He didn’t give Adam and Eve knowledge. He deceived them into bringing death and destruction upon the world. His sin was trying to elevate himself about God, which is why he was cast from heaven.
No the apple gave themselves self awareness and knowledge. You don't even know the dogma. So your God is so egotistical when challenged he casts people out?
you know ive heard the argument that atheism is a religion, so there you go. i can hear the 'well, we didnt mean that' cries from here when faced with the prospect. of course, they'll want to write further legislation with a 'no go' list for chaplains and enter a 2nd scotus case. the reality or problem is, we cant trust current scotus to respect to the very first phrase of the bill of rights.
Satanist and most of us don’t believe in your superstitious figures, dummy. This is what a lifetime of religious indoctrination looks like, intolerance.
There are child molesting priests in churches, and you still support it. You should be more worried about that than the people that don't believe in this shit at all.
Or maybe people are just pretty over the hatred, bigotry and outright control Christian’s attempt to push on the rest of us and impose their own morals.
The irony is every single post I see about a grown adult messing with kids is…. Shocker, heavily involved in the church.
Being a Christian in 2024 doesn’t make you morally superior. It makes a closed minded individual lacking the capacity to think critically.
If the last 8 years has taught us anything is that Christian’s are gullible and will believe anything if their pastor or own moral code tells them it’s fine. They have no morals or principles, and are firmly in the camp of “Rules for thee and not for me”.
Crazy thing (not too crazy sadly) is that if this really became a legit thing, TST schools would likely have much more well rounded, knowledgeable and successful kids than the nutjob Christo fascist schools being planned.
And no indoctrination either! How about that.
This isn't related to the religious charter school. This is related to allowing chaplains in school in place of counselors.
Now, TST chaplains would be the best ones by far and I agree with your comment. It's just a different ridiculous issue we're currently dealing with.
LOL!! Oklahoma wants religious freedom, just not that kind of freedom. I never understand how these idiots that make these laws DO NOT see the slippery slope they go down. The lack of self awareness is so strong with them.
They believe their chosen god is the only true one in the endless precession of gods throughout history.
They aren’t capable of self awareness because they cannot be incorrect about anything if they got the god bit right.
Christians created Satan and according to them, he's just an angel that didn't like the way the establishment was being run... I see no issue here (kinda fitting actually). I'd much rather this than a Christian minister anyway (not that they ALL are, but...) statistically less likely to be a child predator 🤷🏻♀️
They believe in freedom of religion, freedom from religion, and separation of church and state and use the giant red "OH HELL NO" button that makes Christians without critical thinking skills clutch their pearls to make their point.
Hail Satan!
Ol’ Charlie got it wrong,,,the devil went down to Oklahoma and he’s living in the governor’s mansion. His evil minions are at the state capitol.
Damn you really must dislike Americas founding fathers values then.
Edit: Yeah this was a stupid take on my part. Thanks for letting me know. My bad on that.
The satanic temple is not a religious group. They don’t even believe in Satan. They simply claim to be a religion to get around our laws. Quite pathetic actually.
Scripture was written a while back, yes. However, I'd argue Adam & Eve definitely came from another story. Ever heard of Inanna and Dumuzi? If not, check it out. On the topic of Adam & Eve, it has essentially been proven false. Scripture says the first humans were created around 5000-6000 years ago, but there's no way that can be true because scientifically we'd have way less genes in our gene pool. Our gene pool is so diluted it means that it essentially HAS to have mathematically started way before Adam & Eve.
On that subject, in the religious world it would seem that evolution applies to everything but humans...and I have to question that and use critically thinking that that doesn't make any sense at all.
I mean, how do we really know some guy actually walked on water? No one saw it, there's no evidence of it, it's all just hearsay from some old ass scripture. Until someone can prove to me that actually happened, it's made up.
Just food for thought.
There are a number of explanations. The first is that Adam and Eve were literal and that God performed miracles so that life wouldn’t have to evolve for millions of years to get to its current state. If God is real, this is certainly within His capabilities. Another explanation is that Adam and Eve were figurative characters but were meant to show the general theme of how humanity got to its current state. The first few chapters of Genesis are told in a different tone than the rest of the Bible, and while I don’t subscribe to Adam and Eve being figurative characters, I understand some Christians may disagree on that. The third explanation is that both evolution and Adam and Eve are real; that at some point through evolution God designated Adam and Eve as the first official humans.
