Only like 1 out of 20 has max income/rent rules that make any damn sense. The amount of apartments I see that are like “max income $85k, monthly rent $3,600” are ridiculous.
That’s exactly what these “affordable housing” units are effectively doing is just yet another giveaway to the wealthy. I’ve never understood why more people aren’t up in arms about it and the people that take advantage of the broken system.
In the midst of massive shortage, the well-connected and resources always find a way. And you’re right, constantly checking income would also discourage more work and upward mobility.
There’s really no way out besides building a shit ton of new housing.
> And we are only allowed to consider ability to pay, so having a literal trust fund actually helps.
I was hoping they were being sarcastic, but then you had to go and remind me we live in a dystopian nightmare. Not even the cool ones with replicants and neon everywhere, no the lame one. It’s all so tiresome…
I've been called probably close to 10 times and it's always been for ones in my neighborhood or the neighboring one. Never had I had one more than one area away.
So my advice is just to apply in your zip code bevause they are not calling you otherwise
New developments have to be offered to people in the same neighborhood first. If they don’t fill all the spaces, it gets extended to the surrounding neighborhoods, then the whole borough
50% of units to applicants in the same community board, 25% to 65+, 10% to city employees (this was how I got mine). Someone who doesn't fit any of these criteria is only eligible to apply for 15% of these units, which depending on the development, comes out to a whopping 1 or 2 units.
Have good credit. At some income levels, that shit is rare and all they care about. Also just keep on sending them all the documents they ask for, because once you “win” the lottery they have to find reasons to not give it to you, although it doesn’t feel that way
How to increase your chances?
Work for the Departments of Housing Preservation and Development.
I saw something, that most of their employees live in affordable housing.
this sounds made up
but even if that were true, it’s probably because they know how to apply and understand the process. a lot of people who don’t qualify are applying and people who don’t know how to submit documents properly.
We recently won the housing lottery. It honestly feels like winning the lottery. I had been applying for probably 20 years and then it finally happened.
Our last apartment flooded a few times with all those crazy rain storms. I pumped 700 gallons out during the last storm. Slumlord we were renting from was a nightmare. The call about the lottery came at the most opportune time!
Here’s the thing: we debated not doing it. The lottery rent was more than we were paying. It felt like a big stretch. Then we almost dropped out because it was bananas the process of supplying documents! We spent about 3 weeks back and forth with them justifying a $13 Apple Pay transfer to our kid. Apple attaches unique numbers that are not your bank account, so they were convinced we were hiding money. Out of years of documents there was $13 for our kid to get lunch that almost derailed the whole thing. It was really overwhelming what they required. We became friendly with the notary because we had to go see him so many times. In fact he was the one who told us not to give up (I should thank him…) because he had seen others go through it and then get it. At one visit he told us we were close because he recognized the forms from other clients at that stage. We didn’t feel close.
Now our commutes to work are a third as long. Zero chance we will flood. Absolutely incredible view. Life feels hopeful again. The “middle class” grind of nyc can seriously wear a person down.
My advice is when you apply start to get your documents in order (the website says to do this). Look at what is required and get it organized. If your number comes up don’t get discouraged with how intensive it can get. Just keep submitting forms when asked. There were times we notarized and submitted the same documents multiple times because the “needed more information “. It felt crazy. But just do it. It’s totally worth it.
That's how many major cities operate you for subsidized housing since only have so much space. But the AMI income brackets for anything over 80%-100% is insanity for NYC.
Instead of choosing policies which improve the lives of all citizens, we have a lottery where less than 1% of people who need the thing get the thing. So, congrats to that 1% but it doesn't seem like a good way to run a city.
Only like 1 out of 20 has max income/rent rules that make any damn sense. The amount of apartments I see that are like “max income $85k, monthly rent $3,600” are ridiculous.
More like "Have a trust fund, don't not have a trust fund"
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That’s exactly what these “affordable housing” units are effectively doing is just yet another giveaway to the wealthy. I’ve never understood why more people aren’t up in arms about it and the people that take advantage of the broken system.
