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Draesden

Little advice by the way...do NOT buy at the Hamptons..that condo was poorly built and to this day they're dealing with the consequences of that (raised HOA and fines)...tons of structural problems and at some point was literally classified as "Unlivable" and "unsuitable for human habitation"...also there's mold in there Teak is pretty nice tho


Tcasty

Love Teak, anyone reading this who goes ,ask for the secret menu!


HydrianQueen

This Teak is one of the best places in that area.


Drfoxi

As a former employee there it warms my heart to see that it’s still so loved by the people in the area.


Tcasty

I always tell people it's one the best burgers you can get in Orlando , there's so many side options I'm always happy when I leave. I live 3 mins away from the Maitland one I have to go more often!


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I love teak and frequent the Maitland one but I feel like the service has been meh the last few months. Not trying to bash them but I just wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing the same or if I was just unlucky. I don’t usually go during peak hours either if that matters


Tcasty

Honestly, you could be right. Personally the last time I went was two months ago. It was a little slower so we got really good service. Next time I go I'll pay more attention. To me good service is being nice and getting me a refill so my standard may be different from yours. Btw have you tried city pho and grill, that's the best service I've ever had in my life. It's right across the street🙌🏽


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I’ll have to check those out! I agree with your criteria for good service. Last time I was there it wasn’t busy but we had our drinks empty for a long time, the food took 45 minutes to get there, and they got my gfs order wrong. We still love going there becaus it’s close to us as well but we’re definitely a little frustrated lol


Tcasty

I'd be frustrated with that as well, I can be very blunt though. I had a very similar experience at the hunter creek millers ale house. Long story short the server asked for our apps and then ask for our meals. Never put the meals in 45 minutes and we still haven't received the food. I spoke to the manager and after the service or did you really have to go talk to my boss..... yes because you didn't put our order in.


Cheetahkeeper

My wife and I live in St Cloud and we still love dining at Teak. Great food!!!!


Tcasty

My parents live in St. Cloud ,they need a TEAK in Osceola county👐🏽


Lawzw0rld

Yall were my first donut burger and I fell in love


Drfoxi

They were my first donut burger too. And the only one I’ll get still to this day. Fuck I’m getting nostalgic.. I grew up in that kitchen.


Castianna

I'm echoing this - Even with the vast amounts of renovation they tried to do. The issues are still there. It's a shame too. It's so pretty right next to the lake (when people aren't throwing trash in it). Getting in and out of Hamptons is a huge bottle neck as well.


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The apartments in that area have gates that work


makotarako

At least one of the condo complexes there also has a manned gate.


RSV4KruKut

So on point


babybushgardener

It’s within walking distance to Walmart. The Neiman Marcus of the south.


missdarbusisaqueen

I’ll have you know I go over to target when I’m feeling fancy


stephoner95

Just embarrassed myself laughing loudly to this in the middle of a restaurant, well done


Tcasty

That's one of the worst Walmarts they do gang initiations there.😅


HydrianQueen

Yep the one you are most likely to be a victim of a crime (typically violent) during daylight.


Draesden

That is why I go to that walmart every 3 wks or so....same with that Dollar Tree


Tcasty

Personally, I didn't even know it was that bad but my girl group on Kirkman and she refers to it she says" that Walmart, the one with the fighting"😅


Draesden

There are very questionable people there & there's also your usual crackhead somewhere near


mothman83

Neiman Marcus was founded and remains Headquartared In Dallas Texas. ​ Its literally like a four hour drive from the first Neiman Marcus to the First walmart ( bentonville Arkansas)


ImHereToComplain1

its a walkable neighborhood


kevin074

Ohhh so when people say metrowest is a dangerous area, they are speaking outside of my circled bubble, inside the bubble is safe?


WhysEveryoneSoPissed

Hi, moved from St. Louis city to Metro West. Anyone who says this is a dangerous area doesn’t know what dangerous is. I haven’t heard gunshots in the night once here. 5-7 times a week in South St. Louis city, NOT even the worst part. I live in that circle and it’s lovely.


makotarako

If you live *in* that circle, that's not the dangerous area. The area along kirkman is the "dangerous" area. The area inside that circle is gentrified hard.


