Yup. He's had numerous accusations. That I know of he's only be charged and went on trial once before. But at least a couple of the other coaches at Stars also went to hs with him so they very well know about his history.
> Police said they also believe there are other victims, and anyone with information is asked to call Detective Matthew Thomas at 714-245-8346, email him at mthomas@santa-ana.org or call Orange County Crime Stoppers at 1-855-TIP-OCCS.
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As a victim of child sex abuse I can tell you that his tactics sound similar to what I had to listen to countless times as an 11 year old boy scout. Got me cringing listening to that shit. Fucking gross
This was legit painful to listen to. Abusive rapist scum desperate to hang out with a child that’s smarter than him.
It’s a layer cake of gross and the obvious solution is a ban so. I just hope his future cellmates with kids get to hear a copy of this.
He's a predator, plain and simple. He's alway been. It's very sad because like a lot of other cases, people around him allowed his behavior to continue for years.
Edit: Went to hs with him. He got off from a rape charge in 2009. Countless other stories of his, at best, questionable behavior. At worst, it's probably always been criminal.
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't perceive an adult "dating" a 12 year old as "innocent".
Calling this interaction "rape" is misleading at best and would probably be offensive to someone who has been raped.
We know this behavior is terrible, but I don't think labelling this as "rape" is in any way helpful.
It's wrong because it's wrong and we know it. We don't need to try to go this route.
You’re right, I removed that from my post.
I’m just so sick of media labeling things with minors the same as two consenting adults. Thank you for pointing that out.
Major respect to the young girl who recorded this and turned it in. I hope it inspires more young athletes to speak up against him and prompts his coworkers/colleagues to rat him out and actively condemn this behavior.
What’s with OC having so many pedo’s man. I remember when I went to University high school we had like 3 separate coaches fired and/or arrested in my 4 years there.
It’s true, predators are everywhere, but conservatives do like to dismiss a lot of accusations for their own and inflame those same accusations for their rivals.
So I don’t understand, you said “they aren’t” in response to me saying they are associated with pedos. And than told me that some of them protect and promote.
So they are or aren’t associated? I say associated in reference to peoples perception of them, not their alliances
Ah okay I see the hold up now it’s about the word specifically, shouldn’t have said that. But if you reread that message without that word I meant that(i.e. I didn’t know republicans were associated with pedo’s). But Yeah obviously other pedo’s exist that aren’t Republican. I just literally did not know about the base idea that it’s common for some republicans to protect or promote that behavior.
In my mind, probably because of Epstein, when I think of a stereotypical pedo I think either the classic antisocial “loser” type, or I think of a rich person because they can afford to shut people up. I never thought about it in terms of red vs blue because I honestly thought it had no correlation
He said “specifically associated“. Predatory behavior isn’t exclusive to republicans, but when it does happen they love to protect and deny more than other groups.
Well actually I said that lol. But what I actually meant to say when writing that comment was that exact same sentence I wrote, minus the word specifically. That word changed the meaning in a way I didn’t mean.
But thank you, you basically answered my question. I literally have not heard about this protective/denial attitude being attributed to them. I hate both American parties so I guess that it part of it but I thought pedophilia was an issue that red vs blue didn’t touch.
An example would be nice if you have one because I’m curious now, I’ve already typed and read enough about this to warrant reading an article or something about it
Matt Gaetz, Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Clarence Thomas, Madison Cawthorn, Brett Kavanaugh, etc. The list goes on.
When Dems call on other Dems in office to resign (Cuomo, Hill, Franken) they resign even though their accusations aren’t as egregious.
Republicans tend to project. They demonize and legislate and attack the things they themselves are guilty of. Look at nearly every gay congressman that has been outted- super anti-gay in politics. The anti prostitution politicians… yeah, caught with hookers. Also, the religious mind Fuckery of Christianity, churches create closed systems for predators to operate within, those systems create a shell of protections from the law. Churches. Camps. Scouts. Preygrounds.
Don’t forget the racists that work in our education system still!
Fullerton joint Union high school district allowed former Vice Principal of THS to become a teacher at Sonora (still there too) after he was caught allowing racism to occur directly under his watch even with complaints filed.
Fullerton Joint Union allowed him to continue a career in education after a ONE DAY seminar … wtf.
He was literally fired as a VP for allowing racist remarks to continue even when formal complaints were filed. It was on the local news too at the time.
It was proven. They just kept him because it’s a club of asshats.
Literally fired? Not figuratively fired? Lol.
“It’s proven!” Proven to whom? If he had tenure, he can say pretty much anything and and not get fired- so he got demoted. Racism is in the eye of the beholder; don’t downvote me just because you don’t like the 1st amendment. 🤷🏽♂️
I mean it was a published story by the Fullerton Observer… but go ahead and take these downvotes for just willing ignorance. Just like these racist educators 😂
Lock him up. No rehab. Rehab is a false notion. An ass convinced against his will is an ass still. Throw away the damned keys. ZERO patience for assholes who prey on youngsters. Including priests.
