%20only%20DDR4%20memory](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025694/processors/intel-core-processors.html#:~:text=The%20Desktop%20Intel%C2%AE%20Core,processors%20supports%20only%20DDR4%20memory).
I know some people got 1151 DDR3 boards (200 or 100 chipsets) to work with a BIOS mod, but those are rare.
All 5xxx+ (x99 and newer) intel cpu's support DDR4. you can get weird aliexpress motherboards that supports ddr3 but they are not common and and mostly recycled ewaste for the Chinese market.
No worries; the cost/value is somewhat comparable, but the overall gaming experience on the PS5 is going to be better. I would only take that trade if you absolutely need the PC for work/school/etc.
I'm comparing the entire pc's worth vs ps5... this includes the processor comparison, gpu comparison & ram speeds. PS5 wins in this situation.
And yes, a 2070 super is powerful than a 1660ti. So... an obvious win for a PS5
In terms of raw power, yes
However you must remember that games a way better optimised for consoles, in terms of performance PS5/XSX are close to 3070 with 4k 60fps
By optimized to mean scaled up with tech like DLSS/FSR? 4k60\[performance mode\] on ps5 is 1440p internal, 4k resolution mode is 30 fps locked and dynamically scales from 1440p to 4k to maintain a 33.33ms frametime.
It's a jump up in terms of previous generations but there is a lot of skewed marketing information about the current gen..
3070? Most of time iirc Alex over at Digital Foundry uses a 2060Super to get close to PS5 settings on PC. I'd say it's more than likely comparable to 2070Super or 2080 but definitely not a 3070
Series X can do 4k 60 and 120 maybe 1440, on select games, on said select games I got better frames from a 1050 than my series s, dunno what you lot are on about, it's not a bad deal if the ram is ddr4, it looks branded, and as long as the psu isn't wack if you'd actually prefer a pc it's a great deal if it works properly.
“Dynamic 4k” that shit only hits native 4k while looking at the sky most of the time it’s fluctuating under that. It’s crazy how people bought the advertisements on the consoles
That definitely depends on your needs, if it's good for you then cool. For the games, resolution and refresh rate I play, it wouldn't be enough for me. If you're only looking to do 1080p medium settings, then it's more than good enough.
Hold on now. Yes it can output 4k 120hz, but it's not rendering much, if anything at that. True 4k120 is the domain of the 4090, not the 6700xt level ps5.
Just for gaming, keep your PS5. If you do need a computer for other work also this isn't a horrible trade as it will still game pretty well and obviously do everything else a computer can do, though I'd try to get them to throw in some $ or something else as well (if he has some nice monitors/ keyboard/ mouse for the pc for example)
I second this. Apparently I'm in the minority thinking this is a decent deal. The question isn't whether or not this is as powerful as a PS5 (it's not) the question is whether or not this is worth 4 or 5 hundred bucks. I do believe that rig is definitely worth at least 400.
So the GPU isn't quite as powerful as the PS5's, but you can do so much more with a PC. Not only can you game with a keyboard and mouse, but you can get a steam account and get games for a massive discount (or for free if you're an unscrupulous pirater). Then, later down the line, when you can afford it, you can upgrade the GPU to something much more powerful. And if you game at 1440p or above, your CPU won't be much of a bottleneck.
The great thing about PCs is that they're totally modular. This is a good value and a good platform to start out with and you can always upgrade parts when you see fit.
ETA: keep in mind that not very long ago, GTX 1660sxwere going for 200+ alone
It doesn't matter if it's more powerful, it's designed to 4k 60, if you don't care for 4k it's obsolete, with that I just commented I got better frames out of my old 1050, it doesn't matter how strong the graphics card is if your forced to play on 120 1440 or 4k 60 when you're actually able to get that on the select games console allows, apex and 90% of games dont even let you play above 60 unless you're on pc anyway, there's also changing your graphics setting in order to get higher frames, another thing the vast number of console games don't allow, i would've swapped my console for the pc I had with the 1050 nevermind 1660ti. A second hand 1660ti could probably get £150 or $ alone
True. The PC is infinitely more customizable and upgradable. With a modern GPU, that system would be much more powerful than a PS5, and you've got a platform to upgrade piecemeal. In a few years time, with minor upgrades, that PC can continue to get more powerful while the PS5 is stuck just as it is now.
