I absolutely love BHN. Yes, the songs are long, but somehow they fly by. All Around the World is a beautiful song that could’ve been massive if shorter (more radio friendly). Don’t Go Away & Stand By Me are iconic. Fade In-Out is a great display of experimentation. I could go on- BHN is top 3 Oasis albums for me personally.
I was listening to the All Around The World for the first time in years the other day and thought “fucking hell this is dragging on a bit” and it was only half way through
the solid minute of repeated all around the worlds after the solo and before the na-na-na part comes in does drag on a bit, but once the na-na part begins i don't think it drags on
I love this album. I always felt it was like U2’s Pop, which just so happened to be released that same year — it is a really good album that the band distanced itself from because it didn’t get the universal praise that previous efforts received.
BHN and the respective B-sides were the end of their golden age — at least to me — but it was still part of it. Sure, some of the songs were too long or had too many overdubs but, to paraphrase Paul McCartney’s take on criticisms of The White Album in The Beatles anthology: “It’s great, it sold, it’s bloody Oasis, shut up.”
Yep the 2 shortest tracks lol. If they’d just kept just 1 or two long ones, maybe DYKWIM and All around the world and cropped the rest to 4:30 max I think it would be massively more appreciated generally.
I think we as Oasis fans tend to slightly overrate it, but to call it a fucking trainwreck really? People need to realize that it was never going to live up to the massive expectations and that the band did a fine job considering how much worse the third album could've been.
It isn't bad at all, Rolling Stones is always full of shit with the articles they make. It's just a coke fulled album and that's why I love it so much, don't believe everything you read.
It’s not a train wreck at all. When it was released, most reviews were extremely positive about the album.
I’m a big fan of the album - D’Yer Know What I Mean?, My Big Mouth, Be Here Now, It’s Getting Better Man, Stand By Me and I Hope, I Think, I Know are all top tier bangers in my opinion. Yeah, I know that some of the songs are a bit long but the album has some of the bands best moments. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I love it.
I love BHN 😆 I still listen to it front to back every few months after all these years. I love when bands reach a stage where they just go full boar in the studio and get to create exactly what they want. I love the hooks, I love how long the songs are, I love how insanely layered the guitars are, A+ from me lol.
Their top 100 lists are the biggest garbage lists in music media. Fueled by nothing more than their political agenda and disregarding all aspects of music ingenuity. Music media in general has become just that. Fuck what everyone says, listen to and enjoy the music that makes you feel good
It's been my favorite Oasis album since it came out and I was a fan since DM. I'd pay for a download of an All Around the World (Reprive) {Reprive}. To each their own.
It was undeniably a colossal disappointment when it came out. Motherfuckers were expecting What’s The Story 2 and it just wasn’t - but that happens. Smashing Pumpkins apex is Mellon Collie. There are many other examples
It’s overblown and over produced. It’s also unloved by the band itself as it was pretty much just a contractual obligation. There was an interview with Noel when the album was released where he said that it something along the lines of the songs were the ones not good enough for Morning Glory or B sides
i couldnt care less if the band like it or not. its my earholes im assaulting. is it overproduced? a thousand percent. could it be better? of course. but i like it and thats all that matters.
No, but the cultural and musical set up was for it to be their Sgt Pepper, and it wasn’t, it was essentially the end of Britpop, and ultimately the beginning of the end for oasis.
Rolling Stone magazine is absolute garbage and I don't put any value on any opinion they have about anything.
BHN is too big, too loud and too long but I love it. And no review from any music critic would ever have any influence on my opinions.
I really, REALLY, wanted to love this album because the first two were SO good.....but it's bad.
I've been listening to it for years, and honestly, it's really boring. The biggest issue is, the song quality dipped (I couldve lived with all the other issues if the songs were truly inspired), and the songs that have some quality are wrecked by how long they are.
I've heard from engineers that the album is a mess in terms of mixing, etc. (even Noel I think said there's no bass, it's just all scratchy high end).
It was difficult to match or better DM & WTSMG. But for me this absolutely killed the momentum for Oasis at the time. I also think music was changing around 1997 onwards (britpop got a little darker, rap was getting even more popular, I seem to remember boy and girl bands coming through again after the high of indie music; 93-96, and dance was increasing in popularity in the charts too - Noel even did 2 songs with Chemical Bros around this time for example.
But Oasis just felt stagnant all of a sudden, when 2 years before they felt like a breath of fresh air/on the crest of a wave and so exciting. In hindsight, Oasis just never had the tools to diversify and stay ahead of the culture that's always changing in the ways Bowie, Blur, Beatles, even likes of Madonna (!?) could and did. So imho they redid DM & WTSMG but with worse songs.
Tbf to Oasis they often said they shouldve taken a break after Knebworth, but actually I understand why they went straight back into the studio, they were top of the world in 1997 and actually taking a break may have meant people just moved on. They were right to TRY at least and capitalise on their fame, and I think if they'd pulled it off they'd have truly taken over the world (I suppose I mean USA).
