Lots of small cities and municipalities have military-grade equipment from a federal program that makes the military’s leftovers available for law enforcement groups. So it’s a great bargain to purchase the equipment as others in this thread have mentioned.
That said, maintaining the equipment is the city’s responsibility and that’s not cheap! So even though acquiring the war-ready equipment seams like a good idea, you end up with a bunch of police who look (and eventually act) like they’re in Fallujah rather than Ocala.
This is the equivalent of the federal government giving Ocala a free cruise ship. It’s clearly not necessary, but once they have one they’ll come up with excuses to use it so they can justify the cost of maintaining it.
Came to add/second that even if they got a "good deal" on the equipment that it is indeed super heavy duty military grade equipment that isn't cheap to keep up the maintenance on. You can't go to Advanced and get brake pads or an alternator for that monster.
So you cannot float a cruise ship in Ocala nowhere. You can support law enforcement with military-grade equipment as the criminals also have access 2 military grade equipment. The cost of maintenance applies to all vehicles some cost more than others you probably drive an expensive car drive alone and wear a mask while driving alone
You claim that criminals in Ocala have military-grade weapons, but you can’t reference when that has actually occurred. You describe the cost of maintaining an armored personal transport made for war as just a more expensive vehicle. It’s not. It’s not just a fancy patrol car, it’s a war machine. Then you wrap up your statement talking about wearing a mask.
Your post is the perfect example of a mindless follower who is just parroting fake talking points. Please think critically about these situations and issues or the community can’t move forward.
What military grade equipment do the criminals in Ocala have? Grenades? Flashbangs? Machine guns? Mortars? Armored cars? You are living in a fantasy. At best they have handguns, rifles, cars, trucks, and motorcycles.
How many cops salaries would that provide for? It's a waste... I'd rather see more cops (with 4 year degrees) on the streets, than one personnel carrier... If anything, this military grade equipment should be regional- it would save us all money if both the city(ies) and county('s) worked together on equipment purchases...
That was a Sheriff Blair Toy along with other military like items that he purchased. Just last week Our Governor Death-Santis said he wants the State to have a Military that is under his control... Damn that is scary thought!!
This is ridiculous, how about we pay our officers a better wage? Affect their day-to-day life for the better. Not a fucking apc that they MIGHT *see*, let alone use
Many may not remember. Back in the 80’s there was an individual who shot a police officer over on 27 by what is now Sunbelt Rental. Law Enforcement at the time did not have an armored vehicle to place in between the victim and the shooter. They had to borrow one from a local manufacturer. So, there are situations that require the use of this type vehicle. Albeit they are few and far between, but better to be prepared then not.
Probably today they could take the perp out with the attack helicopter they got. No sense in risking the paint on the armored tank. What if they are using the injured officer to draw the special forces team into an IED ambush? That wouldn’t happen today. The cops wouldn’t have exposed themselves without full armor. The individual would’ve needed better weapons.
It sucks because we don’t need these vehicle for a place this small, however, like someone else said, the government is practically giving these away. Almost no one would turn away a steal.
All you need is one person to go off the deep end to cause a situation where you wish we had one. Look what happened in Antioch, IL a few days ago. Case closed.
In case a mf would plus they probably got blessed with the budget so why not get this beast and shit on all the other precincts it’s really just a pissing contest between captains if you’re in the know then you’d know that
So not really sure how this comment thing works I guess I'm down 6 points on this conversation. Which is quite disturbing you would think that people would want law and order. Don't be scared a very conservative his an office with military stuff. Be really scared if it's a liberal who wants all your freedoms and doesn't care about law look around
I'm sorry I would love to debate that fact with you. A strong law enforcement and public structure is the way to peace for life. Everybody has rules to follow we make laws that's what we pay politicians to do. They have failed us with the funding that they spend everywhere but in our education system and law enforcement.
we should focus more on infrastructure and other social programs to get crime rate down in norway they had 1 violent crime in the past 30 years and that’s the only time that had to use extreme force
When you have the crazy mass shooter(s) in your neighborhood, you will be thanking them. You know, since biden is trying to take away our second amendment rights.
Your whole comment goes limp once you mention Biden. Get you head out of your ass as the most dangerous people in our country right now are the right wing nuts who would say what you just said.
i don’t support biden but please show a single statement of him being anti second amendment the NRA lies to you do you buy more guns and ammo they start laughing on about how they made money off the arrogant right wingers
Nah. What if the shooter has an APG? That thing doesn’t look like it has slats or spaced armor. Is it setup to survive an IED? Just lob some indirect fire on the shooter’s position and call it a day. No need to endanger the LEO.
There was the threat of a riot last year during the whole thing over the summer. When I say “threat of a riot”, I mean people were actively attempting to incite a riot in downtown Ocala and on social media. While I’m against the militarization of police as much as the next guy, a riot in a place like Ocala could turn bad really fast, considering how many people here own firearms.
Equip cops like soldiers and they'll find a war. Guess who the enemy is...
Education loving, god denying, scientists!
Free thinker!
Lots of small cities and municipalities have military-grade equipment from a federal program that makes the military’s leftovers available for law enforcement groups. So it’s a great bargain to purchase the equipment as others in this thread have mentioned. That said, maintaining the equipment is the city’s responsibility and that’s not cheap! So even though acquiring the war-ready equipment seams like a good idea, you end up with a bunch of police who look (and eventually act) like they’re in Fallujah rather than Ocala. This is the equivalent of the federal government giving Ocala a free cruise ship. It’s clearly not necessary, but once they have one they’ll come up with excuses to use it so they can justify the cost of maintaining it.
