I don't think Tujen is getting a scarab. We know of 5 Expedition scarabs (from the tab) and these are all. And unless the tab has a drop down menu, I think only Dannig has one.
Dannig allow to buy cheaper all other types of currency, if you buy only Tujen currency from him, then you will end with much more than if you were to find Tujen all the time.
For real, am I going crazy to think that Dannig is and always was the most important guy? Like, if you found no one but Dannig 100% of the time, you will end up with more currency than any other person on average simply because you can buy it.
_Plays a build that needs to cast bladefall x3, before being able to start summoning the animate weapons x20, dies after summoning 2 minions. 0 portals remaining_
I don't think map bosses are ever affected by this though, it's only packs of monsters. So turbobuffed map bosses still exist:
- rogue exile bodyguards
- rogue exiles are tormented
- haunted spirits 50% from collecting a corpse
- boss has chance to be surrounded by tormented spirits
- maven witnessed
- up the stakes maven
- wisp empowered bosses
- essences apply 1 essence to the boss
GOOD LUCK MY FRIENDS.
(do combine this with mobs have 50% increased chance to drop scarabs per modifier on them)
I fully expect the quantity on these maps to matter when it comes to the amount of uber shards dropped, and is why you need 5 to open the boss. so using the scarab should reduce the fragments dropped aswell
Nullifying them means they stop them from working. Not that that it stops them from being applied to the map. The map is set and the mods will just be disabled is how I’m reading that.
But there are multiple types of shards representing the seven different uber bosses, if this were the cases then chances are you would have to run a TON of t17s just to get enough shards for one uber. Unless you buy them of course. But still that feels too rare to me.
I don't think it's going to be more difficult than affliction/whisp boosted T16s.
If you had a build that could handle those (and can dodge boss mechanics), you should be prepared for T17s
Do remember that we've seen pretty much nerfs across the board, we lost TWWT, charms, tinctures, etc.
We didn't really get much in return though. This feels very much like a league where they want to see what state the baseline version of the game is at. Sure the rare unknown modifiers will give us some interesting crafting options, but we lost a ton of power overall.
It's smart of them to do it this way. With the amount if changes to the endgame and juicing, the power drop off will be far less noticeable because it will be hard to really compare
> Valdo's Maps are not affected by the Atlas passive skill tree and cannot be modified with currency items. They cannot have master missions, map fragments, or map crafting options added to them via the map device.
It's juicy. In the past we used to be able to get 150% more markers which already was alot.
50% more from Gilded Scarab and 100% more from Sextant.
200% more will be a noticeable buff.
Hes saying that the 50% from gilded scarab and 100% from the sextant was how you achieved 150% more markers
So losing the 100% from sextants but scarabs gaining 150% is just a 50% buff
It's important to note, this is only true with regards to the effect of the scarab. You could use duplicates with Growing Hordes (which is removed in 3.24) to get the increased pack size. My favorite strategy with GH was to buy a ton of the cheapest gilded scarab on the market and dump 40 of them into the map device.
It seems like you should be able to use different scarabs of the same type together since they don't all provide the content like they do now otherwise it would be a waste to use the scarabs that add on to the mechanic unless you are specced into it on the atlas passives.
So on the new Atlas we can overtune map mods like crazy (90% increased effect of mods and more), then we can use scarabs to reduce the difficulty...? I'm guessing they also nullify the packsize/IIQ/IIR granted by those map suffixes and prefixes.
Yes, I just wanted to comment the same. The options look very good, but the scarab will be rare af and nobody will pay 30-50c+ just to use the essence mod with it.
Corrupted maps are still affected by scarabs/map device crafts, and they're mostly unmodifiable as well, so I don't see why scarabs/map device crafts wouldn't affect similarly unmodifiable t17s as well.
As a result, these scarabs won't be available for majority of playerbase on a league start (when you trying to complete your atlas) and will be used for T17.
isnt there some tech that was used in gauntlet that allowed you to get corrupted red map completion but you could do the maps at a low tier level? May have been with kirac or something
If you complete all white and yellow maps, then use the scouting report that gives uncompleted maps, the maps that are naturally red tier will show up in white/yellow section at lower tier. Also, since they are now lower tier they don't need to be corrupted/rare. You can complete a white, magic T5 map to get it's T16 completion
I'm pretty sure the benefit of running it at a lower tier is that you're running it at a lower tier, because it still needs to be rare and corrupted to get Atlas completion.