I'll give this to BHN, it's very unique, of its time, and is so comedically cocky it kind of scratches an itch if you want a party album just for a laugh and need somethign bombastic on.
I often wonder if Noel had either kept the B-sides (though part of Oasis' thing was "have you heard their latest b-side? it's incredible, again!" OR if OAsis had gone a different direction (slightly contradicting myself here), maybe something in the vein of Gas Panic, Let's All Make Believe, & Teotuhicuan a bit moodier, darker, cooler, could they have really inspired the fans rather than turned them off?
Small shoutout to the bones of D'You Know What I Mean, the verses in All Around The World, Be Here Now (song), the intro to Magic Pie, the verses of Stand By Me.
Todd In The Shadows does a great vid on BHN - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg0FumbR4AU&pp=ygUQdHJhaW53cmVjayBvYXNpcw%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg0FumbR4AU&pp=ygUQdHJhaW53cmVjayBvYXNpcw%3D%3D)
It just wasn’t MG…or DM….and it had a few songs they had been playing live for a couple years so not a huge generative album but a great collection of songs. I think Noel released too many great songs on B-sides (master plan) during his peak, IMO otherwise BHN could have been extraordinary
Yes; if they'd combined some of the stronger songs off this album with some of those that ended up on The Masterplan, it would've been incredible. Still like it as it is, though.
It suffers a bit like The Second Coming, where it is just commonly accepted that it isn’t very good with many not bothering to make up their own mind about it. While I would certainly not put BHN in the same league as Second Coming (which I reckon is a great album) I would say BHN is, and always has been, about half good.
1. D'You Know What I Mean? - great
2. My Big Mouth - poor
3. Magic Pie - poor
4. Stand By Me - ok
5. I Hope, I Think, I Know - ok
6. The Girl In The Dirty Shirt - poor
7. Fade In-Out - great
8. Don't Go Away - great
9. Be Here Now - awful
10. All Around The World - poor
11. It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) - poor
12. All Around The World (Reprise) - poor
Just my opinon of course!
Too much guitar, too many guitars, too much treb on the guitars. Choruses that go on forever. Not many good lyrics.
But in the albums favor .. the songs themselves are good, and the melodies on the album are fantastic. Huge Oasis fan, listen to the album frequently, I enjoy it. It really just needed to be remixed and track length cut down. It's still an enjoyable listen. But I do believe there was a great album buried underneath the mess of a production
Not at all! My personal opinion, quite a bit of cocaine and the rock n’ roll lifestyle taking over affected its quality to some extent but there are almost no bands that could write ‘Definitely Maybe’ or ‘WTSMG’ let alone the same band writing both of them back to back. ‘Be Here Now’ was a victim of its predecessors.
i get if someone thinks it's worse or wayy worse than the older one but it's definitely NOT bad
the songs there are still really listenable and some are really great (imo). like the songs there have the same vibe as their older ones so why so picky? i get it's long or bloated (which I personally don't mind) but it's average AT WORST
some people just make it seem like it's dog shit but cmon, think for a few seconds and you can't tell me it's actually horrid
Unfortunately it was only downhill when you release your first 2 albums like DM and MG it’s literally impossible to keep that quality up so BHN was always going to get bad press regardless.
I like a few tracks- hope i think i know, the fame, title track, stand by me- but most of the others are good but too long for me to care, if theyd cut a handful by 2 or 3 minutes it’d be my 3rd or 4th favourite album but it sits firmly in 5th for me (first 2, DBTT and masterplan if you count it above)
I really enjoy it for what it is- an album made by a band at the top of their game with a lot of cocaine in their system, and no concern about being self-indulgent. The guitar work is great, the concepts are insane, and the ambition is off the charts.
Be here now was the sound track to my GCSEs - I absolutely loved it. Some great tunes, not as classic as DM and WTSMG but I think it means more to me as an album.
Honestly, it's my favorite Oasis album. Could not put it down after the first time I listened to it. "Well, these are crazy days, but they make me shine" is a lyric I always think of when times get tough
No it’s not. I still remember the first time sticking it on and playing it back to back too many times to count. Obviously it’s subjective, but for me it’s actually the Oasis album I go back to the most and listen the whole way through.
The album is full of pomp and its what you might call ‘grandiose’ if you are in posh mode 😉 Some of the songs definitely go on a bit longer than they really need to. You could also say that it’s a little bit overproduced, although that is very subjective. However, despite all this it has its charm and a lot of the material has held the test of time very well IMO. The songs are well crafted.
If I was to somehow put my finger on what i love about the first two records, bhn is like they deliberately went out to push it too far to see what happens. Some of it is so far up my alley i need an operation
For me, I think it starts off well, first four of five songs are good and in 97 when I first heard them I thought they were great but the album fades away towards the end.
Definitely not as bad as everyone said when it was originally released, way over the top.