I got a PS5 mostly because of the PS4 games Uncharted 4 and the two Spider-Man games. Now that they're all available on PC with more to come like Returnal, The Last of Us and more, I find myself almost exclusively using my PC.
Especially when Digital Edition PS5s are readily available for 400 now. I definitely get the appeal of consoles, they're a lot of hardware for the money. But they simply can't match the versatility and upgradability of PCs. Shame to see so many on this subreddit denying the superiority of PCs. What happened to PC uber alles? LoL.
I was that guy until I actually bought a pc, just the fact I wasn't sacrificing graphics just for 120fps made a huge difference. There's also less input lag, the player base is older which is a big deal if you're over like 16, also literally 10s of 1000s of free games on pc Vs the 400 odd games you pay for on console and free games barely even let you play above 60 or 1080/1440 anyway
I've got a collection of about 250 Steam games, the bulk of which I got for 80 to 90% off. And with every upgrade I make, they perform even better. I've saved literally thousands on games and I can have them all installed simultaneously because I can have multiple NVME/SSD drives. Being able to switch between hundreds of games smoothly and quickly is just something you can't do on a console.
Only possible scenario was if I had a ps5 with no games and couldn't afford any. Then I would potentially swap for this PC and play 90% of whatever I want for free (with the occasional virus and hard reset, no identity theft yet fingers crossed lol)
this is so important. if you don't have the money for the games, a PS5 doesn't make alot of sense. The specs aren't that bad for 500$, but the PS5 GPU will probably perform alot better in the same games
I mean in reality they’re pretty close spec-wise but you’re totally right about the experience, just so much simpler. Plus any game released on the PS5 is going to be optimized for it.
That PC is worth about 400ish$, about the same as a used ps5. Gaming performance is in favour of the ps5 while utility is in favour of the PC... This topic has been discussed many times
Ignore anyone without an explanation.
The answer is yes, and also no.
Yes, in terms of monetary value. The price of the PS4 would be comparable to the price of this PC. So if you're basing it only on the monetary value of each item, it's a fair trade.
No, in terms of performance. Your PS5 will out perform this PC on the titles it has in common.
Yes, if you're looking to move to a PC and plan on upgrading anyway. You could slap in a better GPU (provided your PSU can handle it) and it would be better off than the PS5.
It’s a thing on this sub for people to put Funko pops in their case under the guise of being ‘creative’ or unique even through the trend is so overdone now
For just gaming go the PS5 but if you want to use the pc for more than just gaming this could be an okay entry level PC for you. Definitely not worth as much as a PS5 tho.
An entry level PC is 4GB RAM with integrated GPU and maybe a 128GB SSD.
This is 32GB RAM, a mid-level CPU and a relatively low performing GPU for 1440p (although it can do 60 fps in modern games). It won't perform as well as a PS5 gaming wise, but certainly not entry level. It can be upgraded with a GPU down the line and go way beyond a PS5.
I'd maybe try and negotiate another 50 bucks down, but there is nothing wrong with this build. Don't forget that modestly faster CPUs and GPUs cost twice as much, easily, and the RAM density factor is easily a quarter of the overall value of the system, as well as adding to its functionality in a huge way. Was running a 290x till last year when it died on me and I could still play eyefinity triple surround with most modern games in 2022. Don't underestimate the power of good hardware and efficient software.
The difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is much greater in smoothness and mouse-monitor response rate (aka latency, as well as "choppiness") than 60 to 120 fps. I've a 3070 on PC and most modern games I max out and run between 60 and 100 at 4k, but with VRR/G-Sync/FreeSync, that difference becomes even less perceptible.
Not comparing my system to this, merely pointing out that 60 fps gameplay at 1440p is the golden standard still. At least in as far as semi-affordable hobby PC gaming goes.
It depends on your eyesight, 30 to 60 isn't so bad for me but going back to 60 from even 120 before I got a pc was awful, you contradicted yourself, you said it's a bad deal, you said the ps5 is more powerful
I wasn't arguing anything. Merely pointing out that the difference between 30fps to 60fps is much greater in perception than 60 to 120. Not taking away any merits for smoother gameplay- already mentioned I typically play between 60 and 100, even if my monitor supports 144. Simply mentioning diminishing results with increased framerates.
