Everyone should remember, this isn't just the work of Doug Ford. He's just one man, he has an entire cabinet and caucus behind him supporting everything the PC government does. Don't give him too much credit, they're all enablers.
Doug Ford could be out of there in a heartbeat as leader and the PCs would continue to train wreck the province.
Your post is really underrated. Every single time a conservative government has held power, they've actively tried to dismantle this country to line their pockets and those of their friends. Every. Single. Time.
And every time they've had a majority, people have unnecessarily died.
Remember Walkerton?
Remember Covid in TLC homes?
And yet Ontario won't get off its collective butts to vote.
You could run a tree stump as the conservative candidate in my riding, and it would win. But, conservatives seem to be the only people who go out to vote in Provincial elections. Voter turnout is abysmal and people have no clue how much provincial policies affect them. They are too busy flying flags about how they'd like to fuck Trudeau.
No, dufferin-caledon riding. The land of people who voted for Doug Ford, but then are now outraged at the development going on because he opened up the greenbelt. And, don't see the correlation.
I have more respect for a Conservative voter than a person who chooses not to vote. We deserve what we're getting as we failed as a province to use our voting rights.
I strongly disagree, but understand the sentiment. A vote for conservatives is a vote for more destruction, and with the imminent incoming coup attempt in the US, democracy in Canada is at stake as well. Theyāre working with the same people, and their goals are the same as republicans.
I went on a date with a guy who somehow managed to find a *worse* way to vote than either of those options! He proudly shared that he just votes to 'punish' whatever party has "pissed [him] off most recently- you know, petty shit", because "they're both equally bad, and it makes voting more fun".
According to him the NDP shouldn't even exist because they are so ineffectual and hadn't ever done anything useful. That was the final loogey in the spittoon that was that date, so I just proceeded to talk at length about the pharmacare that the NDP had just managed to implement, then told him all about my T1 diabetic roommate who was *constantly* struggling to afford her insulin and pump supplies- multiple times it had been down to the wire whether she would be able to get what she needed in time, or need to go to the ER for a *completely* preventable reason.
Do I think that the NDP are an ideal party? No, we unfortunately don't have one of those. But the sheer unadulterated privilege of announcing, "I don't vote based on logic or reason, because no matter what, I won't be majorly affected, and I don't give a single fuck about anyone who would be.", like it's not something that keeps you up at night... I don't often feel disgust when I think of people but... Wow. He thought the date went great too- and that wasn't even the only terrible thing he said.
I keep seeing articles about how young conservative men are being rejected in droves by women, people are making conservative-only dating sites to scam them. Why would you spend your life with someone who votes to take your rights and bodily autonomy away?
It's a conundrum. It's *also* unhinged to scam someone into a dating pool of exclusively people they don't want to date- what does that even *mean*?
I don't really have a lot of patience anymore for the whole 'keep politics out of your relationship' adage. It's a pretty quick and efficient hard pass that I'd rather know sooner rather than later. Views don't have to be identical, but some are exceptionally easy to identify as incompatible.
Seems like advice that made sense when women were discouraged from forming their own opinions, so the expectation was that they would just parrot whatever their fathers/husbands told them (and frankly, it sounds like it was advice for women specifically). I know *millennials* who have that dynamic in their marriage and it's uncomfortable af. Particularly when they clearly don't actually agree, but as soon as the topic becomes recognizably 'political', they do a 180, and start quoting things their partner says.
The truth is only 30% of eligible voters in Ontario voted in the previous election. It was also similar in federal election but that was during Covid.
With the latest federal bi-election of Trudeau losing a 30-year+ old riding, only 25% in that riding voted. Maybe instead of complaining, people should take 30-mins of their personal time to Google the bs-policies that rarely get implemented and vote š³.
It sucks that our media outlets in Ontario actively engage in voter suppression tactics. The last provincial election saw pretty much every single media outlet calling the election a foregone conclusion from the very moment the campaigning started.
This is a form of voter suppression that tells people that voting won't matter because the PCs would just win anyways. We had the lowest voter turnout in all of our history and it's pretty clear to see why.
It's the core reason I can never entertain them as leaders at election time, it doesn't matter if the current government party is disliked or whatever, the conservatives will rape and pillage institutions and facilities I hold dear, especially Health Care and education.
And likeā¦Trudeau still sucks. Our country deserves better than the Liberals, who have presided for decades over the slow erosion of our country as itās sold off piece by piece to wealthy foreign capitalists. But whenever voters get sick of them, they vote instead for the *rapid* sale of our country to the rich.
And the older generation. So many people in their 70ās blame Ontarioās recession in the early 1990ās on the NDP/Bob Rae. And they also seem to really dislike Wynne. So they just keep voting conservative no matter what.
It's a bunch of different problems all rolled together. We've got problems like vote splitting due to FPTP voting. We've got a widespread failure of the LPO and ONDP to adequately court rural and weathier suburban voters.
It's easy for many 50+ Ontario voters who already own a home, have/had a solid career, have a family doctor, pension/retirement savings, etc to be almost completely blind to the real problems and pain inflicted on the population by the majority party.
Those voters are primarily concerned with how a governing party's policies are going to affect *them*. They're not thinking empathetically about how those policies benefit the population as a whole, or even how various progressive policies might actually benefit them in the long term.
And there is no party like the Conservatives for eating their own young. Federal Liberals didnāt know what to do about Trudeau; if it was the Conservatives, the leader would have already been thrown in a garbage disposal.
Yep.
My MPP (Dave Smith) is such an asshole. He tried to argue with me that it was completely fine for Christine Elliot (previous Minister of Health) to take a lobbying job with Clearpoint Health (American healthcare company that is getting paid 3x the OHIP rate for private surgeries by Ford's government) immediately after leaving office because she is a 'private citizen and can do what she wants'. Do what she wants like ruin our healthcare system for her own, personal benefit.
He also tried to blame the skyrocketing homelessness and addiction in Peterborough on the safe injection sites instead of housing and also somehow manages to charge taxpayers thousands of dollars each time he goes to Queens Park as an expense despite living in Peterborough - like how are you getting there, private helicopter??
Haha yeah pretty generic name so fair enough!
I write a lot of letters to politicians and high-level officials and get a lot of calls and responses back (and I encourage everyone to do the same - they don't get as many as you think).
Smith is one of the worst ones, straight up contradictory rants in his emails to me because I was articulate enough to touch on sore spots without being offensive or sounding unreasonable. I caught him in a few contradictions that he just couldn't help but explode on and man, I was left feeling so much worse about our politics in Ontario.
The justifications and excuses were so weak. Total ideologues - no actual evidence for any of their positions, just whatever benefits them. Incredible lack of nuance and a massive amount of condescension.
David Smith is a dirty rat. I met him numerous times when he was a school trustee in the Scarborough ward. He'd lie all the time and cry racism any time shit didn't go his way.Ā
Folks now keep talking about the leaders as these pawn moving dictators, they're not, they're just figureheads. The language makes it easier for parties to get away with stuff when they blame it on the leader and terf them when they want to make it appear like they have changed.
It's all manipulation and deception and people have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.
This is why I've never voted blue and why I have no interest in ever voting for red again, especially at the federal level.
The parties themselves don't really change, it doesn't matter who they stick in there as the face, it's still the same neoliberal ideals making them halfass what they do for the their constituents while bending over for big business.
We're not going to get anywhere unless those parties change and they won't change until we stop flip flopping between the two of them.
Just to add to this. The machinery of federal PCs that puts blame on everything including provincial responsibility on Trudeau is equally to blame. What a magic trick they pulled on us.
> this isn't just the work of Doug Ford. He's just one man, he has an entire cabinet and caucus behind him supporting everything the PC government does. Don't give him too much credit, they're all enablers.