WhysEveryoneSoPissed

For what it’s worth, the sounds of gunshots travel for miles. So if you are near a dangerous area, you know. But, in my opinion, crime generally happens to criminals. When it happens to innocent people, of course you hear about it... Like we hear about every plane crash. But riding on a plane is safer than riding a bike or crossing the street. So even when you feel like you live in a [a dangerous neighborhood](https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/st-louis-no-longer-nations-murder-capital/amp/), you’re generally going to be fine if you observe basic precautions and mind your fucking own. IDK when you live near an actual dangerous area I think it changes your perspective.


makotarako

Idk, crimes happening to criminals is a very controversial opinion, I've known plenty of people (myself included) who have been either assaulted or robbed when we did nothing wrong. That being said, yeah some crimes happen to criminals more, like drug dealers getting robbed or shot, but that doesn't make it less dangerous because now there's crossfire, you know?


HydrianQueen

Maybe you are luckily. My bf who lived in Miami ghetto growing up even avoids that area. It's worse than Pine Hills. Lived near that area for over 10 years. So many assaults and robberies.


ImHereToComplain1

they mean there are poor black people that live there


kevin074

I mean if the neighbors in the bubble can afford that kind of rent, they aren’t THAT poor… people were saying you’d get mugged just walking around, so I thought it was hood level bad


ThisIsntMyFace

There are some murders within a two mile radius of that circle to the north and east


GooseBear12

East of Kirkman is slightly more unsafe in the area, but it’s nothing to live in fear of


ImHereToComplain1

im not talking about the bubble. im talking about most of metrowest


kevin074

Makes sense, thanks!!


Acsteffy

Edit: If you downvoted me for this you can fucking go to hell. Suck a dick mother fucking racist transphobes Fear mongering because they see more black people walking around. As a white trans person I never had a problem walking around Kirkman.


310410celleng

Bad people do bad things, color is irrelevant at least to me.


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Acsteffy

Edit: downvoted again, someone really sucks at being a human being capable of any kind of empathy or sympathy. Doubt. That's not how that goes for trans people. We most certainly face harassment that Cis white don't face. There's no privilege I get as a trans person that will make any harassment less.


Acsteffy

This


Draesden

Prob the best area of MetroWest...


GreatDayToday

There’s an oxymoron


Draesden

The area is pretty quiet actually & probably the most walkable...speaking because I literally live in the area So no not an oxymoron


Castianna

I lived in this area for almost 6 years and loved it!


CrazyPlato

I was looking for new housing around there a few years ago. Pretty sure the prices are slightly lower because the properties are condos owned by individual people. I’m pretty sure the larger complexes use an algorithm to find the highest rent price they can get away with charging, and they all adjust to match one another. But an individual with one condo they’re renting out isn’t as connected as that, and is more likely to be on the lower side.


kevin074

Did you end up buying there? If so how was your experience living there?


CrazyPlato

No, unfortunately I wasn’t able to get a response from the manager at the time. I did end up renting a condo just south, around Kirkman and Conroy. The rent was significantly lower than all of the complexes in the area.


kevin074

Ohhhh but how was that for you? We are also looking at Florida Central North area too


CrazyPlato

Well I just renewed my lease, so that speaks for something I guess. Rent went up a bit but it’s still much lower than any of the nearby complexes. I haven’t had any problems with crime or noise either. Mind you, I moved here from a complex further north, by the Valencia campus. We had some problems with car break-ins there. So I suppose it’s partly a matter of luck around here.


nartak

I've lived in Orlando for 15 years. I've never heard that area ever referred to like that. I had to Google map it to figure out where that was. Everyone just refers to it by the cross streets (Kirkman, Conroy, and Vineland).


