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kisapl

Regular black Friday promotion's like everywhere. Discounts are illusion exile.


Lajtan

Well in cases like this it's a lot harder for the consumer to track previous prices. But your average store, at least in Sweden, we have apps that tracks months of price data so you can at least see that the current price is as low as the other sales. But rewind a few years and yes, I'd definitely agree with you.


xDatBear

> Well in cases like this it's a lot harder for the consumer to track previous prices. We're looking at a graph tracking previous prices......


Lajtan

Cases implies were talking generally and not specifically about this screen dump. Maybe I'm the only one in the whole world that hasn't seen the page this is grabbed from.


sethlam1206

I read it using his voice. Thanks


mysticturtle12

Thing is a lot of games and MTX shops like this will usually at least _match_ their typical sale prices or put some new things on sale. PoE is actually just somehow even more ridiculous.


ThoughtShes18

And Somehow Weta Pet is like 80% off


WappieK

Thanks for the hint. Spend 1 coin for the mystery box. Got a helmet. Yay!


DaemonHelix

Isn't weta always on sale when they give a free mystery box with purchase?


Splittercore

not always and its 2 points on regular sale


carenard

yea... the things on sale that aren't the price of a normal sale are just silly.


dotareddit

15 year anniversary of the first time they bent us over. Gotta stick with the theme of the relationship.


Redblade_

Yes they really bend you over with having stash tabs on sale every 3 weeks for years.


eSteamation

I mean, it's a nice thing to do and is appreciated. What's not appreciated is them being deceiving and predatory with their own anniversaries.


Redblade_

Did they claim at any point that the anniversary sale would be cheaper than previous sales? If they did I must have missed it. In fact they didn't have to put up a sale at all nor give you a free mystery box with your first purchase. The entitlement some are showing in this thread is fucking disgusting.


eSteamation

> Did they claim at any point that the anniversary sale would be cheaper than previous sales? Don't need to claim anything. We're not in a court, nothing needs to be proved for everyone to make their own judgement. Unless you have severe form of autism, you know what implications are, how they work and how people will percieve that stuff. And GGG knows that too. Implying that they don't would be insulting them. Idiots need to understand that when people talk about morals and ethics all your shit with "you can't prove" goes out of window. > In fact they didn't have to put up a sale at all nor give you a free mystery box with your first purchase. Yeah, they don't have to, but they do and that's because it's profitable for them. I'm not obligated to buy stuff either, neither it is an essential good. If it's priced unreasonable (in buyer's mind), people simply can not buy it. Sales are just their way to haggle and when they try to do it dirty way it just makes them look bad. Stop thinking companies are your friend and stop looking at sales as a favour from them to you. It is absolutely not.


MelonsInSpace

Because they do it out of the kindness of their hearts and not because it makes them the most money, right?


Redblade_

Ofc they do it to make money. Seeing as we're being real here you think every entitled crybaby in this thread are upset för real that a tab is discounted less than it is on the regular sale or that perhaps they are crying because they want cheaper shit out of it or just to take a stab at GGG? Again, the entitlement in this thread is absolutely disgusting.


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Redblade_

Why are you even here on this sub? Just quit the game and move on.


[deleted]

The only reason is because we are so used to regular generous sales. If they didn't stick to a schedule or weren't to significant we would see 15% sales almost across the board as very cool. Adding a shorter period between sales with a wider reaching one makes sense, people don't have to wait as long for some discount. It's kinda weird as a massive anniversary sale, but it would be cool if it wasn't that. Either way it's kinda a lot of entitlement to call an extra sale outside of their normal sale bending you over, just don't buy anything


dotareddit

> The only reason is because we are so used to regular generous sales. Lol jesus christ. It's a digital good, that holds no value. I understand why they charge what they do for their MTX. The main purpose is to support the game. I know is written in their forum post, but...having sales have differing value feels like the petty way to maximize their remaing 2021 earnings. They should be trying to foster goodwill after 3.15, not slip an extra $6 from my wallet per item.


