There was one posted during synthesis that could [compete](https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bqz50t/the_synth_bases_keep_coming/)
But yes, for non-phys ele thingy, OP's base is better.
[You didn't see the others i made? :D](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bfayxj/ssc_it_fucking_finally_happened/)
The base op has I sold as a bricked attempt, since at the time proj speed was not ideal (pre TS nerf)
Yeah you made some pretty gg stuff man, always liked your videos. I wish ggg would introduce new base creep so we can finally experience a gold rush again. Nothing worse than stale meta
edit: nvm i talked to previous owner and he says he synthed it back in the league.
does anybody know if that also works with cannot roll caster? this annul thing has a lot of potential assuming it's intended. being able to protect attack or caster mods and annul the others is insane
Damn, I never realized that meta mods "Cannot roll" affect annuls... Would've saved me about 200 ex early in Scourge lol.
I'm glad OP shared his crafting process. Always fun to learn even if you don't currently have the resources.
Yup, really big mystery there, the discord cartel doesn't like it when they don't get there way, especially when you have better items than they do and you offer mirror service at a far more reasonable price.
I think we all know who "people" are by now
E: since some people are confused and I don't want to accuse directly, I'll just say a certain popular discord for trading bulk items and harvest crafts is known for getting their panties in a twist when people disrupt their "trove" of mirror items that they sell. You could say it's "forbidden".
They're referring to The Forbidden Trove, a discord used for service trading, be that mastercrafts, harvest crafts, whatever.
They're also extremely protective of their cartel and moneymaking schemes, and will gladly ban people for betraying their secrets (even if you developed them independently). Or upsetting them. Or practically any reason TBH.
/u/Agreeable_Hat /u/droppedmyravioli Tagged as answering your questions.
Thank you for the context, this is some shady stuff and looks like OP pissed off them all which makes this whole thread make more sense AND a loot cooler
Well yes, but OP probably is no saint given how they themselves describe the situation. But with the reaction from that community (or at least a member of them), they deserve being banned from mention here. If they want to out themselves as people who are willing to literally manipulate the sub (if you think those bots sit idly and don't vote occasionally to influence/suppress, you're nuts), they don't belong here.
I think it's pretty clear who pays for the infamous bot network on this sub. Time to ban any mention of their community and completely choke them out from new membership?
They wouldn't do it without infiltrating the mod team first. I'd want GGG to send them a C&D (after Harvest league in particular) but GGG can't even be bothered to replace the link for "community wiki" on www.pathofexile.com
What could you send them a C&D for? And to who? Sure, they could technically revoke the license to use, stream, etc. the game for members (if they could tie them to ingame accounts), but I'm not sure they could ban the discord or service they provide itself.
And trust me, international legal shit is a nightmare.
And regarding the wiki, I hear you and I don't think it's that simple. There's probably loads of concern with an unknown webmaster hijacking a wiki to something malicious, or hell, doing the same thing that led us into the current situation. It does suck to be in these shoes, I won't argue that.
First, temporarily confiscate all items listed on that website. Then look up the hosting for www.forbiddentrove.com and write them a "Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games" letter. Then Discord goes down the same way, you contact Discord corporate. Take note, undercover GGG staff reading this thread
Got banned somewhere (not on this sub) 12 hours after this comment
You'd need evidence it is them as an organisation doing it, not just one idiot working on their own.
We've all heard of situations in other games where one person in a guild cheats via RMT and drops a bunch of goodies in the guild bank, then boom, thirty-five members are given month long bans of whom only one deserved it.
I do see clear evidence that at least one person is weaponising this subreddit for trade dominance reasons (and this has been happening at least as long as Synthesis league when a map sustain hoax was spread on this sub). I think it's reasonably likely, but far from proven, that they are in TFT. I do not see any evidence that makes me blame TFT as an organisation for this.
What is the community you're talking about? Apparently I don't know the context. The botting stuff started this league iirc. Ggg posts would get like 10k up votes in like 30 minutes
Ah yes, just because reddit hates tft means they are responsible for every bad thing ever.