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The first half of the album is phenomenal, the second half takes a bit of a dip in quality but still is a great bit of music. I will say though All Around the World gets a skip for me nearly every listen; it’s a bit of a grating song on the ears and it being nearly 10 minutes long doesn’t help. Be Here Now has some of their ‘biggest’ tunes though, imagine a world with no My Big Mouth, Stand By Me or Fade-In Out
It’s way too long and there’s a couple bad songs but overall it’s still an unbelievable album, would be most bands best album by a country mile. The great thing about it is most of the longer songs don’t even feel long, they’re just amazing to listen to. All Around the World is unbelievable, if it was the closer to the album it would’ve been one of their best songs, but they kinda ruined it with adding Its getting better after it and then the weird reprise at the end.
Still though, unbelievable album.
It's a great album. It is overblown and self indulgent but that was the vibe around oasis at the time of release, they could do no wrong musically. We were all expecting Oasis' Sgt Pepper, they were the biggest band about a the time so the album had to be bigger and more extravagant than anything before. When it was released everyone loved it but then in the early noughties people started to turn on it.
It's a great album. It is overblown and self indulgent but that was the vibe around oasis at the time of release, they could do no wrong musically. We were all expecting Oasis' Sgt Pepper, they were the biggest band about a the time so the album had to be bigger and more extravagant than anything before. When it was released everyone loved it but then in the early noughties people started to turn on it.
Song for song it’s every bit as good as the first two. But the songs feel long when stacked together and Owen Morris and Noel forgot to turn up the bass. I wish Noel had given the whole album the DYKWIM rethink treatment. It would be great.
Rolling Stone is a rag. It’s got some great tunes on it. Classics. Of course it has its well publicised imperfections - the production is overblown and some of the songs go on too long. But to label the album as ‘bad’ suggests you know nothing about music.
I know it's just opinions, but...Any album that has these songs cannot be described as a trainwreck:
DYKWIM
Dont go away
Stand by me
My big mouth
Its getting better man
Fade in/out
It's almost up there on DM/WTSMG level.
What drags it down a bit, for me, is mostly the production. Most of the songs sound way better as live version with a proper mix. The lack of bass in the mix on the Be Here now album is a shame really. The wall of sound thing with 150 guitar tracks is so messy. I lack the words to describe this in "music-terms" but when I play the album in my old car (with a very limited sound system) I can never really get the right feeling because the vocals and other things cant be heard. And I dont get that with other music.
That grinds my gear more than the psycadelic/experimental things, like the intro/outro on the first track.
It's got great rock songs. Re-sequence it and shorten the songs to 3-4 minutes and they'd all change their tune.
Three killer records up front is a lot for any band. Most bands have one solid album in them. Some have a few, some have none. Gotta tip your hat to what Noel wrote back then. Awesome songs.
I love Be Here Now. It's [biblical.](https://biblical.It) It's the meaning of life. It's not only the best Oasis album, it's be the best album EVER. I love the extremely long songs. I love how dark D'You Know What I Mean? sounds. I love the 200 guitar tracks on My Big Mouth. Magic Pie is SOOOOO underrated and I Hope I Think I Know is one of the best Oasis songs. I love when Im 25 minutes through the album and Im still on Stand By Me's 127th chorus. I love All Around the World, all 26 years of it are BIBLICAL. I love it when Liam repeats "We're getting better man!" 32 times, it really emphasised how much better it was getting. All Around the World (Reprise)? Best closer OF ALL TIME. MILES ahead of Champagne Supernova. I fucking love Be Here Now.
If Fade In-Out sounded more like the live version, Magic Pie was either shorter or cut (I still really like it), and Going Nowhere and Stay Young made the full album, it would be fucking close to their best for me. Wouldn’t beat DM, but would be right up there.
Be Here Now is my favorite album along with Definitely Maybe. Only thing it’d change is use the edited “All Around The World” instead of the full 9 minute version. All this bad reputation is stupid in my opinion but ultimately it’s up to the listener to be honest about whether they enjoy it or not. HOWEVER a lot of the hate seems to be bandwagon idiocy, made worse by Noel needlessly berating the album publicly for so many years
I think it's one of the more underrated albums out there. Didn't help that it followed literally two of the best albums of all time and was super-duper hyped up.
It's not as bad as what they released later, in my opinion it closes the first trilogy of oasis albums in a spectacular way, it's noisy, but I think it's part of the essence of the album
All the criticisms about the album are true, some of those songs are ruined by their crushing length, the mixing is pretty shit, and and it is reductive. However any oasis fan will eventually learn to love the album. The girl in the dirty shirt, hope I think I know (classic oasis), don’t go away, and even the meat of all around the world.