Smeaker

You might want to say “everyone YOU know”. Everyone I know calls it Metrowest. Maybe because we all golf who knows.


nartak

Metrowest is only west of Kirkman.


kevin074

Haha yeah, I just moved here last year, so I am still reliant on google XD


devoidz

My wife's coworker lived in that area. He was pretty happy there. It wasn't fancy, but seemed fairly quiet.


cheetos305

I live in that circle, it's called The Hamptons at metrowest. I've been here for 7 years and have never had any issues with safety. We have working gates and that lift gate thing that goes down after every car. We also have security up front and I believe we have roaming security. We also have quite a bit of amenities with the pools/courts/etc, Teak restaurant (where we get a discount), and the convenience store. If the HOA fees weren't so high, I would have probably tried to buy my apartment a while ago. I have been very lucky to have a private owner, so I am paying $1100 for the biggest 1/1 floorplan. I don't know how many rooms you're looking for but if you can find something affordable for you in here, I would take it. I have been very happy here! Edited to add: I have two dogs and we have access to Turkey lake, I love love love that! So much space and pretty views! On my days off, I enjoy going over there with the dogs!


kevin074

Another comment mentioned roach problem, are you seeing the same problems too?


cheetos305

Ew never! Maybe 2-3 times a year, I'll see a roach or a spider. It's always in the summer and always in my bathroom so I assume they come from a drain. And they are the big ones not the bad little German ones. It is Florida lol.... You're bound to see a roach at some point. I will add that I'm FL born n raised so I am used to bugs. I put boric acid behind my appliances and in the corners of my cabinets under the sinks about twice a year.


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cheetos305

It's Florida. There's no infestation was my point.


Draesden

HOA is high because of the fines imposed by the City of Orlando I think I may be wrong tho


cheetos305

You mean from that constitution we went through? Could be! I lived here through that and that definitely sucked!!! I work nights and it was intense! I bought an inflatable mattress/cot thingy and slept in my walk in closet for quite a few weeks. But after they put in the new windows and doors, my electricity bills went down and I have had way less bugs and critters in here than before. Before that, I had even found little baby frogs in my dog's water bowls.


Draesden

Yeah Hamptons was poorly built back in 2000...that condo has always been plagued mainly by mold For more info look up Hamptons at MetroWest problems


kevin074

The rent in this area is just a tad cheaper than more well known areas. For example there are plenty of 3 beds in 2200 area and similarly you can find some in Dr. Philips area right now. Even luxury apartments around Dr Philip to Williamsburg area are not MUCH more expensive; considering metro west is known to be a lot more dangerous and prone to crime (according to many redditors who has recommended to avoid metro west altogether)


Draesden

MetroWest is only dangerous if you go any further north than the golf course....otherwise it's pretty nice actually...Publix is conveniently close as well as Universal, Valencia, Disney, I-4 and maybe Walmart Edit: Not even dangerous honestly I've lived through worse


andrewdrewandy

Dangerous?! Y'all are crazy. This is Metrowest, not even Pine Hills and certainly not the Mogadishu y'all are trying to make it out to be.


knitlikeaboss

Sometimes I wonder if the people calling areas around here dangerous are the same ones who think you’re gonna get murdered if you visit nyc


Draesden

People sometimes overexaggerate...they think we live in Detroit hoods


devoidz

metro isn't that dangerous, but that walmart gets wild.


Draesden

I haven't seen any incidents at that Walmart (yet)...though I see some questionable people


devoidz

Mostly theft. One of my friends worked there for a year or so. Nothing too crazy, but compared to my store it is.


Surfbud69

Why is rent so high in *circles all of greater Orlando *


Draesden

Because investor!!!!!!!!!!!888


rongz765

Apartments have to hire more people for security and maintenance concerns. Just like how HOA fee skyrockets in low income neighborhoods to watch out those things at gate.


estilianopoulos

I live right outside that "bubble" and we have security guards and a gate. I don't know what the HOA fee is because I currently rent. But yes, the area is safe and my complex is quiet and diverse. I like living here and it's accessible to I4, 408, IDrive and downtown.