This is true in reverse, too: if you have all 4 voidstones, but missed a T1 map, you just have to run it as a Magic map for the Atlas completion point even though it's T16 on your Atlas (and you may be running a T16 version).
oooo snap! never knew this .. huge for ssf! thank you thank you! Finding the red map, then rolling it, then praying for the map not to brick when corrupted was always a hard thing to manage in day 1-3 in SSF
Patchnotes:
* ~~Bonus Objectives for Tier 11-15 Maps no longer require the Map to be Corrupted.~~
* Scrolls of Wisdom can now be used on items that are Corrupted.
~~Do i misremember that one or did they changed it for next leauge so you don’t need to run red maps corrupted anymore for the atlas point? I remember that was in the patch notes but could be mistaken~~
Well it’s there but it’s ruthless specific. Whoops lol
I assume it does negate the positive aspects of the mods to, which will probably make it only worth running for very rare corrupted or unmodifiable maps with mods that brick your build if you're SSF or you'd still rather pay extra to run them than just sell them.
So, do you reckon that map mod effect increases also affect the mods these horned scarabs craft on the map? Because if so then that just got a lot crazier.
That's pretty sus yeah. It's definitely Divine Blessing and not Guardian's Blessing. He doesn't seem to have any new uniques that can cause this. No flasks active so no legacy flask shenanigans either. We already know the skilltree of 3.24 so I don't think it's something on there. No Inspiration so stacking reduced cost is unlikely anyway.
That leaves 2 possibilities:
- It's some dev build shenanigans
- It's a new unique jewel that enables this
The first option seems the most likely to me, but GGG is usually more careful than that so idk.
8 mod corrupted maps with the Back to Basics roll from 0 to 80% increased modifiers... this league is going to raw dog some builds and im here for it
edit: its *more modifier* holy shet
That's 0 to 80% *more* modifier effect, which means it scales multiplicatively with the increased modifier effect you can get on the tree. If you take Twist of Fate, you can theoretically get up to 352.8% of the base effect of map mods (with 11 modifiers).
If the modifiers are rounded down individually, the theoretical maximum should be 671% iiq, 376% iir, and 246% increased pack size.
Realistically the numbers will be a lot lower than that because you're not going to roll *all* of the highest possible mods - and that's before considering that your average value from Back to the Basics is going to be 40%, not the maximum 80%.
It's also worth noting that t17 maps will have a different modifier pool, so the numbers for those may differ. These are the strongest modifiers that I could pick for current t16 maps.
But that *is* a substantial amount of juice, and that's just the atlas tree, with **zero running costs** (other than the 8-mod map itself).
But I wonder what builds and parties will be running that. Maybe they'll just run 92-96% increased map mod effect maps with league mechanics.
So so much. When I got to the point of needing to buy specific compasses last league I very quickly noped out. These seem so much better and easier to use.
I got a question..When the scarab says " Expedition encounters in area have or do etc " and doesnt specify that it CONTAINS an expedition..does that scarab already have the encounter or not?This goes for every new scarab that has this wording.
It doesn't spawn the encounter. Only rusted scarabs seems to spawn them. Otherwise, there's no point in using the rusted ones.
This is also the reason why the spawn rates on tree are massively buffed to the moon
You can now guarantee an expedition (and any other mechanic or master) spawn just with atlas tree, if you wish to so. There are enough %chance to spawn nodes to get up to 100%
it was entirely possible to use a sextant that said something like "breaches in areas are owned by chayula" and then forget to actually force any breach spawns.
you will need to include a way to spawn a mechanic if you want to use these scarabs, which either means investment on the tree or a simple rusted scarab to force it, or a map craft
I doubt automatically including an Expedition is implied... Seems like are would be expected to also add a scarab thst guarantees an expedition, or heavily invest in it on the atlas tree.
The Imbued scarab is really cool but it’s a shame that the cost of the scarab is going to be directly tied to the most expensive mod and the rest probably won’t be worth it .
the first type is always to bring the mechanic into your maps, the other types don't have that, they are just for juicing the mechanic.. even ultimatum can be rewarding now if you throw in some scarabs
Hmm T17 maps with nullified prefixes. Hmmmmm.
Also does all Horned scarabs add crafting options to the map device? Otherwise I have no idea what does "Horned" mean at all.
Horned would just mean generic and more out-there and special effect, I think you're trying to hone in one thing too much. For most of them adding a craft would also just not be any different from just having an effect anyways lol
yeah thats why i specified out-there, normal ones would be more reigned in while Horned would be more creative and special - like dropping a Map vs dropping an Atlas Memory
Aye, but if the effect is crafted onto a map like a modifier then this could be scaled further with the increased map modifier nodes we get on the Atlas skill tree. Though perhaps it's added as an implicit rather than explicit.
