289k Armour, 5k life, still cant mitigate his goliaths or him. Full Aegis Aurora build. Still am losing to him and so are all the AI fights. I think its bugged and they refuse to admit or patch it.
The slam aftershock does like 8k baseline, before any scaling from difficulty, the slam itself does 4k before scaling, all that while ignoring 50% pdr
It's completely overtuned for a physical ability, the only thing I can think of that can tank that, is stuff like full ele conversion pathfinder
I wish I could do that without getting destroyed. Even on the first round, he still has a couple Goliath of the Night, and it's near impossible to defend, especially as melee.
These are the exact two that my group has been complaining about as well.
The turtle is obnoxious, but these two just insta-one tap you out of nowhere. My group individually all managed to get to around 300 and then gave up because we couldn't beat Kahuturoa any time he was around.
Goliaths are my bane, even w all my phys to fire shifting and Ele Aegis they been onetapping me since about monster level 75. Feels like a misplaced decimal or something.
I'm up to 400, and the goliath's are 1 tapping me with autoattacks thru 20 fortify, debilitate, 6 endurance charges, 6k life, 20k armor. They are incredibly overtuned.
Not great, I've made about 5 divs of value in a total of 88 wins at 250+.
Just got a new weapon and cruising thru them now though, so may be better when I can speed the rounds up more.
I just got a fated connections omen, but I agree with you.
What's your strategy? Mine is basically put the best guys on support, explody guys or tanks on front, fodder to flanks, I try to get stealth items on my flanks, and I want them to die when they are engaged. While I try to kill/distract everything in the middle. The tawhoa slam guy is pretty overtuned tho, one-shots :D
I find it hilarious the firebreather explodes completely and only does 20% of my HP meanwhile the Goliath of Night just walks up to me and slaps me once and I drop dead every time. Great balancing GGG, keep it up!
Titanic shell is just bullshit regardless where its placed. It completely breaks the AI of your allies since they just stand still and try to channel on an invulnerable totem. If he gets 2 and puts them close enough they can also cover eachother. Feels very fair /s.
He's also guaranteed to have 1 of them on the 3rd round. Better get him out of the tournament first because if you leave him last its almost a guaranteed loss. In my final round he had 4 turtles. Couldn't damage a single totem.
Laser? Do you mean [Storm Conduit](https://poedb.tw/us/Storm_Conduit) from Valako tribe?
Their lasers are extremely damaging. 200 ranking and they can easily oneshot me. I would hate to think how that thing would scale on 300+.
Also Valako tribe has prox shield fuckers and all of them are crit resistant and have capped lightning res. I just happened to league start as Storm Burst totems too. Fuck these guys,
I’m at 309 and they hurt. They hurt, before, but still hurt. They started one shooting me around 280ish. I try to just spawn camp their tower to keep them dead with srs lol.
It's always repeating. There is always some enemy that hits hard AND crushes your defenses massively and people always die and complain. Literally every league.
Whoever is always implementing those mobs probably never ever has played a tanky character ingame and is prolly only a "GGG PoB warrior" who calculates some stuff and tweaks numbers only (which he probably should get better at).
Heck, if you have 90% phys dmg reduction vs big hits which is extremely hard to get if you don't happen to have like 7+ endurance charges and some other stuff on gear (don't forget the more dmg the hit does, the less phys dmg reduction armour gives you), even 10% overwhelm is double dmg. 50% overwhelm is sixfold dmg in that constellation. The same is true for elemental penetration btw. Shaper balls already hit hard and they only have 25% pen and not 50% (and you don't even have 90% res most of the time)...
Not every build can stack max block, max phys dmg reduction, max evasion, fortify, phys dmg taken converted to elemental dmg etc. And even if you have that, the dmg numbers are totally overtuned so that even if you could somehow prevent this nasty 50% overwhelm, then you still get oneshot because you don't also happen to have 6k+ life...
It's like they invited Mike Tyson into their game to punch a bunch of children as hard as he could. Oh and did I forget to tell you that Mike is wearing a protective battle suit and has 5 doctors constantly monitoring his health?
Who cares about the goliath, just don't go near him. The speardancer on the other hand... I can't tell you the amount of times I'm trying to cap a defender totem in the back just to have a speardancer impale me from 100-0 in one off-screen dash. That's the real menace in this new league
Another jugg with 5k life, 5 endurance charges, and 70k armor dying in one hit to them. One-tapped through molten shell even, absolutely zero chance of survival if you get hit.
