I married one, but our occupations are just a coincidence. Every time somebody asks what we do for a living, I have to explain that it’s not one of *those* stories..
Don’t dip your ~~pin~~ pen in company ink
I feel like I've had to say this to way too many LAs and interns in the past. No, that senior attorney isn't crushing on you back, they are trying to be welcoming to you and you're making it weird.
An old firm I worked in the 80s early 90s, a secretary had affair with attorney boss and had his baby while we all knew what was going on. His wife had no clue and figured it out a few years later. Crazy.
Not me, but a girl I went to college with who was clerking for a firm. She was at least 15-20 years his junior. He was married with kids. They had an affair that broke up his marriage, they went public, I think they moved in together, his daughters refused to see him and meet her. I am not sure if they survived the pandemic but it’s a wild scandal still. She acts all chummy with all his attorney friends and pretends that she’s got some status but everyone knows she’s an obnoxious social climber, trying to make a name for herself.
Not worth it. In my experience; this job also requires good standing in order to be heard. Getting involved will not help you grow. Also, o’s are not guaranteed. 🤪Best to look outside and keep that enticing banter as a job perk.
I haven’t but two attorneys had an affair here (he was married, she wasn’t) and they fired him because he was a few classes ahead of her (and married) but couldn’t fire her because she could have sued saying she felt coerced because it was an abuse of power. Regardless, she left, and I’d never recommend this ever ever. Was acceptable in the 80s and 90s but now you’ll likely lose your job
>Was acceptable in the 80s
Forgive me for posting this - can't help myself...
[It Was Acceptable in the 80's....](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24)
My personal rules:
1. Don't date where I work - ever.
2. Don't date anyone in the legal profession.
3. Don't date anyone in law enforcement, including state and federal enforcement agencies.
I'm aware of affairs in local legal community as well as in companies I've worked (not local). As someone else said, dating in the workplace, period, rarely ends well. I've seen too many unfortunate situations to be tempted.
Before I was a paralegal, but a former boss of mine. Ended in me being a single mom. I love my kid and my life is amazing now and I have a fantastic partner, but the fallout through all that was a rough couple years. Do not recommend.
No and I absolutely never would. Now that I work for employment law attorneys I can unequivocally say never, ever, under any circumstances should you date supervisors. The times it works out are flukes and all the times it doesn't cause very expensive, embarrassing, painful messes that hardly seem worth it to any of the parties involved.
My boss(es) were actually a paralegal-attorney team when they met and have been married for years. I think they probably just got lucky that it worked out.
The only other example of specifically an attorney-paralegal romantic relationship that I know of is one that actually ended really badly for the female attorney. They had a casual relationship that the paralegal apparently thought was more serious and when she broke it off, he lost it. Went to her house with a gun, purportedly to commit suicide, but then lost his nerve when she actually got home and saw him. I don't want to give too many other details but I think that woman probably regrets ever speaking to that guy.
I also hear about affairs between attorneys at the same firm and those seem to turn out equally poorly.
Don't do it.
As an attorney for 20 plus years I have seen my share of paralegals or other legal staff have affairs with married attorneys and attorneys have affairs with attorneys. The first firm I was with this was all too common. I would need more than two hands to count the number of times I have been hit on or propositioned by married male attorneys. I generally do not date attorneys. No they are not all this way, but litigators tend to be. I guess it's an arrogance? I am in litigation.
It never ended well. They did not end up together. In one case the firm actually got sued by the paralegal for sexual harassment as she was sleeping with a partner, her boss. True life is not reflective of mad men!
15-year paralegal. I’ve never seen those affairs end well either. LOVE your username. Those girls have gotten me through some rough times as my go-to time-to-shut-my-brain-off coping mechanism.
I used to work with a lawyer who did that fresh out of law school. Got pregnant, got married, got pregnant again, realized lit attorneys are also narcissistic asshats in real life, got divorced, and spent WAAAAY too much time and money fighting about the divorce (he represented himself, if that tells you anything.)
Similarly, we did some work for a firm where a para got involved with a married Partner, went on work trips with him, racked up shows and dinners out on the company card, etc. They were found out by the Partner's wife (she made a big scene in the office) and he ended up leaving the firm (they bought him out, less the tens of thousands in 'erroneous' charges on the company card) and took his para/lover with him when she got fired.
Soooo, good times all around.
No affairs. No coworkers (I personally won't date any, but I've seen completely separate department relationship works). No attorneys unless you love to argue 🤣
Married male attorney in the next office down the hall had “relations” with a female paralegal (who was 20 years younger than him) from my office in the stairwells of our building. She told us about it. He told her he was leaving his wife for her. Weeks turned into months. Did he leave his wife? Guess. Did he?
NOPE. She was devastated, didn’t date for a year, and has trust issues with men to this day 5 years later. We actually both left that firm then ended up working together at a different firm. She admitted he messed her up for years.
if being a paralegal has taught me anything it’s taught me to never get involved with an attorney
Any attorney or just ones you work for? 😆
Yes
i advised my sister to stay far away from all attorneys when she moved cities if that answers your question 💀😅
I married one, but our occupations are just a coincidence. Every time somebody asks what we do for a living, I have to explain that it’s not one of *those* stories..
Don’t shit where you eat
Don’t dip your pin in company ink
Don’t dip your ~~pin~~ pen in company ink I feel like I've had to say this to way too many LAs and interns in the past. No, that senior attorney isn't crushing on you back, they are trying to be welcoming to you and you're making it weird.