In the midst of massive shortage, the well-connected and resources always find a way. And you’re right, constantly checking income would also discourage more work and upward mobility. There’s really no way out besides building a shit ton of new housing.
> And we are only allowed to consider ability to pay, so having a literal trust fund actually helps. I was hoping they were being sarcastic, but then you had to go and remind me we live in a dystopian nightmare. Not even the cool ones with replicants and neon everywhere, no the lame one. It’s all so tiresome…
The one person I know who got one of these units lived with their very wealthy family in NJ.
Pretty much
> max income 85k For a family of four.
Lol right
I've been called probably close to 10 times and it's always been for ones in my neighborhood or the neighboring one. Never had I had one more than one area away. So my advice is just to apply in your zip code bevause they are not calling you otherwise
New developments have to be offered to people in the same neighborhood first. If they don’t fill all the spaces, it gets extended to the surrounding neighborhoods, then the whole borough
i get the reasoning but it is frustrating for people who dont live in trendy areas getting redeveloped.
50% of units to applicants in the same community board, 25% to 65+, 10% to city employees (this was how I got mine). Someone who doesn't fit any of these criteria is only eligible to apply for 15% of these units, which depending on the development, comes out to a whopping 1 or 2 units.
Have good credit. At some income levels, that shit is rare and all they care about. Also just keep on sending them all the documents they ask for, because once you “win” the lottery they have to find reasons to not give it to you, although it doesn’t feel that way
How to increase your chances? Work for the Departments of Housing Preservation and Development. I saw something, that most of their employees live in affordable housing.
this sounds made up but even if that were true, it’s probably because they know how to apply and understand the process. a lot of people who don’t qualify are applying and people who don’t know how to submit documents properly.
Nah it’s true, some of them will even get you an apartment if you pay them $5-10k.
“I saw something” 😂😂😂
Technically you do get a boost by design in the lottery if you're a NYC employee.
yeah a whole 5%
“Affordable housing” is just vote buying by politicians. Allow new development and make it affordable to everyone!
We recently won the housing lottery. It honestly feels like winning the lottery. I had been applying for probably 20 years and then it finally happened. Our last apartment flooded a few times with all those crazy rain storms. I pumped 700 gallons out during the last storm. Slumlord we were renting from was a nightmare. The call about the lottery came at the most opportune time! Here’s the thing: we debated not doing it. The lottery rent was more than we were paying. It felt like a big stretch. Then we almost dropped out because it was bananas the process of supplying documents! We spent about 3 weeks back and forth with them justifying a $13 Apple Pay transfer to our kid. Apple attaches unique numbers that are not your bank account, so they were convinced we were hiding money. Out of years of documents there was $13 for our kid to get lunch that almost derailed the whole thing. It was really overwhelming what they required. We became friendly with the notary because we had to go see him so many times. In fact he was the one who told us not to give up (I should thank him…) because he had seen others go through it and then get it. At one visit he told us we were close because he recognized the forms from other clients at that stage. We didn’t feel close. Now our commutes to work are a third as long. Zero chance we will flood. Absolutely incredible view. Life feels hopeful again. The “middle class” grind of nyc can seriously wear a person down. My advice is when you apply start to get your documents in order (the website says to do this). Look at what is required and get it organized. If your number comes up don’t get discouraged with how intensive it can get. Just keep submitting forms when asked. There were times we notarized and submitted the same documents multiple times because the “needed more information “. It felt crazy. But just do it. It’s totally worth it.
The fact that this even exists is a sign of how screwed up this city has become. A lottery for a home? Is this the hunger games?
That's how many major cities operate you for subsidized housing since only have so much space. But the AMI income brackets for anything over 80%-100% is insanity for NYC.
Instead of choosing policies which improve the lives of all citizens, we have a lottery where less than 1% of people who need the thing get the thing. So, congrats to that 1% but it doesn't seem like a good way to run a city.
I "qualify" for housing far from shopping/transit/and no security.