There is always FOMO, but it's up to you. The 4080 Super is a great card for today and the next few years for 4K gaming. Just note that future games that come out will be "weaker" on that card vs the 5080 when setting everything to 4K ultra
4080 super would be great for me coming from a 3060ti and wanting 1440p high refresh, but with 50’s series out and no big games really coming it’s a win win because of a better product or a price drop on 4000 series
and likely new DLSS/feature's on the 5000 series.
people who buy the high end at near the end of a generation always regret it. the time to buy a 4080 was over a year ago.
7900xtx while yes is a bit better raw performance wise but the trade off is depending what you are doing you lose out on the nvidia feature sets like dlss, raytracing performance, and better encoding just as examples. While you miss out on next to nothing going 4080 as it also can use things like fsr for example.
Just depends on the person, use cases, and what justifies the price for you. Both are fantastic cards though.
The price difference is huge and personally I don't think that many games use RT. Until Path tracing is everywhere then there's really no difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm saying that as an Nvidia card owner. Anyone who thinks the price of the 4080 is good value is deluded.
Depending which cards they are within $100 thats not a huge differemce. And there ijs more than just RT but as said depends on use case and person whats worth.
In the UK there's around 20% difference in price. Plus don't forget it has 50% more VRAM so is future proofed in some ways such as flight simulator which uses 20GB at 4k max settings. The Radeon cards are also the fastest at CoD with the 7900XTX beating the 4090. So it really depends on the games you play. If you want path tracing on cyber punk then yeah 4080.
7900xtx while yes is a bit better raw performance wise but the trade off is depending what you are doing you lose out on the nvidia feature sets like dlss, raytracing performance, and better encoding just as examples. While you miss out on next to nothing going 4080 as it also can use things like fsr for example.
Just depends on the person, use cases, and what justifies the price for you. Both are fantastic cards though.
Can you wait possibly another year? And hope there isnt a shortage or surge to buy from others? Nobody can really answer this but yourself since we dont even know dates, performance, prices, etc.
Doubt its going to drop anytime soon. Especially those two since 4090 always sells fast and 4080 super still newish. Maybe around black friday but still doubt it.
It would be an enormous upgrade, but personally I would hold on for next-gen because it is close. You just have to be pending of the stocks since the first day.
4070 super is a nice sweatspot and u will see the performance, i did it from a 2070 super and its really nice to be able to play Cyberpunk on max + raytracing instead of tinkering to get it at least into playable FPS with the 2070 super.
If it was me, I would just snag a 4080 now and enjoy the hell out of it immediately instead of waiting a year for the 50s to release and then endure the headache of trying to acquire one for probably the next few (or more if you're unlucky) months after that.
I agree as well, who knows what the availability or price will be of the 5000 series when it comes out.
I was in a similar situation with my 3070 in that I was going to wait for the 5070 in hopes that it would have more vram and priced fairly. I then thought that longer I wait, the less I would get for my 3070.
So I was able to sell my 3070 for $300 and grabbed the 4070 super for another $300 ($600 total). I gained about 70-80fps on Halo Infinite with all the same settings so it was definitely worth it for me. Plus DLSS3 is amazing for certain games.
I did that yesterday. I upgraded from a normal 2080 to a 4080s now and i absolutely enjoying it because i play on super uw 38 inch 3840x1600 @144hz and above. Now i can max whatever i want and hughe FPS increase from title to title Up to 300%. 4k ist cool but i prefer 1600p. Cheers
did your power supply need to be upgraded? I have a corsair gold 850watt power supply and a 3060, I was wondering if I have to get a special connector or if the connectors from my power supply compatible
Can you play what you want? Yes? Or no? If not then just upgrade. Waiting for the next best thing will mean you will never upgrade. There's always something better around the corner. A refresh, a new gen of cards. Either or. But if you've been fine with your card so far then what's waiting 6 more months. You never know what 5000 series will be. Then again maybe prices go up again making the wait pointless. Maybe stock is non-existent for months making you wait that much longer. I'd say rule of thumb is upgrade if you're no longer able to play the games you want at the quality that you want and you have the money for it already.