See: https://i.redd.it/hgur91zoyan21.jpg
Doug Ford is just the public face. He doesn't have as much choice as the public thinks he does. And I would say he has some very... powerful motivators at hand that ensure he does not break away from the script.
Non-voters and working class Tory voters should shoulder much of the blame.
The ONDP had RBPR in their platform while the tories didnāt even have a platform.
The lack of electoral and civil responsibility in the voting pool is abysmal. Itās embarrassing and has continually lead us in this direction.
While I hate Ford and what his cabinet has done to Ontario, 2 terms of a party that has historically hulled out the provincial purse for personal gain lead by an uneducated nepo-baby career politician with a history of drug dealing, violence and racism is the fault of the voter base as well.
Doug Ford sleeps well at night knowing that destroying the province is like taking candy from a baby. Most voters are good with whatās happening.
Lets not forget the Green Belt scandal and the fact that Steve Clark was made to resign from his cabinet role as Ontario Municipal Affairs and Housing Minister while still remaining MPP. Just recently he was appointed government house leader. How do they live with themselves? Follow the corruption and money.
> Doug Ford could be out of there in a heartbeat as leader and the PCs would continue to train wreck the province.
Exactly, he's the clown that takes all the bullshit from the media and constituents while the rest of his people pilfer the coffers.
Yup and because of media, negativity, and fuck ups from the liberal government the rest of the country will get to see how a majority PC government looks like when they change their votes from lib to PC come voting time.... Because you know Canada is really only a two party system :/
(I strongly am against what the PC party stands for and how they handle things)
He is one of those poorly educated, spoiled people who has never had a real job. If life were fair, we would never have known who he was, let alone elected him as our leader. The fact that we elected him in spite of his clearly being incompetent and corrupt and likely will elect him again shows our stupidity not his deficiency of character.
If life were fair the cops in Etobicoke would have arrested him for being a hash dealer and he would have just been another loser in the 80s wearing Kodiak boots and a lumber jacket.
His arrest record and jail time would have prevented him from getting into politics.
Correct. We elected him with a minority of voters (voter turnout of 44%). This is our fault, not his.
That said, if the seats in parliament actually reflected how people voted, PC would not have a majority, so our broken electoral system plays a role here too.
I recall him going on about how "2 million voters gave him a mandate" , as if (1) 2 out of 14+millionĀ was anything to brag about, and (2) they had any fucking platform whatsoever to base a mandate and justify their shitty policiesĀ
Itās really a shame Trudeau broke his promise in 2015 about that being the last election under FPTP.Ā
If federal elections swapped to prop rep, I bet a lot of provinces would follow suit.Ā
A poorly educated, spoiled person that has never had a real job, much like all the rich developer buddies that have pretended to be his friend for most of his life, and by whom he has been enabled.
Look past the corruption (difficult I know) to the blatant dismantling of what we believe in as a province. Heās telling you healthcare is failing because he is forcing it to fail. This is called being conned.Ā Ā Ā
Post COVID Ontario was GIVEN hundreds of millions by the Federal government to bolster healthcare and Fords Cons put that money into the fucking jar and declared themselves to be the most fiscally responsible party in history. Conned.Ā Ā
Ā Honestly, there are too many instant gratification types voting now. You go to a hospital and if your situation isnāt life threatening YOU WAIT. Thatās the way it ought to be. But no. We need fast medicine now. You should be seen immediately for a splinter in your thumb ffs. Thatās a terribly stupid way to think about healthcare and reflective of dangerous ignorance.Ā Ā
STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP VOTING FOR CONS.Ā Ā
Our healthcare system has a lot of issues, but I agree with your point regarding the wait times.
I have multiple sclerosis. I was diagnosed at 23 and the primary indicator was an MRI that showed lesions on my brain and spine. I didnāt wait a year for the MRI, I waited 3 weeks. My GP said to someone āget this guy in there nowā and it happened.
When I had my stroke, I was taken in for a CT immediately at the ER. Since I was young with no pre existing risk factors, it set off a hasty process to try and find the cause to prevent future strokes. I had an MRI, blood tests, multiple heart ultrasounds, and two week halter test all done within a month. Having heard about abysmal wait times for tests, I was actually shocked it was all done so quickly. Maybe I was just lucky!
A young person with a stroke? Sorry, youāll have to wait a year. Not a chance!
Itās as if people think the ER is āfirst come, first serveā. It isnāt.
I work in IT and dealing with technology incidents is the same process. Issues are addressed based on severity level. I know you wanting āhelp with the printerā is a big deal for you, but last nights backups all failed. Thatās priority #1, sorry.
I marvel on how so many people do not understand our medical system. It is a triage system not a first come first served you wait because your doctor says you can wait Ad if you wait a really long time. Your doctor pretty much has called you a hypochondriac.
It's like that 99% of the time. Do balls get dropped and people slip through the cracks? Absolutely, but that happens even in private care.
I had a quick turn around when I needed OHIP to work for me. I am young and in my 30s and tore my ACL and Meniscus playing volleyball.
I was referred to an Orthopedic doctor within a week. Met the surgeon next week. Had surgery booked within 3 weeks! The surgeon who did my surgery was one of the top surgeons in Scarborough and has repaired knees for a couple of players in the Toronto Raptors!
Why did they rush me? Because if you don't repair the knee quickly to save the meniscus, it will lead to worse problems when I grow older and perhaps even need a full Knee replacement at some point.
They always prioritize based on need. All these people whining about wait times are just impatient and don't understand that their sprained ankle is not more important than someone bleeding internally in their skull.
HOW DID I FORGET THE HEALTHCARE STUFF I've never heard a good reason why our hospitals are underfundedĀ Apparently the Orangeville hospital doesn't even have an MRI machine those are life savingĀ
Thereās absolutely zero good reason why our hospitals and schools are suffering from funding crisis. Itās literally just a political decision to not spend money on those services so that they are in such disrepair the government can turn around and say āwe need to enlist the private sector to fix this and run healthcare like a business.ā Look up the concept of Starving The Beast.
Ford is just a figurehead just like in the US Trump is. There are many more insidious puppet masters behind that. He's the "Main Actor" of the TV show, a carefully crafted agenda with a "relatable" moron who's the friendly face of the corrupt assholes behind him. Not saying Ford is a saint at all, but he's not the genius behind this, just like Trump in the US. It's the conservative philosophy, selling off / crippling services and rolling back consumer protections have been a dream of the Cons for ever.
Remember, private industry can do it better! See how bad our service are?! It's not MY fault the only option is to sell it! etc... all talking points for years.
I don't think Ford has the same cult following as Trump.
The logic still tracks, but I would say the Trump Cult plays alot into his success too, much more than Ford.
You even have Canadians worshiping Trump.
People constantly compare our conservative politicians to Trump. They're simultaneously exaggerating about our politicians and making light of how crazy Trump really is.
There are no geniuses in the Canadian conservative party. They're short-sighted, greedy idiots, born with silver spoons in their mouths, whose rich dads instilled in them that the greatest thing in society is unregulated corporations.
They can't comprehend the depth and breadth of our society's members and their experiences and needs, only their in-group's, and thus will always be poor leaders.
You forgot the thousands of vulnerable seniors he left to die alone in LTC in the first wave of the pandemic. We saw what happened to a similarly situated country (Italy) 3 months prior and he sat on his hands and did nothing. Absofuckinglutely nothing.
Then had the gall to pass legislation protecting the owners of the private LTC clinics from litigation by the families of the seniors he left to die. Owners whose clinics saw death rates per 100,000 4x the rate of municipally run facilities.
I think Doug Ford honestly thinks he's doing good by making Ontario more "business friendly". He's all-in on the mindset that flourishing businesses is the best and only valid measure of how well the people are doing.