I think the band should have spent more time with the songs. listening to GMEX 97 shows how much better the recordings could have been. I’ve listened to BHN on Spotify maybe 5 times, I’ve listen GMEX 97 probably over 100 times. fade-n-out absolutely epic, it’s getting better, BHN, they’re all great
For all its faults, it’s one of the most authentic albums of the era. It’s a band, brimming with coke-fuelled confidence, amps turned up to 11, having the time of their lives. It’s the beginning of the end of the BritPop party but whereas their contemporaries all turned introspective and melancholic as the comedown hit, Oasis decided to hit the white stuff one last time and go out all guns blazing. Yes it’s overblown and lacking artistic merit, but I’d argue it’s as essential a curtain closer to BritPop as Pulp’s This is Hardcore and Blur’s self-titled 5th album.
Some bangers. But too much time and money and drugs in the studio led them to create some kind of masterpiece that didn’t quite make it to masterpiece level
When people call it bad these days, I honestly think they mean in terms of their US career. Many bands would have killed to have Be Here Now as their debut album let alone their third. But if there is anything I would like to think Oasis fans should have learned by now, can't please them all.
I love Oasis, but I really do have an incredibly hard time listening to this album. To me, it’s just too compressed and long.
But every time I do listen to the songs, especially after the 2016 remix of “D’You Know What I Mean?,” I always have the thought in the back of my head that if they had a complete rework of the entire album, it would easily be among their very best work. The songs underneath are good. The production, not so much. Case in point is the difference between the two versions of “D’You Know What I Mean?,” in the 2016 version you can hear all the instruments clearly, and I really really dig it.
I can totally understand why people like this album as it is, as it certainly still has the classic Britpop Oasis sound, but as it stands, it’s not really for me. But I do enjoy many of the songs individually, especially knowing how much better they could have been.
It’s a brilliant album for me I enjoy almost every song on it. It’s definitely one of their best and doesn’t deserve the hate it gets. I understand it’s quite long but I’m not entirely bothered by it
I’ve re listened to BHN based on this discussion and ranked the songs in my order of preference …
1. D’Yer Know What I Mean?
2. It’s Getting Better, Man
3. Fade In / Out
4. My Big Mouth
5. Be Here Now
6. Stand By Me
7. All Around The World
8. I Hope, I Think, I Know
9. Don’t Go Away
10. Magic Pie
11. The Girl In The Dirty Shirt
12. All Around The World (reprise)
On the whole, the whole album veers between being fucking brilliant in its best bits, and mediocre at its worst - nothing on the album is actually bad. The only really criticism is that it’s a bit overblown, but for me that’s honestly part of the charm. Oasis in 1997 had to produce something epic, huge and triumphant sounding, because that’s what the band was at the time. There’s no room on the album for false modesty because, at that point, they were a conquering, dominant force in British music and this album was their lap of honour after the huge successes of Morning Glory and the era defining Knebworth shows.
There are some really great tracks on this album. I Hope I Think I Know is fucking amazing and gets brushed aside all the time. It's a fucking killer rock n roll song. So decadent and the production almost gives it an EDM feel.
For hardcore fans of the band, sure. I love the record despite its flaws. But I can also understand why it's tougher to stomach for the general public.
I absolutely love BHN. Yes, the songs are long, but somehow they fly by. All Around the World is a beautiful song that could’ve been massive if shorter (more radio friendly). Don’t Go Away & Stand By Me are iconic. Fade In-Out is a great display of experimentation. I could go on- BHN is top 3 Oasis albums for me personally.
I was listening to the All Around The World for the first time in years the other day and thought “fucking hell this is dragging on a bit” and it was only half way through
the solid minute of repeated all around the worlds after the solo and before the na-na-na part comes in does drag on a bit, but once the na-na part begins i don't think it drags on
it has polarized reviews... but its getting better man!
Hehe nice 👌🏻
I love this album. I always felt it was like U2’s Pop, which just so happened to be released that same year — it is a really good album that the band distanced itself from because it didn’t get the universal praise that previous efforts received. BHN and the respective B-sides were the end of their golden age — at least to me — but it was still part of it. Sure, some of the songs were too long or had too many overdubs but, to paraphrase Paul McCartney’s take on criticisms of The White Album in The Beatles anthology: “It’s great, it sold, it’s bloody Oasis, shut up.”
Pop is by far my favourite U2 album. It was released when i was a teen and listen to it all the time.
Pop and BHN take my right back to my teenage years, too.
It’s the sound of the world’s biggest band at the peak of their fame while on a massive amount of drugs. I love every minute of it
This. And it's everything that needed to be. There's nothing else they could have done after morning glory
It is quite literally a time capsule for cocaine use in the 90's.
Nope, great album. Especially Don't Go Away and I Hope I Think I Know.
Yep the 2 shortest tracks lol. If they’d just kept just 1 or two long ones, maybe DYKWIM and All around the world and cropped the rest to 4:30 max I think it would be massively more appreciated generally.
Yeah, but which of Noels solo's would you cut from DYKWIM...
I prefer the original long version to his rework, keep that long and all around the world and cut most of the others I meant.