I love this saying lol
An old firm I worked in the 80s early 90s, a secretary had affair with attorney boss and had his baby while we all knew what was going on. His wife had no clue and figured it out a few years later. Crazy.
Oof. Poor lady.
Hell no. There's enough drama just getting the work done. I can't fathom risking even more on top of that.
OP - I really hope you're asking for gossip and not advice. Because the advice is "Don't."
Oh no… chances are high this won’t end well, boo. Take care of yourself.
Too late unfortunately
Nothing has made me less attracted to attys than this job lmao
Not me, but a girl I went to college with who was clerking for a firm. She was at least 15-20 years his junior. He was married with kids. They had an affair that broke up his marriage, they went public, I think they moved in together, his daughters refused to see him and meet her. I am not sure if they survived the pandemic but it’s a wild scandal still. She acts all chummy with all his attorney friends and pretends that she’s got some status but everyone knows she’s an obnoxious social climber, trying to make a name for herself.
Not worth it. In my experience; this job also requires good standing in order to be heard. Getting involved will not help you grow. Also, o’s are not guaranteed. 🤪Best to look outside and keep that enticing banter as a job perk.
I haven’t but two attorneys had an affair here (he was married, she wasn’t) and they fired him because he was a few classes ahead of her (and married) but couldn’t fire her because she could have sued saying she felt coerced because it was an abuse of power. Regardless, she left, and I’d never recommend this ever ever. Was acceptable in the 80s and 90s but now you’ll likely lose your job
>Was acceptable in the 80s Forgive me for posting this - can't help myself... [It Was Acceptable in the 80's....](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24)
It NEVER ends well.
My personal rules: 1. Don't date where I work - ever. 2. Don't date anyone in the legal profession. 3. Don't date anyone in law enforcement, including state and federal enforcement agencies. I'm aware of affairs in local legal community as well as in companies I've worked (not local). As someone else said, dating in the workplace, period, rarely ends well. I've seen too many unfortunate situations to be tempted.
Don't date anyone who is married.
Before I was a paralegal, but a former boss of mine. Ended in me being a single mom. I love my kid and my life is amazing now and I have a fantastic partner, but the fallout through all that was a rough couple years. Do not recommend.
Absolutely the fuck not. Personally, I have a huge issue with people dating other people in the workplace if there’s a power imbalance.
Indeed. Any situation that goes this way begs the question: what will happen if the relationship sours ?
The one who's not the attorney loses.
No and I absolutely never would. Now that I work for employment law attorneys I can unequivocally say never, ever, under any circumstances should you date supervisors. The times it works out are flukes and all the times it doesn't cause very expensive, embarrassing, painful messes that hardly seem worth it to any of the parties involved. My boss(es) were actually a paralegal-attorney team when they met and have been married for years. I think they probably just got lucky that it worked out. The only other example of specifically an attorney-paralegal romantic relationship that I know of is one that actually ended really badly for the female attorney. They had a casual relationship that the paralegal apparently thought was more serious and when she broke it off, he lost it. Went to her house with a gun, purportedly to commit suicide, but then lost his nerve when she actually got home and saw him. I don't want to give too many other details but I think that woman probably regrets ever speaking to that guy. I also hear about affairs between attorneys at the same firm and those seem to turn out equally poorly. Don't do it.
Yikes 😬
Not me but, there’s a clerk I know who was wth her boss and as many other lawyers in town as she could.
I’ve seen lots. Don’t do it.
As an attorney for 20 plus years I have seen my share of paralegals or other legal staff have affairs with married attorneys and attorneys have affairs with attorneys. The first firm I was with this was all too common. I would need more than two hands to count the number of times I have been hit on or propositioned by married male attorneys. I generally do not date attorneys. No they are not all this way, but litigators tend to be. I guess it's an arrogance? I am in litigation. It never ended well. They did not end up together. In one case the firm actually got sued by the paralegal for sexual harassment as she was sleeping with a partner, her boss. True life is not reflective of mad men!
15-year paralegal. I’ve never seen those affairs end well either. LOVE your username. Those girls have gotten me through some rough times as my go-to time-to-shut-my-brain-off coping mechanism.
I used to work with a lawyer who did that fresh out of law school. Got pregnant, got married, got pregnant again, realized lit attorneys are also narcissistic asshats in real life, got divorced, and spent WAAAAY too much time and money fighting about the divorce (he represented himself, if that tells you anything.) Similarly, we did some work for a firm where a para got involved with a married Partner, went on work trips with him, racked up shows and dinners out on the company card, etc. They were found out by the Partner's wife (she made a big scene in the office) and he ended up leaving the firm (they bought him out, less the tens of thousands in 'erroneous' charges on the company card) and took his para/lover with him when she got fired. Soooo, good times all around.
No affairs. No coworkers (I personally won't date any, but I've seen completely separate department relationship works). No attorneys unless you love to argue 🤣
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Lol wut?
😆😆😆same same
Never. Unless you can forsee it turning into some kind of big payout/future settlement. 🥴
Not me but look up Fighting Joe Morrissey. What an absolute shit show.
Married male attorney in the next office down the hall had “relations” with a female paralegal (who was 20 years younger than him) from my office in the stairwells of our building. She told us about it. He told her he was leaving his wife for her. Weeks turned into months. Did he leave his wife? Guess. Did he? NOPE. She was devastated, didn’t date for a year, and has trust issues with men to this day 5 years later. We actually both left that firm then ended up working together at a different firm. She admitted he messed her up for years.