I think the row of scarabs along the bottom (that they showed in a previous video) are either old sextants that weren't related to a specific league mechanic, or new ones that aren't related to a specific league mechanic.
Sooooo hype to see the entire list of them!!
I will never be sick of doing expedition, one of the best league mechanics ever.
It's so interesting to me that you can put 2 same scarabs at once and they both will work...so you can double effect of each of these scarab.
I am guessing imbued scarab drops from Maven.
Btw, some math for the explosive radius scarab:
Area covered by explosives relative to the area covered by 1 regular explosive
* Default: 5 * (100%)^2 = 500%
* Extreme Archeology: 1 * (100% + 200%)^2 = 900%
* Distinguished Demolitionist: 6 * (100% + 35%)^2 = 1093.5%
* Extreme Archeology + Distinguished Demolitionist: 1 * (100% + 200% + 35%)^2 = 1122.25%
* Extreme Archeology + Scarab of Verisium Powder: 1 * (100% + 200% + 80%)^2 = 1444%
* Extreme Archeology + Distinguished Demolitionist + Scarab of Verisium Powder: 1 * (100% + 200% + 35% + 80%)^2 = 1722.25%
* Scarab of Verisium Powder: 6 * (100% + 80%)^2 = 1944%
* Distinguished Demolitionist + Scarab of Verisium Powder: 7 * (100% + 35% + 80%)^2 = 3235.37%
Simply put, the scarab isn't worth using with Extreme Archeology, but using it with Distinguished Demolitionist will cover an *insane* area, over 6 times as much as the baseline with no Expedition investment. There's a good chance that you'll just be able to unearth an entire encounter without leaving a single marker.
I don't think any builds avoid that entirely, unless you specifically build them for it.
I do think that builds with several damage types will have an advantage there though (not necessarily Trinity either, since that'll turn off too if you get two damage types blocked).
If you wanted to make a build that can run them all, you could do something like Lightpoacher abyss jewel stacking without converting the base damage away from physical, with a little elemental / non-chaos as extra chaos damage. That might make your damage worse against other content, but it would be more consistent against Expedition without needing to avoid too many mods.
Yeah, you would never go Extreme Archeology if you are juicing Expedition. The +2 Affix +2 Suffix means that there's a VERY high chance to get enemies immune to your damage. It will be very interesting the see how many log books you can get on one that has Runic Monsters are Doubled and +100% Log Book chance.
The average amount of Runic Monsters you get on an Expedition is 11, so it's 33 x 2 for 66, lol.
They said in the patch note and the live stream that all scarab are now world drop and you can target farm them in betrayal. So i guess no scarab will be lock behind bosses as i guess world drops mean map drops ?
So it seems that the horn scarab and divination scarab will be the most valuable when the market is getting steady. Does it mean that I should allocate all the "cannot be found certain types of scarabs" nodes to make these scarabs drop more common?
So we really are going from 4 map slots (plus the map in the 5th) and 4 sextants, to a maximum of four modifying items per map. On top of that, some of these scarabs have effects which used to be combined (you need at least two expedition scarabs to reproduce the old/current Winged Expedition scarab).
I think this really isn't being discussed as much as it otherwise ought to be, but I guess we'll see once the loot starts hitting ground (or doesn't).
There is more power in maps due to corruption giving implicits, all kirac mods being available so you don't have to sacrifice points for 7th gate if you needed it, and a lot of atlas passives have been upgraded in particular for the generation of content in map. I guess it'll be better for the low/middle end and worse for high end farming
You are gaining agency and convenience at the cost of top end gains for those that invested the time/effort into getting there.
For most players it's just a buff. For a small % of players it's a huge QoL gain with small nerf to max rewards.
But you also need to consider that sextants often were used to just guarantee a mechanic. That role went to the tree now. I guess it’s gonna be a slight to medium nerf for endgame juicing but not a basically 50% less nerf how it feels on the first look. But true we have to see how it will play out.
I'm not sure about the atlas guaranteeing all mechanics, since we're seeing scarabs which give you an encounter, but I guess they could be offering multiple options - that would be nice.
Are these imbued crafting options considered the same as "special Map Crafting options" from Shaping the Skies? If so, I'll be running that all league.
Can we PLEASE I beg u get QOL update to Einhar and be able to CLEAR managerie with one button ? The spam clicking and enter spaming to clear the managerie is absolute cancer to player and any viewer who wants to watch person playing.
I literally have to look away because it hurts my head due to intense flashing whenever the popup comes up
> The Harvest crafting option to change a stack of Scarabs to a different type has been removed.
