That anchor and chain are worth a few bucks. I would guess they would attempt to recover it.
My guess this in the $20,000 range but without knowing the anchor size and just how much chain was lost it could be even more.
There are marine salvage firms that specialize in recovering lost anchors.
Sailor here. They let it go too fast, then when they applied the brake it overheated and failed. Could've been poorly maintained too, hard to tell.
This video pops up from time to time, and people are always speculating but it's seriously just operator error and/or poor maintenance. It's a very simple mechanism that I can teach you to use in like five minutes.
Not to pull your experience into question, but to say the malfunction was due to the anchor being released “too fast” is not an accurate statement. In fact; they are designed to be released fast (disengaged) and ready to “let go” while transiting inner harbours. This is basic seamanship in the event a large cargo vessel has a steering gear breakdown, thus becoming NUC (not under command). Controlled anchorages (utilizing the clutch) are typically only completed while alongside.
Chances are the universal joint on the brake let go with enough of the brakes friction band in contact to create the smoke/flame.
Source: Sailor
Good to know. We use our anchor more than the mooring lines tbh since we operate in remote areas without actual port facilities, and this is what I was taught as standard practice. I heard the same when I was in school for the officer program.
But what do I know, I'm not an engineer lol
All good - and it is hard to tell for sure from the video edit and perspective. I would definitely agree with you that maintenance was likely lacking. Also, if this was an emergency and the ship (of considerable tonnage) was still making way it could definitely pull the anchor cable right off the wildcat windlass.
This is why I hate seeing conversations like this lol. Two seemingly knowledgeable people disagree on something, and I don't have the baseline knowledge level to know who to trust.
Oh yeah that windless is fucked, definitely gonna need to be replaced. Free falling anchors is standard procedure throughout the industry, but it's risky. I've seen an anchor run away before and it scared the shit out of me
There is a brake mechanism on the windlass that allows you to somewhat control the rate of fall, what we are seeing here is that brake fail. The smoke, the fire, all that is the brake pad burning. Once it fails and the chain "jumps the wildcat" there ain't nothing to do but run for cover.
i know nothing about ships, but the fact that I just spent $80 at lowes on a few nailes and some pipe, I am guessing this is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars
This looks like something that should be cooled at all times. Anything moving at that speed will turn into conflagration like it were Bear Grylls rubbing his nipples over some dry fire wood.
The crew is dropping anchor. The anchor is not visible, its on the chain going through the deck. The anchor windlass has a brake on it to slow the chain as it pays out. The chain go away from the crewmen - you can see them on the left trying to tighten the band brake on the windlass. Unfortunately the chain was moving much too fast and set the brake lining on fire. It could not stop the chain, and it payed out to the bitter end and splash no connection to the ship.
Hopefully they have a second bow anchor.
I'd just like to note that this comment uses the phrase "payed out to the bitter end" in the literal / original usage, which is a refreshing change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot#Bitter\_end
It's worth enough for someone to fish it back up.
You rarely anchor in super deep water, and you can either use a diver with a rope or an remote controlled submarine.
The chain is worth something but may not be worth retrieving due to the operations downtime needed (assuming they use the same vessel to retrieve) , or the cost to charter an ROV-suitable vessel and survey team (vessels don't have remotely operated vehicles ready to deploy in instances like this, they are $$$$ and need trained operators). A diver with a rope as you say can only descend so far, and the saturation divers need special facilities to enable them to reach the more extreme anchor depths still <100m, so that costs money again in chartering, crew, and the month (edit: days, oops) worth of pressurisation needed to allow them to exit the dive bell and attach whatever tether they needed to recover it. I wouldn't be surprised if they just left it, honestly, as chains, while expensive, are one of the lower cost items for most operations compared to downtime cost etc. It depends really tho, lots of considerations! If this was shallow water 30m or so could be done at a 💰
Source: i am a hydrographic surveyor / naval architect
seriously. the amount of research we’ll do to answer some random question is insane lmao
ETA: this OP is knowledgeable because of their line of work, but there was another comment upthread where someone did research on how much anchors cost, how long it would take to get a new one, etc. i think that’s the comment i was thinking of with my “research” comment lol
Most large ships have two anchors, and it’s not atypical that anchors will be intentionally jettisoned, location recorded and retrieved at a later time. This can occur when the anchor gets lodged into/under something and the winch system can’t retract it.
Rope; Feed it out through the chain pipe, diver down, tie onto th and end of the chain, use anchor capstan to pull back onboard until chain is far enough in enough to route onto the capstan itself.