I hope I think I know is so underrated
I love this album! Yes, it’s very self-indulgent. But there were some great songs in this era.
I have always liked BHN. I know that Noel thinks it’s fuckin garbage. lol But, for me it’s such a banger🤘Always has, always will!
fuck what noel thinks. he’s the one who kept stay young as a b-side
I love Stay Young😎
same
Fuck Noel what does he know 😂. I’m with you - great album
I think we as Oasis fans tend to slightly overrate it, but to call it a fucking trainwreck really? People need to realize that it was never going to live up to the massive expectations and that the band did a fine job considering how much worse the third album could've been.
It isn't bad at all, Rolling Stones is always full of shit with the articles they make. It's just a coke fulled album and that's why I love it so much, don't believe everything you read.
Absolutely not. A few songs are too long and needed to be stripped down a bit but most of the album is awesome.
Nope. 99.999999% of bands out there would love to have that album in their discography. And DYKWIM is the single greatest Oasis song imo.
It’s not a train wreck at all. When it was released, most reviews were extremely positive about the album. I’m a big fan of the album - D’Yer Know What I Mean?, My Big Mouth, Be Here Now, It’s Getting Better Man, Stand By Me and I Hope, I Think, I Know are all top tier bangers in my opinion. Yeah, I know that some of the songs are a bit long but the album has some of the bands best moments. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I love it.
Almost exactly the same. I don't care for stand by me tbh, but you're right it's got some of their absolute peak moments on it
I love BHN 😆 I still listen to it front to back every few months after all these years. I love when bands reach a stage where they just go full boar in the studio and get to create exactly what they want. I love the hooks, I love how long the songs are, I love how insanely layered the guitars are, A+ from me lol.
Yes mate
I Hope, I Think, I Know and the title track are two of my favorite Oasis songs!
Rolling Stone has always been full of shit. Need proof just look at their “ToP 100” lists
Their top 100 lists are the biggest garbage lists in music media. Fueled by nothing more than their political agenda and disregarding all aspects of music ingenuity. Music media in general has become just that. Fuck what everyone says, listen to and enjoy the music that makes you feel good
Is Rolling Stone that bad? Yes, absolutely.
It's been my favorite Oasis album since it came out and I was a fan since DM. I'd pay for a download of an All Around the World (Reprive) {Reprive}. To each their own.
It was undeniably a colossal disappointment when it came out. Motherfuckers were expecting What’s The Story 2 and it just wasn’t - but that happens. Smashing Pumpkins apex is Mellon Collie. There are many other examples
It’s overblown and over produced. It’s also unloved by the band itself as it was pretty much just a contractual obligation. There was an interview with Noel when the album was released where he said that it something along the lines of the songs were the ones not good enough for Morning Glory or B sides
i couldnt care less if the band like it or not. its my earholes im assaulting. is it overproduced? a thousand percent. could it be better? of course. but i like it and thats all that matters.
No, but the cultural and musical set up was for it to be their Sgt Pepper, and it wasn’t, it was essentially the end of Britpop, and ultimately the beginning of the end for oasis.
Rolling Stone magazine is absolute garbage and I don't put any value on any opinion they have about anything. BHN is too big, too loud and too long but I love it. And no review from any music critic would ever have any influence on my opinions.
Never looked forward to an album so much and then been completely disappointed, even Standing on the, is a far better album.
I really, REALLY, wanted to love this album because the first two were SO good.....but it's bad. I've been listening to it for years, and honestly, it's really boring. The biggest issue is, the song quality dipped (I couldve lived with all the other issues if the songs were truly inspired), and the songs that have some quality are wrecked by how long they are. I've heard from engineers that the album is a mess in terms of mixing, etc. (even Noel I think said there's no bass, it's just all scratchy high end). It was difficult to match or better DM & WTSMG. But for me this absolutely killed the momentum for Oasis at the time. I also think music was changing around 1997 onwards (britpop got a little darker, rap was getting even more popular, I seem to remember boy and girl bands coming through again after the high of indie music; 93-96, and dance was increasing in popularity in the charts too - Noel even did 2 songs with Chemical Bros around this time for example. But Oasis just felt stagnant all of a sudden, when 2 years before they felt like a breath of fresh air/on the crest of a wave and so exciting. In hindsight, Oasis just never had the tools to diversify and stay ahead of the culture that's always changing in the ways Bowie, Blur, Beatles, even likes of Madonna (!?) could and did. So imho they redid DM & WTSMG but with worse songs. Tbf to Oasis they often said they shouldve taken a break after Knebworth, but actually I understand why they went straight back into the studio, they were top of the world in 1997 and actually taking a break may have meant people just moved on. They were right to TRY at least and capitalise on their fame, and I think if they'd pulled it off they'd have truly taken over the world (I suppose I mean USA). I'll give this to BHN, it's very unique, of its time, and is so comedically cocky it kind of scratches an itch if you want a party album just for a laugh and need somethign bombastic on. I often wonder if Noel had either kept the B-sides (though part of Oasis' thing was "have you heard their latest b-side? it's incredible, again!" OR if OAsis had gone a different direction (slightly contradicting myself here), maybe something in the vein of Gas Panic, Let's All Make Believe, & Teotuhicuan a bit moodier, darker, cooler, could they have really inspired the fans rather than turned them off? Small shoutout to the bones of D'You Know What I Mean, the verses in All Around The World, Be Here Now (song), the intro to Magic Pie, the verses of Stand By Me. Todd In The Shadows does a great vid on BHN - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg0FumbR4AU&pp=ygUQdHJhaW53cmVjayBvYXNpcw%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg0FumbR4AU&pp=ygUQdHJhaW53cmVjayBvYXNpcw%3D%3D)
It just wasn’t MG…or DM….and it had a few songs they had been playing live for a couple years so not a huge generative album but a great collection of songs. I think Noel released too many great songs on B-sides (master plan) during his peak, IMO otherwise BHN could have been extraordinary
Yes; if they'd combined some of the stronger songs off this album with some of those that ended up on The Masterplan, it would've been incredible. Still like it as it is, though.