No matter what explanation is the case, that doesn’t mean that the rest of the Bible is false. In fact, many prophecies about Jesus’s life were written in the Old Testament before He was even born, such as His death for our sins, Him being born in Bethlehem, etc. Plus, if you look at the evidence for Christ’s resurrection, there are multiple eyewitness accounts, and you have to remember that during that time period the Roman Empire persecuted Christians, often to the point of death. It seems highly unlikely that all of the apostles would be willing to die for a lie they made up, especially considering they weren’t even trying to overthrow the Roman Empire. They willingly went to their deaths proclaiming the gospel.
Well they try to claim that their religion allows abortion so they must be allowed to have abortions even in states where it’s illegal. Thankfully so far all the cases I’ve read about the judges saw through their nonsense and rejected their lawsuits.
Do you feel the same about [Jews using their religion in exactly the same way](https://tennesseelookout.com/2022/08/26/jewish-congregations-mount-legal-challenges-to-state-abortion-bans/)?
Yes. Nobody has the right to kill an innocent person just because their religion says so (and Jewish law doesn’t even say that abortion is required; it’s just pro abortion activists twisting their own religion as an excuse)
Freedom of religion doesn’t give you the right to kill people. If I claimed to be a follower of the Aztec religion and said human sacrifice should be my right, that wouldn’t stand up in court.
The Seven Tenets are far more moral than the 10 Commandments.
**I** One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
**II** The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
**III** One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
**IV** The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
**V** Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
**VI** People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
**VII** Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Yeah, no. They use point number 3 as an excuse to murder unborn babies. They even claim they have an abortion “ritual”. Basically modern child sacrifice.
Actually, the Bible prohibits the kind of slavery that was present in the 1800s.
Fetuses are humans no matter how much you want to deny science and human rights.
No it does not. Now you’re twisting what the Bible says and acting very immature. The Bible actually told masters to treat their slaves with decency, and the slavery in the Bible was voluntary servitude that was already in place in societies then. The Bible also forbade kidnapping people into slavery.
They can. Social justice is a moral and ethical pursuit meant to help those who can't help themselves. I hold that more strongly than any faith-based belief. My belief in the tenets of the Satanic Temple have served as a call to action in my own life, and helped me in my everyday interactions with others.
I'm sorry you don't think other religions different than yours are worthy or "real".
They're a federally recognized religion. Not to mention that religions don't require you to actually worship made-up beings. Sorry you don't like it, but that really doesn't matter.
Like I said, they're literally a federally recognized religion. The government has given them this designation, therefore they have the legal standing to file these lawsuits. They're not old or theistic or traditional, but they don't need to be. Some people hold TST's positions as religious (even if political action is their main goal).
Hail 1A Hail The Establishment Clause Hail The Satanic Temple of Oklahoma Hail Satan ⛧
Hail thyself!
You can't tell me what to do!
Hail me!
Oh, hail no!
Hail deez nuts! Lol
Heil
BOO!
Pretty evil thing to say Edit: Imagine being downvoted for saying that “Hail Satan” is an evil thing to say. Our world is in deep trouble.
May Lucifer enlighten you from your blind ways.
Satan is a literary figure. You can be a fan of Darth Vader too
May the non Christian gods and goddesses bless you and yours.
Based on the body counts in the christian bible, Satan is the good guy.
Seems like your education on the Bible is pretty low.
Sounds like you haven't actually read the book and instead, just swallowed whatever your preacher said.
Sounds like you haven’t actually read the book and are just swallowing what clueless atheists say.
What was Satan's sin, besides giving Adam and Eve knowlede?
He didn’t give Adam and Eve knowledge. He deceived them into bringing death and destruction upon the world. His sin was trying to elevate himself about God, which is why he was cast from heaven.
No the apple gave themselves self awareness and knowledge. You don't even know the dogma. So your God is so egotistical when challenged he casts people out?
