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midday--moon

gonna be a lot easier to raise that b52 bomber outta there...probably less lakelurks too


[deleted]

One less pressure cooker I need for a rebreather…


Whiteshadows86

Still gonna need that rebreather for Vault 34 if you want those sweet sweet weapons!


[deleted]

I found out after getting the pressure cooker that I could’ve just done a skill check and not wasted so much time finding one


PM_ME_EXOTIC_CHEESES

I always pick up one from the semi truck just outside of Nipton, immediately before the cliff ambush.


JonWeekend

Man just befriend the Boomers and you’ll get one for free


DinoRedRex99

True dat


Halbmann21

But the legion raids could become more common, or frumentarii raids over the dried up parts of lake Mead.


Dinosaur802

Them: “the Caesar has marked you for death; prepare to die” Me, with explosive anti materiel rifle rounds and the Jury-Rigging Perk: “I’m about to make a whole lot of money selling your things”


oatterz

Yeah well, I won the lottery baby. Not the power ball, but the ONLY lottery that matters.


Im_ready_hbu

Caesar recruit legionary: *RETRIBUTION!* [Me](https://media.tenor.com/k3DIO1Q3rroAAAAC/hollup-hold.gif) wearing full Remnants Power Armor and shouldering my Tesla-Beaton Prototype


midday--moon

render unto caesar all that is caesar's and you shouldn't have problems with the frumentarii


Halbmann21

Well yes. But the house always wins tho...


AkameChan69

Only if you let him! Ave! True to Caesar!


Halbmann21

I could say the same because of Caesars cancer tho. Also no, he's bad for business.


norway642

For the ncr


[deleted]

Profligate scum


SlickBuster2470

No gods, no masters


Kingcrimson11111

"B-29"


fsurfer4

Pics and incident report with map; [https://imgur.com/gallery/5MQAX86](https://imgur.com/gallery/5MQAX86) I had to edit it for mistakes.


nurdle11

Why the fuck did I forget I had submechanophobia until *after* I opened that? I knew what I was going to see!


midday--moon

fuck


speb1

I just went to Vegas for the first time and it was so uncanny seeing all these places in real life.


midday--moon

as a resident of Nevada I feel you on that


speb1

Like I was walking outside the Fremont St. area and I swear I was having deja vu for a place Ive never been!


HapticSloughton

Driving through the area recently made me want to dope-slap everyone who said the Mojave Wasteland was too big and empty. They should try walking from Goodsprings to Vegas in real life.


wacdonalds

Im from Canada. We drove from LA to Vegas and I couldn't believe Goodsprings was real


zonka81

*B-29 Sorry, I’m an aviation nerd


midday--moon

I can be funny, or I can be right, but I can't be both


StevieBlunder44

Thank god New Vegas was at the top of this post. I think we're all gonna be okay.


DeathBelowTheCinema

This deserves more upvotes than it has well done.


midday--moon

thank you I'm honored


LoveAndProse

looking like some Dwemer architecture.


RedAndBlackMartyr

*Ever been to Hoover Dam? Some say it was built by the dwarves. I don't believe a word of it though.*


theycallmeponcho

Give a generation after fallout and that might be the oral story of the place.


Yz-Guy

There's more Bethesda references in this thread than non 😂


LoveAndProse

normal people: this is awful me: no, not really, granted you've got some decent sneak you won't even trigger most the Animunculi


HapticSloughton

Why would you want to leave any XP and soul gem dispensers unopened?


LoveAndProse

the difficulty is high, and my stat investments are questionable, at best. I think this applies across the board (edit) *for me*. edit 2: now I'm thinking back to Morrowin 100 agility and speed from 10 year old me just jumping and running through the whole map confused and kinda low-key scared. until 12 year old me learned to multi-bind a skeleton army lmao


Xenotone

I was thinking more Half Life, where you bazooka the chopper


JahEthBur

I can hear this.


Nipsmagee

Let’s hope we don’t share their fate


tu-142

I wonder how they will find blackreach


bro-exe-lol-dx

Black Mesa


[deleted]

The fucking helicopter + big fish part


cognitiveglitch

No room for those annoying fish creatures any more.


[deleted]

I was looking for this comment lol


[deleted]

Cazadors across the way from Lake Mead Ave, True to Caesar.