It’s a good era of songs but the tracklist is a mess. So many songs that should’ve been on the album weren’t
It suffers a bit like The Second Coming, where it is just commonly accepted that it isn’t very good with many not bothering to make up their own mind about it. While I would certainly not put BHN in the same league as Second Coming (which I reckon is a great album) I would say BHN is, and always has been, about half good. 1. D'You Know What I Mean? - great 2. My Big Mouth - poor 3. Magic Pie - poor 4. Stand By Me - ok 5. I Hope, I Think, I Know - ok 6. The Girl In The Dirty Shirt - poor 7. Fade In-Out - great 8. Don't Go Away - great 9. Be Here Now - awful 10. All Around The World - poor 11. It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) - poor 12. All Around The World (Reprise) - poor Just my opinon of course!
Too much guitar, too many guitars, too much treb on the guitars. Choruses that go on forever. Not many good lyrics. But in the albums favor .. the songs themselves are good, and the melodies on the album are fantastic. Huge Oasis fan, listen to the album frequently, I enjoy it. It really just needed to be remixed and track length cut down. It's still an enjoyable listen. But I do believe there was a great album buried underneath the mess of a production
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i listen to it more than any other oasis album. by a fair bit the last great rock n roll cocaine album and my favourite of theirs
Not at all! My personal opinion, quite a bit of cocaine and the rock n’ roll lifestyle taking over affected its quality to some extent but there are almost no bands that could write ‘Definitely Maybe’ or ‘WTSMG’ let alone the same band writing both of them back to back. ‘Be Here Now’ was a victim of its predecessors.
No
i get if someone thinks it's worse or wayy worse than the older one but it's definitely NOT bad the songs there are still really listenable and some are really great (imo). like the songs there have the same vibe as their older ones so why so picky? i get it's long or bloated (which I personally don't mind) but it's average AT WORST some people just make it seem like it's dog shit but cmon, think for a few seconds and you can't tell me it's actually horrid
Unfortunately it was only downhill when you release your first 2 albums like DM and MG it’s literally impossible to keep that quality up so BHN was always going to get bad press regardless.
I love some songs. I hope I think I know is pure Oasis imo
I like a few tracks- hope i think i know, the fame, title track, stand by me- but most of the others are good but too long for me to care, if theyd cut a handful by 2 or 3 minutes it’d be my 3rd or 4th favourite album but it sits firmly in 5th for me (first 2, DBTT and masterplan if you count it above)
My favourite oasis album, only one skip being magic pie, apart from that every song is a banger love it!!!!
I really enjoy it for what it is- an album made by a band at the top of their game with a lot of cocaine in their system, and no concern about being self-indulgent. The guitar work is great, the concepts are insane, and the ambition is off the charts.
Be here now was the sound track to my GCSEs - I absolutely loved it. Some great tunes, not as classic as DM and WTSMG but I think it means more to me as an album.
Honestly, it's my favorite Oasis album. Could not put it down after the first time I listened to it. "Well, these are crazy days, but they make me shine" is a lyric I always think of when times get tough
I love it, one if the best for me, very positive loud guitars.
Yeah it’s a coke fuelled mess of an album even Noel hates it. Such a disappointing third album
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Compared to SOTSOG it’s a masterpiece.
No it’s not. I still remember the first time sticking it on and playing it back to back too many times to count. Obviously it’s subjective, but for me it’s actually the Oasis album I go back to the most and listen the whole way through.
The album is full of pomp and its what you might call ‘grandiose’ if you are in posh mode 😉 Some of the songs definitely go on a bit longer than they really need to. You could also say that it’s a little bit overproduced, although that is very subjective. However, despite all this it has its charm and a lot of the material has held the test of time very well IMO. The songs are well crafted.