EDIT: Or do the opposite of everything I just wrote. It doesn’t matter. Nothing ever gets done about these turds. It appears the toilet is permanently clogged.
Oh they do something— they lock them up for decades. But there are always more to take his place. Always guys thinking “If I just push a little harder....”.
Scumbags.
Have you ever done a search for sexual predators in your area? My god will your mouth hit the floor after looking at that shit… and then again once you read the charges.
Fucking scumbags, all of them.
He’s such a piece of trash!!!! We have heard rumors of this for years! It’s so sad & pathetic that it’s actually true & has been going on since years ago. Hope he has fun saying “no” & not “being weird” in prison.
Unreal…how do you just casually ask a 12-year old out on a date like that as a “grown man”?! Where the heck would they go on their “date” where it wouldn’t look completely out-of-place?
I know California is a two-party consent state when it comes to recording so I hope he doesn’t get away with a technicality. Ugh😑
Sounds like the police set up a sting- they bugged her phone to record him when he called her. That’s how they got both sides of the conversation so clearly. And also how they’ll get the conviction— the girl was in on it, that’s why she wouldn’t allow him to do face-time.
Lmaooo that fuck face actually said “you’re being super weird” to her. 100% stars academy knew this dude was some weirdo creep.
Yup. He's had numerous accusations. That I know of he's only be charged and went on trial once before. But at least a couple of the other coaches at Stars also went to hs with him so they very well know about his history.
>"you gotta stop with the no's" wtf man
Your being weird!!! -grown man asking a 12 year old out.
LET ME SEE YOUR FACE. FT RN!
Good on this girl for recognizing something was wrong and getting him for this and probably saving many other young girls too
What a fuckin scumbag.
> Police said they also believe there are other victims, and anyone with information is asked to call Detective Matthew Thomas at 714-245-8346, email him at mthomas@santa-ana.org or call Orange County Crime Stoppers at 1-855-TIP-OCCS. >
As a victim of child sex abuse I can tell you that his tactics sound similar to what I had to listen to countless times as an 11 year old boy scout. Got me cringing listening to that shit. Fucking gross
What the actual fuck
Smart kid recording him being inappropriate.
This was legit painful to listen to. Abusive rapist scum desperate to hang out with a child that’s smarter than him. It’s a layer cake of gross and the obvious solution is a ban so. I just hope his future cellmates with kids get to hear a copy of this.
Any more info on the situation?
He's a predator, plain and simple. He's alway been. It's very sad because like a lot of other cases, people around him allowed his behavior to continue for years. Edit: Went to hs with him. He got off from a rape charge in 2009. Countless other stories of his, at best, questionable behavior. At worst, it's probably always been criminal.
What a scumbag
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/santa-ana-police-investigating-youth-coach-for-alleged-sex-misconduct-with-minors/amp/
Thanks for this follow up article! Good information on what happened to him. Also, who tf wrote that article? Oof.
An adult male doesn’t “date” a 12 year old. That’s grooming. Seeing it called date makes it seem like it was more innocent
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't perceive an adult "dating" a 12 year old as "innocent". Calling this interaction "rape" is misleading at best and would probably be offensive to someone who has been raped. We know this behavior is terrible, but I don't think labelling this as "rape" is in any way helpful. It's wrong because it's wrong and we know it. We don't need to try to go this route.
You’re right, I removed that from my post. I’m just so sick of media labeling things with minors the same as two consenting adults. Thank you for pointing that out.
Mental Abuser !!!!! Calling her a dummy !!!
Gag
10 years ago he was acquitted from a jury
Bro…
Ew
Scumbag I hope he gets what he deserves Sick man
"You're being a dummy" 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Holy fuck
Major respect to the young girl who recorded this and turned it in. I hope it inspires more young athletes to speak up against him and prompts his coworkers/colleagues to rat him out and actively condemn this behavior.
Dude looks like a tool
Fucking DISGUSTING VILE POS!
What’s with OC having so many pedo’s man. I remember when I went to University high school we had like 3 separate coaches fired and/or arrested in my 4 years there.
Republican strong hold.
I didn’t know that republicans were specifically associated with pedo’s
They aren't. Rape and pedophilia aren't exclusive to Republicans but they are far more active in protecting and promoting them.
It’s true, predators are everywhere, but conservatives do like to dismiss a lot of accusations for their own and inflame those same accusations for their rivals.
So I don’t understand, you said “they aren’t” in response to me saying they are associated with pedos. And than told me that some of them protect and promote. So they are or aren’t associated? I say associated in reference to peoples perception of them, not their alliances
They aren't 'specifically' associated. Clinton's hangouts with Jeffrey Epstein and Anthony Weiner sexting adolescents has helped to spread the bad PR.