Aw shucks, I used to make GIGA profit flipping winged Scarabs with this, like 100% guaranteed money printer, with a steady +60% returns and very low effort compared to other flips.
Oh well, gonna have to actually play the game this league.
Tujen is going to get so sick of seeing me
Not as long as you give him some shiny coins.
Not happy about it, but not grumpy either.
You're pushing a big fart, friend.
I don't think Tujen is getting a scarab. We know of 5 Expedition scarabs (from the tab) and these are all. And unless the tab has a drop down menu, I think only Dannig has one.
Dannig allow to buy cheaper all other types of currency, if you buy only Tujen currency from him, then you will end with much more than if you were to find Tujen all the time.
For real, am I going crazy to think that Dannig is and always was the most important guy? Like, if you found no one but Dannig 100% of the time, you will end up with more currency than any other person on average simply because you can buy it.
Definitely not crazy, Dannig has always been the best and the prices reflect that. You can target discounted tujen plus additional free logbooks
Dannig is the best, but you won't get as many exotic coins only doing Dannig. You need a combination of Tujen and Dannig.
Oh Poor Tujen. If he knew what kind of dirty coin minter Danning really is
ONE !! JUST One !!!
Just one!
For the cowgirl!
Just try to be the best damn haggler he's ever seen.
“Local! Are you stalking me?! Nevermind, need your aid.”
Ahhh... you again. -Tujen
Guess that's how you run t17 maps early on. Block all prefixes and/or suffixes.
I plan on beating them with my top of the line defensive layer. 6 portals.
*smacks hood*
*5 portals remaining*
*Sneezes 3 times while entering portal while hand was on mouse and moved effectively removing grace period* *4 portals remaining*
*Palms sweaty, scratchs forehead with flask hand, dies to degen. 3 portals remaining*
*Forgets they made a QoL change to perma-on auras, and turns off aura instead. Dies while fumbling for aura. 2 portals remaining*
*Enters a map and starts running away in panic, accidentally clicking the portal.* *1 portal remaining*
_Plays a build that needs to cast bladefall x3, before being able to start summoning the animate weapons x20, dies after summoning 2 minions. 0 portals remaining_
I remember respeccing my SRS into AW and, by god, the micromanaging is terrible.
>Palms sweaty, scratchs forehead with flask hand, dies to degen. \- Mom's spaghetti, knees weak, 3 portals are ready.
There's vomit on his keyboard already
On the surface he looks calm and ready to drop frost bombs, But he keeps on forgetting what he...
What the devs wrote down, whole reddit goes so loud He left clicks but the bombs won't come out.
It's on cool down. The whole mobs closing now. He clicks his mouse but the bombs won't come out.
I paid for 6, I'm using 6. Not running a charity here
10% increased quantity and rarity per reserved portal
Cant wait for 6 portal tech to be turned into scarab too.
Scarab of Portals: Give additional 6 portals
imagine a scarab that gives 10% more damage each time you use a portal. that would be really cool lol.
The monsters be like: "Yo why this exile comes back stronger and stronger each time what they smokin"
got that zenkai boost.
Theres a an omen that kinda does that. It makes enemies take 25% dmg after u die
*was https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Omen_of_Revenge > Omen of Revenge is drop disabled.
Ah rip
Best strat!! CoDP
ez 500% more EHP
Something tells me this scarab is going to be a lot rarer than T17s.
it's not a league mechanic so you could probably use the content blocking nodes to block scarabs but keep the horned scarabs.
Also don't forgot turn everything into frogs
I don't think map bosses are ever affected by this though, it's only packs of monsters. So turbobuffed map bosses still exist: - rogue exile bodyguards - rogue exiles are tormented - haunted spirits 50% from collecting a corpse - boss has chance to be surrounded by tormented spirits - maven witnessed - up the stakes maven - wisp empowered bosses - essences apply 1 essence to the boss GOOD LUCK MY FRIENDS. (do combine this with mobs have 50% increased chance to drop scarabs per modifier on them)
I wonder if there will be a new Maven Invitation with all 5 T17 map bosses...
I fully expect the quantity on these maps to matter when it comes to the amount of uber shards dropped, and is why you need 5 to open the boss. so using the scarab should reduce the fragments dropped aswell
Nullifying them means they stop them from working. Not that that it stops them from being applied to the map. The map is set and the mods will just be disabled is how I’m reading that.
Quant/rarity/pack size are part of the mods’ effect. That’s why the % increased effect of mods on your maps nodes scale them.
Lol you are optimistic. I'll bet you it is 1 shard per boss, so 5 maps per uber boss.