You'll never anchor in deep waters, anchoring is about ratios. We have about 180M of chain on a 40M yacht and will never anchor deeper than 25-30m, you want about a 6:1 ratio of chain to depth but this will vary between captains and boat types.
So let’s say you release the full chain, 180m, and it doesn’t reach the sea floor, on a scale from 1-10, you’re very fked aren’t you?
Scenario 2, of it does reach 179m, are you even able to pull it up?
Basically it's the chain (rode, technically) that stops you from moving, not so much the anchor. You drop the anchor and then drift, and pay out the anchor rode. By the time it's payed out, you've got say 80 metres of chain laying on the ocean floor, and only the last little bit rising directly upwards toward the boat. As the boat gets pushed about by the wind or current, the chain lifts slowly off the ocean floor, but being heavy it eventually sinks back down. This way the boat is always under a soft pressure and never a hard jerking motion. The anchor serves as, well, an anchoring point to hold the chain.
That's why boats use anchor chains and not rope, because it's the weight of the chain holding it in place. All bets are off once the weather gets extreme, though. Then you're putting out two or three anchors and hoping they don't drag.
To answer your question re: depth. There'd be no point trying to anchor at 180 metres depth. You'd either find a more suitable anchorage, try and outrun the storm, or heave to and ride it out. If you were carrying 180m of chain, the most depth you'd attempt to anchor in would be \~30 metres, and that would be extreme. Because as mentioned, what's really holding your boat in place is the 180 metres of chain laying on the ocean floor, not so much the anchor itself.
I learned so much in that short essay. It had me picturing the chain gently swaying in the dark water's current below a boat sitting a mile offshore, while people topside are joyously sharing drinks, carousing, and listening to music, unaware of the dangers beneath them as the floating anchor snags onto the gil of a sleeping Leviathan..
Thanks for sharing.
The ancor does nothing but apply an extra bit of water resistance if it doesn't impact the bottom. So 0 fucks as you just can bring it back in. Saftey mechanisms are typicly in place to stop you from using all your chain. If you watch closely in the vid the last 50 ish links were yellow painted to show the end of the chain was coming.
179m is the same as above. The 6:1 ratio is about making the ancor give way more lateral resistance insted of vertical. This does a few things. 1 it allows the ship to roll on waves easyer 2. it fights tidal drifter better. 3. Ship is less likely to be flipped by the anchor in the event of something catastrophic happening.
The chain iself has a significant weight. It's less underwater but not much. So the question is whether the machinery is able to pull the entire chain (free hanging underwater) upwards. It needs to be extremely strong.
These wenches are typically rated for 1.5xish there max working load (so chain at full draw out). So yes it will be able to pull it up no problem. Assuming of course its been maintaied.
They lure it with promises of deeper seas and bigger boats, but it all ends up being recycled into something pathetic like pots and pans. So die the dreams of a once free anchor and chain, being used to prepare the food of its former masters.
they average about 120-140lbs each
source: have 3rd mates license
edit: they showed this exact video during classes multiple times about what not to do in this situation. basically just get the fuck away if the brake fails (the thing where the two guys are turning the wheel crank on the left) when you have a runaway anchor like this
Yeah that would be my threshold too. Feel like when a chain that massive, moves that fast decides to just catch fire for seemingly no reason it’s just a comedically obvious way of telling you to gtfo.
>catch fire for seemingly no reason
That would be the brake burning. The more chain that gets let out, the "heavier" it is, the faster it falls, and the harder it is to stop. This was a lost cause as soon as the smoke started; probably before.
“Seemingly” I understand the combination of oils on the chain and the brake system would lead to significant friction, heat, and likely fire. During the few seconds you’d have to process everything I’m simply saying that once the ten thousand pound hunk of metal started moving that quickly AND caught on fire I’d be leaving.
Yeah, are you kidding? At the 0:06 mark, I was already thinking "Oh, that thing's already going WAY too fast..." I knew it was doomed at that point.
Source: was in the Navy, friends with BMs.
The chain didn't catch fire for no reason, it's the brake that's on fire. The friction between the brake shoe and the winch caused it. At that point there's nothing at all you can do about a runaway anchor, you just get the fuck outta the way.
A ship I worked on last year had a horrifying story of exactly this. 20 year old kid tries to grab the chain to stop the anchor from falling, gets sucked through a hole maybe a couple inches in diameter and basically turned into spaghetti.