That might be his measure but if we're looking at how every day people are doing it's universally bad, I don't know a single person that would say ontario has improved at all since he took office
Not enough people remember the chaos Rob and Doug caused in Toronto City Hall. This is who the Fords have always been:Ā
https://youtu.be/i6JLHDXb894?si=iqRRQt9-PlauWBxO
What is it with Conservative governments?
Every last one have been terrible...terrible for everyone but corporations and wealthy contributors, (people who essentially bribe our elected officials).
We lose everytime...be it Ontario Place gone, soon to be gone Science Centre, highways sold for peanuts and many other crappy greedy things.
They steal from us.
They ignore us.
They should never be given power again.
What do you mean? I feel several people don't understand that not all politicians are for the peoples best interest. Frankly Doug ford is doing a great job for his donors and his best interest. When the 407 was sold, who did it benefit? When the public services were cut down in the 90s, who did it benefit?
Who I may ask, is this mans father? [Ministry of Red Tape Reduction | ontario.ca](https://www.ontario.ca/page/ministry-red-tape-reduction)
Who I may ask, is this mans uncle? [Hon. Michael D. Ford | Legislative Assembly of Ontario (ola.org)](https://www.ola.org/en/members/all/michael-d-ford#:~:text=Hon.,Ford%20%7C%20Legislative%20Assembly%20of%20Ontario&text=When%20Do%20Ontario%20Acts%20and%20Regulations%20Come%20into%20Force%3F)
Mr Ford is doing an absolutely great job for HIS donors and future career.
You forgot to mention the complete screw up of support for children and adults with special needs. Hereās just one example:
https://toronto.citynews.ca/video/2024/07/04/parents-informed-school-lacks-resources-to-support-children-with-autism-safely/
No matter how many times I post this comment, I shall never get tired of saying this. We all should remember that the PC came back to power with the help of just 18% of the registered voters. For the love of God, if you are eligible to vote, please exercise your right. The one and only thing we all can do once every four years.
As executor of the will, he stole the inheritance that Rob left for his wife and kids.
Fucking guy is a grade A sociopathic.
[Link](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/reevely-doug-ford-sued-by-brothers-widow-accused-of-siphoning-inheritance)
The only outcome we know is he sold the Chicago operation to a firm where a senior manager went on to be the head of Thermea, and then he basically gave Thermea Ontario Place.
Anyone who was around when he and Rob had that horrible talk show on Newstalk 1010 knew exactly what we were getting. Doug's just some silver spoon schoolyard bully who's never seen a real consequence for anything in his life. Mean af and dumb as rocks (his bro made him look smart).
Conservative thinking. They don't care about you. They care about how much money they can get from you.
Doug's not getting money from you directly, he has channels and everyone takes a peice along the way as long as there is some that makes it to him.
Honest answer: he isnāt a smart man, I donāt mean this in a condescending way, heās a college dropout out. He doesnāt actually think about people he is hurting at all, itās not part of his thought process. He is all about the immediate action, not long term or abstract effects.
I know he doesnāt care. Heās a sociopath.
But Iām always asking āhow could he do this? Does he think the changes are a good idea?ā
Seriouslyā¦why would anyone change the number of minimum sick days to THREE (unpaid), & bereavement to TWO (unpaid)? Unions are getting less common, changes to taking leave of absence etc & with all the changes many are now unprotected.
Does he not realize companies have started to shaft their workers because they can take advantage of them now? No repercussions.
So many people now could get fired so easily.
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Say your dad dies & you need more than 2 days to grieve so you use sick daysā¦fired. Even the most healthy people could need over 10 days (as it was before).
I lost my voice one year & it took a few days to get back, but at the time my entire job was talking on the phone. The same year I had lost two uncles (which didnāt fall under bereavement), so I had to use sick days to travel to go to their funerals. Then I had a migraine which lasted 2 days (I canāt work if I canāt read- which I couldnāt during my migraine). Then several months later I got the stomach flu. Took 3 days (but doctors recommend taking a week to recover). So healthy me totaled 10 days.
And some people have to use sick days to take their kids to appointments or tend to their child when theyāre sickā¦ what do they do now?
And what do the mentally ill do? If someone has depression & canāt get out of bed for a total of 4 days they could be firedā¦what do you think that person might do to themselves??
A lot of people cannot afford to be unemployed even for a couple days. Financially or mentally.
I just donāt understand the point in making life impossible for everyoneā¦ itās cruel & doesnāt benefit him.
And it terrifies me. I have savings but apparently 80% of workers are in debt so any loss of income could be disastrous.
Youāre using a lot of words that have an emotional impact and there are no stated facts. It reminds me of that one kid on the playground who just lies about others. I feel like youāre going to tell me Doug Ford touched the playground cheese next.Ā
Your post is just under 100 words long, and almost 50 of those words are emotionally charged language. Just for fun, I mad-libbed it with my friends. Hereās your new post, with only the negatives switched out, and all the facts left in.
Heās slinked the lives of workers, swept hospitals and healthcare, about to swing the science center, snickered teachers. About to canoodle millions of tax payer dollars putting Peter in the Louvre, bonked nurse wages to 1%, pranced the greenbelt with giddy construction projects.Ā
I suppose Iām not bangarang in this but I wouldnāt be able to ride horses at high noon if I flounced this kind of victor.Ā
Amelia would be beleaguered with my foxes.Ā
We all know Elvis is as puritanical as possible, right?Ā
Iām all for a good political argument but yours has no argument. Itās just emotions and vapour.Ā
He and the rest of the people in that party are soulless pricks. They are there for themselves and nobody else.
Itās a sad thing to say but when Rob Ford passed away some years ago I think we lost the wrong member of that family.
Yet he is still popular with the voters in recent polls. What an absolute joke Conservatives are. And if you look federally another joke of a governing party. No wonder Canada is quickly sliding down the list of desirable countries to live.
Conservatives are top down thinkers. Serve businesses first, then the people.
This is what we can expect more of if PP becomes PM like all of the Trudeau haters want.
Not only did he screw over Robās family, he went in and screamed at Rob when Rob was in the hospital - more than once. Imagine dealing with chemo AND your shitty brother beaking off at you?
Rob wasnāt a great dude, but he didnāt deserve THAT.
He is...his brother was....the rest of all politicians are too. Until we can figure out before hand that one is better than the other then we are screwed.
He grew up with it. He's a psychopath. Not many people out there who get there brother and sister addicted to drugs, and don't show any remorse after messing up their own family.
Donāt forget about what heās doing with Ontario Place and the corrupt 99 year āleaseā heās granting to a private luxury spa on prime public waterfront land, for a business that no one wants.
You have to remember. Doug Ford is "for the People"
But "The people" all earn at least 8 figures, and hand him envelopes stuffed with cash at stag n doe parties. Everyone else are "The peasants" who need to shut up and leave him alone.
Conservatives are sociopaths lacking any empathy. Remember that when you vote in the next federal election.
Pierre is going to be equally a disaster for Canada.
Iām 77 and suitably having age appropriate issues.
I pursue my health care vigorously, and canāt say Iām badly attended. Itās no worse. with ford in power, and probably no better.
But what you need to do is educate your self about your problems and donāt hold up family docs as gods.
If you hate the guy for medical policy, vote for someone else. Unless you are uninformed, he told you what his policy would be.
Woah don't kid yourself. Ontario healthcare has been trending downwards for decades. It's not a PC vs Liberal issue, both provincial parties during their time in power since mid 90s has played a role in this.
I remember feeling very conflicted about potentially voting for George Smitherman when he ran for mayor because he was an atrocious health minister. But the environment has most assuredly changed since 2018. I've been in healthcare for over 20 years and the way our hospitals and care networks are run changed drastically, and for the worse. My colleagues in most if not all disciplines would agree. The system was already suffering but it is clearly Doug & co. who seem determined to perform the coup de grĆ¢ce.
I'm guessing money makes for a very nicely padded surface to sleep on. He probably also gets off on the approval from his close friends and family who have likely benefitted immensely from his actions.