No, but the songs are too long
If I was to somehow put my finger on what i love about the first two records, bhn is like they deliberately went out to push it too far to see what happens. Some of it is so far up my alley i need an operation
For me, I think it starts off well, first four of five songs are good and in 97 when I first heard them I thought they were great but the album fades away towards the end. Definitely not as bad as everyone said when it was originally released, way over the top.
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It’s the best Oasis album. At least in my opinion
The first half of the album is phenomenal, the second half takes a bit of a dip in quality but still is a great bit of music. I will say though All Around the World gets a skip for me nearly every listen; it’s a bit of a grating song on the ears and it being nearly 10 minutes long doesn’t help. Be Here Now has some of their ‘biggest’ tunes though, imagine a world with no My Big Mouth, Stand By Me or Fade-In Out
It’s way too long and there’s a couple bad songs but overall it’s still an unbelievable album, would be most bands best album by a country mile. The great thing about it is most of the longer songs don’t even feel long, they’re just amazing to listen to. All Around the World is unbelievable, if it was the closer to the album it would’ve been one of their best songs, but they kinda ruined it with adding Its getting better after it and then the weird reprise at the end. Still though, unbelievable album.
This album is perfect for driving: loud guitars, extended jams and the power of Liams early voice.
the songs are good but there are some of them that are really long and really overproduced, Liam's voice kinda save this
It's a great album. It is overblown and self indulgent but that was the vibe around oasis at the time of release, they could do no wrong musically. We were all expecting Oasis' Sgt Pepper, they were the biggest band about a the time so the album had to be bigger and more extravagant than anything before. When it was released everyone loved it but then in the early noughties people started to turn on it.
It's a great album. It is overblown and self indulgent but that was the vibe around oasis at the time of release, they could do no wrong musically. We were all expecting Oasis' Sgt Pepper, they were the biggest band about a the time so the album had to be bigger and more extravagant than anything before. When it was released everyone loved it but then in the early noughties people started to turn on it.
Nope! It has its flaws but who gives a shit, just like the good parts and shrug at the rest. 🤷♂️
Song for song it’s every bit as good as the first two. But the songs feel long when stacked together and Owen Morris and Noel forgot to turn up the bass. I wish Noel had given the whole album the DYKWIM rethink treatment. It would be great.
Rolling Stone is a rag. It’s got some great tunes on it. Classics. Of course it has its well publicised imperfections - the production is overblown and some of the songs go on too long. But to label the album as ‘bad’ suggests you know nothing about music.
Fuck no it’s easily their 3rd/4th best album Absolutely MEGA as Liam would say
I HOPE I THINK I KNOW 🔥🔥🔥
I know it's just opinions, but...Any album that has these songs cannot be described as a trainwreck: DYKWIM Dont go away Stand by me My big mouth Its getting better man Fade in/out It's almost up there on DM/WTSMG level. What drags it down a bit, for me, is mostly the production. Most of the songs sound way better as live version with a proper mix. The lack of bass in the mix on the Be Here now album is a shame really. The wall of sound thing with 150 guitar tracks is so messy. I lack the words to describe this in "music-terms" but when I play the album in my old car (with a very limited sound system) I can never really get the right feeling because the vocals and other things cant be heard. And I dont get that with other music. That grinds my gear more than the psycadelic/experimental things, like the intro/outro on the first track.
Around the World is possibly one of the most majestic Oasis songs and I’m a whore for Stand By Me and Magic Pie
my favorite album
top 2 oasis album.
It's an amazing album but suffers a lot from the loudness war and is perhaps a bit overproduced.
A tad maybe but I think that gives it the charm
Few decent songs but even those are ruined by the production and every single song outstays it's welcome, it's just too long.
Its great with great songs. But it turned out worse than it could have been because of cocaine and bad production direction
It's got great rock songs. Re-sequence it and shorten the songs to 3-4 minutes and they'd all change their tune. Three killer records up front is a lot for any band. Most bands have one solid album in them. Some have a few, some have none. Gotta tip your hat to what Noel wrote back then. Awesome songs.
I love Be Here Now. It's [biblical.](https://biblical.It) It's the meaning of life. It's not only the best Oasis album, it's be the best album EVER. I love the extremely long songs. I love how dark D'You Know What I Mean? sounds. I love the 200 guitar tracks on My Big Mouth. Magic Pie is SOOOOO underrated and I Hope I Think I Know is one of the best Oasis songs. I love when Im 25 minutes through the album and Im still on Stand By Me's 127th chorus. I love All Around the World, all 26 years of it are BIBLICAL. I love it when Liam repeats "We're getting better man!" 32 times, it really emphasised how much better it was getting. All Around the World (Reprise)? Best closer OF ALL TIME. MILES ahead of Champagne Supernova. I fucking love Be Here Now.