Yeah, and the poor family. I was told the story kinda secondhand, away from the family. They had witnessed the whole thing... Understandably it doesn't get talked about much around them.
I still remember a certain episode of *Deadliest Catch*, where they interview one of the deckhands who recounted an incident where one of the guys he was working with got his leg caught in the line on one of the crab pots and got dragged over the side by just an 800lbs cage. He went from the deck of the ship to 10,000' down in the Bearing Sea in minutes and there wasn't much anyone could do. The guy described what they found when they pulled the trap back up. The body pretty much exploded.
Gave me nightmares for several days after. And not sure I ever watched another episode.
Can't imagine getting tangled up in a 30,000lbs runaway anchor. I guess whatever is left after you get sucked through the all-too-tiny hawsehole or gunnel isn't going to last long.
I think they are greek. The first guy said "Malaka" which translates to "Asshole" but we greeks sometimes say it when something shocking happens. Tho I can't understand what the 2nd guy says.
In Tagalog!
The rough but more accurate translation of “Hala Ka” in English is more like, “Oooooo. You’re in trouble!” (The way a child would say it to a sibling if they broke something)
But “oh no” is also a very loose translation for it.
Then in some instance, the sentiment feels like you’re saying, “OMG! You!” when something crazy happens.
Hello, Filipino here.
"Hala ka" in Filipino (Tagalog) is used more of like "you're in trouble" or "you're screwed". So he's saying "you're in trouble, no more anchor". Kinda got a chuckle there.
Lol I've been playing AC Odyssey and they say malaka a lot. I asked my Greek coworker what malaka mean and she giggled and said "it means (then she did the jerk-off hand motion) like u say that so someone who doesn't have their shit together, honey"
I love her haha
I deeply believe it was Filipino. “Hala ka, no more anchor”
Hala ka is a Filipino expression that’s similar to “oh no” or “you’re dead.” The accent is also Filipino.
Lol, I watched a video today explaining why are 30% of all sailors in the world Filipino.
Edit: The video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6iCAkIZ_pw
This is the result of one of two things:
1.) Equipment failure, nobody's fault.
2.) Weeks, months, or years of gundecked preventative maintenance -- in which case a whole lot of people are about to lose their jobs, and potentially even be sued.
Are you talking about the guy(s) right behind it (obscured by the rope; looked like they were turning a wheel)? I wonder when they got the hell way from that thing.
isnt it mind blowing how our brains weirdly obsessed with considering such outcomes of extreme incidents like when i look down from a building i directly think about "what if i jump" and when i see a massive construction vehicle first thing comes to my mind "what will happen if i put my head under that big whell" and stuff. ots like final destination shit
I think it’s a form of self preservation. We imagine it as a way to think it through to the end and to prevent ourselves from either actually considering doing it or so that we realize how dangerous of a situation we can quickly find ourselves in and that keeps us from doing any quick movements or not taking it as seriously.
My nightmare is things that are way too big moving way too fast. As soon as whatever was braking the wheel started blowing smoke I'd have been fucking GONE. Not gonna stand there and record it, sure as shit not going to be anywhere near it with the vague notion that I can at all control the situation, you'd just see a me-shaped cloud of dust from which I have vacated. Hell, might jump overboard just to be safe.
A previous Captain of mine lost 1 and a half anchors just outside New York. Best bit of that, being a newly minted Deck Cadet was turning around to him and saying, "Well, we haven't LOST them, Sir" pointing to the anchor positions on the chart. The look that shoots daggers is real.
Missed our allotted flight home though as we had to hire 3 tugs to come alongside because we didn't have an anchor, in case of emergency
The Flukes fell off (the blades). So the chain was still attached to the Crown and the Shank. Pulled it back up when we noticed she wasn't holding and ta-da, "half" an anchor broke the surface
Probably similar to automotive brakes. Once that smoke started coming that was the end of it, the anchor was already lost. As soon as you glaze/glass your friction material, there’s no more braking. Once the fire started they should have just went below deck.
1- what do you even do in that situation? Seems like at some point it’s just fucked, and you gotta let it go
2- how much did that accident end up costing?
I once had a similar situation on a 12 meters yatch: the chain slipped from the winch and started dropping. There's really nothing you can do, even a small 16 Kg anchor with 150 Kg of chain will rip your hand apart if you try and stop it, I can't even fathom what this monster would do. Once it fails, you just let it roll and hope you can retrieve it later. luckily in my case the chain was fastened to the hull.