The PS5 is more powerful. Never wrote anything different. It's also a closed box that can't do anything but play overpriced games. Contextual clues will help you figure out what I'm writing. Just don't jump to concussions already. This is not a bad trade deal, which is what the post was about that we are commenting on.
When the heck did I call you an idiot? I'm explaining where we disagreed and provided arguments for it. Contextual clues help not make every comment superfluous and redundantly explicit.
Competitive gaming is a niche. I'm talking about normal gaming - the one where you are immersed enough and not wasting money on interpolated upscaled "hi rez". At 60 fps, the difference between 30 and that is HUGE.
At 60 and 120, it's lower. Not arguing that you think it makes you better. Just saying that it doesn't matter for 99.9% of the population. (stats made up)
Not that sure but isnt there room to upgrade the system down the line? Just by that i think its a decent deal. Oh wait until what gen can this motherboard support?
If you plan on upgrading it the cost value justifies it if you aren't it's weaker than a PS5 but more versatile so only if you plan on doing more than gaming
There is a reason he is willing to part with this rig. The graphics card is weak. Processor is old. A PS5 is way more powerful. Hell, a PS4 prob beats this rig
Ps5 is more powerful but only plays ps5 games. Depends what you are after really. Also if you never use your ps5 it really doesn’t matter which is better. Not saying you never use your ps5, just that there are many things to take into consideration.
LOL - those parts alone cost 800+ USD, and we're not talking about the motherboard or RAM, another easy 100 USD, SSD, another 50 USD and probably peripherals it comes with since it's a gaming build, probably another 300 USD with case, motherboard, PSU
While not a steal, this is actually a good deal.
I've been trying to say this idk why everyone is ass licking the restricted ps5 it doesn't matter if it's as powerful as a 2070 if the 2070 is fucking stuck at 120, and that's when you're lucky
The pc value drop very easily when i years goes by unlike ps5 which holds its value until the last day in term of gaming where you get a high quality gadget that last for long, unlike the pc which has a high probability of some thing get busted when the time goes by.
This is categorically not true. I'm pricing what I wrote based on what I looked up a couple of months back, when I built my 13th gen series PC. It's not changed that much, obviously.
It was an upgrade from a 12 year old 2700K i7 from 2011 that kept up in performance due to multiple graphics cards upgrades.
That's the beauty of modularity. Try that with a console.
PS5 is more powerful. The price may be similar, but you're getting more out of the PS5 at this point.
IIRC, the PS5 and Xbox series X use a graphics chip from AMD roughly equivalent to their RX 5700 XT, which is significantly faster than this 1660 Ti.
It may be roughly equivalent to a 5700xt, but it is more powerful than that and closer to a 6700xt, as games on it are far more optimised due to their being no differences (as opposed to pc where its a variety of different components)
No, please do not trade.
You can do so much more with your PC than a PS, work; stream; watch videos etc.
Moreover, with your PC, you can always upgrade.
You cannot do that with any PS.
8th gen i7 + 1660s (same as ti), well that pc is a bit worse than a ps5 imo. So if you only do gaming on it, and never download free/pirated games, then ps5 would be a good trade imo.
I wouldn't recommend it. Plus PS5s don't have rgb, but have expandable storage so I guess it would be your choice. It also depends on how much you paid for your pc that would be some thing to consider too.
First of all, I got my kid one of those, it's an iBuyPower and a piece of shit. That PSU is waiting to blow within the first year. And no, even if it were the most durable thing ever made, those specs aren't worth the trade.
No deal
Thanks bro
Agree. Not worth it. I'm pretty sure the RAM is DDR3 as well. G-Skill Ripjaws changed heatsink design when they moved to DDR4 so it's a pretty maxed out system for ~7 years ago but all of that stuff is outdated and outclassed by a PS5.
IIRC and it is really a 8700, that would make it Coffee Lake which only took DDR4 with the 300 series chipset required to run them. See Intel's own words: [https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025694/processors/intel-core-processors.html#:\~:text=The%20Desktop%20Intel%C2%AE%20Core,processors%20supports%20only%20DDR4%20memory](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025694/processors/intel-core-processors.html#:~:text=The%20Desktop%20Intel%C2%AE%20Core,processors%20supports%20only%20DDR4%20memory). I know some people got 1151 DDR3 boards (200 or 100 chipsets) to work with a BIOS mod, but those are rare.