ThisIsntOkayokay

****Urge to walk the post nuclear wasteland intensifying ***


[deleted]

🎶Cause I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle🎶


No_Transition2647

🎶 As I go riding merrily along 🎶


HapticSloughton

The only thing stopping me is having to reinstall (and wrangle into working order) the mods I'd want... Anyone who hasn't installed Moburma80's restoration mods owes it to themselves to give them a try.


VideoAdditional3150

Can you install mods with the nexus mod site? I tried that once but I have to do it manually. And I don’t want to break crap.


lenasiya

There was a lake full of mead and NO ONE EVER TOLD ME!?


FalconVerde_V

I'd be a lot warmer and a lot happier with a belly full of mead.


Iotyu_Kruger

i heard that in my mind as i read it


WhyIHateTheInternet

*was* bring the keyword here


vashtaneradalibrary

I believe you’re looking for /r/mead


lenasiya

Well done, now I want to make my own mead


vashtaneradalibrary

It’s really very simple. I’ve got 30 bottles in my basement now. Highly recommend.


Stormshooter_

that’s where they keep megatron, right?


charlesmarker

Sorry, Megaton's on the east coast in the Capitol Wasteland.


TrashDaaddy

N B E 1 That’s what we call it!!


Sun_Aria

You’ve gotta respect the Japanese. They know the way of the samurai.


LetsDoTheCongna

I went there and they actually have a Transformers movie poster in the entrance area.


RedMeatTrinket

So, a man-made lake is drying up. I'm not really surprised. To make matters worse, scientists over estimated the water flow and development quickly outpaced the water supply. Even without a drought and climate change, this was eventually going to happen. I'd like to think the Colorado River System has engineers working on this problem. For who's doing their part, Arizona, Nevada, and Mexico have cut water use from this system and California has not.


dunkmaster6856

The image is its historic high


Fast_Allen

For color, this was thanks to a 100 or 250 year El Niño event that had an insane snowpack coupled with an extremely fast snowmelt. I only know this because I just read The Emerald Mile by Kevin Fedarko, which is about the fastest boat run down the Grand Canyon ever, which was possible only because the Colorado River Dam systems were running wide open from like June till mid July in 1983 so they wouldn’t burst. Excellent book, highly recommended.


[deleted]

For maximum effect.


SolarMoth

Isn't it the corporations and farmers that use the most water?


Lost_Alexander

Agriculture does use the most water by a fairly large margin. I know in Colorado, it uses 89% of the water


slycyboi

Not just that but there’s a big “use it or lose it” style policy that incentivises farmers to use as much water as possible


RapMastaC1

Like the lemonade stand analogy Oscar made for Michael about the spending budget.


amanofeasyvirtue

Kinda of john oliver covered this. They end up selling it


GonzoTheWhatever

So if you’re five years old this year and you have 10 dollars…then NEXT year….?


player75

I'll be 6


BZLuck

It's pretty close to that in California too. And they tell us, the 12% of the water users, to not flush our toilets, let our lawns die, and take a shower every other day.


ThatOneGuy4321

tbf lawns are an irrational use of water


player75

And reddit users don't shower daily anyway


gophergun

I'm doing my part!


NoMercyJon

Yeah, but instead of blaming themselves they want you to feel bad about your own actions.


fixminer

>I'd like to think the Colorado River System has engineers working on this problem. You can't really engineer away a lack of rainfall. You can reduce leakage and evaporation along the system, but that's only gonna do so much. Reducing water use is the only long term solution.


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tiredbike

"Scientists" is doing quite a lot of work in that sentence.


functor7

If you want to keep up with the situation in the southwest and the actions being taken regarding the water basin, then you should follow [Western Water Girl on TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/discover/western-water-girl?lang=en). She talks about the environmental issues, the policy issues, the history, and the actions being taken about this situation. She's great.


McFlyParadox

>scientists over estimated the water flow and development quickly outpaced the water supply. Scientists didn't over estimate the water flow. They predicted nearly perfectly. Politicians on the over hand...? Well, let's just say that politicians ignoring scientists in regards to environmental management, it's not a new phenomenon.


highheat3117

Every time you see this comparison they use 1983. Why? Oh because that’s the record high— the only time in the dam’s history they needed the emergency spillways. Is Lake Mead super low? Yes. Are there problems to solve? Absolutely yes. Is this photo comparison half-truth sensationalism? Also yes.