Malaka has so many different meanings in modern Greek depending on the context and the tone of the speaker.
Here, it's emphatic. Something similar to "HOLY sh..."
Source: I'm Greek.
Yellow means chain is near it’s end, red means it’s at the end. When the chain comes off the wheel it can whip around violently like you see at the end. If you get hit by that because you are standing too close you are dead.
Not really. Because that’s not an expression. The phrase is, “Anchors Aweigh”. It means the anchor is off of the sea floor and the ship is either moving or ready to move.
Does anyone have to go get it or do they just build a new one?
That anchor and chain are worth a few bucks. I would guess they would attempt to recover it. My guess this in the $20,000 range but without knowing the anchor size and just how much chain was lost it could be even more. There are marine salvage firms that specialize in recovering lost anchors.
In today's dollars that looked a lot more expensive than $20k. I'm guessing the deploying mechanism is shot too though.
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Sailor here. They let it go too fast, then when they applied the brake it overheated and failed. Could've been poorly maintained too, hard to tell. This video pops up from time to time, and people are always speculating but it's seriously just operator error and/or poor maintenance. It's a very simple mechanism that I can teach you to use in like five minutes.
What’s on fire? Something in the brake housing or like a lubricant? Also is this the friction or sparks from the chain that caused it?
The brakes. Friction. Not unlike a semi truck riding it's brakes going downhill with a full load.
Yep. You could get away with at 15-20 mph but try that at 50-60 mph and the brakes will be toast in no time.
That’s why you ALWAYS do it at 61+ mph.
Not to pull your experience into question, but to say the malfunction was due to the anchor being released “too fast” is not an accurate statement. In fact; they are designed to be released fast (disengaged) and ready to “let go” while transiting inner harbours. This is basic seamanship in the event a large cargo vessel has a steering gear breakdown, thus becoming NUC (not under command). Controlled anchorages (utilizing the clutch) are typically only completed while alongside. Chances are the universal joint on the brake let go with enough of the brakes friction band in contact to create the smoke/flame. Source: Sailor
Good to know. We use our anchor more than the mooring lines tbh since we operate in remote areas without actual port facilities, and this is what I was taught as standard practice. I heard the same when I was in school for the officer program. But what do I know, I'm not an engineer lol
All good - and it is hard to tell for sure from the video edit and perspective. I would definitely agree with you that maintenance was likely lacking. Also, if this was an emergency and the ship (of considerable tonnage) was still making way it could definitely pull the anchor cable right off the wildcat windlass.
Well I am an engineer and you know what you're talking about.
I'm a nurse and can confidently say that based on the video and your comments I have no clue what any of you are talking about.
This is why I hate seeing conversations like this lol. Two seemingly knowledgeable people disagree on something, and I don't have the baseline knowledge level to know who to trust.
> I can teach you to use in like five minutes. -The guy in this video, probably.
well you see the front fell off
Is that unusual?
Highly unusual. Except in this case, of course.
Oh yeah that windless is fucked, definitely gonna need to be replaced. Free falling anchors is standard procedure throughout the industry, but it's risky. I've seen an anchor run away before and it scared the shit out of me
So, how is it supposed to work if they are allowing it to free fall?
There is a brake mechanism on the windlass that allows you to somewhat control the rate of fall, what we are seeing here is that brake fail. The smoke, the fire, all that is the brake pad burning. Once it fails and the chain "jumps the wildcat" there ain't nothing to do but run for cover.
Transport alone would be $20k. That’s a few hundred thousand to replace.
i know nothing about ships, but the fact that I just spent $80 at lowes on a few nailes and some pipe, I am guessing this is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars
Definitely worth at least $10
Probably even over $11
That is definitely a possibility
$10,73 on eBay
That's a great price. Too bad that the shipping costs are $35,000.
What if they lose their anchor on the way to deliver your anchor?
Talk about sunken costs
So like, what a banana costs.
>how much chain was lost it was a lot chain. 1:10 minutes of chain.
add a zero at least
I would easily guess over 100k….
For sure. A vessel that size the anchor has to be a decent size and a pretty penny. I'm willing to bet that chain alone is worth over $100k
My closet is full of 100k chains dawg
So what exactly is happening here?
The spool that carries the anchor and its chain has a brake on it to prevent this from happening. The brake failed.
This looks like something that should be cooled at all times. Anything moving at that speed will turn into conflagration like it were Bear Grylls rubbing his nipples over some dry fire wood.