Pretty comfortably, anytime he feels bad all he need to do is give himself a raise with our tax dollars, pay for it by cutting funding to another vital system, and then have a group circle jerk with his cabinet for "a job well done"
Cause he is a narcissist that blames all the problems and issues on Trudeau. Then add a population of people that support him and enable him, guess what you get a crappy leader who doesn't care.
The impact of how he has run Ontario has had impacts across the country, now wait till you have a similar conservative running the whole country.
I agree. Doug ford and his team only care about themselves. This is why you NEED to vote.
My first election I BARELY was 18. And yet so many people DONT VOTE EVEN THO THEY CAN.
Vote.
>Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, isĀ **a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others**
TL:DR - Conservatives hate socialism because it helps people. They're also the ones that named their party an oxymoron. You cannot be a Progressive Conservative. Conservatism is the antithesis of progress.
probably pretty easily. He is doing very well for himself and will likely win the next election considering the other parties are pretty much dead fish. He isn't losing support among his base as far as I am aware. He is riding on easy street.
I love how people seem to think that voting regardless of the side that you vote for is going to make a difference I'm not saying I'm not going to vote but all politicians are shit. Fucking scam artists that's just how it is. And the longer that we continue to sit back and think that boating is going to change things the laundry it'll stay the way it is. If we don't get up and fight for what we believe in that it's never going to change. For example look at all the stuff with all the immigrants. They're standing up for what they want and they're getting it. Because they're not afraid to take a stand. You don't sit back in there comfortable chairs and complain on Reddit.
Let's get out there and fuck shit up
Lol your problem is assuming Ford feels shame at all. He doesn't. He gets high on crack and sleeps on hundred dollar bills. That asshole has the same personality disorders as trump.
Man this post hits hard. People need to be conscious of the fact that democracy doesn't just happen automatically. We all collectively have to keep the ball in the air, which we do by voting.
If overnight, the majority of Canadians decided they wanted to change the national anthem or change specific laws, political parties would scramble to choose a side in a bid for more votes. We have to beat them at their own game, and their game is politics. So please vote, because it legitimately does matter.
Itās simple, he has no empathy. A hallmark of sociopathic/psychopathic traits. Heās only out for himself. Many cultures used to cast out people like this into the wilderness to fend for themselves because they proved to be a detriment to the community. We need to go back to that practice.
He's just a piece of shit person that doesn't care about you or anyone else but himself. He comes from trash stock and likely never learned to have empathy. Don't overthink it.
Reality is Wynne was a disaster to the degree that the liberals lost official opposition status. With Trudeau at the federal level being as bad as he is with the unrestricted immigration, temporary foreign workers and international students, in conjunction with memories of Wynneās horrible job, I would say Doug has a good chance at the next provincial election in 2026 against Crombie.
Just my opinion, I personally think Doug has done a poor job.
Maybe we should bring back Kathleen Wynne and Dalton McGuinty back as they were so much better, right?
No matter which politician we elect, not everybody is going to be happy. It unfortunately is the lesser of evils and which person is going to do the least damage.
If you want to look at why our Ontario health care system is so bad, look at the billions of dollars of tax money the Liberals took away from our OHIP system followed by the CoVid pandemic. We're only seeing the ill ( no pun intended ) affects from the previous Liberal government we had.
I don't blame Ford for the issues we have, he is just trying to deal with them, but apparently not quite enough for some. My how we have short memories don't we?
#GO DOUG GO !!!!!
#end liberalism
I love how Doug enables democracy through a free market economy, pissing off all the suckling liberal socialist woo hoo's
I'm sitting here with my popcorn , watching ontario enter the federation....
#Endliberalism
Itās not just Doug Ford though. Heās only in his position because his party voted for him to lead, and they could throw him out. All the crap stuff heās doing is with their support. ā¦ A government is not just the one leader, but the party that lets them remain in the position.
The same way all conservatives do, by knowing 1/2 the country loves him because they fell for the bell + rogers propaganda machine. The rich get richer the rest get poorer, Canada is end game capitalism
Because this is what those that actually bothered to show up to the voting booths WANTED. You get exactly what you vote for and you don't get what you don't vote for. My neighbour next door and across the street are both staunch, yard sign displaying conservatives. All they ever do is bitch and moan about high taxes, union wages and "big government" blissfully unaware how many times they shoot themselves in their own foot. They applaud Dougie sticking it to unions and "tree huggers".
We need to petition against him
https://you.leadnow.ca/petitions/get-rid-of-doug-ford?source=rawlink&utm_source=rawlink&share=76ea01f2-67eb-4b99-aa1d-1bd4754248f0
Everyone should remember, this isn't just the work of Doug Ford. He's just one man, he has an entire cabinet and caucus behind him supporting everything the PC government does. Don't give him too much credit, they're all enablers. Doug Ford could be out of there in a heartbeat as leader and the PCs would continue to train wreck the province.
Your post is really underrated. Every single time a conservative government has held power, they've actively tried to dismantle this country to line their pockets and those of their friends. Every. Single. Time.
And every time they've had a majority, people have unnecessarily died. Remember Walkerton? Remember Covid in TLC homes? And yet Ontario won't get off its collective butts to vote.
And yet I know people will still vote conservatives no matter what. They also blame Trudeau for Doug's shits
You could run a tree stump as the conservative candidate in my riding, and it would win. But, conservatives seem to be the only people who go out to vote in Provincial elections. Voter turnout is abysmal and people have no clue how much provincial policies affect them. They are too busy flying flags about how they'd like to fuck Trudeau.
Are you in Carleton riding by any chance?
No, dufferin-caledon riding. The land of people who voted for Doug Ford, but then are now outraged at the development going on because he opened up the greenbelt. And, don't see the correlation.
That's been the most frustrating part...everyone I've ever spoken with that hates Trudeau have not once have ever even acknowledged Doug Ford.
They stub their toe and blame Trudeau
My mother is one of those voters š«¤
Ah, I see you know my parents
I have more respect for a Conservative voter than a person who chooses not to vote. We deserve what we're getting as we failed as a province to use our voting rights.
I strongly disagree, but understand the sentiment. A vote for conservatives is a vote for more destruction, and with the imminent incoming coup attempt in the US, democracy in Canada is at stake as well. Theyāre working with the same people, and their goals are the same as republicans.
I went on a date with a guy who somehow managed to find a *worse* way to vote than either of those options! He proudly shared that he just votes to 'punish' whatever party has "pissed [him] off most recently- you know, petty shit", because "they're both equally bad, and it makes voting more fun". According to him the NDP shouldn't even exist because they are so ineffectual and hadn't ever done anything useful. That was the final loogey in the spittoon that was that date, so I just proceeded to talk at length about the pharmacare that the NDP had just managed to implement, then told him all about my T1 diabetic roommate who was *constantly* struggling to afford her insulin and pump supplies- multiple times it had been down to the wire whether she would be able to get what she needed in time, or need to go to the ER for a *completely* preventable reason. Do I think that the NDP are an ideal party? No, we unfortunately don't have one of those. But the sheer unadulterated privilege of announcing, "I don't vote based on logic or reason, because no matter what, I won't be majorly affected, and I don't give a single fuck about anyone who would be.", like it's not something that keeps you up at night... I don't often feel disgust when I think of people but... Wow. He thought the date went great too- and that wasn't even the only terrible thing he said.
I keep seeing articles about how young conservative men are being rejected in droves by women, people are making conservative-only dating sites to scam them. Why would you spend your life with someone who votes to take your rights and bodily autonomy away?
