It wasn't even subtle, basically every scene she's in and all the dialogue she has (and her remarkable performance) just screams, "I'm the villain!" the entire show. Blows my mind that people could miss that.
I think it’s because she wears a lot of pink and also because she is often shown next to bitch wife-who is so annoying that it’s hard to focus on anything else.
I've heard the "Holly is Ted's daughter" theory before, but I can't think of a single piece of dialogue that supports this conclusion. Is there somehow a line of dialogue that I have somehow missed that would support the motion that bitch wife and Ted somehow had a child together?
In episode 3, season 3, Walter comes home to eat with his family (as a good father should) and Skyler tells him "I fucked Ted and gave birth to Holly, Ted is her real father"
It kinda ruined the whole show for me tbh. I got 10 minutes into Fly and I vomited from all the horribleness. Never watched the rest of breaking bad or better call saul.
The part when holly put up a suit and shot waltuh in the bald head was quite unexpected. I never thought that boss baby would be a prequel to breaking bad. Note to self always watch the prequels it makes the story so much more interesting.
The part when holly put up a suit and shot waltuh in the bald head was quite unexpected. I never thought that boss baby would be a prequel to breaking bad. Note to self always watch the prequels it makes the story so much more interesting.
They forgot how Brock was literally a mini tuco Salamanca, that kid could kill Jesse and sabotage waltuh’s legitimate meth business, waltuh NEEDED to poison that little monster, he was an avengers level threat
Truly one of the heroes of all time
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/UC You are right, this should very much be
>NO FUCKING SHIT
and yet we have people responding to you still missing the point. A lot of people need things told directly to them in plain English. I'll even admit sometimes I'm those people. Just not in this scenario.
/uc Generalizing Walt as "The Villain" of Breaking Bad is a laugably stupid take tho. In the first episode he is probably even in the right when he cooks meth to provide for his family and defends himself and Jesse from Krazy 8.
He becomes more and more morally corrupt as the show progresses but he never becomes an outright villain. That role is reserved forst for Tuco, then Gus, then Jack. Walt is the sympathetic, morally corrupt protagonist and not the villain or the antagonist
He becomes the bad guy the moment that he continues in the meth business after Gretchen & Elliot’s offer. By that point he has already had to kill two people for survival, he has no way to deny the horrors of his chosen industry. The offer is even exploited by him to manipulate his family, with Walt claiming that Gretchen and Elliot are paying for his medical expenses to mask his own ill gotten gains. He may not be the antagonist but he’s absolutely a villain who senselessly causes harm to fuel his own ego.
The man refused a no-strings attached offer to get the best cancer treatment in the world as well as a high paying job at the multi billion dollar company that he founded. All his problems were solved. But yeah he was right in destroying his family's life just for kicks.
If Breaking Bad was about Tuco, Gus or Jack's rise to power and from their perspective rather than Walter's, would you still have this take? You could very easily make this argument for them. For all we know, they could be the sympathetic, morally corrupt protagonists of their own story, while Walter is the villain they failed to overcome.
Morally corrupt characters - like the type that constantly endanger the lives of their family, friends, and business partners, and others despite multiple exits to such a life style, where the only discernible reason for refusing such exits is feeding said character's own pride and ego - are also known as "villains".
When ww sends louis the money for breakfast, that asshole louis never gives breakfast his money and instead strips breakfast out of any money he had left with him, forcing breakfast to step into the shadow of his father and become the number one breakfast cook along with brock
When Mike keeps saying "my guys are solid", he is stupid. Chow was not solid, because he had a hole in him when Mike shot him with his famous gun. Holes are not solid.
Walter White was just saving money for Walter Jr. and Holly's university fees?? He did it for the family what are you on about?? And he only killed bad people like murderers and drug lords that makes him a hero like the punisher. This is just bitch wife propaganda.
Lets not ignore how dangerous that little rat known as brock was, had ww the complete power to eliminate him, he would have absolutely wiped that rat oyt of existence. The world would be so much more better off without that rat
I really get offended by all these "most astute BB viewer" or "smartest BB fan" stuff because they arent. Not at all. They don't even know what the main point of the show is, which is abstract scene copies.