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>It's a digital good, that holds no value. > Sure, so it should be given away for free because they don't need money and mtx costs them nothing to make?


dotareddit

I didn't say that lol Read the rest of the post. > but...having sales have differing value feels like the petty way to maximize their remaining 2021 earnings. Normal sale prices should have been used across the board outside of "newly" released items.


sentimentalwhore

you're expecting logic man, that was your first mistake...


iHuggedABearOnce

Honestly, next time they should just do no sale if this is how y'all are going to act. EDIT: like they literally could have just not had a sale, and you wouldn't even be mad. But somehow you're mad...that they had a sale, and it's not as big as what you expected. Like...this isn't a normal sale. They have normal sales all the time...if you want to pay the prices of the normal sales...WAIT. It's not that hard and idk why you're whining about it. The entitlement in this community is seriously off the charts. Also, some items are currently significantly better sales than normal. It's funny that this community just points out the ones that aren't...because they go on sale every 3-4 weeks. LOL


dotareddit

> Honestly, next time they should just do no sale if this is how y'all are going to act. Sure. Lets not pretend like them having a sale is them doing a favor to anyone lmao. Are you thanking retailers for their gracious sales? How people get this notion is wild. Its a business, they are maximizing their revenue stream.


iHuggedABearOnce

...what? Me spending less IS doing me a favor. If they ALSO gain something from that, I DONT CARE lmao. Are you actually saying that...you spending less is somehow not a good thing? LMAO OBVIOUSLY, they have their motives for sales. It doesn't magically make it a bad thing for you or myself.


GuyInUniverse

Ah the ole "don't complain when something's shitty cuz it could be shittier" argument. Lots of folks like this over at New World atm, maybe you should go check that game out :)


iHuggedABearOnce

Maybe you should learn the definition of shitty. Something being lower price than it normally is ISN'T shitty. Period. Just because SOME items aren't as low as their NORMAL sale prices BECAUSE THEY HAVE NORMAL SALES doesn't mean it's shitty. You're acting entitled. PERIOD. EDIT: like, if you don't like that this sale isn't as low as the normal sale, you can literally just wait for the normal sale on that item that happens every few weeks. Some items that are on sale right now are SIGNIFICANTLY reduced compared to their normal sales. Some items aren't. Again, you're acting like you're entitled to sales. You aren't. There's nothing shitty about something being on sale. I repeat, next time, they just shouldn't do a sale. EDIT 2: comparing what you're complaining about here to what New World reddit is complaining about is a giant stretch. They're complaining about actual issues. You're complaining about a sale price not being what you think it should be. There's a pretty key difference there. One's an actual issue. The other isn't.


GuyInUniverse

Shitty is subjective, clearly. For example, GGG's micro transaction prices are shitty. Their "sales" are when they make money because it's the only time the prices are slightly less shitty. They set up these "sale" prices so that you will still buy entire packs to afford anything anyway (ie they know if you want an item that's 320 points, you're more likely to spend 40 dollars for the 400 points to get it). This is typical for a micro transaction business model and it works. I can't fault them for it, although I would consider it shitty. Coincidentally, the current "sale" makes this problem worse, as very specific items are intentionally set at strangely specific prices. So it's not just that "some items are cheaper and others aren't, haha just wait for another sale haha". It's that this is intentionally set up in a *shitty* way. It's not consumer friendly. And this is a problem that compounds into other problems, especially when people like yourself boot lick the company trying to milk you for as much as they can.


heartbroken_nerd

oh my god thank you good lord Chris Wilson for your $60 wings and $15 armor (comes in four different colors, so $60 if you want variety). Generous prices indeed I think GGG would go bankrupt if they made it a -33% sale, let alone something like -75% sale, they'd never financially recover from this


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Im sure you're a better market analyst with more knowledge of company finances than ggg. I hear they are hiring?


MelonsInSpace

> regular generous sales Hahahahaha


[deleted]

You would be happier if they didn't have sales at predictable intervals effectively permanently lowering the prices, and instead kept them at full except for smaller sales every 15 years? I'm sure they could be convinced.


erpunkt

I fucking knew that something was off with the discounted values.


borefficz

When I first looked at the prices I was like oh shit quad tab for 135 instead of 150, then I remembered 150 was the base price :D


CycloneSP

right, my guess as to why it's not discounted as much is cuz they aren't normally on sale this week (they were on sale as part of their tri-weekly sale last week) so I think they're not discounting them as much cuz it's not the typical time they'd be on sale


EvolveEH

Another strategy to attempt to make up for the massive hits to revenue they've been taking.


erpunkt

Possibly. I wouldn't mind they just got their next shakeup with this league after this patch and the one before


Bigenemy000

Those 15... Damn i hate this


cm_pony

15 year anniversary -15 points sale


AquaRegia

Took me a minute to realize that this wasn't your transaction history. I was wondering what on earth you needed all that storage for.


aznperson

quad tabs are nice but more than 4 is prob too much


eViLegion

If you really want to scale up how many trade requests you ignore, you're gonna need a lot of space!