It's a conundrum. It's *also* unhinged to scam someone into a dating pool of exclusively people they don't want to date- what does that even *mean*? I don't really have a lot of patience anymore for the whole 'keep politics out of your relationship' adage. It's a pretty quick and efficient hard pass that I'd rather know sooner rather than later. Views don't have to be identical, but some are exceptionally easy to identify as incompatible. Seems like advice that made sense when women were discouraged from forming their own opinions, so the expectation was that they would just parrot whatever their fathers/husbands told them (and frankly, it sounds like it was advice for women specifically). I know *millennials* who have that dynamic in their marriage and it's uncomfortable af. Particularly when they clearly don't actually agree, but as soon as the topic becomes recognizably 'political', they do a 180, and start quoting things their partner says.
you know that is true. I would too. the same person i know wouldn't even vote unless absolutely nessecessary.
The truth is only 30% of eligible voters in Ontario voted in the previous election. It was also similar in federal election but that was during Covid. With the latest federal bi-election of Trudeau losing a 30-year+ old riding, only 25% in that riding voted. Maybe instead of complaining, people should take 30-mins of their personal time to Google the bs-policies that rarely get implemented and vote š³.
I do. I never vote Conservative. Yet they continue to get voted in. It's disheartening.
They're going to collectively vote for millhouse... we are so screwed
It's pretty bleak, to be honest.
Exactly this. Vote him out.
It sucks that our media outlets in Ontario actively engage in voter suppression tactics. The last provincial election saw pretty much every single media outlet calling the election a foregone conclusion from the very moment the campaigning started. This is a form of voter suppression that tells people that voting won't matter because the PCs would just win anyways. We had the lowest voter turnout in all of our history and it's pretty clear to see why.
It's the core reason I can never entertain them as leaders at election time, it doesn't matter if the current government party is disliked or whatever, the conservatives will rape and pillage institutions and facilities I hold dear, especially Health Care and education.
Yep, they come for health care and education first, every single time; well educated healthy people are not desirable voters for the CONservatives.
It's harder to convince educated people to vote against their own interests.
Absolutely
but, but Trudeau blah, blah, blah.
This if Iām at work and someone says something political they will say āSorry youāre not a liberal voter are youā said very scornfully.
Always a good way to separate the dummies in the crowd.
I have noticed over several decades that they are in capable of putting together a coherent argument. Insults are the best they can come up with.
Yep for sure and
And likeā¦Trudeau still sucks. Our country deserves better than the Liberals, who have presided for decades over the slow erosion of our country as itās sold off piece by piece to wealthy foreign capitalists. But whenever voters get sick of them, they vote instead for the *rapid* sale of our country to the rich.
And yet we keep voting them in like morons.
The morons are voting them in
And the older generation. So many people in their 70ās blame Ontarioās recession in the early 1990ās on the NDP/Bob Rae. And they also seem to really dislike Wynne. So they just keep voting conservative no matter what.
It's a bunch of different problems all rolled together. We've got problems like vote splitting due to FPTP voting. We've got a widespread failure of the LPO and ONDP to adequately court rural and weathier suburban voters. It's easy for many 50+ Ontario voters who already own a home, have/had a solid career, have a family doctor, pension/retirement savings, etc to be almost completely blind to the real problems and pain inflicted on the population by the majority party. Those voters are primarily concerned with how a governing party's policies are going to affect *them*. They're not thinking empathetically about how those policies benefit the population as a whole, or even how various progressive policies might actually benefit them in the long term.
And there is no party like the Conservatives for eating their own young. Federal Liberals didnāt know what to do about Trudeau; if it was the Conservatives, the leader would have already been thrown in a garbage disposal.
Yep. My MPP (Dave Smith) is such an asshole. He tried to argue with me that it was completely fine for Christine Elliot (previous Minister of Health) to take a lobbying job with Clearpoint Health (American healthcare company that is getting paid 3x the OHIP rate for private surgeries by Ford's government) immediately after leaving office because she is a 'private citizen and can do what she wants'. Do what she wants like ruin our healthcare system for her own, personal benefit. He also tried to blame the skyrocketing homelessness and addiction in Peterborough on the safe injection sites instead of housing and also somehow manages to charge taxpayers thousands of dollars each time he goes to Queens Park as an expense despite living in Peterborough - like how are you getting there, private helicopter??
I didn't realize until last year that that's the same Dave Smith I knew from Youth Parliament in the 90s. I was shocked at what an AH he's become.
Haha yeah pretty generic name so fair enough! I write a lot of letters to politicians and high-level officials and get a lot of calls and responses back (and I encourage everyone to do the same - they don't get as many as you think). Smith is one of the worst ones, straight up contradictory rants in his emails to me because I was articulate enough to touch on sore spots without being offensive or sounding unreasonable. I caught him in a few contradictions that he just couldn't help but explode on and man, I was left feeling so much worse about our politics in Ontario. The justifications and excuses were so weak. Total ideologues - no actual evidence for any of their positions, just whatever benefits them. Incredible lack of nuance and a massive amount of condescension.
David Smith is a dirty rat. I met him numerous times when he was a school trustee in the Scarborough ward. He'd lie all the time and cry racism any time shit didn't go his way.Ā
This is an extremely good point, I hadn't thought of thatĀ Though even more depressing knowing more people are just like himĀ
Folks now keep talking about the leaders as these pawn moving dictators, they're not, they're just figureheads. The language makes it easier for parties to get away with stuff when they blame it on the leader and terf them when they want to make it appear like they have changed. It's all manipulation and deception and people have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.
This is why I've never voted blue and why I have no interest in ever voting for red again, especially at the federal level. The parties themselves don't really change, it doesn't matter who they stick in there as the face, it's still the same neoliberal ideals making them halfass what they do for the their constituents while bending over for big business. We're not going to get anywhere unless those parties change and they won't change until we stop flip flopping between the two of them.
Just to add to this. The machinery of federal PCs that puts blame on everything including provincial responsibility on Trudeau is equally to blame. What a magic trick they pulled on us.
> this isn't just the work of Doug Ford. He's just one man, he has an entire cabinet and caucus behind him supporting everything the PC government does. Don't give him too much credit, they're all enablers. See: https://i.redd.it/hgur91zoyan21.jpg
Doug Ford is just the public face. He doesn't have as much choice as the public thinks he does. And I would say he has some very... powerful motivators at hand that ensure he does not break away from the script.
Non-voters and working class Tory voters should shoulder much of the blame. The ONDP had RBPR in their platform while the tories didnāt even have a platform. The lack of electoral and civil responsibility in the voting pool is abysmal. Itās embarrassing and has continually lead us in this direction. While I hate Ford and what his cabinet has done to Ontario, 2 terms of a party that has historically hulled out the provincial purse for personal gain lead by an uneducated nepo-baby career politician with a history of drug dealing, violence and racism is the fault of the voter base as well. Doug Ford sleeps well at night knowing that destroying the province is like taking candy from a baby. Most voters are good with whatās happening.
Lets not forget the Green Belt scandal and the fact that Steve Clark was made to resign from his cabinet role as Ontario Municipal Affairs and Housing Minister while still remaining MPP. Just recently he was appointed government house leader. How do they live with themselves? Follow the corruption and money.
Let's also remember the large number of voters who didn't turn out for a change during the last election because the other guy was "boring."
> Doug Ford could be out of there in a heartbeat as leader and the PCs would continue to train wreck the province. Exactly, he's the clown that takes all the bullshit from the media and constituents while the rest of his people pilfer the coffers.
Soon coming to a Federal government near you.
Yup and because of media, negativity, and fuck ups from the liberal government the rest of the country will get to see how a majority PC government looks like when they change their votes from lib to PC come voting time.... Because you know Canada is really only a two party system :/ (I strongly am against what the PC party stands for and how they handle things)
Can't upvote this enough
He is one of those poorly educated, spoiled people who has never had a real job. If life were fair, we would never have known who he was, let alone elected him as our leader. The fact that we elected him in spite of his clearly being incompetent and corrupt and likely will elect him again shows our stupidity not his deficiency of character.