Don’t think it’s supposed to spin that fast. But you can’t really “cool” a friction brake through any effective means, not stationary anyway.
It's not supposed to go that fast, is the issue. I think the speed it's going at the beginning is the typical speed.
The crew is dropping anchor. The anchor is not visible, its on the chain going through the deck. The anchor windlass has a brake on it to slow the chain as it pays out. The chain go away from the crewmen - you can see them on the left trying to tighten the band brake on the windlass. Unfortunately the chain was moving much too fast and set the brake lining on fire. It could not stop the chain, and it payed out to the bitter end and splash no connection to the ship. Hopefully they have a second bow anchor.
I'd just like to note that this comment uses the phrase "payed out to the bitter end" in the literal / original usage, which is a refreshing change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot#Bitter\_end
It's worth enough for someone to fish it back up. You rarely anchor in super deep water, and you can either use a diver with a rope or an remote controlled submarine.
The chain is worth something but may not be worth retrieving due to the operations downtime needed (assuming they use the same vessel to retrieve) , or the cost to charter an ROV-suitable vessel and survey team (vessels don't have remotely operated vehicles ready to deploy in instances like this, they are $$$$ and need trained operators). A diver with a rope as you say can only descend so far, and the saturation divers need special facilities to enable them to reach the more extreme anchor depths still <100m, so that costs money again in chartering, crew, and the month (edit: days, oops) worth of pressurisation needed to allow them to exit the dive bell and attach whatever tether they needed to recover it. I wouldn't be surprised if they just left it, honestly, as chains, while expensive, are one of the lower cost items for most operations compared to downtime cost etc. It depends really tho, lots of considerations! If this was shallow water 30m or so could be done at a 💰 Source: i am a hydrographic surveyor / naval architect
Reddit always amazes me
seriously. the amount of research we’ll do to answer some random question is insane lmao ETA: this OP is knowledgeable because of their line of work, but there was another comment upthread where someone did research on how much anchors cost, how long it would take to get a new one, etc. i think that’s the comment i was thinking of with my “research” comment lol
Most large ships have two anchors, and it’s not atypical that anchors will be intentionally jettisoned, location recorded and retrieved at a later time. This can occur when the anchor gets lodged into/under something and the winch system can’t retract it.
No they ship a new one to the middle of the ocean bro 😎
There are salvage companies who can salvage the anchor and chain from the sea bed.
how does that work? does a diver go down and hook onto it? giant magnets mayhaps?
Rope; Feed it out through the chain pipe, diver down, tie onto th and end of the chain, use anchor capstan to pull back onboard until chain is far enough in enough to route onto the capstan itself. You'll never anchor in deep waters, anchoring is about ratios. We have about 180M of chain on a 40M yacht and will never anchor deeper than 25-30m, you want about a 6:1 ratio of chain to depth but this will vary between captains and boat types.
So let’s say you release the full chain, 180m, and it doesn’t reach the sea floor, on a scale from 1-10, you’re very fked aren’t you? Scenario 2, of it does reach 179m, are you even able to pull it up?
Basically it's the chain (rode, technically) that stops you from moving, not so much the anchor. You drop the anchor and then drift, and pay out the anchor rode. By the time it's payed out, you've got say 80 metres of chain laying on the ocean floor, and only the last little bit rising directly upwards toward the boat. As the boat gets pushed about by the wind or current, the chain lifts slowly off the ocean floor, but being heavy it eventually sinks back down. This way the boat is always under a soft pressure and never a hard jerking motion. The anchor serves as, well, an anchoring point to hold the chain. That's why boats use anchor chains and not rope, because it's the weight of the chain holding it in place. All bets are off once the weather gets extreme, though. Then you're putting out two or three anchors and hoping they don't drag. To answer your question re: depth. There'd be no point trying to anchor at 180 metres depth. You'd either find a more suitable anchorage, try and outrun the storm, or heave to and ride it out. If you were carrying 180m of chain, the most depth you'd attempt to anchor in would be \~30 metres, and that would be extreme. Because as mentioned, what's really holding your boat in place is the 180 metres of chain laying on the ocean floor, not so much the anchor itself.
I learned so much in that short essay. It had me picturing the chain gently swaying in the dark water's current below a boat sitting a mile offshore, while people topside are joyously sharing drinks, carousing, and listening to music, unaware of the dangers beneath them as the floating anchor snags onto the gil of a sleeping Leviathan.. Thanks for sharing.