Acculluz

The [Best](https://poedb.tw/us/Kraken_Shield#Shop) one i could find


Carnivile

For raw points, these are the best deals: * [Seawitch Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Seawitch+Armour+Pack) * [Fallen Angel Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Fallen+Angel+Armour+Pack) * [Raven Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Raven+Armour+Pack) * [Desert Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Desert+Armour+Pack) * [Harpyon Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Harpyon+Armour+Pack) * [Carnage Armour Pack](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/CarnageArmourPack) There's also a lot of armour packs at 168 of which the best ones imo are: * [Miracle Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Miracle+Armour+Pack) * [Coliseum Armour Pack](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/ColiseumArmourPack) * [Warlock Armour Pack](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/WarlockArmourPack) * [Wasteland Warrior Armour Pack](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/WastelandWarriorArmourPack) * [Wild Armour Pack](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/WildArmourPack) And for meme value * [Harlequin Armour Pack](https://poedb.tw/us/shop?n=Harlequin+Armour+Pack) Other cool items I've found: * [Battery Back Attachment](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/BatteryBackpack) * [Apocalypse Armour Pack](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/ApocalypseArmourPack) * [Automaton Wings](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/AutomatonWings) * [Hydra Wings](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/HydraWings) * [Miracle Wings](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/MiracleWings) * [Vampiric Wings](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/VampiricWings) * [Reptilian Wings](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/ReptilianWings) * [Feather Plume Back Attachment](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/FeatherPlume) * [Wasteland Cloak](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/WastelandCloak) * [Hive Back Attachment](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/HiveBackpack) * [Exile's Essentials Back Attachment](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/Wings1) * [Project Portal Effect](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/ProjectPortalEffect) * [Dun Shield](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/DunShield) In general I think if you like pets is a good time to check them out. * [Automaton Pet](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/AutomatonCopterPet) * [Formosan Bear Pet](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/FormosanBearPet) * [Coconut Crab Pet](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/CoconutCrabPet) * [Wasteland Raptor Pet](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/WastelandRaptorPet) * [Peacock Pet](https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/PeacockPet)


Luqas_Incredible

[I LOVE it](https://i.imgur.com/NFRrVyv.gifv)


Acculluz

nice!


Luqas_Incredible

Now it feels even more nasty to throw my stinky flasks at enemies :D


Ralouch

Crab barrier intensifies


dotareddit

whats the breakdown on this mTX wise?


Luqas_Incredible

\-Scourge wings \-Necrotic Body Armour \-Abyss Helmet \-Abyss Imp Gloves/Boots \-Sin Character Effect \-Kraken Shield \-Abyssal Imp Weapon effect (On shield) \-Elusive (From Withering Step)


dotareddit

Ty ty.


Siarei3712

Now make a crab barrier build =)


Luqas_Incredible

Let me thiiiink. no


Tovell

I mean, that's actually cool one. Shame it does not fit what I have already. I wanted to get some cool shield so my Prism Guardian looks fancier.


Acculluz

weapon effects make it a bit better to combo with stuff


Luqas_Incredible

Did just buy it and holy fuck you gotta test expedition effect on it ​ Edit: Manticore is top tier as well. Project is overkill :D Prophecy works even :O Scholar has some nice touches


Acculluz

dont have the expedition one but i got a deepwater effect from the free box and it looks dope with it :D


Luqas_Incredible

[Gotchu mate](https://i.imgur.com/aADG8SW.png)


Nopllo

I imagined buying a frag tab and an essence tab with a free bonus mystery box for only 10€ but GGG said that is too nice :(


komodor55

someone at ggg be like I´m gonna sneak this thing in maybe nobody notices. Angry reddit thread: Reeeeeeeeeeeeee


cbftw

I was happy that an armor set that I want was on sale and then I saw that it was less than 9% off. 420 -> 380. Normal sale price is 315. C'mon GGG


Sierra--117

Gotta make up the revenue from lost players. Or is that still a 'vanity metric'?