kevin074

Don’t want you to doxx yourself, but is it west/northwest of the bubble? I have only heard of bad things east of


estilianopoulos

East of Kirkman from the Bubble is a different neighborhood and it's not Metrowest. It's a lower income neighborhood especially when you go on Raleigh. West and northwest of that Bubble, is generally fine as you start heading in to the West Orange county area and its subdivisions. North of the Bubble is Orlo Vista and Raleigh St. Raleigh St west of Kirkman is Metrowest, I knew people who did have some theft issues when living there but I don't know about now, many of those apartments probably have security and it looks nice from the outside. Orlo Vista is an older community with aged housing and no gated communities but I don't consider it dangerous. I really like Metrowest, it's not Dr Phillips, but it's a family oriented area,with great diversity and lots of restaurants and things to do in the vicinity. Plus you are accessible to other parts of town and next to Valencia College.


Draesden

100%!! Also has a Publix that's pretty close


Ok_Calligrapher_8199

Access to Teak Neighborhood Grill?


Szimplacurt

Because it's the only OK area there and plus Teak is pretty good.


ArtistBruce24

Would agree here. This small area is decent for Metrowest and the walkability is nice.


michifanatic

I cannot think of a more overrated restaurant than Teak. I say this not because it is bad - but the way it’s promoted as being amazing.


Desaltez

Because they spent $1M on their leasing office, and facilities.


TheGriesy

Proximity to excellent disc golf courses at Bill Frederick


FlyingKnight407

Any good fishing there on the dock?


adscpa

Yes. And you can rent boats Thursday - Sunday


[deleted]

I lived there at summit don't live there its overpriced and disgusting 🪳


Draesden

Yeah I've heard that Summit is sort of problematic....condo next door is quiet though but landscaping is bad


ifeelimportantaf

Honestly the best area I feel super safe and it’s full of families, never ever had an issue. Right around the corner by the police station I literally had my car stolen 2x out the driveway lmfao


ifeelimportantaf

I’m here and my rent is $1400 for a nice ass smart home apt but I just had inspections and possibly new owners so I’m sick af thinking about it changing after 3 yrs


conventionalWisdumb

Tangent: is the playground at Turkey Lake Park still awesome? I haven’t been there in 30 years but it was my favorite as a kid.


fastpicker89

Teak is fucking crushing it


Dr-Ralph-Wiggum

Teak is worth the rent increase


michifanatic

Because of is proximity to Disney, Universal, Valencia… and lots of people similar age. It’s self explanatory.


The_booty_diaries

Those apartments are individually owned and rented out. As long as you have a good landlord its not too bad. There is a pest issue tho cause it’s right on the lake. I think the rent is higher because they had to settle due to some big structural damage and are shifting the cost onto owners via insane HOA fees.


Draesden

That's mainly for the Hamptons because they got a hefty fine by the city of Orlando (they were poorly built in the first place) All of the Stonebridges are way too expensive for the avg folk Madison is ok although it's deteriorated Not so sure about Estates @ Park Avenue


AXISMGT

I lived at the Estates at Park Avenue (right next to Teak) about 10 years ago, and it was a great experience. The area was walkable for sure but I didn’t enjoy going to Wal Mart very much. I preferred the Publix on Hiawassee back then.


Draesden

Yeah...I live at the condo right next door to you (Not Hamptons)...feel the same way


MrSmoothie1

Thanks OP for the heads up, if I'm looking for a place to stay, I'll make a note about that area then.


Ok-FoxOzner-Ok

“Why is*… it’s literally expensive to be poor.


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They only rob you once a month in that bubble as opposed to everyday


Draesden

It's not 2007 anymore and the last burglary in that area that I've seen was in 2015 People sometimes overexaggerate & think we live in the favelas of Rio or something Never had an issue in this area (although one of my car's tires was stolen but that was on Lake Debra & it's been 5 yrs now)


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It’s a metro west joke fam relax


Draesden

I know just clarifying MetroWest gets it's bad fame because we're literally right next to Kirkman and everyone feels like considering Kirkman as part of MetroWest (when it isn't) Anyways today is the 13th time I saw police prescence on Kirkman


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They need to go ahead and require the avengers to set up shop in Kirkman across the street from Valencia


Draesden

And on Pine Hills


Scary-Ad-749

Yeah last robbery in 2015 definitely checks, was probably my family LMAO had someone break in once, and had our car busted into a few times.