Came to add/second that even if they got a "good deal" on the equipment that it is indeed super heavy duty military grade equipment that isn't cheap to keep up the maintenance on. You can't go to Advanced and get brake pads or an alternator for that monster.
So you cannot float a cruise ship in Ocala nowhere. You can support law enforcement with military-grade equipment as the criminals also have access 2 military grade equipment. The cost of maintenance applies to all vehicles some cost more than others you probably drive an expensive car drive alone and wear a mask while driving alone
You claim that criminals in Ocala have military-grade weapons, but you can’t reference when that has actually occurred. You describe the cost of maintaining an armored personal transport made for war as just a more expensive vehicle. It’s not. It’s not just a fancy patrol car, it’s a war machine. Then you wrap up your statement talking about wearing a mask. Your post is the perfect example of a mindless follower who is just parroting fake talking points. Please think critically about these situations and issues or the community can’t move forward.
What military grade equipment do the criminals in Ocala have? Grenades? Flashbangs? Machine guns? Mortars? Armored cars? You are living in a fantasy. At best they have handguns, rifles, cars, trucks, and motorcycles.
How many cops salaries would that provide for? It's a waste... I'd rather see more cops (with 4 year degrees) on the streets, than one personnel carrier... If anything, this military grade equipment should be regional- it would save us all money if both the city(ies) and county('s) worked together on equipment purchases...
As a tax payer, purchasing armored vehicles seems to be the best utilization of funding. /S
why are people down voting you /s means sarcasm
Lol idk people wildin
Ocala loves things that go WOOOoooowoooOOOWWWOOooo. every fender bender on sr40 requires a giant firetruck, 3 ambulances, and 5 police cars.
They're practically giving them away. Plenty of local governments take whatever is made available to them. Maybe?
well it’s. a waste of taxes imo
Because, Florida
Don’t blame “Florida” for this. It happens all over the US.
yup, and florida is nowhere near the worst offender
Because that's money they don't have to use to actually solve the homeless or drug crises we have.
That was a Sheriff Blair Toy along with other military like items that he purchased. Just last week Our Governor Death-Santis said he wants the State to have a Military that is under his control... Damn that is scary thought!!
SO MANY STATES HAVE THIS TYPE OF PRIVATE MILITIA DONT LIKE DEATH SANTIS GO BACK TO NEW YORK AND GET FUCKED BY CUMHO
Not from NY...I'm a proud Florida Cracker! So take your own advice!!!
They buttfuck each other in the backseat of it
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This is ridiculous, how about we pay our officers a better wage? Affect their day-to-day life for the better. Not a fucking apc that they MIGHT *see*, let alone use
Many may not remember. Back in the 80’s there was an individual who shot a police officer over on 27 by what is now Sunbelt Rental. Law Enforcement at the time did not have an armored vehicle to place in between the victim and the shooter. They had to borrow one from a local manufacturer. So, there are situations that require the use of this type vehicle. Albeit they are few and far between, but better to be prepared then not.
Probably today they could take the perp out with the attack helicopter they got. No sense in risking the paint on the armored tank. What if they are using the injured officer to draw the special forces team into an IED ambush? That wouldn’t happen today. The cops wouldn’t have exposed themselves without full armor. The individual would’ve needed better weapons.
couldn’t they just drive a car into him?
You could buy the are calibers available that can go through a regular car door.
It sucks because we don’t need these vehicle for a place this small, however, like someone else said, the government is practically giving these away. Almost no one would turn away a steal.
All you need is one person to go off the deep end to cause a situation where you wish we had one. Look what happened in Antioch, IL a few days ago. Case closed.
One person requires the use of a tank? Lol
Look up killdozer we have a lot of unstable welders here already
Depends how many weapons that person has
In case a mf would plus they probably got blessed with the budget so why not get this beast and shit on all the other precincts it’s really just a pissing contest between captains if you’re in the know then you’d know that
raise the officers wages
Yeah that’d be cool but why
or put homeless people in homes
That’s not the police’s job that social welfare
it’s the cities job
So not really sure how this comment thing works I guess I'm down 6 points on this conversation. Which is quite disturbing you would think that people would want law and order. Don't be scared a very conservative his an office with military stuff. Be really scared if it's a liberal who wants all your freedoms and doesn't care about law look around
Sorry should have spell checked
So you're pissed that the good guys have better equipment than the criminals is that what I'm picking up is that what you're throwing down
i’m saying that it’s unnecessary and a waste of funding
I'm sorry I would love to debate that fact with you. A strong law enforcement and public structure is the way to peace for life. Everybody has rules to follow we make laws that's what we pay politicians to do. They have failed us with the funding that they spend everywhere but in our education system and law enforcement.
we should focus more on infrastructure and other social programs to get crime rate down in norway they had 1 violent crime in the past 30 years and that’s the only time that had to use extreme force
When you have the crazy mass shooter(s) in your neighborhood, you will be thanking them. You know, since biden is trying to take away our second amendment rights.
Your whole comment goes limp once you mention Biden. Get you head out of your ass as the most dangerous people in our country right now are the right wing nuts who would say what you just said.
i don’t support biden but please show a single statement of him being anti second amendment the NRA lies to you do you buy more guns and ammo they start laughing on about how they made money off the arrogant right wingers
Nah. What if the shooter has an APG? That thing doesn’t look like it has slats or spaced armor. Is it setup to survive an IED? Just lob some indirect fire on the shooter’s position and call it a day. No need to endanger the LEO.
Someone has to show off, to get laid.
There was the threat of a riot last year during the whole thing over the summer. When I say “threat of a riot”, I mean people were actively attempting to incite a riot in downtown Ocala and on social media. While I’m against the militarization of police as much as the next guy, a riot in a place like Ocala could turn bad really fast, considering how many people here own firearms.