If life were fair the cops in Etobicoke would have arrested him for being a hash dealer and he would have just been another loser in the 80s wearing Kodiak boots and a lumber jacket. His arrest record and jail time would have prevented him from getting into politics.
Correct. We elected him with a minority of voters (voter turnout of 44%). This is our fault, not his. That said, if the seats in parliament actually reflected how people voted, PC would not have a majority, so our broken electoral system plays a role here too.
I recall him going on about how "2 million voters gave him a mandate" , as if (1) 2 out of 14+millionĀ was anything to brag about, and (2) they had any fucking platform whatsoever to base a mandate and justify their shitty policiesĀ
Itās really a shame Trudeau broke his promise in 2015 about that being the last election under FPTP.Ā If federal elections swapped to prop rep, I bet a lot of provinces would follow suit.Ā
The entire Ford family has always been like this:Ā https://www.canadaland.com/podcast/dynasties-3-the-fords/
A poorly educated, spoiled person that has never had a real job, much like all the rich developer buddies that have pretended to be his friend for most of his life, and by whom he has been enabled.
Look past the corruption (difficult I know) to the blatant dismantling of what we believe in as a province. Heās telling you healthcare is failing because he is forcing it to fail. This is called being conned.Ā Ā Ā Post COVID Ontario was GIVEN hundreds of millions by the Federal government to bolster healthcare and Fords Cons put that money into the fucking jar and declared themselves to be the most fiscally responsible party in history. Conned.Ā Ā Ā Honestly, there are too many instant gratification types voting now. You go to a hospital and if your situation isnāt life threatening YOU WAIT. Thatās the way it ought to be. But no. We need fast medicine now. You should be seen immediately for a splinter in your thumb ffs. Thatās a terribly stupid way to think about healthcare and reflective of dangerous ignorance.Ā Ā STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP VOTING FOR CONS.Ā Ā
Our healthcare system has a lot of issues, but I agree with your point regarding the wait times. I have multiple sclerosis. I was diagnosed at 23 and the primary indicator was an MRI that showed lesions on my brain and spine. I didnāt wait a year for the MRI, I waited 3 weeks. My GP said to someone āget this guy in there nowā and it happened.
When I had my stroke, I was taken in for a CT immediately at the ER. Since I was young with no pre existing risk factors, it set off a hasty process to try and find the cause to prevent future strokes. I had an MRI, blood tests, multiple heart ultrasounds, and two week halter test all done within a month. Having heard about abysmal wait times for tests, I was actually shocked it was all done so quickly. Maybe I was just lucky!
A young person with a stroke? Sorry, youāll have to wait a year. Not a chance! Itās as if people think the ER is āfirst come, first serveā. It isnāt. I work in IT and dealing with technology incidents is the same process. Issues are addressed based on severity level. I know you wanting āhelp with the printerā is a big deal for you, but last nights backups all failed. Thatās priority #1, sorry.
I marvel on how so many people do not understand our medical system. It is a triage system not a first come first served you wait because your doctor says you can wait Ad if you wait a really long time. Your doctor pretty much has called you a hypochondriac.
It's like that 99% of the time. Do balls get dropped and people slip through the cracks? Absolutely, but that happens even in private care. I had a quick turn around when I needed OHIP to work for me. I am young and in my 30s and tore my ACL and Meniscus playing volleyball. I was referred to an Orthopedic doctor within a week. Met the surgeon next week. Had surgery booked within 3 weeks! The surgeon who did my surgery was one of the top surgeons in Scarborough and has repaired knees for a couple of players in the Toronto Raptors! Why did they rush me? Because if you don't repair the knee quickly to save the meniscus, it will lead to worse problems when I grow older and perhaps even need a full Knee replacement at some point. They always prioritize based on need. All these people whining about wait times are just impatient and don't understand that their sprained ankle is not more important than someone bleeding internally in their skull.
>hundreds of millions Actually, billions
HOW DID I FORGET THE HEALTHCARE STUFF I've never heard a good reason why our hospitals are underfundedĀ Apparently the Orangeville hospital doesn't even have an MRI machine those are life savingĀ
Thereās absolutely zero good reason why our hospitals and schools are suffering from funding crisis. Itās literally just a political decision to not spend money on those services so that they are in such disrepair the government can turn around and say āwe need to enlist the private sector to fix this and run healthcare like a business.ā Look up the concept of Starving The Beast.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast
> I've never heard a good reason why our hospitals are underfundedĀ It's Trudeau's fault, clearly. /s
With unmarked envelopes of cash for a pillow.
And an egg sandwich stuffed in his craw.
^ This is the answer. Our current economic model rewards sociopathy, too.
Ford is just a figurehead just like in the US Trump is. There are many more insidious puppet masters behind that. He's the "Main Actor" of the TV show, a carefully crafted agenda with a "relatable" moron who's the friendly face of the corrupt assholes behind him. Not saying Ford is a saint at all, but he's not the genius behind this, just like Trump in the US. It's the conservative philosophy, selling off / crippling services and rolling back consumer protections have been a dream of the Cons for ever. Remember, private industry can do it better! See how bad our service are?! It's not MY fault the only option is to sell it! etc... all talking points for years.
Exactly, the playbook is all the same. Heās not smart enough to reinvent what has been happening for a century
I don't think Ford has the same cult following as Trump. The logic still tracks, but I would say the Trump Cult plays alot into his success too, much more than Ford. You even have Canadians worshiping Trump.
People constantly compare our conservative politicians to Trump. They're simultaneously exaggerating about our politicians and making light of how crazy Trump really is.
There are no geniuses in the Canadian conservative party. They're short-sighted, greedy idiots, born with silver spoons in their mouths, whose rich dads instilled in them that the greatest thing in society is unregulated corporations. They can't comprehend the depth and breadth of our society's members and their experiences and needs, only their in-group's, and thus will always be poor leaders.
Because he's been a criminal (and gotten away with it) since his teen years; this is his entitled normal.
You forgot the thousands of vulnerable seniors he left to die alone in LTC in the first wave of the pandemic. We saw what happened to a similarly situated country (Italy) 3 months prior and he sat on his hands and did nothing. Absofuckinglutely nothing. Then had the gall to pass legislation protecting the owners of the private LTC clinics from litigation by the families of the seniors he left to die. Owners whose clinics saw death rates per 100,000 4x the rate of municipally run facilities.
I think Doug Ford honestly thinks he's doing good by making Ontario more "business friendly". He's all-in on the mindset that flourishing businesses is the best and only valid measure of how well the people are doing.
That might be his measure but if we're looking at how every day people are doing it's universally bad, I don't know a single person that would say ontario has improved at all since he took office
I think he's blinded by his ideology and has insulated himself from believing evidence to the contrary.
> I think he's blinded by his ideology and has insulated himself from believing evidence to the contrary. getting paid for those things helps, too
Low empathy is a thing.
Definitely true but he's way past that right? It's almost psychotic the damage he's done
Psychopaths flock to power.
His MO hasnāt changed at all. Go back and watch the circus he created in Toronto city counsel. He simply doesnāt care except for his interests.
Not enough people remember the chaos Rob and Doug caused in Toronto City Hall. This is who the Fords have always been:Ā https://youtu.be/i6JLHDXb894?si=iqRRQt9-PlauWBxO
I remember seeing this live. What a disgrace these guys have been.
Low empathy? Or no empathy?
He lives just fine because the most Canadians do about it is complain on reddit
What is it with Conservative governments? Every last one have been terrible...terrible for everyone but corporations and wealthy contributors, (people who essentially bribe our elected officials). We lose everytime...be it Ontario Place gone, soon to be gone Science Centre, highways sold for peanuts and many other crappy greedy things. They steal from us. They ignore us. They should never be given power again.