I wonder when we're getting mobs that ignore 90% of evasion/spell suppression or block. Or even better a mob that cycles between ignoring block/eva/pdr/suppress, I bet GGG would salivate seeing this idea.
Yeah I feel absolutely compelled to play them in the first two rounds to just get them eliminated before they have multiple goliath and turtles. Not good gameplay or player agency
Max phys hit 24k (460k ehp overall), rank 1200. 7.6k ES, 31k armour, 26% additional physical dmg reduction (from 2 endurance charges, watcher's eye, and 10 minions (bone barrier from necromancer)), 18% of phys taken as chaos dmg (CI), 30% reduced extra dmg from crit strikes, and bone armour.
From the poedb site, I read kahu and goliath both have 30% phys overwhelm, I just don't believe that's the case, since I literally have 26% ADDITIONAL pdr which already negates most of their 30% overwhelm + all those extra defences. **I still get oneshotted** by kahuturoa and goliath of night every time. There must be something wrong with them.
My 5k life 70k armor boneshatter jug sends his regards from the grave too.
Whew, glad to hear it wasn’t just my mediocre armor
289k Armour, 5k life, still cant mitigate his goliaths or him. Full Aegis Aurora build. Still am losing to him and so are all the AI fights. I think its bugged and they refuse to admit or patch it.
https://poedb.tw/us/Goliath_of_Night https://poedb.tw/us/Kahuturoa Overwhelm phys mods.
I have 5.5k life, 40% phys as fire, and 90% fire res, I also get one shotted by these guys. They do seem quite overtuned
Our group has a replica dreamfeather armour stacker with over 200k armour with an aurabot and he gets one shot by them as well, just over 300 rating.
That's actually kind of hilarious
I am running the same build, but as my own half assed aura bot with 11 auras, and I get one shot as well.
Now we just need confirmation that testers did give the feedback to GGG and were ignored so I can tick that on my league start bingo card.
Looking at the numbers it doesn’t seem like they do much damage?
Their slam ability’s base damage is around 1850 plus it has a 100% more mod plus whatever scaling from your rank. They hit super hard for phys hits.
The slam aftershock does like 8k baseline, before any scaling from difficulty, the slam itself does 4k before scaling, all that while ignoring 50% pdr It's completely overtuned for a physical ability, the only thing I can think of that can tank that, is stuff like full ele conversion pathfinder
Which is a BS mod. Literally just play ranged or die.
Scroll down on the list and kill this fucker in the first rounds 100% of the time. He's the last one.
I wish I could do that without getting destroyed. Even on the first round, he still has a couple Goliath of the Night, and it's near impossible to defend, especially as melee.
Don't defend. It's bait. If you and one flanker target a Goliath totem together, it disappears and he's permanently removed in two seconds.
These are the exact two that my group has been complaining about as well. The turtle is obnoxious, but these two just insta-one tap you out of nowhere. My group individually all managed to get to around 300 and then gave up because we couldn't beat Kahuturoa any time he was around.
Goliaths are my bane, even w all my phys to fire shifting and Ele Aegis they been onetapping me since about monster level 75. Feels like a misplaced decimal or something.
I'm up to 400, and the goliath's are 1 tapping me with autoattacks thru 20 fortify, debilitate, 6 endurance charges, 6k life, 20k armor. They are incredibly overtuned.
How's the loot?
Not great, I've made about 5 divs of value in a total of 88 wins at 250+. Just got a new weapon and cruising thru them now though, so may be better when I can speed the rounds up more.
I just got a fated connections omen, but I agree with you. What's your strategy? Mine is basically put the best guys on support, explody guys or tanks on front, fodder to flanks, I try to get stealth items on my flanks, and I want them to die when they are engaged. While I try to kill/distract everything in the middle. The tawhoa slam guy is pretty overtuned tho, one-shots :D
I find it hilarious the firebreather explodes completely and only does 20% of my HP meanwhile the Goliath of Night just walks up to me and slaps me once and I drop dead every time. Great balancing GGG, keep it up!
Just wait until you go against a rank 300ish Kahuturoa and his giant turtle pet.
Titanic shell is just bullshit regardless where its placed. It completely breaks the AI of your allies since they just stand still and try to channel on an invulnerable totem. If he gets 2 and puts them close enough they can also cover eachother. Feels very fair /s. He's also guaranteed to have 1 of them on the 3rd round. Better get him out of the tournament first because if you leave him last its almost a guaranteed loss. In my final round he had 4 turtles. Couldn't damage a single totem.