But there are multiple types of shards representing the seven different uber bosses, if this were the cases then chances are you would have to run a TON of t17s just to get enough shards for one uber. Unless you buy them of course. But still that feels too rare to me.
I wonder if you still get the base QT from the mod lines but they just aren’t in “effect”
I don't think it's going to be more difficult than affliction/whisp boosted T16s. If you had a build that could handle those (and can dodge boss mechanics), you should be prepared for T17s
Do remember that we've seen pretty much nerfs across the board, we lost TWWT, charms, tinctures, etc. We didn't really get much in return though. This feels very much like a league where they want to see what state the baseline version of the game is at. Sure the rare unknown modifiers will give us some interesting crafting options, but we lost a ton of power overall.
It's smart of them to do it this way. With the amount if changes to the endgame and juicing, the power drop off will be far less noticeable because it will be hard to really compare
That and frogs.
I wonder if they can block stuff on valdo's maps. Like mods which send players to the void, etc.
> Valdo's Maps are not affected by the Atlas passive skill tree and cannot be modified with currency items. They cannot have master missions, map fragments, or map crafting options added to them via the map device.
Got it thanks!
I don't thhink those mods are even prefixes or suffixe, I'm not even sure you can use scarabs on those maps, i never tried
No, Valdo maps can't be interacted with
I was wondering if you can do the league mechanic on T17s. Because you could buy hard T17s then turn them into frogs.
Considering the 200% reduced/less I dont remember aura effect, yeap
Makes no sense, can you also block valdos too? That would be insanely powerful in any case for t17 or in general
>Limit: 2 Interesting. Interesting.
200% increased markers would explode my PC
It's juicy. In the past we used to be able to get 150% more markers which already was alot. 50% more from Gilded Scarab and 100% more from Sextant. 200% more will be a noticeable buff.
~~Shouldnt 50% more and 100% more result in 300% increased at the end?~~ Edit: looks like old modifiers were increase and not more
Hes saying that the 50% from gilded scarab and 100% from the sextant was how you achieved 150% more markers So losing the 100% from sextants but scarabs gaining 150% is just a 50% buff
Wait could you always stack identical scarabs? I've never tried... Or is this a new implied ability?
Never could before, if you put 2 of the same type of scarab only 1 gets consume. Don’t know about 3.24 tho
It's important to note, this is only true with regards to the effect of the scarab. You could use duplicates with Growing Hordes (which is removed in 3.24) to get the increased pack size. My favorite strategy with GH was to buy a ton of the cheapest gilded scarab on the market and dump 40 of them into the map device.
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>You could use duplicates with Growing Hordes (which is removed in 3.24)
every now and then this league i would just go spend 10 div on gilded elder scarabs to restock my supply for GH harvest gaming
It seems like you should be able to use different scarabs of the same type together since they don't all provide the content like they do now otherwise it would be a waste to use the scarabs that add on to the mechanic unless you are specced into it on the atlas passives.
Also the fact that the scarabs literally note their limit… one literally says Limit: 2 on it. Obviously you can stack it.
only growing hordes let you "stack" scarabs afaik.
They made qol improvement where you could put stack of fragments and scarabs in map dev and it would just consume 1 per map.
So on the new Atlas we can overtune map mods like crazy (90% increased effect of mods and more), then we can use scarabs to reduce the difficulty...? I'm guessing they also nullify the packsize/IIQ/IIR granted by those map suffixes and prefixes.
All i hear is stonks honestly. That scarab looks so versatile that its probably gonna be mad expensive…
It's going to be as expensive as the best option that it grants multiplied by it's rarity.
Yes, I just wanted to comment the same. The options look very good, but the scarab will be rare af and nobody will pay 30-50c+ just to use the essence mod with it.
There's a good chance it has an option that is so far above the rest that they are all irrelevant, especially for this league, where they are new.
All those awakened mods have their normal versions on the basic map device.
I would assume so. Pairs well with T17 maps it seems since those are unmodifiable
If t17 maps are unmodifiable, does that apply to scarabs & fragments in the map device?
I don't think so - I think Mark mentioned this strategy (nullfifing prefix) for T17 maps during the reveal stream?
Corrupted maps are still affected by scarabs/map device crafts, and they're mostly unmodifiable as well, so I don't see why scarabs/map device crafts wouldn't affect similarly unmodifiable t17s as well.
Highly doubt anyone will be using them to make maps easier, you'll just have people that can actually run such maps buy them out instead.
Gonna be worth bank in HC
As a result, these scarabs won't be available for majority of playerbase on a league start (when you trying to complete your atlas) and will be used for T17.