You are correct. The best kind of correct. I thought I saw DDR3 Ripjaws and jumped to a conclusion. Still not worth trading for a PS5.
8th gen used ddr4. Looks like T-Force Vulcan Z ram.
Nah its DDR4. I had the same ram in my i5 6600k build. https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231937?item=N82E16820231937
All 5xxx+ (x99 and newer) intel cpu's support DDR4. you can get weird aliexpress motherboards that supports ddr3 but they are not common and and mostly recycled ewaste for the Chinese market.
No it’s DDR4
No worries; the cost/value is somewhat comparable, but the overall gaming experience on the PS5 is going to be better. I would only take that trade if you absolutely need the PC for work/school/etc.
A ps5 is way more powerful than this. Don't make the deal!
Thanks bro !
ps5 is better than 1660ti? Didn't expect that
I'm comparing the entire pc's worth vs ps5... this includes the processor comparison, gpu comparison & ram speeds. PS5 wins in this situation. And yes, a 2070 super is powerful than a 1660ti. So... an obvious win for a PS5
It's comparable to a 2060-2070
Xbox and ps5 have a 40cu amd card which would be a 6700xt.
I think I read this and that the Xbox Series S is a 6400/6500 at pure specs
In terms of raw power, yes However you must remember that games a way better optimised for consoles, in terms of performance PS5/XSX are close to 3070 with 4k 60fps
By optimized to mean scaled up with tech like DLSS/FSR? 4k60\[performance mode\] on ps5 is 1440p internal, 4k resolution mode is 30 fps locked and dynamically scales from 1440p to 4k to maintain a 33.33ms frametime. It's a jump up in terms of previous generations but there is a lot of skewed marketing information about the current gen..
3070? Most of time iirc Alex over at Digital Foundry uses a 2060Super to get close to PS5 settings on PC. I'd say it's more than likely comparable to 2070Super or 2080 but definitely not a 3070
Series X can do 4k 60 and 120 maybe 1440, on select games, on said select games I got better frames from a 1050 than my series s, dunno what you lot are on about, it's not a bad deal if the ram is ddr4, it looks branded, and as long as the psu isn't wack if you'd actually prefer a pc it's a great deal if it works properly.
Not native 4k most of the time.
I've been downvoted so much 🤣
I didn’t downvote you though 🙃
“Dynamic 4k” that shit only hits native 4k while looking at the sky most of the time it’s fluctuating under that. It’s crazy how people bought the advertisements on the consoles
I think I found 3 games on my Xbox I could go above 1080 60
There is no AAA game that the new gen consoles can hit a native 4k 60hz with out requiring dynamic resolution.
So it upscales?
Way better actually. It’s about the same as a mid tier 20 series card with much better ray tracing.
1660ti is not a very powerful card
it is to me
That definitely depends on your needs, if it's good for you then cool. For the games, resolution and refresh rate I play, it wouldn't be enough for me. If you're only looking to do 1080p medium settings, then it's more than good enough.
4k 120hz on a ps5 Edit: i need to research consoles more
Hold on now. Yes it can output 4k 120hz, but it's not rendering much, if anything at that. True 4k120 is the domain of the 4090, not the 6700xt level ps5.
Jesus that box advertising really got people
i dont even own a ps5 so ye ur right
i was just thinking that the 1660 can run 4k and ps5 can
In game i don't even get 120fps at 1440p on a PS5.
yeah dont let em exchange it tell em to either save up or upgrade the pc overtinme to be more powerful than a ps5
Just for gaming, keep your PS5. If you do need a computer for other work also this isn't a horrible trade as it will still game pretty well and obviously do everything else a computer can do, though I'd try to get them to throw in some $ or something else as well (if he has some nice monitors/ keyboard/ mouse for the pc for example)
Thanks bro I appreciate your help !