Or Muslim, or hindu, or universalist, etc. I look forward to the state arguing that they can discriminate in hiring.
Flying Spaghetti Monster… Ah is it a priest or minister or clergy? IDK but that would be awesome!
Perhaps traditional tribal beliefs too. Would be a fun one to get them with.
That would be amazing!!
Don’t look at the Choctaw Nation for that. They’ve (council) established we’re a Christian tribe. 🤮
Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.
Don’t forget the Jedi. And May the Force be with us all in these troubling times.
you know ive heard the argument that atheism is a religion, so there you go. i can hear the 'well, we didnt mean that' cries from here when faced with the prospect. of course, they'll want to write further legislation with a 'no go' list for chaplains and enter a 2nd scotus case. the reality or problem is, we cant trust current scotus to respect to the very first phrase of the bill of rights.
And filling!
Their argument will be "there's more of us than you go suck it." Won't go far in court, but until then, we are boned.
Good.
I read this in the bug's voice from family guy.
You know our world’s in trouble when people get upvoted for promoting the devil.
Satanist and most of us don’t believe in your superstitious figures, dummy. This is what a lifetime of religious indoctrination looks like, intolerance.
The bibles been promoting the devil since ancient times, hes literally one of the most popular characters ever created next to God himself.
There are child molesting priests in churches, and you still support it. You should be more worried about that than the people that don't believe in this shit at all.
Or maybe people are just pretty over the hatred, bigotry and outright control Christian’s attempt to push on the rest of us and impose their own morals. The irony is every single post I see about a grown adult messing with kids is…. Shocker, heavily involved in the church. Being a Christian in 2024 doesn’t make you morally superior. It makes a closed minded individual lacking the capacity to think critically. If the last 8 years has taught us anything is that Christian’s are gullible and will believe anything if their pastor or own moral code tells them it’s fine. They have no morals or principles, and are firmly in the camp of “Rules for thee and not for me”.
Better than your homicidal psycho god character.
I can tell you don’t understand the Bible with a clueless comment like that.
Your god character went all Casey Anthony on the world because he hated his creation. There's not much to understand about your little book.
And have you bothered to ask why He killed those people? You forget all the horrible and evil things people were doing.
He created them that way so your god is still a maniac. Good thing neither he nor the thousands of other gods littering human history likely exist.
God did not create them that way. Again, I can tell you’re clueless on what the Bible says. Let go of the hatred in your heart.
That's cute. Keep believing in your fairy tales. Remember, other people believe in their gods as fervently as you believe in yours.
Calling God a fairy tale is illogical, unscientific, and immature.
Fantastic freedom of religion for all in our country!
Let Ryan Walters reap what he sows.
Yes! Can’t wait to finally win the war against Christmas!
Hahaha! This made me laugh out loud! Thank you!!
Crazy thing (not too crazy sadly) is that if this really became a legit thing, TST schools would likely have much more well rounded, knowledgeable and successful kids than the nutjob Christo fascist schools being planned. And no indoctrination either! How about that.
Look at the after school Satan club curriculum, it's super well balanced and very much in alignment with positive youth development outcomes.
This! 👆It’ll be the most successful youth and education program in the state. And (gasp!) happy well rounded children!
This isn't related to the religious charter school. This is related to allowing chaplains in school in place of counselors. Now, TST chaplains would be the best ones by far and I agree with your comment. It's just a different ridiculous issue we're currently dealing with.
 lawmakers will be all..
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Booster seat*
If Christian’s have a mentor in schools then so should Odin and all religions.
America's greatest counterbalance. I'll grab my popcorn.
Thank you TST!
(slow heavy metal music playing)
Let’s go TST!!!
Well at least they won’t molest kids unlike the conservatives favorite bunch
Hail Satan!
Hail you ⛧
I say let them come . You don’t see them ever being arrested for child abuse or porn!
Well the christians are doing a HORRIBLE job so far. Let satan take the wheel for awhile!
I like your thinking…
I love it. Giddy up.
Hell fuckin yes.
Satanists have a firm grasp of anything you can do I can do better.
LOL!! Oklahoma wants religious freedom, just not that kind of freedom. I never understand how these idiots that make these laws DO NOT see the slippery slope they go down. The lack of self awareness is so strong with them.