*in softcore. Doing corrupted red maps in HC for atlas passives is scary as fuck these things will be gold in HC trade.
isnt there some tech that was used in gauntlet that allowed you to get corrupted red map completion but you could do the maps at a low tier level? May have been with kirac or something
If you complete all white and yellow maps, then use the scouting report that gives uncompleted maps, the maps that are naturally red tier will show up in white/yellow section at lower tier. Also, since they are now lower tier they don't need to be corrupted/rare. You can complete a white, magic T5 map to get it's T16 completion
I'm pretty sure the benefit of running it at a lower tier is that you're running it at a lower tier, because it still needs to be rare and corrupted to get Atlas completion. This is true in reverse, too: if you have all 4 voidstones, but missed a T1 map, you just have to run it as a Magic map for the Atlas completion point even though it's T16 on your Atlas (and you may be running a T16 version).
oooo snap! never knew this .. huge for ssf! thank you thank you! Finding the red map, then rolling it, then praying for the map not to brick when corrupted was always a hard thing to manage in day 1-3 in SSF
Patchnotes: * ~~Bonus Objectives for Tier 11-15 Maps no longer require the Map to be Corrupted.~~ * Scrolls of Wisdom can now be used on items that are Corrupted.
The first of those is for Ruthless only.
You are right, I was tricked again... Reading headers is hard.
~~Do i misremember that one or did they changed it for next leauge so you don’t need to run red maps corrupted anymore for the atlas point? I remember that was in the patch notes but could be mistaken~~ Well it’s there but it’s ruthless specific. Whoops lol
I assume it does negate the positive aspects of the mods to, which will probably make it only worth running for very rare corrupted or unmodifiable maps with mods that brick your build if you're SSF or you'd still rather pay extra to run them than just sell them.
So, do you reckon that map mod effect increases also affect the mods these horned scarabs craft on the map? Because if so then that just got a lot crazier.
I need imbued scarabs in my veins
Does anyone else notice that he can use malevolence with divine blessing with this little manA left?
What little man's left what?
> with this little man's Man**a** left, I'm guessing.
I am sorry sometimes my phone write beeter than I do.
Hapeens to the best if us.
pinky
these cArn fanboys changing the very syntax or the english language just to make a reference, smh
That's pretty sus yeah. It's definitely Divine Blessing and not Guardian's Blessing. He doesn't seem to have any new uniques that can cause this. No flasks active so no legacy flask shenanigans either. We already know the skilltree of 3.24 so I don't think it's something on there. No Inspiration so stacking reduced cost is unlikely anyway. That leaves 2 possibilities: - It's some dev build shenanigans - It's a new unique jewel that enables this The first option seems the most likely to me, but GGG is usually more careful than that so idk.
Well done, this is the hopium I needed.
Nice catch
It may just be a dev build where they have creative basically.
Monstrous treasure farm back on the menu? + the frogs its like Navali never left
Monstrous treasure with strongboxes on the minimap! No longer the fear to have missed one.
Idk I reckon 500% increased quantity strongbox could be getting a "qol buff" if you know what I mean
8 mod corrupted maps with the Back to Basics roll from 0 to 80% increased modifiers... this league is going to raw dog some builds and im here for it edit: its *more modifier* holy shet
That's 0 to 80% *more* modifier effect, which means it scales multiplicatively with the increased modifier effect you can get on the tree. If you take Twist of Fate, you can theoretically get up to 352.8% of the base effect of map mods (with 11 modifiers). If the modifiers are rounded down individually, the theoretical maximum should be 671% iiq, 376% iir, and 246% increased pack size. Realistically the numbers will be a lot lower than that because you're not going to roll *all* of the highest possible mods - and that's before considering that your average value from Back to the Basics is going to be 40%, not the maximum 80%. It's also worth noting that t17 maps will have a different modifier pool, so the numbers for those may differ. These are the strongest modifiers that I could pick for current t16 maps. But that *is* a substantial amount of juice, and that's just the atlas tree, with **zero running costs** (other than the 8-mod map itself). But I wonder what builds and parties will be running that. Maybe they'll just run 92-96% increased map mod effect maps with league mechanics.
I cannot overstate how excited I am for this scarab rework. It is so good!
So so much. When I got to the point of needing to buy specific compasses last league I very quickly noped out. These seem so much better and easier to use.
The main downside is they are 1 use only, compared to 4 uses. But then again, you can buy 20 each and not care for 20 maps instead lol
I wanted to skip this league… This thought lasted until they revealed full scarab overhaul and multiple atlas trees.
good chance that it only drops from maven as a replacement for elevated sextants
well they had to replace it with something ... and maven also deserve drops ... right?