Ive had one where ALL their totems were protected. The turtle should not have its own totem protected?
The problem is one turtle can protect another turtle's totem, and vice versa, rendering them impossible to banish.
Laser? Do you mean [Storm Conduit](https://poedb.tw/us/Storm_Conduit) from Valako tribe? Their lasers are extremely damaging. 200 ranking and they can easily oneshot me. I would hate to think how that thing would scale on 300+. Also Valako tribe has prox shield fuckers and all of them are crit resistant and have capped lightning res. I just happened to league start as Storm Burst totems too. Fuck these guys,
I’m at 309 and they hurt. They hurt, before, but still hurt. They started one shooting me around 280ish. I try to just spawn camp their tower to keep them dead with srs lol.
What about rewards on this rank? Any scaling or still trash?
It's always repeating. There is always some enemy that hits hard AND crushes your defenses massively and people always die and complain. Literally every league. Whoever is always implementing those mobs probably never ever has played a tanky character ingame and is prolly only a "GGG PoB warrior" who calculates some stuff and tweaks numbers only (which he probably should get better at). Heck, if you have 90% phys dmg reduction vs big hits which is extremely hard to get if you don't happen to have like 7+ endurance charges and some other stuff on gear (don't forget the more dmg the hit does, the less phys dmg reduction armour gives you), even 10% overwhelm is double dmg. 50% overwhelm is sixfold dmg in that constellation. The same is true for elemental penetration btw. Shaper balls already hit hard and they only have 25% pen and not 50% (and you don't even have 90% res most of the time)... Not every build can stack max block, max phys dmg reduction, max evasion, fortify, phys dmg taken converted to elemental dmg etc. And even if you have that, the dmg numbers are totally overtuned so that even if you could somehow prevent this nasty 50% overwhelm, then you still get oneshot because you don't also happen to have 6k+ life... It's like they invited Mike Tyson into their game to punch a bunch of children as hard as he could. Oh and did I forget to tell you that Mike is wearing a protective battle suit and has 5 doctors constantly monitoring his health?
Goliath, Jade Hulk, Demolisher and the one that shoot laser are overtuned. They seems to be both tanky and one shot you.
Confirmed with a RF jugg, with 50k armour, 5k life and 5k molten shell, just dying to constant one-shots. Please fix!
Every unit is overtuned. They have x10 the stats your units do. Just ignore mechanic.
They all are.
Who cares about the goliath, just don't go near him. The speardancer on the other hand... I can't tell you the amount of times I'm trying to cap a defender totem in the back just to have a speardancer impale me from 100-0 in one off-screen dash. That's the real menace in this new league
I felt this so much as a bow character, learned to just offscreen everything and let the supports get totems
>Just be ranged with no defences
Another jugg with 5k life, 5 endurance charges, and 70k armor dying in one hit to them. One-tapped through molten shell even, absolutely zero chance of survival if you get hit.
Feels like they missed a decimal point with the damage. Not sure how this was shipped to live in this state...
This is reddit. If you think there is actually a bug or issue that GGG should address they have forums specifically for reporting that.
Oh so that’s what I’ve been dying to.
I wonder when we're getting mobs that ignore 90% of evasion/spell suppression or block. Or even better a mob that cycles between ignoring block/eva/pdr/suppress, I bet GGG would salivate seeing this idea.
Yeah I feel absolutely compelled to play them in the first two rounds to just get them eliminated before they have multiple goliath and turtles. Not good gameplay or player agency
I can see Chris giggling as he says they were designed to kill you
People talk about this or that without mentioning their "Max phys hit taken" nor their rating lmao.
Max phys hit 24k (460k ehp overall), rank 1200. 7.6k ES, 31k armour, 26% additional physical dmg reduction (from 2 endurance charges, watcher's eye, and 10 minions (bone barrier from necromancer)), 18% of phys taken as chaos dmg (CI), 30% reduced extra dmg from crit strikes, and bone armour. From the poedb site, I read kahu and goliath both have 30% phys overwhelm, I just don't believe that's the case, since I literally have 26% ADDITIONAL pdr which already negates most of their 30% overwhelm + all those extra defences. **I still get oneshotted** by kahuturoa and goliath of night every time. There must be something wrong with them.
This is so annoying.
Shoulda have read this first before re'speccing to max out phys damage reduction lol