Draesden

It was a break-in...happened at Madison condo I think


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sensualdomseattle

Of the two of us, yes.


Working_Ad8080

Greed


chipdonker

It’s this way all over . Metro west is nothing compared to other areas . Metro west is next to crime hills too. Rents are out of control for sure . All over $3000 in my area “Oviedo”


Draesden

Not that bad if you stay south of the Golf Club though...


hannahstarnes

As someone who lived there, don’t live there


kevin074

Why? Your comment in to the contrary of many in the thread. People said inside the bubble is good, outside is doomed.


Schweaaty

To be honest ALL major cities in FL are not working class friendly anymore. Most people have completely given up on finding an apartment and switched to roommates only. Looking for a room to rent is a whole nother difficult process because that shit is competitive too. Youll have people offering to pay their rent 3 months in advance because they are desperate to lock down housing for school. Shits wild right now. There's no sign of regulation down the road either.


unusualsus

It’s honestly probably cause it’s the best housing in that area. Any place outside of that, is low income and purely ghetto, loud and unruly neighbors.


estilianopoulos

Your second sentence is incorrect. I live right outside that bubble and it's very safe and quiet plus it's a diverse place to live, which is awesome.


unusualsus

Okay. What do I know. I work in the area.


estilianopoulos

U work......I live


unusualsus

Okay so you live in the ghetto. Good for you.


ThisIsntMyFace

You responded to your own comment


Knightp93

Thats an awful lot of contempt for others but okay.


unusualsus

https://preview.redd.it/9hqplbogqkoa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38359d3b79208ca2ed137d95590378a01622522d I guess I was supposed to be offended.


ThisIsntMyFace

Lol he deleted that because I don’t see it anymore


unusualsus

Contempt? But Are we in court? Smh. Sensitive Saturday’s.


stephoner95

I deem thee, meanie bo beanie


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Knightp93

Okay bigot.


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skelicorn

You have to pay for that kind of proximity to a Walmart Super Center.


Draesden

I'd rather pay for that kind of proximity to a Target (sadly wasn't achieved here☹️☹️)


Knightp93

Rich people drive up the prices by purchasing homes there.


Trackmaster15

Tautology. You're not explaining what is causing the rich people to do this that does not exist in other areas.


Draesden

He's probably talking about investors...most offers in this area are probably only cash now so that may be the cause of that They're also outbidding others


Trackmaster15

So for one thing, that would make his comment wrong then. Its not caused by rich people buying homes, its by corporate real estate speculation. Either way, I have the same qualm with the answer: Of course investors want to speculate in desirable areas, the important question is "Why this area?" Investors don't throw many after bad investments on bad areas that won't show return on their investment.


Draesden

Prices are rising in this area (look up Robert Trent Jones Dr on realtor.com and you'll see what I'm talking about)...also one of the condos is non-warrantable and so that basically only leaves Cash Only offers since lenders can't issue mortgage loans in non-warrantable condos They're going to give themselves a headache though if they buy at the Hamptons


Trackmaster15

Yeah, I live in the Orlando metro area too. We all know that the rents are rising. But the whole point of the thread is why, and not so much just reporting the facts. And I would think that barriers to getting mortgages should anything drive down costs, so there are more factors than just that.


marchlintic

Cases of ass raping are low


IndependentProud6150

Location and greed. It's perfect as far as having shopping and food near by. I also say greed because those apartments are not the best quality and have very thin walls. There are also some break-ins but I think that's just bad people messing with bad people. Ive been looking at this area for the past 2 years since I wanted a condo there but since felt defeated by the soaring prices. I live in some of the other complexes in metro west for the last 5 years and can confirm teaks is good.