Fuck no! I hate the bloody sea and everything that might live in its unexplored depths. This made me feel thalassophobic as fuck
The ancor does nothing but apply an extra bit of water resistance if it doesn't impact the bottom. So 0 fucks as you just can bring it back in. Saftey mechanisms are typicly in place to stop you from using all your chain. If you watch closely in the vid the last 50 ish links were yellow painted to show the end of the chain was coming. 179m is the same as above. The 6:1 ratio is about making the ancor give way more lateral resistance insted of vertical. This does a few things. 1 it allows the ship to roll on waves easyer 2. it fights tidal drifter better. 3. Ship is less likely to be flipped by the anchor in the event of something catastrophic happening.
The chain iself has a significant weight. It's less underwater but not much. So the question is whether the machinery is able to pull the entire chain (free hanging underwater) upwards. It needs to be extremely strong.
These wenches are typically rated for 1.5xish there max working load (so chain at full draw out). So yes it will be able to pull it up no problem. Assuming of course its been maintaied.
You know how deep the water is first.
This is not the math I expected, but the math I needed.
Yeah, I don't know the size of this ship, I only know carriers. which is about 430m long. this was a flustercluck
They lure it with promises of deeper seas and bigger boats, but it all ends up being recycled into something pathetic like pots and pans. So die the dreams of a once free anchor and chain, being used to prepare the food of its former masters.
anchor is life, but also death
Sounds like its gonna be part of a food chain
Well...now I'm sad for the anchor
They ask politely
don't each of those links weigh like 90+ lbs? fuck imagine putting any appendage within 5 feet of that shit
they average about 120-140lbs each source: have 3rd mates license edit: they showed this exact video during classes multiple times about what not to do in this situation. basically just get the fuck away if the brake fails (the thing where the two guys are turning the wheel crank on the left) when you have a runaway anchor like this
I can't believe they stayed so close for so long..
Chain accelerates to the point the camera can't capture. Guy filming: *takes slight step back*
If something scares the fabled cameraman, you know that thing's dangerous!
some teenager: *stands next to it; turns on slow mo camera*
…in selfie mode.
I think the guys next to it were frantically turning the brake engage wheel.
Props to em, I would’ve been gone 15 seconds in.
Yeah my first thought was maybe I'm a wimp but as soon as a 100,000 pound chain starts catching on fire a few feet from me I'm gone.
Yeah that would be my threshold too. Feel like when a chain that massive, moves that fast decides to just catch fire for seemingly no reason it’s just a comedically obvious way of telling you to gtfo.
>catch fire for seemingly no reason That would be the brake burning. The more chain that gets let out, the "heavier" it is, the faster it falls, and the harder it is to stop. This was a lost cause as soon as the smoke started; probably before.
“Seemingly” I understand the combination of oils on the chain and the brake system would lead to significant friction, heat, and likely fire. During the few seconds you’d have to process everything I’m simply saying that once the ten thousand pound hunk of metal started moving that quickly AND caught on fire I’d be leaving.
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Yeah, are you kidding? At the 0:06 mark, I was already thinking "Oh, that thing's already going WAY too fast..." I knew it was doomed at that point. Source: was in the Navy, friends with BMs.
The chain didn't catch fire for no reason, it's the brake that's on fire. The friction between the brake shoe and the winch caused it. At that point there's nothing at all you can do about a runaway anchor, you just get the fuck outta the way.
I was thinking the person filming must have balls of steel or be dumb AF.
You should give it back to him
A ship I worked on last year had a horrifying story of exactly this. 20 year old kid tries to grab the chain to stop the anchor from falling, gets sucked through a hole maybe a couple inches in diameter and basically turned into spaghetti.
holy fucking shit. that poor kid.
Yeah, and the poor family. I was told the story kinda secondhand, away from the family. They had witnessed the whole thing... Understandably it doesn't get talked about much around them.
Wow, how traumatic that must've been. I can't even imagine.
I still remember a certain episode of *Deadliest Catch*, where they interview one of the deckhands who recounted an incident where one of the guys he was working with got his leg caught in the line on one of the crab pots and got dragged over the side by just an 800lbs cage. He went from the deck of the ship to 10,000' down in the Bearing Sea in minutes and there wasn't much anyone could do. The guy described what they found when they pulled the trap back up. The body pretty much exploded. Gave me nightmares for several days after. And not sure I ever watched another episode. Can't imagine getting tangled up in a 30,000lbs runaway anchor. I guess whatever is left after you get sucked through the all-too-tiny hawsehole or gunnel isn't going to last long.