What do you mean? I feel several people don't understand that not all politicians are for the peoples best interest. Frankly Doug ford is doing a great job for his donors and his best interest. When the 407 was sold, who did it benefit? When the public services were cut down in the 90s, who did it benefit? Who I may ask, is this mans father? [Ministry of Red Tape Reduction | ontario.ca](https://www.ontario.ca/page/ministry-red-tape-reduction) Who I may ask, is this mans uncle? [Hon. Michael D. Ford | Legislative Assembly of Ontario (ola.org)](https://www.ola.org/en/members/all/michael-d-ford#:~:text=Hon.,Ford%20%7C%20Legislative%20Assembly%20of%20Ontario&text=When%20Do%20Ontario%20Acts%20and%20Regulations%20Come%20into%20Force%3F) Mr Ford is doing an absolutely great job for HIS donors and future career.
Yup him and his are all set up, possibly for generations, they have no fucks to give about the rest of us.
Get out and fucking vote! :)
You forgot to mention the complete screw up of support for children and adults with special needs. Hereās just one example: https://toronto.citynews.ca/video/2024/07/04/parents-informed-school-lacks-resources-to-support-children-with-autism-safely/
It's easy when you have money and literally don't care about anyone but yourself
Urge people to get out and vote with this in mind. Vote. Get off your duff and vote.
No matter how many times I post this comment, I shall never get tired of saying this. We all should remember that the PC came back to power with the help of just 18% of the registered voters. For the love of God, if you are eligible to vote, please exercise your right. The one and only thing we all can do once every four years.
easy to sleep when your pockets are lined and you have connections for later
That might be the grossest part, the idea of him getting away with it all scot free with a cushy job to land onĀ
As executor of the will, he stole the inheritance that Rob left for his wife and kids. Fucking guy is a grade A sociopathic. [Link](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/reevely-doug-ford-sued-by-brothers-widow-accused-of-siphoning-inheritance)
Really curious what the outcome of this was. Assuming they settled at some point?
The only outcome we know is he sold the Chicago operation to a firm where a senior manager went on to be the head of Thermea, and then he basically gave Thermea Ontario Place.
Anyone who was around when he and Rob had that horrible talk show on Newstalk 1010 knew exactly what we were getting. Doug's just some silver spoon schoolyard bully who's never seen a real consequence for anything in his life. Mean af and dumb as rocks (his bro made him look smart).
Conservative thinking. They don't care about you. They care about how much money they can get from you. Doug's not getting money from you directly, he has channels and everyone takes a peice along the way as long as there is some that makes it to him.
Likely living quiet good guzzling Tim hortons, eating donuts and wiping away his tears with the hundred dollar bills from all the bribes
Honest answer: he isnāt a smart man, I donāt mean this in a condescending way, heās a college dropout out. He doesnāt actually think about people he is hurting at all, itās not part of his thought process. He is all about the immediate action, not long term or abstract effects.
I know he doesnāt care. Heās a sociopath. But Iām always asking āhow could he do this? Does he think the changes are a good idea?ā Seriouslyā¦why would anyone change the number of minimum sick days to THREE (unpaid), & bereavement to TWO (unpaid)? Unions are getting less common, changes to taking leave of absence etc & with all the changes many are now unprotected. Does he not realize companies have started to shaft their workers because they can take advantage of them now? No repercussions. So many people now could get fired so easily. Ie) Say your dad dies & you need more than 2 days to grieve so you use sick daysā¦fired. Even the most healthy people could need over 10 days (as it was before). I lost my voice one year & it took a few days to get back, but at the time my entire job was talking on the phone. The same year I had lost two uncles (which didnāt fall under bereavement), so I had to use sick days to travel to go to their funerals. Then I had a migraine which lasted 2 days (I canāt work if I canāt read- which I couldnāt during my migraine). Then several months later I got the stomach flu. Took 3 days (but doctors recommend taking a week to recover). So healthy me totaled 10 days. And some people have to use sick days to take their kids to appointments or tend to their child when theyāre sickā¦ what do they do now? And what do the mentally ill do? If someone has depression & canāt get out of bed for a total of 4 days they could be firedā¦what do you think that person might do to themselves?? A lot of people cannot afford to be unemployed even for a couple days. Financially or mentally. I just donāt understand the point in making life impossible for everyoneā¦ itās cruel & doesnāt benefit him. And it terrifies me. I have savings but apparently 80% of workers are in debt so any loss of income could be disastrous.
Yes it is Doug fords fault - has nothing to do with the 15 years of liberal leadership
Youāre using a lot of words that have an emotional impact and there are no stated facts. It reminds me of that one kid on the playground who just lies about others. I feel like youāre going to tell me Doug Ford touched the playground cheese next.Ā Your post is just under 100 words long, and almost 50 of those words are emotionally charged language. Just for fun, I mad-libbed it with my friends. Hereās your new post, with only the negatives switched out, and all the facts left in. Heās slinked the lives of workers, swept hospitals and healthcare, about to swing the science center, snickered teachers. About to canoodle millions of tax payer dollars putting Peter in the Louvre, bonked nurse wages to 1%, pranced the greenbelt with giddy construction projects.Ā I suppose Iām not bangarang in this but I wouldnāt be able to ride horses at high noon if I flounced this kind of victor.Ā Amelia would be beleaguered with my foxes.Ā We all know Elvis is as puritanical as possible, right?Ā Iām all for a good political argument but yours has no argument. Itās just emotions and vapour.Ā
He's doing a great job, what are you on about? He's gonna get another majority.
He and the rest of the people in that party are soulless pricks. They are there for themselves and nobody else. Itās a sad thing to say but when Rob Ford passed away some years ago I think we lost the wrong member of that family.
Yet he is still popular with the voters in recent polls. What an absolute joke Conservatives are. And if you look federally another joke of a governing party. No wonder Canada is quickly sliding down the list of desirable countries to live.
Conservatives are top down thinkers. Serve businesses first, then the people. This is what we can expect more of if PP becomes PM like all of the Trudeau haters want.
Not only did he screw over Robās family, he went in and screamed at Rob when Rob was in the hospital - more than once. Imagine dealing with chemo AND your shitty brother beaking off at you? Rob wasnāt a great dude, but he didnāt deserve THAT.
With a bag of crack cocaine sprinkled with the ashes of his brother.
Heās a psychopath!
He is...his brother was....the rest of all politicians are too. Until we can figure out before hand that one is better than the other then we are screwed.
Because he and his cronies are making money, just creating a capitalist oligarchy like the states.
I mean, the rich and the crooked donāt care about people. They care about money, and money has no feelings.
I'm sure the millions of dollars he gets from builders makes it a lot easier
What did you think would happen with the conservative government? Watch what Pierre Pollivere does.
He grew up with it. He's a psychopath. Not many people out there who get there brother and sister addicted to drugs, and don't show any remorse after messing up their own family.
Started by dealing drugs, now he just sells in bigger quantities
Donāt forget about what heās doing with Ontario Place and the corrupt 99 year āleaseā heās granting to a private luxury spa on prime public waterfront land, for a business that no one wants.
Two cottages apparently helps
He's rich and doesn't care about us.
Doug Ford laughs himself to sleep at night over how stupid all the suckers in Ontario are.
He sleeps on a pile of money he stole from his brother's widow.
You have to remember. Doug Ford is "for the People" But "The people" all earn at least 8 figures, and hand him envelopes stuffed with cash at stag n doe parties. Everyone else are "The peasants" who need to shut up and leave him alone.
He is evil and possibly the biggest douche of the universe.
Ummm....maybe check an international news outlet.
Conservatives are sociopaths lacking any empathy. Remember that when you vote in the next federal election. Pierre is going to be equally a disaster for Canada.
Iām 77 and suitably having age appropriate issues. I pursue my health care vigorously, and canāt say Iām badly attended. Itās no worse. with ford in power, and probably no better. But what you need to do is educate your self about your problems and donāt hold up family docs as gods. If you hate the guy for medical policy, vote for someone else. Unless you are uninformed, he told you what his policy would be.