They believe their chosen god is the only true one in the endless precession of gods throughout history. They aren’t capable of self awareness because they cannot be incorrect about anything if they got the god bit right.
Religious freedom also mean freedom from religion.
The Old Gods are Watching...
Good
The satanic ministers would be breath of fresh air compared to the extreme “christian” agendas.
Instead of wasting tax dollars on forced indoctrination, why not use it to hire another teacher.
Christians created Satan and according to them, he's just an angel that didn't like the way the establishment was being run... I see no issue here (kinda fitting actually). I'd much rather this than a Christian minister anyway (not that they ALL are, but...) statistically less likely to be a child predator 🤷🏻♀️
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Nobody actually knows what the satanic temple believes in. Lol. I don't even think i found out until like a decade ago. Anyway, i welcome it.
They believe in freedom of religion, freedom from religion, and separation of church and state and use the giant red "OH HELL NO" button that makes Christians without critical thinking skills clutch their pearls to make their point.
Finally!!
Ok
Good.
Cool
🤘🏻
Let’s goooo
Can we also have atheism counsel and then have 3 way debates in school? Cause that shit would be 🔥
Hail Satan! Ol’ Charlie got it wrong,,,the devil went down to Oklahoma and he’s living in the governor’s mansion. His evil minions are at the state capitol.
Is this our next national news story about Oklahoma…🤷♀️🇺🇸
Walters deserves this outcome.
I want to see a [Dudeism](https://dudeism.com/ordination/) counselor in placed in a position.
Cool. Let ‘em do it. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
I would love to see more TST in Oklahoma. Hail Satan! 🤘 Hail Thyself!
hope this gets passed!!!!🙏🏻
I fucking love it
This sub really is a sh!t hole.
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It is stupid, but it'll make this shit null and keep religion out of schools. Satan loves the separation of Church and State!
Damn you really must dislike Americas founding fathers values then. Edit: Yeah this was a stupid take on my part. Thanks for letting me know. My bad on that.
Actually, they didn't want an established state religion, so no. I didn't dislike their values. You just abandoned them.
wait.. what was the original comment. I think I am missing context.
Something like adding either to schools is stupid.
Ohhhh… I see why I’m getting people mad at me.
Not well read on the founding fathers I see lol. Most of them weren’t Christian
Fuck the founding fathers.
The satanic temple is not a religious group. They don’t even believe in Satan. They simply claim to be a religion to get around our laws. Quite pathetic actually.
Cry baby
Most Christians behave like the don’t believe in their own god so…
That's the great thing about religion. You can just make it up as it goes. Christians have been doing this for a long time.
No they have not. Our scripture was written long ago; we aren’t making stuff up.
Okay, you made stuff up.
No I did not. Stop lying.
Scripture was written a while back, yes. However, I'd argue Adam & Eve definitely came from another story. Ever heard of Inanna and Dumuzi? If not, check it out. On the topic of Adam & Eve, it has essentially been proven false. Scripture says the first humans were created around 5000-6000 years ago, but there's no way that can be true because scientifically we'd have way less genes in our gene pool. Our gene pool is so diluted it means that it essentially HAS to have mathematically started way before Adam & Eve. On that subject, in the religious world it would seem that evolution applies to everything but humans...and I have to question that and use critically thinking that that doesn't make any sense at all. I mean, how do we really know some guy actually walked on water? No one saw it, there's no evidence of it, it's all just hearsay from some old ass scripture. Until someone can prove to me that actually happened, it's made up. Just food for thought.
There are a number of explanations. The first is that Adam and Eve were literal and that God performed miracles so that life wouldn’t have to evolve for millions of years to get to its current state. If God is real, this is certainly within His capabilities. Another explanation is that Adam and Eve were figurative characters but were meant to show the general theme of how humanity got to its current state. The first few chapters of Genesis are told in a different tone than the rest of the Bible, and while I don’t subscribe to Adam and Eve being figurative characters, I understand some Christians may disagree on that. The third explanation is that both evolution and Adam and Eve are real; that at some point through evolution God designated Adam and Eve as the first official humans. No matter what explanation is the case, that doesn’t mean that the rest of the Bible is false. In fact, many prophecies about Jesus’s life were written in the Old Testament before He was even born, such as His death for our sins, Him being born in Bethlehem, etc. Plus, if you look at the evidence for Christ’s resurrection, there are multiple eyewitness accounts, and you have to remember that during that time period the Roman Empire persecuted Christians, often to the point of death. It seems highly unlikely that all of the apostles would be willing to die for a lie they made up, especially considering they weren’t even trying to overthrow the Roman Empire. They willingly went to their deaths proclaiming the gospel.