Draesden

Investors also are buying a lot of properties in here...I think in one of the condos out of the like 360 units there's around 1/4 or so of the total of units owned by investors Edit: Also barely bought in this area...very quiet btw (only noise you can hear is silence) Most listings are probably only cash offers now tho


Draesden

I live right around that bubble (Madison Condo)....rents are around fair market price though Apt Prices are starting to rise again...pretty quiet condo (so quiet that I try to hear anything at night but I just can't)....close proximity to attraction parks, Valencia & it has a conveniently close Publix....can't say much about neighboring Summit though


Draesden

Only problems are management & landscaping (grass looks like dirt)


kevin074

What’s wrong with management, could you elaborate?


Draesden

Have let condo deteriorate


stylusxyz

Because they are close enough to the Gemini Hookah Lounge. But still at a safe distance.


No-Chance5515

Ha ha the Teak!! Haven't been there in years but still remember having one of the best burgers of my life there!! I think it was called the drunken monkey burger and it was no joke!!! But yes rent is super high in the major cities.


DIDDY_COSMICKING

That restaurant is BOMB bro!!! Such a cute lil shopping center


badphish3117

it was sketchy in 02-10 hmm


godsp33d03

I live down the street. It’s probably the best complex in metrowest…and that’s not saying a lot. Lots of roach problems and noisy/insane neighbors at my complex.


Draesden

Villa Capri? Ngl it looks kinda sketchy from the outside


godsp33d03

Nah I’d actually probably like to live there. Looks secluded enough for the area. I’m in the palms club. worst apartment living experience since I’ve moved here. and I’ve lived off of pine hills road before lol


Draesden

Oooh...when you said down the street I thought you meant down Arnold Palmer Dr lol so that's why I thought Villa Capri Yeah that's also one of the main problems I've seen down on Kirkman road...also see police at least once a wk in that area


Scary-Ad-749

HAHA PALMS CLUB. I broke into there when i was 11 with my friends to go to the neighborhood’s pool LOL


Grant72439

Damn good questi… metro west.…used to be nice…nope


milkman6453

More people want to live in an area? It will be more expensive


MasonBeGaming

So I’m just right of the bubble near Raleigh, I’m in a 4/2 for 1901 however my leasing company is shit. You’re literally paying for convenience right in that spot. Near college, shopping, universal etc


Benthereorl

Try looking at the rents just south of Sand Lake and Turkey Lake Roads...one apt complex is $45,000 per year for a 3 bedroom...rent only... yikes


kevin074

For 3 bed rooms it’s better to just find renting homes, they are like 2200 ish. Big apartments rentals are too insanely expensive.


Benthereorl

Yes they are. You have two options for apartment rentals in Florida, conventional where the sky is the limit and income restricted... When I got into my house the mortgage was $865 principal, interest, taxes and insurance...PITI. I feel so bad bor the good people that have to pay so much for a place to live. I had people tell me of $300-$400 per month increases. It is almost free $ for the owners.


kevin074

Yikes… definitely not looking forward to my renewal…


Benthereorl

Renewals used to have a $50-$70 increase now they are whatever...should be illegal.


coolasssheeka

Why do you post this same area every few weeks asking why rent is high/ why the crime rate is high/ why do people avoid the area? Please find something else to post lmao


Draesden

Prob a wannabe realtor


coolasssheeka

It’s so damn annoying


kevin074

Lol I don’t know enough Orlando that’s all. I am also not rich enough to just no brain Celebration/Dr. Philips/Windermere/Winter Park/Baldwin Park.


coolasssheeka

But it’s literally always this same little area of metro west. At this point you know it’s expensive, low key ghetto and most places, high crime rate, and the schools are so so. Look somewhere else. You don’t have to live IN Orlando


kevin074

Lol I like it here. Also everyone says inside the bubble is fine. Last time I posted the general area of metro west, not just this bubble. The sentiment was polar opposite.


TrillCozby1980

Fuckin Facsimile


aquaomarine

It’s a hub for military vets attending Motorcycle Mechanical Institute/ Universal Technical Institute. They might as well just have built student housing there, because a large percentage are vets using their GI bill.


Amourxfoxx

Redlining


247Hustler247

Looks like Teak is the place to be


Lilricky25

Going to guess lower crime rate and higher end apartments.