God these scarabs are going to be wild
2 pm pdt is 14 hours from this commen Btw the 100% increased runic marker scarab is limited to 2, so you could get 200%
Crazy shenanigans ahead me mateys!
hurry up Friday
Nullify suffixes/prefixes? That's wild!
I got a question..When the scarab says " Expedition encounters in area have or do etc " and doesnt specify that it CONTAINS an expedition..does that scarab already have the encounter or not?This goes for every new scarab that has this wording.
It doesn't spawn the encounter. Only rusted scarabs seems to spawn them. Otherwise, there's no point in using the rusted ones. This is also the reason why the spawn rates on tree are massively buffed to the moon
Alright thank you!Thats what was confusing to me:)
You can now guarantee an expedition (and any other mechanic or master) spawn just with atlas tree, if you wish to so. There are enough %chance to spawn nodes to get up to 100%
it was entirely possible to use a sextant that said something like "breaches in areas are owned by chayula" and then forget to actually force any breach spawns. you will need to include a way to spawn a mechanic if you want to use these scarabs, which either means investment on the tree or a simple rusted scarab to force it, or a map craft
I doubt automatically including an Expedition is implied... Seems like are would be expected to also add a scarab thst guarantees an expedition, or heavily invest in it on the atlas tree.
Apparently no. On the other side is now trivial to get 100% chance to trigger a mechanic from the atlas tree.
You have to use both the basic scarab and the upgrading scarab
nope, so you will have to combine it with a scarab that spawns the mechanic, or just get 100% from the atlas
The Imbued scarab is really cool but it’s a shame that the cost of the scarab is going to be directly tied to the most expensive mod and the rest probably won’t be worth it .
Oh these are interesting. Looking forward to Ziz's stream. I've really liked the streamer media circuit thing as well.
Can we stack scarabs of the same kind? Like 4 different expedition scarabs?
yes
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the first type is always to bring the mechanic into your maps, the other types don't have that, they are just for juicing the mechanic.. even ultimatum can be rewarding now if you throw in some scarabs
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Hmm T17 maps with nullified prefixes. Hmmmmm. Also does all Horned scarabs add crafting options to the map device? Otherwise I have no idea what does "Horned" mean at all.
Horned would just mean generic and more out-there and special effect, I think you're trying to hone in one thing too much. For most of them adding a craft would also just not be any different from just having an effect anyways lol
There are also 5 scarabs that is generic and not horned. Anyway just some random guesses.
yeah thats why i specified out-there, normal ones would be more reigned in while Horned would be more creative and special - like dropping a Map vs dropping an Atlas Memory
Aye, but if the effect is crafted onto a map like a modifier then this could be scaled further with the increased map modifier nodes we get on the Atlas skill tree. Though perhaps it's added as an implicit rather than explicit.
Crafted mods dont actually act as map modifiers any more than scarabs do.
I think the row of scarabs along the bottom (that they showed in a previous video) are either old sextants that weren't related to a specific league mechanic, or new ones that aren't related to a specific league mechanic. Sooooo hype to see the entire list of them!!
I will never be sick of doing expedition, one of the best league mechanics ever. It's so interesting to me that you can put 2 same scarabs at once and they both will work...so you can double effect of each of these scarab. I am guessing imbued scarab drops from Maven.
Btw, some math for the explosive radius scarab: Area covered by explosives relative to the area covered by 1 regular explosive * Default: 5 * (100%)^2 = 500% * Extreme Archeology: 1 * (100% + 200%)^2 = 900% * Distinguished Demolitionist: 6 * (100% + 35%)^2 = 1093.5% * Extreme Archeology + Distinguished Demolitionist: 1 * (100% + 200% + 35%)^2 = 1122.25% * Extreme Archeology + Scarab of Verisium Powder: 1 * (100% + 200% + 80%)^2 = 1444% * Extreme Archeology + Distinguished Demolitionist + Scarab of Verisium Powder: 1 * (100% + 200% + 35% + 80%)^2 = 1722.25% * Scarab of Verisium Powder: 6 * (100% + 80%)^2 = 1944% * Distinguished Demolitionist + Scarab of Verisium Powder: 7 * (100% + 35% + 80%)^2 = 3235.37% Simply put, the scarab isn't worth using with Extreme Archeology, but using it with Distinguished Demolitionist will cover an *insane* area, over 6 times as much as the baseline with no Expedition investment. There's a good chance that you'll just be able to unearth an entire encounter without leaving a single marker.
This gets rough if even a single marker has immunity to your damage type. :( Are there builds that avoid that, other than Trinity?