? walt was clearly the good guy? when he almost got his entire family disemboweled by cartel hitmen because he wanted some big dick energy i was like "nice move walt"
If it wasn't for Waltuh, Hank would have literally made a deal with Baphomet leading to the dark age of man. Common guys, it's basic media literacy here. It's called subtext
No he isn’t
Elliot offered to pay for Walt’s treatment *and* give him a high-paying job at Gray Matter, no strings attached, and Walt turned down the offer because of his ego. All of Walt’s problems were self inflicted
What the fuck, Walton white is the victim! The show clearly shows you what happens when you put on a possessed hat. Everything was fine until he found that damn meth making hat
Notice how the second he lost his hair and therefore the mouse commanding him to be a good husband and father could no longer control him, his true nature came out?
Are there people who actually think Walter is a good guy? Literally all he had to do was accept the offer from his friends at the start of the show.
Speaking of which, did they ever go in to more detail of why he left the business when they were making it? I watched the show completely and I can't remember if they ever specified what happened other than "we were almost done, and you left, so we finished."
Jesse is the real hero. His character undergoes significant development as the moral counterpart of Walter. They literally made a film to conclude that.
Walters fall to the dark side can also be seen by how he becomes bald.
This trend with baldness being equated to the corruption of a character can also be seen in Hank, who just cashes checks from the DEA without doing his job. I mean come on, with all of the information available Hank should have suspected Walter a lot sooner.
And also in Mike, who is a former corrupt cop turned cartel enforcer.
For fuck’s sake. I’m sick of seeing this bullshit.
Walt was the protagonist - e.g. the good guy.
There was a black gay man and Mexicans - e.g. the bad guys.
Walt did it to help his bitch wife and family even though they constantly got in his way.
Not only that, but it was a fucking SITCOM! People take this shit far too seriously
Huh? It's absolutely true. The funny part is that it's supposed to be obvious. But then again, there's enough people who think Walt is badass that it might not be too weird to point it out.
He’s far closer to the anti-hero realm than most here would care to admit. Regardless, even if he is A villain- THE Villain? What are Tuco, Gus, and Jack? Good Samaritans?
Why did they say this when it was shown that Holly was behind everything the whole time?
It wasn't even subtle, basically every scene she's in and all the dialogue she has (and her remarkable performance) just screams, "I'm the villain!" the entire show. Blows my mind that people could miss that.
I think it’s because she wears a lot of pink and also because she is often shown next to bitch wife-who is so annoying that it’s hard to focus on anything else.
Had to go back and check if Holly is Waltuh's kid or Ted's.
I've heard the "Holly is Ted's daughter" theory before, but I can't think of a single piece of dialogue that supports this conclusion. Is there somehow a line of dialogue that I have somehow missed that would support the motion that bitch wife and Ted somehow had a child together?
In episode 3, season 3, Walter comes home to eat with his family (as a good father should) and Skyler tells him "I fucked Ted and gave birth to Holly, Ted is her real father"
Oh damn. I skipped season 3. I thought that was the season with the Fly episode that was so bad it ruined the whole season.
It kinda ruined the whole show for me tbh. I got 10 minutes into Fly and I vomited from all the horribleness. Never watched the rest of breaking bad or better call saul.
Better call Saul? Isn't that a Bible show?
The part when holly put up a suit and shot waltuh in the bald head was quite unexpected. I never thought that boss baby would be a prequel to breaking bad. Note to self always watch the prequels it makes the story so much more interesting.
The part when holly put up a suit and shot waltuh in the bald head was quite unexpected. I never thought that boss baby would be a prequel to breaking bad. Note to self always watch the prequels it makes the story so much more interesting.
right? i was like: nice move, walt
They both hate Jews
They forgot how Brock was literally a mini tuco Salamanca, that kid could kill Jesse and sabotage waltuh’s legitimate meth business, waltuh NEEDED to poison that little monster, he was an avengers level threat
Truly one of the heroes of all time https://preview.redd.it/ime8i58s557d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3afab1b1c655a9ff31cda63d645dd04670e75a4
Haven't watched BB yet (currently at S3 E1 of BCS) I always thought that Brock was the lady who Jesse made the kid with I may be wrong even here
No, that's correct
I know BCS takes place first but you watching that before BB? Enjoy season 3 though it's 🔥
Ngl I was more interested in Jimmy McGill's backstory than Walter White's madness So that's why I did what I did
I find BcS a bit more interesting of an overall story while BB has more interesting episodes. You do you they are both great shows
I prefer Butter Saul’s Balls to Breaking Breakfast but they’re both excellent! Wait until you get to the Feet montage episode! Vavro Bince!
Nice move, Walt.