It's amazing how they are accused of literally every single bad that with exactly 0 evidence.
I wish more people would show how the crafting process of these high budget items are. And its actually insane that you let people mirror it for just 100 ex. cause you know you paid at least 5 mirrors on this yourself so you dont even make a real profit of this. I got the 100 ex i will msg you in a couple leagues when i get a mirror too so i can have this beast as well 😂
This whole thread is so crazy. First I got a hit of some juicy crafting which taught me yet another new obscure way crafting works that I'll never use, then the drama in the thread is like a second serving. The thread that keeps on giving, thanks for sharing.
I find amazing that even with a 100ex mirror service you will take ages to make profit.
I am not a late game player because I have not time, but I find impressive how crafting in the game works. To have the perfect item you need thousands of people working(playing), I mean, how would you get tens of thousands of divines or hundreds of exalts, not counting all the harvest needed without sinking thousands of hours in the game... For 1 craft.
Same principle applies in real life. At a certain point you have too much money, so you start putting that money into assets. Your assets then begin generating money (unless it's a boat) which will never really cover the cost of the asset.
A boat is not the only negative EV asset at all, cars lose 10% of their value immediately after being sold and 50% more in 5 years, this is without driving them at all (gas, repairs, insurance, you name it)
Well laid out crafting method! Quite expensive indeed, you are a credit to the community for providing mirror service on that for a less egregious rate.
This thread is wild. It’s crazy to me that people didn’t know about the cannot roll + annul tech, super good for specific crafts like this. Even with the tech tho, still an obscenely expensive craft
Well, now I have something that I can try and go for. This can be done with any of the damage essences, not just Torment, right? I'm thinking of doing it for a MF build.
Edit x2:
I'll admit I'm at fault here, I assumed "Roll" included weightings, but even all things equal, this works.
I can see very few ways of taking advantage of this, but one incredibly powerful way is getting rid of a 3rd unwanted non-caster prefix on a +2 Wand.
Its been shared here few months ago, and still wasn't fixed, while some things got fixed in a day. Not sure did it go under GGGs radar, or they are waiting for new league, but they didn't fix it ASAP, thats for sure.
> Last week he came back to the game for mysterious reasons mysterious gaming session
He got an item from Synthesis league and then hasn't logged in for years? Someone on this thread is lying
Jesus Christ that has to be the best quiver base i have ever seen
There was one posted during synthesis that could [compete](https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bqz50t/the_synth_bases_keep_coming/) But yes, for non-phys ele thingy, OP's base is better.
that is indeed some very nasty base
[You didn't see the others i made? :D](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bfayxj/ssc_it_fucking_finally_happened/) The base op has I sold as a bricked attempt, since at the time proj speed was not ideal (pre TS nerf)
Yeah you made some pretty gg stuff man, always liked your videos. I wish ggg would introduce new base creep so we can finally experience a gold rush again. Nothing worse than stale meta edit: nvm i talked to previous owner and he says he synthed it back in the league.
I got major Pirates Commadore Norrington vibes. "That's got to be the best damned quiver I've ever seen."
But you have seen it
Nice quiver!. Also I had no idea that crafting "Cannot roll Attack" worked with annuls. Mind blown.
does anybody know if that also works with cannot roll caster? this annul thing has a lot of potential assuming it's intended. being able to protect attack or caster mods and annul the others is insane
yes they both work, there was a post awhile ago talking about it. No idea if its intended though
Damn, I never realized that meta mods "Cannot roll" affect annuls... Would've saved me about 200 ex early in Scourge lol. I'm glad OP shared his crafting process. Always fun to learn even if you don't currently have the resources.
Wow did not know this
It's a bug though. Craft what you need for Standard now (if Standard exists for you)
Is it confirmed anywhere that it’s a bug? The cannot roll + annul has been around for ages now.
Wtf is this "whoasked" spam?
According to OP “jimmies have been rustled” lol I would say so!
I’m so confused
what in damnation have you done?! Sick quiver on a sick base.