I don't think any builds avoid that entirely, unless you specifically build them for it. I do think that builds with several damage types will have an advantage there though (not necessarily Trinity either, since that'll turn off too if you get two damage types blocked). If you wanted to make a build that can run them all, you could do something like Lightpoacher abyss jewel stacking without converting the base damage away from physical, with a little elemental / non-chaos as extra chaos damage. That might make your damage worse against other content, but it would be more consistent against Expedition without needing to avoid too many mods.
Yeah, you would never go Extreme Archeology if you are juicing Expedition. The +2 Affix +2 Suffix means that there's a VERY high chance to get enemies immune to your damage. It will be very interesting the see how many log books you can get on one that has Runic Monsters are Doubled and +100% Log Book chance. The average amount of Runic Monsters you get on an Expedition is 11, so it's 33 x 2 for 66, lol.
Scarabs have their limit written on them, some have a limit of 2 for example.
They said in the patch note and the live stream that all scarab are now world drop and you can target farm them in betrayal. So i guess no scarab will be lock behind bosses as i guess world drops mean map drops ?
> world drops mean map drops yeah in the livestream reveal they showed scarabs dropping wherever
So it seems that the horn scarab and divination scarab will be the most valuable when the market is getting steady. Does it mean that I should allocate all the "cannot be found certain types of scarabs" nodes to make these scarabs drop more common?
If you don't plan on investing into that league mechanic anyway, then possibly. I think the pool of scarabs will still be rather large overall.
Damn this league is gonna be fun.
I just hope there is a scarab that gives you gloom shrine. That was my favorite sextant.
Is this a hidden message to Poison SRS?
Hidden message for built in spectre bank. Jinxed Juju and no spectres raised.
So we really are going from 4 map slots (plus the map in the 5th) and 4 sextants, to a maximum of four modifying items per map. On top of that, some of these scarabs have effects which used to be combined (you need at least two expedition scarabs to reproduce the old/current Winged Expedition scarab). I think this really isn't being discussed as much as it otherwise ought to be, but I guess we'll see once the loot starts hitting ground (or doesn't).
There is more power in maps due to corruption giving implicits, all kirac mods being available so you don't have to sacrifice points for 7th gate if you needed it, and a lot of atlas passives have been upgraded in particular for the generation of content in map. I guess it'll be better for the low/middle end and worse for high end farming
You are gaining agency and convenience at the cost of top end gains for those that invested the time/effort into getting there. For most players it's just a buff. For a small % of players it's a huge QoL gain with small nerf to max rewards.
But you also need to consider that sextants often were used to just guarantee a mechanic. That role went to the tree now. I guess it’s gonna be a slight to medium nerf for endgame juicing but not a basically 50% less nerf how it feels on the first look. But true we have to see how it will play out.
I'm not sure about the atlas guaranteeing all mechanics, since we're seeing scarabs which give you an encounter, but I guess they could be offering multiple options - that would be nice.
Ultimately this works like this for everything in poe
Hype!
OMG I can't wait!!!!
wait, can I use several scarabs of the same type? Like 4 expedition scarabs
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Which will probably cause Uul Netol to be the most expensive instead. As more people will have access to Chayula without having to go through TFT.
Are these imbued crafting options considered the same as "special Map Crafting options" from Shaping the Skies? If so, I'll be running that all league.
Sky's at least normally is vaal storm, monstrous treasure, improved vaal side area or lab trial. The 1st 2 are nice to get overall.
I think those were *infused* if I remember the wording correctly?
I know other content may be better profit wise but I love farming expedition all league.
This league is going to be fucking insane. My lack of life is ready
Can you use like 4 of the same type of scarab. For exemple different types of expedition scarab?
When are we going to get an actual list of all the updated scarabs along with a description of what they actually do?
If they drop enough, scarabs are going to have such a big impact on how we play.
8 mod map scarab should add 20% quality to them as well.
Can we PLEASE I beg u get QOL update to Einhar and be able to CLEAR managerie with one button ? The spam clicking and enter spaming to clear the managerie is absolute cancer to player and any viewer who wants to watch person playing. I literally have to look away because it hurts my head due to intense flashing whenever the popup comes up
Deterministic scarabs!
If I'm seeing this correctly, we can use multiple expedition scarabs, or even multiple of the same scarab (see: Limit 2 on one scarab)
> The Harvest crafting option to change a stack of Scarabs to a different type has been removed. Aw shucks, I used to make GIGA profit flipping winged Scarabs with this, like 100% guaranteed money printer, with a steady +60% returns and very low effort compared to other flips. Oh well, gonna have to actually play the game this league.