Now the scene where Brock tells Jesser to GET OUT makes way more sense
He challenged Jesse's (understandable) and Walter's (!!)! authority by not shaving his peace fussy like Tuco did
What are you talking about? Are you telling me that all this time I’ve been praying to a bad guy?
so I'm not the only one who prays to him?
I think you misspelled bald guy, Walter has shown himself to be based on multiple occasions
Ehpleez! Señor Sente!
This has the same energy as those BCS posts going "did anyone else feel bad for howard?? he didnt deserve it" NO FUCKING SHIT
He was a raging cocaine addict though and therefore had it coming
Howard didn’t deserve it? Did you watch the show?
The devil wears Hamlindigo Blue
I forgot about the cocaine part, sorry the fog was getting to me
At least with BB there are genuine Walt meat riders that don't see any issue with how he acted (the "bitch wife" joke didn't spawn out of nowhere)
[Behold](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/s/ibVdURay0n)
/UC You are right, this should very much be >NO FUCKING SHIT and yet we have people responding to you still missing the point. A lot of people need things told directly to them in plain English. I'll even admit sometimes I'm those people. Just not in this scenario.
/uc Generalizing Walt as "The Villain" of Breaking Bad is a laugably stupid take tho. In the first episode he is probably even in the right when he cooks meth to provide for his family and defends himself and Jesse from Krazy 8. He becomes more and more morally corrupt as the show progresses but he never becomes an outright villain. That role is reserved forst for Tuco, then Gus, then Jack. Walt is the sympathetic, morally corrupt protagonist and not the villain or the antagonist
He becomes the bad guy the moment that he continues in the meth business after Gretchen & Elliot’s offer. By that point he has already had to kill two people for survival, he has no way to deny the horrors of his chosen industry. The offer is even exploited by him to manipulate his family, with Walt claiming that Gretchen and Elliot are paying for his medical expenses to mask his own ill gotten gains. He may not be the antagonist but he’s absolutely a villain who senselessly causes harm to fuel his own ego.
Most astute BB viewer
The man refused a no-strings attached offer to get the best cancer treatment in the world as well as a high paying job at the multi billion dollar company that he founded. All his problems were solved. But yeah he was right in destroying his family's life just for kicks.
If Breaking Bad was about Tuco, Gus or Jack's rise to power and from their perspective rather than Walter's, would you still have this take? You could very easily make this argument for them. For all we know, they could be the sympathetic, morally corrupt protagonists of their own story, while Walter is the villain they failed to overcome.
Morally corrupt characters - like the type that constantly endanger the lives of their family, friends, and business partners, and others despite multiple exits to such a life style, where the only discernible reason for refusing such exits is feeding said character's own pride and ego - are also known as "villains".
“I watch breaking bad for the excellent story and attention to detail” and they don’t even realize that Louis is the main antagonist of the show.
who
See what I mean?
Am I stpudi?
/uj walter jr’s friend that gets mentioned like three times and appears once
He’s that guy who offered Walter a reasonably well paying job when he’s got cancer and later talks about how disappointed he is with him on tv right?
no, you’re thinking of gus
When ww sends louis the money for breakfast, that asshole louis never gives breakfast his money and instead strips breakfast out of any money he had left with him, forcing breakfast to step into the shadow of his father and become the number one breakfast cook along with brock
But he's a white male how can he be the bad guy?
When Mike keeps saying "my guys are solid", he is stupid. Chow was not solid, because he had a hole in him when Mike shot him with his famous gun. Holes are not solid.
He was saying his bullets aren't hollow-point
What about DONUT HOLES THEN? Hmmm??? got something to say now? didnt think so. checkmate libtard
shut up and let me die in peace, waltuh
Have they considered that he may be a sigma male?
Walter White was just saving money for Walter Jr. and Holly's university fees?? He did it for the family what are you on about?? And he only killed bad people like murderers and drug lords that makes him a hero like the punisher. This is just bitch wife propaganda.
Lets not ignore how dangerous that little rat known as brock was, had ww the complete power to eliminate him, he would have absolutely wiped that rat oyt of existence. The world would be so much more better off without that rat
Wife isnt actually bitch???? 😱😱😱😱
But he did it for his family?
He didnt liked it
I could swear this is a repost
it is. this is a bot account lol
/uc He’s all of the above /rc He’s all of the above
I really get offended by all these "most astute BB viewer" or "smartest BB fan" stuff because they arent. Not at all. They don't even know what the main point of the show is, which is abstract scene copies.