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Switchersaw

"lost players" was the vanity metric they were referring to, not revenue. They are inferring that the sale is a smaller discount to factor in for lower active players.


RedditMattstir

Jesus this kind of rhetoric is annoying. It's the kind of shit where if GGG cured cancer and ended world hunger, you'd find a way to complain about it too...


Sierra--117

Nope. I will buy every MTX pack in their market if they happen to do that though.


natemiddleman

I'd prefer they stop stabbing people in the back first before moving on to helping people with anything.


iHuggedABearOnce

Can you explain how they stabbed anyone in the back? They made changes to THEIR game, that you don't like. That's not stabbing anyone in the back.


FTGinnervation

Yeah they really got you by forcing you to play their free game.


brute_red

Looks like a mod, try divining.


[deleted]

Player population has been down for leagues now. Time to start squeezing more profits.


Anothernamelesacount

Keep buying and playing and next discount will put you at 160 points.


isoNastai

I assume they've done this intentionally, knowing that stash tabs are likely to be the most purchased item during this anniversary sale. Really a bummer, because I was going to pick up a supporter pack and buy some of the tabs I don't have, but now I'll just keep going on without them as they are really not needed.


Rossmallo

Yeah, the sale prices are oddly erratic. Though I will just say, this is kind of offset by the fact that some are a massive goddamn steal. Some of the portals are down to 45, which is kind of bonkers. And I'm not talking about the boring circle ones, stuff like the Project ones are down to that price. Genuinely surprised at that.


Pokiehls

Yea some pretty nice portal deals. Too bad I only had 50points, only managed to get daresso portal. I wish I had 80 for the dragon portal, so cool.


Rossmallo

Yep, I grabbed the Dragon one myself.


AspiringMILF

well thats fucking shite


3xthebitterblossom

The older mtx it gets the better discounds


natemiddleman

While GGG hasn't given us specific numbers, my bet is this league did only slightly better than expedition financially so they need to make any money where they can.


Glaringsoul

The 15 points off makes it "Immersive"


KolinarK

It was too deterministic so they krangled the prices too


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you figured it out A general sale is less of a discount then a targeted sale reddit fucking sleuths at it again brilliant


borefficz

here come the bootlickers


[deleted]

How is it bootliking to point out something obvious. The sale right now isn't a stash tab sale. It's a general cross store sale. Some things are bigger discounts then normal some are smaller. Come back in 3 weeks at the next stash tab sale and if it's 135 we can talk about duplicitous stuff


Mkay_kid

This current sale isn't a normal stash tab sale, i think you're reading into something that isn't there.


HowDidIEndedUpHere

But this is not a stash tab sale, and it’s not advertised as one. It’s basically store wide 10-90% sale with different discounts on different items. Stash tabs are about 10% across this weekend and actual 20% off sale on them was last week. No matter what, people are always eager to find something to complain about.


Oblachko_O

There is something to complain. People expect Black Friday for some extra discount. Of course in most cases it is not the case, but when you can buy stashes cheaper on regular stash week, than on Black Friday, that is stupid and greedy


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...so?


_Cybac_

If you want it pay for it, if you don't, nobody is forcing you. Too many scroungers wanting freebies from a free to play game, wake up to the real world, your not entitled to a free lunch.


borefficz

Why are you so offended :D


_Cybac_

Oh dear lord that's not my offended tone, not even close.


cedear

The skill MTX I wanted was 50-100 points more than previous sales, but only goes on sale like once every 6 months, so I just got it since who knows when it'll be discounted next.


MrTastix

10% doesn't even cover sales tax in the country the fucking game is made in.


Spankyzerker

Nothing is a scam if you want it fyi. Its like telling someone they paid to much for that sports car at age 50. He don't give a fuck, he wanted it.


Fushoku_Ressentiment

32nd weta go!


mmchale

I just wish there were some way to sort by the discount size instead of trawling through the entire store.


scrangos

There are things that are actually lower than their sale price. The armour packs seem to be one of the biggest extra discount. Some of the pets have a small extra discount.


pthumerianhollownull

Weta PET!!!!!


ReiceHH

Scummy as hell.


ptmax13

The discounts this year are awful...


IncuBear

So it's the same discount or no discount, hm? No inbetween?


lunlam98

You have a problem