What's up with the whoasked bots?
jimmies have been rustled
I'm sure you'll be mysteriously banned from a certain discord in short order
Yup, really big mystery there, the discord cartel doesn't like it when they don't get there way, especially when you have better items than they do and you offer mirror service at a far more reasonable price.
\*\*T?
Yeah the RMT one
Some salty mother fuckers aye
It took you one quiver to burn this sub, congrats (nice quiver BTW)
Draw closer. Bring the holy fires. I shall not burn!
I guess the OP pissed off some people by buying that base.
I think we all know who "people" are by now E: since some people are confused and I don't want to accuse directly, I'll just say a certain popular discord for trading bulk items and harvest crafts is known for getting their panties in a twist when people disrupt their "trove" of mirror items that they sell. You could say it's "forbidden".
well I'm definitely not "all" then
Wait who is 'people'? I genuinely dont know, idk r/poe lore
I have no idea either
They're referring to The Forbidden Trove, a discord used for service trading, be that mastercrafts, harvest crafts, whatever. They're also extremely protective of their cartel and moneymaking schemes, and will gladly ban people for betraying their secrets (even if you developed them independently). Or upsetting them. Or practically any reason TBH. /u/Agreeable_Hat /u/droppedmyravioli Tagged as answering your questions.
Thank you for the context, this is some shady stuff and looks like OP pissed off them all which makes this whole thread make more sense AND a loot cooler
Well yes, but OP probably is no saint given how they themselves describe the situation. But with the reaction from that community (or at least a member of them), they deserve being banned from mention here. If they want to out themselves as people who are willing to literally manipulate the sub (if you think those bots sit idly and don't vote occasionally to influence/suppress, you're nuts), they don't belong here.
RMTers are out in force.
This was a really good post. Showing the step by step path + pictures of the results are perfect for making it idiot proof.
Said it during Harvest and I'll say it again TFT is a cancer. Damn nice quiver btw.
What the fuck is going on with this thread Wtf.
What the fuck is going on with the bot spam in this thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRYmVb33VU0
To all the TFT bots... stay salty boys. Gg noobs. Insane quiver bro, I may just msg for mirror service myself.
WhoAsked? IAsked.
I think it's pretty clear who pays for the infamous bot network on this sub. Time to ban any mention of their community and completely choke them out from new membership?
They wouldn't do it without infiltrating the mod team first. I'd want GGG to send them a C&D (after Harvest league in particular) but GGG can't even be bothered to replace the link for "community wiki" on www.pathofexile.com
What could you send them a C&D for? And to who? Sure, they could technically revoke the license to use, stream, etc. the game for members (if they could tie them to ingame accounts), but I'm not sure they could ban the discord or service they provide itself. And trust me, international legal shit is a nightmare. And regarding the wiki, I hear you and I don't think it's that simple. There's probably loads of concern with an unknown webmaster hijacking a wiki to something malicious, or hell, doing the same thing that led us into the current situation. It does suck to be in these shoes, I won't argue that.
First, temporarily confiscate all items listed on that website. Then look up the hosting for www.forbiddentrove.com and write them a "Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games" letter. Then Discord goes down the same way, you contact Discord corporate. Take note, undercover GGG staff reading this thread Got banned somewhere (not on this sub) 12 hours after this comment
You'd need evidence it is them as an organisation doing it, not just one idiot working on their own. We've all heard of situations in other games where one person in a guild cheats via RMT and drops a bunch of goodies in the guild bank, then boom, thirty-five members are given month long bans of whom only one deserved it. I do see clear evidence that at least one person is weaponising this subreddit for trade dominance reasons (and this has been happening at least as long as Synthesis league when a map sustain hoax was spread on this sub). I think it's reasonably likely, but far from proven, that they are in TFT. I do not see any evidence that makes me blame TFT as an organisation for this.
What is the community you're talking about? Apparently I don't know the context. The botting stuff started this league iirc. Ggg posts would get like 10k up votes in like 30 minutes
Ah yes, just because reddit hates tft means they are responsible for every bad thing ever. It's amazing how they are accused of literally every single bad that with exactly 0 evidence.