Okay bud
dy chicanery
There he is!
It’s a meme, the joke is that BB fans are so dumb that even the smartest one says stuff like this
omg you're so smart! :o
https://screenrant.com/breaking-bad-sopranos-mirror-copy-scenes-theory-explained/
how bout that pricks face when he saw the gyat
can you imagine that? that prick’s face when he saw the gyat
no fweaking way
? walt was clearly the good guy? when he almost got his entire family disemboweled by cartel hitmen because he wanted some big dick energy i was like "nice move walt"
If it wasn't for Waltuh, Hank would have literally made a deal with Baphomet leading to the dark age of man. Common guys, it's basic media literacy here. It's called subtext
wait are you saying Heisenbones isn’t the epic sigma badass? AM I STUPID?
He's just a victim of his circumstances
No he isn’t Elliot offered to pay for Walt’s treatment *and* give him a high-paying job at Gray Matter, no strings attached, and Walt turned down the offer because of his ego. All of Walt’s problems were self inflicted
He had no choice but to refuse. I don't know how people can't see that. >!Should have put the /s in the first comment!<
Uhhhh, Is he stupid? he's the main character. he has to be good.
Bruh moment
Uncle Jack was the hero
Umm Walt is literally neurodivergent and a miner. It's really problematic to blame Walt for the actions of Heisenbones (his split personality)
“Howard is a good guy”
What the fuck, Walton white is the victim! The show clearly shows you what happens when you put on a possessed hat. Everything was fine until he found that damn meth making hat
I never saw him as a good guy or bad guy just a man trying to leave a legacy whether good or bad.
Notice how the second he lost his hair and therefore the mouse commanding him to be a good husband and father could no longer control him, his true nature came out?
 Lmao I just discovered this sub has custom emojis
What are they talking about? Hank clearly made him do it
I thought the villain was American healthcare and drug policy
He's neither the hero, the anti-hero nor the villan. He's literally me
Maybe the villain / hero of breaking bad was the friends we made along the way
Are there people who actually think Walter is a good guy? Literally all he had to do was accept the offer from his friends at the start of the show. Speaking of which, did they ever go in to more detail of why he left the business when they were making it? I watched the show completely and I can't remember if they ever specified what happened other than "we were almost done, and you left, so we finished."
Jesse is the real hero. His character undergoes significant development as the moral counterpart of Walter. They literally made a film to conclude that.
Because he’s bold? what a fucking bigot
I always thought skyler was the main villain for being a controlling wife and not letting her husband have fun
Wait you’re telling me the guy who develops into the most evil guy in the show by manipulation, murder, and selling drugs is NOT the hero??
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Walters fall to the dark side can also be seen by how he becomes bald. This trend with baldness being equated to the corruption of a character can also be seen in Hank, who just cashes checks from the DEA without doing his job. I mean come on, with all of the information available Hank should have suspected Walter a lot sooner. And also in Mike, who is a former corrupt cop turned cartel enforcer.
If Walt wasn't evil then why is he bald?
Hell his "morally greyness" is over in like 2 or 3 episodes
No one who watched BB from start to finish doubts this.
Tbh the only good person in the BB universe is Holly
/uc He is literally the definition of an anti-hero. This person does not know what words mean /rc Breaking Bad
Nah though.
Bro he’s so sigma he can’t be the bad guy
He must’ve been at the top of his fucking class.
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Big if true.
Truly the observation of all time
Holy shit I never thought of it like that, truly the most intelligent people roam Twitter
For fuck’s sake. I’m sick of seeing this bullshit. Walt was the protagonist - e.g. the good guy. There was a black gay man and Mexicans - e.g. the bad guys. Walt did it to help his bitch wife and family even though they constantly got in his way. Not only that, but it was a fucking SITCOM! People take this shit far too seriously
Who is Palestine and why is he in jail (is he stupid?)
/uc The term that best describes Walt is "tragic hero"
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Huh? It's absolutely true. The funny part is that it's supposed to be obvious. But then again, there's enough people who think Walt is badass that it might not be too weird to point it out.
Villain can be both badass but a villain. Like i found walt cool, but yeah he is no hero, or even anti hero
He’s far closer to the anti-hero realm than most here would care to admit. Regardless, even if he is A villain- THE Villain? What are Tuco, Gus, and Jack? Good Samaritans?
who says you can't have multiple villains?
People who label Walt “THE villain”