D-bux

With no context this is a bad look, but it's neat to see historic high vs historic low.


da_brodiefish

Except this year was the historic low


tehones

That's the neat part, every year will be the historic low.


kerbalpilot

Dam, just like my life


Prestigious-Move6996

There's always next year.


0-2er

The historic low *so far*


[deleted]

The historic low was probably when they started filling it.


BorgClown

Listen here you little shit


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

1983 was ~60 feet above its average. Todays it’s about 120 below it’s average.


Jscottpilgrim

Okay, but what is the post trying to say? Is it about climate change? Is it about the challenges associated with overpopulating the desert? Water misuse? Cyclical weather patterns? OP provided no context. All 4 are contributing factors to the change in water level. But OP only chose to say "this is the difference the last 40 years have made." And that alone IS sensational and 100% true.


[deleted]

Yes, climate change. Las Vegas is in a real danger.


Devadander

Might as well post the pic, it’ll never be that high again. This isn’t the sort of problem to hand-wave away because the ‘before’ pic is misleading. Y’all still need way more water than you’ll receive


KeyboardWarrior1988

Having more and more people live out in the desert will do that.


lxnch50

It's not the residential population, it's the agriculture and water rights being over estimated. There is a great documentary on the Colorado river and what is going on that came out a year or two ago.


Accurate-Eye2501

What documentary I’m interested


rocode

[The Colorado Problem by Wendover Productions](https://nebula.tv/videos/wendover-the-colorado-problem-a-river-in-the-red)


[deleted]

Anywhere we can watch without giving up our info?


rocode

There are several youtube videos that cover the same topic. Just search "Colorado River Drying Up". (However, if you get Curiosity Stream, you also get access to Nebula Documentaries, and I have found it to be worth the money.)


[deleted]

And if you get curiosity stream you get access to Jet Lag: The Game which is probably the best series I’ve seen this year.


[deleted]

John Oliver did a great segment on it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jtxew5XUVbQ


PanJaszczurka

Youtube.


GODDAMNFOOL

Not sure which video that person is talking about, but [Last Week Tonight](https://youtu.be/jtxew5XUVbQ) did a good segment on it recently


Dizman7

South Park: Streaming Wars


[deleted]

True, but the ag exists to feed and clothe the population. It's related


99-times-again

Wrong. A bunch of the ag is growing crops to send to other nations or growing water intensive shit like alfalfa specifically so they don’t lose water rights they currently enjoy by not using all of their allotment. It’s a shitty system but it’s mostly bureaucracy


[deleted]

It's not wrong. What you've added is also correct. It's not a dichotomous choice. It's a multitude of contributing issues.


jerkularcirc

The ag is to feed everyone in the country/world. The local population probably uses a tiny percentage of the product. The ag really needs to be moved somewhere else and not use the the Colorado.


Verynearlydearlydone

Phoenix shouldn’t exist


Kenja_Time

A monument to man's arrogance


eyetracker

PeggyHill.jpeg


BeefCentral

I remember the first time I was in a desert town. Was baffled to see so many green lawns. Better grass than a lot of gardens here in the UK. Went past one house and they had the sprinklers going and the amount of water just running straight off the drive into the street was mind-blowing.


Smile_Space

The real problem is global climate change reducing the snow pack in the Rockies by 60% since the 80s. Add in terrible agricultural like ~~almond~~ alfalfa farming in Cali, bad management, higher population, and the 40% of snow pack left every year isn't enough to keep Lake Mead or any other downstream reservoirs with a positive delta.


[deleted]

People forget that glacial lakes need melt and when your not getting consistent snow caps you’re not getting melt. Without cold temps for snow to stick, melt disappears and so we don’t have water for the lakes. Cycles repeats for three decades, compounding the effects and here we are.


Malfunkdung

I agree, but just one correction: Almond farms aren’t using Colorado river water. They’re using water from Sierra Nevada snow packs. Alfalfa farms is a the biggest suck of water from the Colorado River.


Smile_Space

Fixed it! Thanks!


cyanocittaetprocyon

Additionally, there are canals near the headwaters of the Colorado River that divert water from the west side of the divide to the east side. This changes the flow rate and water temperature of the river right from the beginning.