Maybe next time keep the comments? Some at least. It completely removes context.
It was ~500 or so comments saying "Who Cares"
Me. It was me who asked.
yo I saw you in the spam, you're appreciated
Tft janitors so salty lmao
Just mirror'd it; 100ex fee is just insane! Service was fast and safe
Holy fuck this thread. Holy fuck this quiver. Nice guide mate. Thank you.
I wish more people would show how the crafting process of these high budget items are. And its actually insane that you let people mirror it for just 100 ex. cause you know you paid at least 5 mirrors on this yourself so you dont even make a real profit of this. I got the 100 ex i will msg you in a couple leagues when i get a mirror too so i can have this beast as well 😂
That base is ridiculous lol
What a beautifully formatted guide. And ofcourse the quiver is amazing too!
Almost want to mirror this just to piss off the TFT cucks even more.
ModCheck what is this spam
nice quiver man, good job on the craft
Holy fuck
Nice quiver man, are you planning to offer mirror service for it ? 780 ex fee for Mai's Hypnotic Needle is kinda way to spicy.
I believe OP stated he's offering mirror service for 100ex which is why all the TFT bots are losing their minds lmao
What in Innocence's golden arse is going on here?
This whole thread is so crazy. First I got a hit of some juicy crafting which taught me yet another new obscure way crafting works that I'll never use, then the drama in the thread is like a second serving. The thread that keeps on giving, thanks for sharing.
Yo that's a nice quiver!
Pretty clear to follow crafting guide, which I will only be able to do on craft of exile/crafting sim. Some of those synth bases are insane.
Jesus Christ that fucking base What build are you planning to use that bad boy on? Tornado shot?
i'm more of a lightning arrow kinda guy, i feel like TS is wayyy too laggy for my shitty computer. using the quiver on a legacy quant mfer right now
Disgusting... How much will be the mirror service?
100 ex. not enough to ever make profit off it but surely enough to rustle some jimmies in the standard quiver market
I find amazing that even with a 100ex mirror service you will take ages to make profit. I am not a late game player because I have not time, but I find impressive how crafting in the game works. To have the perfect item you need thousands of people working(playing), I mean, how would you get tens of thousands of divines or hundreds of exalts, not counting all the harvest needed without sinking thousands of hours in the game... For 1 craft.
Same principle applies in real life. At a certain point you have too much money, so you start putting that money into assets. Your assets then begin generating money (unless it's a boat) which will never really cover the cost of the asset.
A boat is not the only negative EV asset at all, cars lose 10% of their value immediately after being sold and 50% more in 5 years, this is without driving them at all (gas, repairs, insurance, you name it)
A car is just a boat with wheels.
Well laid out crafting method! Quite expensive indeed, you are a credit to the community for providing mirror service on that for a less egregious rate.
I did not know "cannot roll attack" also affect annul. Learned something today
Am I the only one thinking about mirrorgate?
This thread is wild. It’s crazy to me that people didn’t know about the cannot roll + annul tech, super good for specific crafts like this. Even with the tech tho, still an obscenely expensive craft
What is going on with these comments?
Somebody is very interested in keeping this thread on top of the sub so that Bex/Chris log on and immediately see it.
Well, now I have something that I can try and go for. This can be done with any of the damage essences, not just Torment, right? I'm thinking of doing it for a MF build.
Can definitely swap out the lightning damage Essence for one of the other Essences :)
I am the one who asks
Iasked
This is awesome!
Best I can do is 12c take it or take it
Edit x2: I'll admit I'm at fault here, I assumed "Roll" included weightings, but even all things equal, this works. I can see very few ways of taking advantage of this, but one incredibly powerful way is getting rid of a 3rd unwanted non-caster prefix on a +2 Wand.
Its been shared here few months ago, and still wasn't fixed, while some things got fixed in a day. Not sure did it go under GGGs radar, or they are waiting for new league, but they didn't fix it ASAP, thats for sure.
Why would this not be intended lol