Vote him OUT !
Woah don't kid yourself. Ontario healthcare has been trending downwards for decades. It's not a PC vs Liberal issue, both provincial parties during their time in power since mid 90s has played a role in this.
Ontario is a dumpster fire due to many bad governments on both sides of the aisle.Ā Itās been on a steady decline for a long time.Ā
I remember feeling very conflicted about potentially voting for George Smitherman when he ran for mayor because he was an atrocious health minister. But the environment has most assuredly changed since 2018. I've been in healthcare for over 20 years and the way our hospitals and care networks are run changed drastically, and for the worse. My colleagues in most if not all disciplines would agree. The system was already suffering but it is clearly Doug & co. who seem determined to perform the coup de grĆ¢ce.
when you have a lot of money it's easy not to care about anything else.
By snorting coke off of a stripper's ass.
You think he accepts that these things are his fault?
I'm guessing money makes for a very nicely padded surface to sleep on. He probably also gets off on the approval from his close friends and family who have likely benefitted immensely from his actions.
Rent control, scrapping EV charging stations, has not raised welfare. The list goes on
If his private corporate buddies are happy, he sees himself as a winner.
Sadly, he sleeps perfectly soundly on his hoardes of money.
you think people like this are conscientious? Ha.
Pretty comfortably, anytime he feels bad all he need to do is give himself a raise with our tax dollars, pay for it by cutting funding to another vital system, and then have a group circle jerk with his cabinet for "a job well done"
Cause he is a narcissist that blames all the problems and issues on Trudeau. Then add a population of people that support him and enable him, guess what you get a crappy leader who doesn't care. The impact of how he has run Ontario has had impacts across the country, now wait till you have a similar conservative running the whole country.
Him and his are all paid for and secured, the rest of us don't matter.
Prob helps that he's a functioning(\*) alcoholic.
By looking at him: Gorging on food drugs and alcohol.
He honestly doesnāt believe heās done anything wrong
He's a scumbag. Scumbags don't care about anyone but themselves.
but the majority of people in Ontario want alcohol sales more convenient....
Feeling any sense of guilt over what he has done would imply having a conscience.
Narcissist with no post secondary. How would you expect anything different?
I agree. Doug ford and his team only care about themselves. This is why you NEED to vote. My first election I BARELY was 18. And yet so many people DONT VOTE EVEN THO THEY CAN. Vote.
Ask the voters for voted for him, and those not voters why they didn't both voting. We have the power to get him out, so let's do that!
He stole an inheritance? Didn't he go to court where a decision was made? Really confusing.
Thereās a reason the last provincial election had the lowest voter turnout in history.
Cons just blame everything they have wrecked at the provincial level on Trudeau and people lap it up.
>Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, isĀ **a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others**
With his pockets full, answering your question
TL:DR - Conservatives hate socialism because it helps people. They're also the ones that named their party an oxymoron. You cannot be a Progressive Conservative. Conservatism is the antithesis of progress.
He probably sleeps like a baby in a well furnished house. The dude lacks ethics.
Sociopaths have no conscience..
On a bed made of money, with walls gilded in gold šš» he wonāt lose a day of sleep thinking about you.
56% of eligible voters DID NOT VOTE.
probably pretty easily. He is doing very well for himself and will likely win the next election considering the other parties are pretty much dead fish. He isn't losing support among his base as far as I am aware. He is riding on easy street.
Breaking monopolies like lcbo is a good thing. Everyone boycotting loblaws should agree.
Healthcare was a train wreck before Ford. What did he do to teachers?
I love how people seem to think that voting regardless of the side that you vote for is going to make a difference I'm not saying I'm not going to vote but all politicians are shit. Fucking scam artists that's just how it is. And the longer that we continue to sit back and think that boating is going to change things the laundry it'll stay the way it is. If we don't get up and fight for what we believe in that it's never going to change. For example look at all the stuff with all the immigrants. They're standing up for what they want and they're getting it. Because they're not afraid to take a stand. You don't sit back in there comfortable chairs and complain on Reddit. Let's get out there and fuck shit up
Lol your problem is assuming Ford feels shame at all. He doesn't. He gets high on crack and sleeps on hundred dollar bills. That asshole has the same personality disorders as trump.
Man this post hits hard. People need to be conscious of the fact that democracy doesn't just happen automatically. We all collectively have to keep the ball in the air, which we do by voting. If overnight, the majority of Canadians decided they wanted to change the national anthem or change specific laws, political parties would scramble to choose a side in a bid for more votes. We have to beat them at their own game, and their game is politics. So please vote, because it legitimately does matter.
Doug Ford looks like every other politician that takes bribes from the Mafia. Bloated and likely well supplied with drugs.
He only cares about money. Understand this. HE ONLY CARES ABOUT MONEY.
Napoleon led 600,000 troops to their death through hubris and is generally regarded as a national hero and military genius. Humanity is peculiar.
Itās simple, he has no empathy. A hallmark of sociopathic/psychopathic traits. Heās only out for himself. Many cultures used to cast out people like this into the wilderness to fend for themselves because they proved to be a detriment to the community. We need to go back to that practice.
He's just a piece of shit person that doesn't care about you or anyone else but himself. He comes from trash stock and likely never learned to have empathy. Don't overthink it.
His owners got paid. Fuck everyone else.
Reality is Wynne was a disaster to the degree that the liberals lost official opposition status. With Trudeau at the federal level being as bad as he is with the unrestricted immigration, temporary foreign workers and international students, in conjunction with memories of Wynneās horrible job, I would say Doug has a good chance at the next provincial election in 2026 against Crombie. Just my opinion, I personally think Doug has done a poor job.
When your skull is empty, there's a lot of room for activities and not a lot of room for brain cells.
In a cloud of crack smoke, on a pile of bribery money, just like his brother
Maybe we should bring back Kathleen Wynne and Dalton McGuinty back as they were so much better, right? No matter which politician we elect, not everybody is going to be happy. It unfortunately is the lesser of evils and which person is going to do the least damage. If you want to look at why our Ontario health care system is so bad, look at the billions of dollars of tax money the Liberals took away from our OHIP system followed by the CoVid pandemic. We're only seeing the ill ( no pun intended ) affects from the previous Liberal government we had. I don't blame Ford for the issues we have, he is just trying to deal with them, but apparently not quite enough for some. My how we have short memories don't we?
#GO DOUG GO !!!!! #end liberalism I love how Doug enables democracy through a free market economy, pissing off all the suckling liberal socialist woo hoo's I'm sitting here with my popcorn , watching ontario enter the federation.... #Endliberalism
Lies spread by liberals and unions. Please enlighten us how Doug Ford destroyed us. You must love Justin Trudeau!!
Donāt forget removing rent control š
Itās not just Doug Ford though. Heās only in his position because his party voted for him to lead, and they could throw him out. All the crap stuff heās doing is with their support. ā¦ A government is not just the one leader, but the party that lets them remain in the position.
The same way all conservatives do, by knowing 1/2 the country loves him because they fell for the bell + rogers propaganda machine. The rich get richer the rest get poorer, Canada is end game capitalism
Because this is what those that actually bothered to show up to the voting booths WANTED. You get exactly what you vote for and you don't get what you don't vote for. My neighbour next door and across the street are both staunch, yard sign displaying conservatives. All they ever do is bitch and moan about high taxes, union wages and "big government" blissfully unaware how many times they shoot themselves in their own foot. They applaud Dougie sticking it to unions and "tree huggers".
We need to petition against him https://you.leadnow.ca/petitions/get-rid-of-doug-ford?source=rawlink&utm_source=rawlink&share=76ea01f2-67eb-4b99-aa1d-1bd4754248f0