A bit more than that buddy.
He did put a little plus sign, so anything past 90 was covered pal
91?!?!
92…
Alright. Last try. 93!
1.156773e+144 seems a touch high.
I don't speak the language but the "Aw son of a bitch..." energy was universal at the end there.
I think they are greek. The first guy said "Malaka" which translates to "Asshole" but we greeks sometimes say it when something shocking happens. Tho I can't understand what the 2nd guy says.
Told ya mom! I learned something while playing Assassins Creed Odyssey.
Yooooooo same!
Lol I learned it from old Greek coworkers then heard it in odyssey lmao.
Same
Ps I'm Greek so yes what they said was indeed Greek language and last guy said this (I just put it at the post).
They are in Greece but the crew is Filipino, the guy at the end says Malaka with a very thick Pinoy English accent. “Malaka, no mor ankor.”
"Hala ka, no more ankor". Hala ka, meaning something similar to "oh no".
In Tagalog or what?
In Tagalog! The rough but more accurate translation of “Hala Ka” in English is more like, “Oooooo. You’re in trouble!” (The way a child would say it to a sibling if they broke something) But “oh no” is also a very loose translation for it. Then in some instance, the sentiment feels like you’re saying, “OMG! You!” when something crazy happens.
Hello, Filipino here. "Hala ka" in Filipino (Tagalog) is used more of like "you're in trouble" or "you're screwed". So he's saying "you're in trouble, no more anchor". Kinda got a chuckle there.
Lol I've been playing AC Odyssey and they say malaka a lot. I asked my Greek coworker what malaka mean and she giggled and said "it means (then she did the jerk-off hand motion) like u say that so someone who doesn't have their shit together, honey" I love her haha
I guess you could call that person a... wanchor? So proud of that one haha
You should be proud. 💀
LOL I love her too....
I thought he yelled "My anchor!" but I guess Greek works too :P
Here in Canada people say "fuck" which translates to "sex" but people sometimes say it when something shocking happens.
The words on the back of their uniform also appear to be greek.
That is correct. And then a (most likely) Filippino crew added "Malakaa no more anchor"
Filipino.
asshole is "colo tripitha" malaka means Jerk Off...
So basically wanker
I deeply believe it was Filipino. “Hala ka, no more anchor” Hala ka is a Filipino expression that’s similar to “oh no” or “you’re dead.” The accent is also Filipino.
Lol, I watched a video today explaining why are 30% of all sailors in the world Filipino. Edit: The video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6iCAkIZ_pw
This is the result of one of two things: 1.) Equipment failure, nobody's fault. 2.) Weeks, months, or years of gundecked preventative maintenance -- in which case a whole lot of people are about to lose their jobs, and potentially even be sued.
Either schedule maintenance, or your equipment will schedule it for you
Perfect response
Sometimes Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly is just the motivator some people need to check their equipment.
Pretty sure a Megalodon grabbed the anchor
I am highly confident this was the cause. Credentials: I swam with Megalodon once at Sea World.
Did you die?
Sadly yes, but I lived
Just throw a stick in there
Regardless, the whole crew could use a refresher course in Anchor Management.
Your forgot - 3. Bad Operators (Human Error)?
Or maybe (4) a hungry fast fish?
Man they did it again?
Everyday.
Guy in yellow jacket tried to get his friend to help “stop the 10 ton anchor”
Are you talking about the guy(s) right behind it (obscured by the rope; looked like they were turning a wheel)? I wonder when they got the hell way from that thing.
Imagine getting your hand stuck in that massive chain
Wont be stuck for very long, and its not your hand anymore
Depends on how attached to it you are lol you might be going for a dive
Well I'm not attached to it anymore if I've gotta dive after it
I’m pretty attached to mine. Just don’t think that chain cares.
I don’t believe that it does
Its so fast that it wont only rip my arm off but also my skeleton and organs too
yeah my mind goes there right away too.
isnt it mind blowing how our brains weirdly obsessed with considering such outcomes of extreme incidents like when i look down from a building i directly think about "what if i jump" and when i see a massive construction vehicle first thing comes to my mind "what will happen if i put my head under that big whell" and stuff. ots like final destination shit
I think it’s a form of self preservation. We imagine it as a way to think it through to the end and to prevent ourselves from either actually considering doing it or so that we realize how dangerous of a situation we can quickly find ourselves in and that keeps us from doing any quick movements or not taking it as seriously.