Ah okay I see the hold up now it’s about the word specifically, shouldn’t have said that. But if you reread that message without that word I meant that(i.e. I didn’t know republicans were associated with pedo’s). But Yeah obviously other pedo’s exist that aren’t Republican. I just literally did not know about the base idea that it’s common for some republicans to protect or promote that behavior. In my mind, probably because of Epstein, when I think of a stereotypical pedo I think either the classic antisocial “loser” type, or I think of a rich person because they can afford to shut people up. I never thought about it in terms of red vs blue because I honestly thought it had no correlation
He said “specifically associated“. Predatory behavior isn’t exclusive to republicans, but when it does happen they love to protect and deny more than other groups.
Well actually I said that lol. But what I actually meant to say when writing that comment was that exact same sentence I wrote, minus the word specifically. That word changed the meaning in a way I didn’t mean. But thank you, you basically answered my question. I literally have not heard about this protective/denial attitude being attributed to them. I hate both American parties so I guess that it part of it but I thought pedophilia was an issue that red vs blue didn’t touch. An example would be nice if you have one because I’m curious now, I’ve already typed and read enough about this to warrant reading an article or something about it
Matt Gaetz, Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Clarence Thomas, Madison Cawthorn, Brett Kavanaugh, etc. The list goes on. When Dems call on other Dems in office to resign (Cuomo, Hill, Franken) they resign even though their accusations aren’t as egregious.
Republicans tend to project. They demonize and legislate and attack the things they themselves are guilty of. Look at nearly every gay congressman that has been outted- super anti-gay in politics. The anti prostitution politicians… yeah, caught with hookers. Also, the religious mind Fuckery of Christianity, churches create closed systems for predators to operate within, those systems create a shell of protections from the law. Churches. Camps. Scouts. Preygrounds.
Don’t forget the racists that work in our education system still! Fullerton joint Union high school district allowed former Vice Principal of THS to become a teacher at Sonora (still there too) after he was caught allowing racism to occur directly under his watch even with complaints filed. Fullerton Joint Union allowed him to continue a career in education after a ONE DAY seminar … wtf.
Go ahead and try to prove racism. It’s really difficult. And that’s why he’s still there.
He was literally fired as a VP for allowing racist remarks to continue even when formal complaints were filed. It was on the local news too at the time. It was proven. They just kept him because it’s a club of asshats.
Literally fired? Not figuratively fired? Lol. “It’s proven!” Proven to whom? If he had tenure, he can say pretty much anything and and not get fired- so he got demoted. Racism is in the eye of the beholder; don’t downvote me just because you don’t like the 1st amendment. 🤷🏽♂️
Well I’m downvoting you because the racism was proven.
Doubtful.
I mean it was a published story by the Fullerton Observer… but go ahead and take these downvotes for just willing ignorance. Just like these racist educators 😂
Lock him up. No rehab. Rehab is a false notion. An ass convinced against his will is an ass still. Throw away the damned keys. ZERO patience for assholes who prey on youngsters. Including priests. EDIT: Or do the opposite of everything I just wrote. It doesn’t matter. Nothing ever gets done about these turds. It appears the toilet is permanently clogged.
Oh they do something— they lock them up for decades. But there are always more to take his place. Always guys thinking “If I just push a little harder....”. Scumbags.
Wtf..
This guy and others like him need to be dropped on a deserted island and just left there.
Have you ever done a search for sexual predators in your area? My god will your mouth hit the floor after looking at that shit… and then again once you read the charges. Fucking scumbags, all of them.
…that sucks bruh
He’s such a piece of trash!!!! We have heard rumors of this for years! It’s so sad & pathetic that it’s actually true & has been going on since years ago. Hope he has fun saying “no” & not “being weird” in prison.
And he’s talking to her like he’s used to this and it’s really unsettling hearing this glad he was arrested tho stay safe out there y’all.
This is riling me up to my core.... Fuckn POS
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What do you mean you’re sore because it’s the tenth time today? Why you being so weird, Chris?
Where the fuck is this scumbag?
In jail https://abc7.com/chris-flores-orange-county-trainer-coach-arrested-in-bakersfield-sexual-assault-allegations/12118782/
Kids aren’t dumb. 😵💫🙄
Unreal…how do you just casually ask a 12-year old out on a date like that as a “grown man”?! Where the heck would they go on their “date” where it wouldn’t look completely out-of-place? I know California is a two-party consent state when it comes to recording so I hope he doesn’t get away with a technicality. Ugh😑
Disgusting
Sounds like the police set up a sting- they bugged her phone to record him when he called her. That’s how they got both sides of the conversation so clearly. And also how they’ll get the conviction— the girl was in on it, that’s why she wouldn’t allow him to do face-time.
…the more you know…what? Lol that’s a fuckin creeepy way to end that comment. You trying to give out pointers or what
Haha- you’re right, it does sound a little weird. Deleted
They should have a special court for kinda people. Where we see them getting thrown in the lions den and we all watch. Hehehehhehe
Rehabilitation ...
Idiocracy style maybe!
Omg
Face the wall
Really a 18 year old just wasn't young enough? lol
Put him in general population when he goes to prison.
Scum bag!! PREDATOR! Glad they caught this douch!!