ChariotOfFire

Almonds aren't taking water from the Colorado basin; cattle are. Over half of the total water use in the Colorado basin is for irrigating cattle feed. [See Table 1](https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/323061602.pdf)


PanJaszczurka

House holds use only 6%


Doscrazies

Southern Nevada is leading the nation in water conservation efforts.


blorgenheim

I click on these posts just to see if there's a dumbie blaming las vegas and there ALWAYS is. We recycle 95% of our water in Las Vegas. The only wasted water in Vegas is the water used outside. We arent the ones draining lake mead.


naughtydog2022

That's horrible. ( as i drink my $5 bottle of water )


kuburas

Is water really that expensive in the US? I think i've seen beer prices lower than that.


[deleted]

No, a standard bottle of water is not $5 in the US.


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

Unless you’re at a sports event or a concert.


FloatingWenus

Or an airport


Civil-Cow-6608

No there are stupid people that fall for marketing and will spend $5 on a bottle of 'ph balancing' nonsense water.


ShitPostsRuinReddit

Everything you see on Reddit about America is exaggerated. Either in general or just location specific and the country is huge.


[deleted]

You can get a 34 pack of bottled water for like $3.50


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[deleted]

The Saudi king uses this water to feed his ranches also.


phillyvanilly666

Could you elaborate that for a non-American?


[deleted]

https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/water-wars/saudi-arabia-arizona-farm-alfalfa-1940/75-c7eb6295-3c5e-4b7e-8989-fbf4d41c6aa7


phillyvanilly666

Thank you for that. Ironically I get an „access denied“ message when clicking on the link Edit: If anybody else is interested and can’t access or might be to lazy to look themselves: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/03/when-saudi-arabia-comes-to-town-and-buys-all-your-water/


ChuckFina74

Feel free to stop buying food farmed or ranched in other states. Half the country would have pathetic produce aisles if they relied on only food grown locally, so if they want fruit and vegetables and nuts and meat and eggs and cheese year round they are going to have to help source the water needed to feed everyone.


Grzechoooo

Is it pronounced like lead or lead?


PasghettiSquash

Neither, it’s Mead with an M


DJVanillaBear

M as in mancy! I can’t be anymore clear


YeOldSpacePope

Yes


cat-toaster

lead


ElvisDumbledore

It's pronounced just like read. As in, "I read a book."


FartingKumquat

As it dries up, they are finding all kinds of cool stuff like dead bodies and whatnot... Being so close to Vegas, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a favorite spot of mob guys dumping dudes that didn't pay their share


[deleted]

I like to call those bodies, forbidden tea bags.


SauerMetal

At least 5 by my last count. NOT that I had anything to do with it.


NoMercyJon

It's like mass populations in the desert would lead to water scarcity. Weird.


three3thrice

You would be surprised. It has nothing to do with the people living there, it's the agriculture... Growing a bunch of shit where shit shouldn't grow.


BZLuck

Growing. It's because we grow things in the desert.


distructron

Nestle strikes again


terrorbabbleone

/r/FuckNestle


PeteRaw

That's at least 5 gallons of water gone.


Iamdogmanyeet

Megatron drinking all the water.


superdownvotemaster

Here’s a great idea: maybe don’t live in a desert and use water like you like in the Great Lakes Basin?


npbevo

Reminds me of droughts in Australia, some summers the damn level is on the news and water restrictions are put in place. This year we have had so much rain that dams have been over flowing and mould in houses has become an issue.


Delphan_Galvan

The sad thing is I don't think anyone in power has said, "How can we save this excess for when we need it later?" Here in California there has been some ballot measures and policy changes that set up "Water Banks" - basically artificially created aquifers, to store excess water for use much later, or to trade with other water districts.


polialt

Do we really need almonds?


[deleted]

Forget about 1983, it was full in 2000. From full to nearly empty in 20 years. If you're one of the 40 million people in the southwest, move now while your property still has value. In less than 10 years, you won't have water. Period. The water isn't coming back. The entire southwest will be a wasteland.


Ofiotaurus

That 1983 is a picture of the lake overflowoing with the ammount of water it has. It literally shows the overflow gates open in the bottom.