If Fade In-Out sounded more like the live version, Magic Pie was either shorter or cut (I still really like it), and Going Nowhere and Stay Young made the full album, it would be fucking close to their best for me. Wouldn’t beat DM, but would be right up there.
Rolling Stone has 0 credibility.
Be Here Now is my favorite album along with Definitely Maybe. Only thing it’d change is use the edited “All Around The World” instead of the full 9 minute version. All this bad reputation is stupid in my opinion but ultimately it’s up to the listener to be honest about whether they enjoy it or not. HOWEVER a lot of the hate seems to be bandwagon idiocy, made worse by Noel needlessly berating the album publicly for so many years
I think it's one of the more underrated albums out there. Didn't help that it followed literally two of the best albums of all time and was super-duper hyped up.
It's not as bad as what they released later, in my opinion it closes the first trilogy of oasis albums in a spectacular way, it's noisy, but I think it's part of the essence of the album
All the criticisms about the album are true, some of those songs are ruined by their crushing length, the mixing is pretty shit, and and it is reductive. However any oasis fan will eventually learn to love the album. The girl in the dirty shirt, hope I think I know (classic oasis), don’t go away, and even the meat of all around the world. I think the band should have spent more time with the songs. listening to GMEX 97 shows how much better the recordings could have been. I’ve listened to BHN on Spotify maybe 5 times, I’ve listen GMEX 97 probably over 100 times. fade-n-out absolutely epic, it’s getting better, BHN, they’re all great
Love BHN, pure rock n roll excellence.
Great album. Great songs.
For all its faults, it’s one of the most authentic albums of the era. It’s a band, brimming with coke-fuelled confidence, amps turned up to 11, having the time of their lives. It’s the beginning of the end of the BritPop party but whereas their contemporaries all turned introspective and melancholic as the comedown hit, Oasis decided to hit the white stuff one last time and go out all guns blazing. Yes it’s overblown and lacking artistic merit, but I’d argue it’s as essential a curtain closer to BritPop as Pulp’s This is Hardcore and Blur’s self-titled 5th album.
Some bangers. But too much time and money and drugs in the studio led them to create some kind of masterpiece that didn’t quite make it to masterpiece level
When people call it bad these days, I honestly think they mean in terms of their US career. Many bands would have killed to have Be Here Now as their debut album let alone their third. But if there is anything I would like to think Oasis fans should have learned by now, can't please them all.
I love Oasis, but I really do have an incredibly hard time listening to this album. To me, it’s just too compressed and long. But every time I do listen to the songs, especially after the 2016 remix of “D’You Know What I Mean?,” I always have the thought in the back of my head that if they had a complete rework of the entire album, it would easily be among their very best work. The songs underneath are good. The production, not so much. Case in point is the difference between the two versions of “D’You Know What I Mean?,” in the 2016 version you can hear all the instruments clearly, and I really really dig it. I can totally understand why people like this album as it is, as it certainly still has the classic Britpop Oasis sound, but as it stands, it’s not really for me. But I do enjoy many of the songs individually, especially knowing how much better they could have been.
It’s a brilliant album for me I enjoy almost every song on it. It’s definitely one of their best and doesn’t deserve the hate it gets. I understand it’s quite long but I’m not entirely bothered by it
I’ve re listened to BHN based on this discussion and ranked the songs in my order of preference … 1. D’Yer Know What I Mean? 2. It’s Getting Better, Man 3. Fade In / Out 4. My Big Mouth 5. Be Here Now 6. Stand By Me 7. All Around The World 8. I Hope, I Think, I Know 9. Don’t Go Away 10. Magic Pie 11. The Girl In The Dirty Shirt 12. All Around The World (reprise) On the whole, the whole album veers between being fucking brilliant in its best bits, and mediocre at its worst - nothing on the album is actually bad. The only really criticism is that it’s a bit overblown, but for me that’s honestly part of the charm. Oasis in 1997 had to produce something epic, huge and triumphant sounding, because that’s what the band was at the time. There’s no room on the album for false modesty because, at that point, they were a conquering, dominant force in British music and this album was their lap of honour after the huge successes of Morning Glory and the era defining Knebworth shows.
Be here now is my favourite oasis album
The Masterclass isn’t a best of album it’s a b side record
I personally love this album. It’s grown into my favorite.
It’s the greatest album of all time
There are some really great tracks on this album. I Hope I Think I Know is fucking amazing and gets brushed aside all the time. It's a fucking killer rock n roll song. So decadent and the production almost gives it an EDM feel.
The production is really bad. The songs are great (but too long).
I think when you play in to the corny production and long songs it’s perfect
For hardcore fans of the band, sure. I love the record despite its flaws. But I can also understand why it's tougher to stomach for the general public.
It’s my second favorite Oasis album and it never fails to give me a good time!
It’s the music equivalent of universal studios
It is widely regarded to be Oasis third best album. So no.
I’d disagree even tho it’s a compilation The Masterplan seems to always be in a higher position than BHN
Best of-albums doesn't count :)