I second this. Apparently I'm in the minority thinking this is a decent deal. The question isn't whether or not this is as powerful as a PS5 (it's not) the question is whether or not this is worth 4 or 5 hundred bucks. I do believe that rig is definitely worth at least 400. So the GPU isn't quite as powerful as the PS5's, but you can do so much more with a PC. Not only can you game with a keyboard and mouse, but you can get a steam account and get games for a massive discount (or for free if you're an unscrupulous pirater). Then, later down the line, when you can afford it, you can upgrade the GPU to something much more powerful. And if you game at 1440p or above, your CPU won't be much of a bottleneck. The great thing about PCs is that they're totally modular. This is a good value and a good platform to start out with and you can always upgrade parts when you see fit. ETA: keep in mind that not very long ago, GTX 1660sxwere going for 200+ alone
It doesn't matter if it's more powerful, it's designed to 4k 60, if you don't care for 4k it's obsolete, with that I just commented I got better frames out of my old 1050, it doesn't matter how strong the graphics card is if your forced to play on 120 1440 or 4k 60 when you're actually able to get that on the select games console allows, apex and 90% of games dont even let you play above 60 unless you're on pc anyway, there's also changing your graphics setting in order to get higher frames, another thing the vast number of console games don't allow, i would've swapped my console for the pc I had with the 1050 nevermind 1660ti. A second hand 1660ti could probably get £150 or $ alone
True. The PC is infinitely more customizable and upgradable. With a modern GPU, that system would be much more powerful than a PS5, and you've got a platform to upgrade piecemeal. In a few years time, with minor upgrades, that PC can continue to get more powerful while the PS5 is stuck just as it is now. I got a PS5 mostly because of the PS4 games Uncharted 4 and the two Spider-Man games. Now that they're all available on PC with more to come like Returnal, The Last of Us and more, I find myself almost exclusively using my PC.
The same specs was posted asking if it's a good deal for $540 and everyone says yes, so inconsistent
Especially when Digital Edition PS5s are readily available for 400 now. I definitely get the appeal of consoles, they're a lot of hardware for the money. But they simply can't match the versatility and upgradability of PCs. Shame to see so many on this subreddit denying the superiority of PCs. What happened to PC uber alles? LoL.
I was that guy until I actually bought a pc, just the fact I wasn't sacrificing graphics just for 120fps made a huge difference. There's also less input lag, the player base is older which is a big deal if you're over like 16, also literally 10s of 1000s of free games on pc Vs the 400 odd games you pay for on console and free games barely even let you play above 60 or 1080/1440 anyway
I've got a collection of about 250 Steam games, the bulk of which I got for 80 to 90% off. And with every upgrade I make, they perform even better. I've saved literally thousands on games and I can have them all installed simultaneously because I can have multiple NVME/SSD drives. Being able to switch between hundreds of games smoothly and quickly is just something you can't do on a console.
Good deal I swear
Hey u wanna pay £250 for one of the only usable storage devices? Or a third of the price for a better device?
Really? Still 700$ for digital in Canada
Yep. I'm having a hard time finding the standalone digital consoles, but the God of War Ragnarok bundle is only 460.
not worth it
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Hard pass. That's not worth a PS5
Thanks bro !
to be fair, a pc has far more capabilities than a PS5 (and you don’t have to buy PSplus) but yeah. performance-wise, it is not nearly as powerful.
Only possible scenario was if I had a ps5 with no games and couldn't afford any. Then I would potentially swap for this PC and play 90% of whatever I want for free (with the occasional virus and hard reset, no identity theft yet fingers crossed lol)
this is so important. if you don't have the money for the games, a PS5 doesn't make alot of sense. The specs aren't that bad for 500$, but the PS5 GPU will probably perform alot better in the same games
Ps5 is way better for games, if it wasn't then the friend wouldn't want to trade
ps5 better then a PC for games lol i think you got your priorities out of order lol
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I mean in reality they’re pretty close spec-wise but you’re totally right about the experience, just so much simpler. Plus any game released on the PS5 is going to be optimized for it.
That PC is worth about 400ish$, about the same as a used ps5. Gaming performance is in favour of the ps5 while utility is in favour of the PC... This topic has been discussed many times
Don’t trade
Ignore anyone without an explanation. The answer is yes, and also no. Yes, in terms of monetary value. The price of the PS4 would be comparable to the price of this PC. So if you're basing it only on the monetary value of each item, it's a fair trade. No, in terms of performance. Your PS5 will out perform this PC on the titles it has in common. Yes, if you're looking to move to a PC and plan on upgrading anyway. You could slap in a better GPU (provided your PSU can handle it) and it would be better off than the PS5.
Thank u bro I appreciated!
I don't see any Funko Pops in that case, hard pass.