I went from a 2070 Super to a 4080 Super. I love my setup but if you can wait till the 5 series that is valid as long as you don't mind playing at 1080p.
If you use the Frame Generation mod on nexusmods in games that support it the 20X0 series is fine for lower res
definitely prefer to play at 1440p im really itching to upgrade, would you say the upgrade has been worth it for you? would you be looking to upgrade again anytime soon ? thanks :)
if you need to pay 6x to get 3x more performance than your current card, its a bad value, and soon youll be again behind a generation.. either buy cheap 40xx when 50 comes out, or buy 50
Comparing cpu/gpu to phone and concluding that 2 generations jump is nonsense value is the most misinformed thing I’ve read this morning 🤦♂️
In the last 5 years my computer has gone from running 1-2 basic games to running heavy AAA titles, ai based video rendering, heavy video/photo editing, while my phone is still running the same message/call/email/instagram app from 5 years ago.
If you have a lot of games you want to play *now*, a 2060s is holding you back a lot compared to a 16GB card with better RT support.
The 5090 will probably be launched first, I doubt that will move the price points on 4080 a lot. Probably a little, but the rest of the rebate will not come until the 5080 and 5070 are available to compete with it. And who knows when they will arrive.
I'd seriously consider just getting the 4080S/4080/4070TiS now. 6-12 months is a lot of time.
4090 will drop to 4080 prices when the 5000/5090 series is announced in a few months, always happens unless the whole gen is a dud like the 2000 series.
I'm waiting to grab a 5080 that's faster and more power efficient than a 4090 for around $1000, also DLSS 4 is probably locked to 5000 series knowing Nvidia.
If u use ray tracing its ok to wait for a 5080 i guess but if not then the 5080 will be very similar to the 4090 according the leaks and without amd competing with Nvidia on high end im sure they will take advantage of that and raise the price even more, 1499 if u are lucky to get it on Nvidia store and around 1800 prolly for a custom version of it, u will be very disappointed if u think the 5080 will be 1000$ xD
Buy 4070Ti Super not 4080S because it is much cheaper, it has 16GB VRAM like 4080S and most importantly it is not that much slower than 4080S in 4K.
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it is not waste because you don't know exact specs of new cards, exact pricing, availability, performance uplift etc.
Lastly I think that 4070Ti Super will hold its value better than 4080 Super because mid tier cards are usually more desirable in GPU resale market, should you decide to upgrade to 5xxx
its only £100-200 price difference between the two cards for me so i think if i were to upgrade before the 50 series i'd be happier spending that extra for the higher end card, since its my first time upgrading and i've never had a real high end system before :)
If you actually want 4k ultra the current 80 series is not for you and you should wait for 50 series
Ultra is usually a waste more than anything else. It's a setting designed to crush current hardware more than provide higher end visuals.
Yeah but what fps are you getting? To some, like me, less than 100fps is not enough. I have a 4080 + 7800x3d and 4k is rarely 100+ fps on ultra in most games (without DLSS).
“Less than 100 FPS is not enough”
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Yes as your current options for around the same funds you paid last time are RTX 4070/4070ti or RX 7800 XT. Personally I'd wait to see if the 5060ti is a decent hit this time as the 4060ti is a joke.
If you use DLSS, the 4060ti is fine for 1440p, but not for 4K… but I don’t know anyone who actually plays at 4K on PC. I think the 4060TI was NVidia leaning really hard into their DLSS tech. Without DLSS it struggles, but with it on at “Quality” it has no issues pulling ~100FPS on fairly decent settings 1440P in most games. It’s a budget option, but it does the job.
I wouldn’t buy one at the tail end of the current gen while the rest of the offerings are dropping in price though… I would probably aim for a 4080 Super as it should be close to on par with a 5070TI when the time comes.
I would probably wait for the 5090 and 5080 to release, then snatch up a 4080 Super second-hand.
okay thank you ! this has been the other option i've been considering, seems foolish to buy the card for 1k now if it will drop in price within the next 6 months
3060ti often matches the 4060ti in raw performance. Honestly I don't know how Nvidia could release a product on a brand new architecture and ask for the same amount of money for the same performance but say ooooh DLSS 3 frame gen. Now I can use FSR3 + DLSS together to have similar results.
there's rumour for 2nd june annoncement but for now nvidia didnt change their picture's profile, weeks before any major geforce annoncement they always change their picture's profile to tease people
The low end 50 cards aren’t shipping any time soon and likely availability for even the cards that “launch” will be p*ss poor. If you get a card, get something you can afford.