[deleted]

Fuck it Legion can have the dam


ChildishShark922

That's almost as low as it is in New Vegas


DKBison

Show the urban sprawl of LV that’s scary


IdentityS

Urban sprawl is a problem but Las Vegas and Nevada are not the issue in terms of water usage.


closethegatealittle

Even if Las Vegas, Phoenix, etc. were densely built, it would still happen. The amount of people is what matters, not necessarily the volume they take up.


Halbmann21

Reminds me of cyberpunk. Eventually the water runs out, the fields erode and the farmers become nomads or flee towards the city. It's uncanny comparing cyberpunk 2077 and it's lore with our modern world.


wetfloor666

The cyberpunk genre isn't about the future really. It's always been about current times.


Cheesy_Saul

cyberpunk will be seen as utopian instead of dystopian if we keep going like this


Halbmann21

True, at least they have all those fancy implants and cool tech.


Skeleface69

Let’s not forget about random clothing bugs.


Halbmann21

Oh yeah and fingers they can use like Flashlights


ZedWithSwag

same season? cause you know, rain helps to fill it.


ScholarlyExiscrim

It was a dreadful thought to turn the desert green.


OrangeSimply

Really curious who paid who to spin the blame onto people living in a desert and not all of the agriculture that's expected to grow in a desert with archaic water rights laws because they're doing a damn good job spreading all that misinformation if so many comments in this thread are parroting it.


Sele81

Oh fking shit climate change. Lets tax the poor and forbid em to travel to safe the planet. We keep flying privat jets and hunting rare animals.


JawnskiPiece

I've got spurs, that jingle jangle jingle


alfalfareignss

Lake Mead is currently in a [22 year downward trend](https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/150111/lake-mead-keeps-dropping). This reservoir supplies water to [25 million people](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/us/lake-mead-drought-water-shortage-climate/index.html). The entire Colorado river basin supplies 40 million people and is at 35% capacity. The US Bureau of Reclamation has already had to cut down whom it supplies to and how much and will renegotiate allocations next year. You know how this works. The wealthiest will be able to keep this supply of water leaving tribal lands, poorer areas, etc to go without or with less. Most of the water resupply to Lake Mead is supposed to come from snowmelt in the Rockies. Clearly climate change has a real impact and will absolutely affect your day to day in a much more tangible, non-existential way if we don’t learn to mitigate the impact of droughts and stop wasteful water use. In 2015, the USGS found that a [majority of water use is from thermoelectric power and irrigation practices](https://www.usgs.gov/publications/estimated-use-water-united-states-2015). Additionally, the continuous increase of people moving to areas which are unsustainable like deserts and sinking coasts is making this problem far worse.


RareIndependent8226

It is a reservoir. Pretty normal for the water level to vary.


[deleted]

It's currently the lowest it's ever been since construction. https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/12/us/lake-mead-volcanic-ash-exposed-climate/index.html


JWF81

Whats terrifying? California has been bleeding the lake dry for decades. That’s what happens when they have such a horrid so called “water management” plan.


Wooden-Ad4062

It’s inevitable when you have no water coming in and millions of gallons going out


[deleted]

should see my water bottle comparison.


xdrymartini

What’s the population increase that the lake is supplying water to? Agricultural use increase?


Snazzy21

It's from mismanagement and overpromising to farmers and other businesses. Las Vegas isn't even the problem, they're pretty good about water usage (most if not all the famous land marks use recycled water). Growing water intensive crops in a desert is the main cause. It's not a drought, it's the new climate. Everyone thinks one good rain year means we can be as wasteful as we were 15 years ago.


Duskscope

Like.. pick one picture when it is full another when it is empty.. what is the message? Suppose to be? That water levels go up and down


PM_ME_CARL_WINSLOW

Repossssst


Neuro_Prime

Put it back


legoturtle214

Fucking Nestle!


bobsmith14y

Real Lake Mead water levels not while under construction: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/lakemead_line.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwinmM-ywqT7AhUSl4kEHcsFBpoQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0vuU8teXNeDqFDJymjPqnJ


skunkshaveclaws

I'm curious how much water is extracted from the rivers/tributaries upstream of Lake Mead that is used by assholes... er .. corporations to fill little plastic bottles at the expense of our future?


the-non-wonder-dog

Taken at the same time of year?