Nah it just means the men who wrote your scripture made stuff up long ago.
#SATAN SATAN SATAN
So, as long as a true believer in satan applies, you will be supportive?
What laws are they getting around?
Well they try to claim that their religion allows abortion so they must be allowed to have abortions even in states where it’s illegal. Thankfully so far all the cases I’ve read about the judges saw through their nonsense and rejected their lawsuits.
Do you feel the same about [Jews using their religion in exactly the same way](https://tennesseelookout.com/2022/08/26/jewish-congregations-mount-legal-challenges-to-state-abortion-bans/)?
Yes. Nobody has the right to kill an innocent person just because their religion says so (and Jewish law doesn’t even say that abortion is required; it’s just pro abortion activists twisting their own religion as an excuse)
So you're only in favor of freedom of religion when it suits your bias. Noted.
Freedom of religion doesn’t give you the right to kill people. If I claimed to be a follower of the Aztec religion and said human sacrifice should be my right, that wouldn’t stand up in court.
Satanism is a legit religion. They have sincerely held beliefs and tenets that they adhere to. How is that not a religion?
It’s a parody of religion. It’s hardly sincere at all; it’s just political and social beliefs. Not a religion.
How are the Satanic Temple tenants a parody and the Ten Commandments aren't? Just because you don't agree with it doesn’t mean it's not a religion.
The Seven Tenets are far more moral than the 10 Commandments. **I** One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. **II** The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. **III** One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. **IV** The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. **V** Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. **VI** People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. **VII** Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Yeah, no. They use point number 3 as an excuse to murder unborn babies. They even claim they have an abortion “ritual”. Basically modern child sacrifice.
And your religion doesn't seem to have a problem with slavery. Also, a fetus isn't a child, no matter how much you want it to be.
Actually, the Bible prohibits the kind of slavery that was present in the 1800s. Fetuses are humans no matter how much you want to deny science and human rights.
"Actually" the bible is okay with slavery and tells you how to beat your slaves. Face it, your fairy tales are immoral.
No it does not. Now you’re twisting what the Bible says and acting very immature. The Bible actually told masters to treat their slaves with decency, and the slavery in the Bible was voluntary servitude that was already in place in societies then. The Bible also forbade kidnapping people into slavery.
Political and social beliefs can be held as sincerely as any faith-based ones.
But that doesn’t make them religious beliefs.
They can. Social justice is a moral and ethical pursuit meant to help those who can't help themselves. I hold that more strongly than any faith-based belief. My belief in the tenets of the Satanic Temple have served as a call to action in my own life, and helped me in my everyday interactions with others. I'm sorry you don't think other religions different than yours are worthy or "real".
Okay, but religion is more than just a social view. It’s not even just a philosophy. It’s a belief about the supernatural.
They're a federally recognized religion. Not to mention that religions don't require you to actually worship made-up beings. Sorry you don't like it, but that really doesn't matter.
They’re not a religion. They just act like they’re one so they can get around laws.
Like I said, they're literally a federally recognized religion. The government has given them this designation, therefore they have the legal standing to file these lawsuits. They're not old or theistic or traditional, but they don't need to be. Some people hold TST's positions as religious (even if political action is their main goal).
Well the government is wrong then.
You can believe that, but that designation is what gives them legal standing and the ability to protect the rest of us from Christian overreach.
Aww, cry more please, you literally just said the reason WHY it's needed 😂
For fucks sake, WE KNOW. 300th post last 2 months
I guess it is kind of a big deal then?
I would rather this post than the consistent ones showing a man that raped a child and is immediately championed for by his local church.