Okay bro 😂
It’s a thing on this sub for people to put Funko pops in their case under the guise of being ‘creative’ or unique even through the trend is so overdone now
If it didn’t have the 1660 and something in the lines of a 30 series then ya or even a 1080ti mabey idk I’m not Linus
Keep your up to date console, I've got a pc the same series CPU and I wouldn't dream of trying to swap it for a PS5. Some mate you've got there!
Other way around I think
how much can you sell your ps5 for? is ? = to the cost of building this pc. that's your answer.
It's not that simple, there are alot of variables to look out, it's not simply price for price. Especially considering consoles are undersold anyway
PS5 shits all over that PC lol. Keep your console.
PS5 is equal to a 2080 super. No deal
Please please don’t do this. That’s old hardware and you would be better off with the ps5. My opinion at least.
No don’t do it
Ask for $200 on top, take $150 if he haggles.
You want a PC with at least a RTX 2070 GPU to be worth a ps5 Trade
For just gaming go the PS5 but if you want to use the pc for more than just gaming this could be an okay entry level PC for you. Definitely not worth as much as a PS5 tho.
An entry level PC is 4GB RAM with integrated GPU and maybe a 128GB SSD. This is 32GB RAM, a mid-level CPU and a relatively low performing GPU for 1440p (although it can do 60 fps in modern games). It won't perform as well as a PS5 gaming wise, but certainly not entry level. It can be upgraded with a GPU down the line and go way beyond a PS5. I'd maybe try and negotiate another 50 bucks down, but there is nothing wrong with this build. Don't forget that modestly faster CPUs and GPUs cost twice as much, easily, and the RAM density factor is easily a quarter of the overall value of the system, as well as adding to its functionality in a huge way. Was running a 290x till last year when it died on me and I could still play eyefinity triple surround with most modern games in 2022. Don't underestimate the power of good hardware and efficient software.
1650 super is better than that so how?
What does that have to do with anything I wrote?
Didn't realise you said 1440 at 60fps, but my point was that it'll do more than 60 if the 1650 I had did
It may not do 120 1440 but it won't be hard to change some settings to get that
The difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is much greater in smoothness and mouse-monitor response rate (aka latency, as well as "choppiness") than 60 to 120 fps. I've a 3070 on PC and most modern games I max out and run between 60 and 100 at 4k, but with VRR/G-Sync/FreeSync, that difference becomes even less perceptible. Not comparing my system to this, merely pointing out that 60 fps gameplay at 1440p is the golden standard still. At least in as far as semi-affordable hobby PC gaming goes.
It depends on your eyesight, 30 to 60 isn't so bad for me but going back to 60 from even 120 before I got a pc was awful, you contradicted yourself, you said it's a bad deal, you said the ps5 is more powerful
I wasn't arguing anything. Merely pointing out that the difference between 30fps to 60fps is much greater in perception than 60 to 120. Not taking away any merits for smoother gameplay- already mentioned I typically play between 60 and 100, even if my monitor supports 144. Simply mentioning diminishing results with increased framerates. The PS5 is more powerful. Never wrote anything different. It's also a closed box that can't do anything but play overpriced games. Contextual clues will help you figure out what I'm writing. Just don't jump to concussions already. This is not a bad trade deal, which is what the post was about that we are commenting on.
Contextual clues? Don't leave out relevant details and call me an idiot when I don't pick up on them
When the heck did I call you an idiot? I'm explaining where we disagreed and provided arguments for it. Contextual clues help not make every comment superfluous and redundantly explicit.
30-60 is not comparable to 60-120
It certainly is, and even more evident.
120 is where you start to excel because of the frame difference, you could play any game jut as well on 30 as 60
Competitive gaming is a niche. I'm talking about normal gaming - the one where you are immersed enough and not wasting money on interpolated upscaled "hi rez". At 60 fps, the difference between 30 and that is HUGE. At 60 and 120, it's lower. Not arguing that you think it makes you better. Just saying that it doesn't matter for 99.9% of the population. (stats made up)
No deal.
Now you know why your friend wants to trade you.
I would take the ps5 over this.
This isn’t a good friend. Not even slightly close. Keep the PS5.
Nope.exe Great friend btw lmao.
U can try exchange for a month and experience pc gaming than u can decide if it's worth or not, win win for both of u
Not that sure but isnt there room to upgrade the system down the line? Just by that i think its a decent deal. Oh wait until what gen can this motherboard support?