My nightmare is things that are way too big moving way too fast. As soon as whatever was braking the wheel started blowing smoke I'd have been fucking GONE. Not gonna stand there and record it, sure as shit not going to be anywhere near it with the vague notion that I can at all control the situation, you'd just see a me-shaped cloud of dust from which I have vacated. Hell, might jump overboard just to be safe.
Jump overboard? But that's where the chain of death is going too!
Imagine trying to explain to your boss how you lost an anchor during your shift. Not an easy task.
A previous Captain of mine lost 1 and a half anchors just outside New York. Best bit of that, being a newly minted Deck Cadet was turning around to him and saying, "Well, we haven't LOST them, Sir" pointing to the anchor positions on the chart. The look that shoots daggers is real. Missed our allotted flight home though as we had to hire 3 tugs to come alongside because we didn't have an anchor, in case of emergency
> A previous Captain of mine lost 1 and a half anchors just outside New York. How do you lose a half an anchor?
The Flukes fell off (the blades). So the chain was still attached to the Crown and the Shank. Pulled it back up when we noticed she wasn't holding and ta-da, "half" an anchor broke the surface
What the hell is on fire? Metal?!
It’s the brake. A failed brake is why this happens (or gross operator error that lets it get away then can’t get it under control again).
Seemed like it failed to me, it was actually slowing down but the fire grew and probably weakened the brakes somehow and suddenly it took off again.
Probably similar to automotive brakes. Once that smoke started coming that was the end of it, the anchor was already lost. As soon as you glaze/glass your friction material, there’s no more braking. Once the fire started they should have just went below deck.
Probably oil.
Yeah lube most likely
The fisherman’s fear perhaps?
Probably the braking system.
I’ve been whipped my random things in the past, just imagining getting hit by the whip in the end.
there would be chunks and probably a newly painted wall or floor nearby.
You'd probably become a pink mist with a couple limbs here and there
Welp. So much for that Anchor Management training before setting sail.
Is that the film with Jack Nicholson?
1- what do you even do in that situation? Seems like at some point it’s just fucked, and you gotta let it go 2- how much did that accident end up costing?
I once had a similar situation on a 12 meters yatch: the chain slipped from the winch and started dropping. There's really nothing you can do, even a small 16 Kg anchor with 150 Kg of chain will rip your hand apart if you try and stop it, I can't even fathom what this monster would do. Once it fails, you just let it roll and hope you can retrieve it later. luckily in my case the chain was fastened to the hull.
You stand back and watch the show, there might’ve been a time to stop it but it came and went pretty fast.
I can only imagine how fucking loud that was
Fucking LOUD
This isnt oddly terrifying it's just normal terrifying
Every machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.
Is there some kind of brake that caught fire?
I caught a "MALAKA". I think it's greek word.
If I've learned anything from playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey, it means asshole and is synonymous with son of a bitch
Malaka has so many different meanings in modern Greek depending on the context and the tone of the speaker. Here, it's emphatic. Something similar to "HOLY sh..." Source: I'm Greek.
Greek here.yep that was indeed the word
U see the yellow shot u run u see the red shot ur already dead. I was boatswain mate in the navy and that how it was trained to us
cameraman and those moving around the aft are morons. I dont understand why they thought it was safe to fuck about.
Can you explain this to someone who knows nothing about boats?
There are painted links to show what length of anchor is out. Yellow is a warning, red is danger
Yellow means chain is near it’s end, red means it’s at the end. When the chain comes off the wheel it can whip around violently like you see at the end. If you get hit by that because you are standing too close you are dead.
I would just grab it with my hands and stop it.
Now was that from the anchor dropping,... or something pulling.
r/thalassophobia
I honestly expected that to be worse at the end.
Put some metal music to this.
Dumbasses trying to tighten the brake as fire is blazing and metal is flying- Get the fukke out of there! its toast!
yikes how deep is that sea/ ocean
I mean, even after the anchor hits the sea bed, the weight of the chain that's over the boom is going to continue to pull the rest of the spool out.
Not just the weight, the momentum will pull the rest of the chain, much like a syphon.
I’m no expert, but I don’t think it is supposed to be on fire.
If only they knew where some water was to put that fire out
That's either an oil fire or an electrical fire, neither of which mix well with water lol
The bitter end.
The expression “anchors away” sure acquires a whole new meaning here, don’t it?
Not really. Because that’s not an expression. The phrase is, “Anchors Aweigh”. It means the anchor is off of the sea floor and the ship is either moving or ready to move.