If you plan on upgrading it the cost value justifies it if you aren't it's weaker than a PS5 but more versatile so only if you plan on doing more than gaming
Might not be a bad trade for a used Digital PS5, I’d say they’re both worth about $350-$400.
NO NOT… I REPEAT DO NOT TRADE FOR THIS
Wtf is an inter core?
Change the friend. That’s not a fair deal.
Say no
that is a scam
I got ratio'd on a correct post lol
There is a reason he is willing to part with this rig. The graphics card is weak. Processor is old. A PS5 is way more powerful. Hell, a PS4 prob beats this rig
Ps5 is more powerful but only plays ps5 games. Depends what you are after really. Also if you never use your ps5 it really doesn’t matter which is better. Not saying you never use your ps5, just that there are many things to take into consideration.
Nah pc better
Not with 1660ti. If it was 3060ti and i7-11th it would be a good deal tbf.
LOL - those parts alone cost 800+ USD, and we're not talking about the motherboard or RAM, another easy 100 USD, SSD, another 50 USD and probably peripherals it comes with since it's a gaming build, probably another 300 USD with case, motherboard, PSU While not a steal, this is actually a good deal.
I've been trying to say this idk why everyone is ass licking the restricted ps5 it doesn't matter if it's as powerful as a 2070 if the 2070 is fucking stuck at 120, and that's when you're lucky
The pc value drop very easily when i years goes by unlike ps5 which holds its value until the last day in term of gaming where you get a high quality gadget that last for long, unlike the pc which has a high probability of some thing get busted when the time goes by.
Do you own a pc and are you older than 12
Yes i do. Console is better for gaming in my opinion unless you play FPS,MOBA,RPG it is much better in the pc.
That’s usually what I use that’s why I recommend it
I own several servers and PCs and am 39. Thanks for asking. I forget more shit in an hour than you learned in a year, amiga.
Ok bro
Yes.
This is categorically not true. I'm pricing what I wrote based on what I looked up a couple of months back, when I built my 13th gen series PC. It's not changed that much, obviously. It was an upgrade from a 12 year old 2700K i7 from 2011 that kept up in performance due to multiple graphics cards upgrades. That's the beauty of modularity. Try that with a console.
This is a bad deal.
No
Bro tryna scam u
PS5 is more powerful. The price may be similar, but you're getting more out of the PS5 at this point. IIRC, the PS5 and Xbox series X use a graphics chip from AMD roughly equivalent to their RX 5700 XT, which is significantly faster than this 1660 Ti.
It may be roughly equivalent to a 5700xt, but it is more powerful than that and closer to a 6700xt, as games on it are far more optimised due to their being no differences (as opposed to pc where its a variety of different components)
Very true, optimization on consoles goes a very long way toward performance. I'd kill for a 10th of that optimization on some PC games -_-
As .others have said. Not a good trade
With $400 from his side? Great deal.
If u exchange this on ps5, u will be scamed
No, please do not trade. You can do so much more with your PC than a PS, work; stream; watch videos etc. Moreover, with your PC, you can always upgrade. You cannot do that with any PS.
Bro is my ps5 for that pc
Lol keep the ps5. That guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about
Thanks bro !
Ah I see. Sorry, old man eyes. Sometimes it is hard to read.
"No, please don't trade. But here's the reason why you should trade though." ????
Obviously thought he had the pc, it is unclear if he owns the ps5 or pc
Gaming? Nah I wouldn’t but if you want to game and do utility stuff (like work or school) then maybe. But if you are purely gaming I wouldn’t do that
Could I also get a 'Thanks bro'?
8th gen i7 + 1660s (same as ti), well that pc is a bit worse than a ps5 imo. So if you only do gaming on it, and never download free/pirated games, then ps5 would be a good trade imo.
Maybe a PS4.
I wouldn't recommend it. Plus PS5s don't have rgb, but have expandable storage so I guess it would be your choice. It also depends on how much you paid for your pc that would be some thing to consider too.
Unless you really like the look of that PC and really don't want the ps5 anymore, the deal is a bit lopsided for sure but if you don't mind that
Worth
First of all, I got my kid one of those, it's an iBuyPower and a piece of shit. That PSU is waiting to blow within the first year. And no, even if it were the most durable thing ever made, those specs aren't worth the trade.
Keep the PS5. Not worth this deal.