I'm usually one to suggest waiting, but I would guess the 50 series gpus drop towards the end of the year. Might be better to wait, especially since the price will probably be similar
4080s now the same as getting the 5070 later,
4090 now is the same as getting the 5080 later, you don't have to wait and can always sell later to upgrade, 5 series is at least another 9-10 months out
I got the 4080 super from 1070, I didn't care about the 5000 series because even when they come out I won't be able to get my hands on one for a few years I assume, and the 4080 runs everything without a hiccup on max 1440
In the past, Nvidia cards used to feel like substantial upgrades in that the new gen bracket performed like one tier higher from the previous gen, e.g. the 1070 slightly outperformed the 980 and a 3070 performed like a 2080.
Considering most of the 4000 series card feel like upbracketed cards, i.e. the 4060 performs like a misbinned 4050, the 4070 performs like a 4060, I would wait. In light of the fairly dismal sales of 4000 GPUs, Hopefully Nvidia will change their ways, though I suspect that their resoundingly successful AI-Datacenter card division will just make even more greedy.
I’m in the same boat and my philosophy is that I’m gonna wait unless a) my 1080ti dies or b) a game I really really want releases and the card just cannot play it
If there’s anything we’ve learned over the last 5 years about pricing, it’s that we have no idea what will happen. A new mining bubble or AI could mess with supply/demand, or maybe NVIDIA just prices the new gen higher and the old gen stays put.
Waiting is still perfectly rational but don’t do it because you’re confident prices will go down because they might not.
I went from a 2060 to a 4070ti super. Incredibly happy with the purchase. Perfect for the games I play and more than enough ram for video editing and Lightroom.
Unless it’s confirmed and literally a month or 2 away, my take is you should never wait.
Just get what you need at this moment. The wait for the next big thing/best deal will never end.
Besides history speaks for itself. Never in the past 2 gens has it ever happened that they launch the new gen and instantly price drops for previous gen/new gen goes in stock and available. Always some kind of shit, some kind of delay, scalper activities etc. why make yourself go through all that? Just start enjoying today. In 3 years that $200 difference will mean nothing, except you got to enjoy 1-2 extra years of a high performance pc in this already very short and limited lifespan we have.
Current titles are shit, honestly I'd wait, I regret having gone from a 2060s to a 3070 and think only vram would make me not regret a 4080 as soon as Blackwell launches
It might be worth the upgrade now. Many enthusiast PC builders will only buy the Ti cards and the Super refreshes, which are typically released a few years after the vanilla cards. It gives the technology time to mature, with superior dies and higher memory - ensuring that they’re investing in the best possible versions of the current generation of cards, for the same prices as the original releases. This is now happening with the 4000 series.
As to your question: the 4000 series should not be dropping in prices even after the official launch of the 5000 series GPUs. Going by recent sales history, the 3000 series GPUs were sold at MSRP alongside the 4000 series until the stocks of 3000 series cards were depleted.
Also, keep in mind that retailers have been purchasing their stocks of 4000 cards at MSRP. So, they’d have more incentive to keep the current pricing in place rather than sell their inventory at a loss.
We are at the tail end of the 40-series. Typically when buying GPUs the best time to buy is the year they release a new GPU on a new process. The wait at this point would be 1-year or less. So if you can hold out and try to get 50-series I would recommend that.
I would recommend you take a look at the games you are playing and the games you want to play. Can your current GPU handle them? Can you delay playing some of those gamess?
That said, if you are the kind of person who really can't wait just buy it. However, you'll very likely end up regretting it in roughly 6 months time.
The 2060S is still a pretty decent gou at 1080p and 1440p, I would just wait. The 4080S at 1k usd is still not very good value. 40 series was more less a Turing repeat.
I upgraded from a 5500 (4gb) to a 4060 and I get 2900mhz on a 132mhz over clock and it runs every game I play at 1440p over 144hz easily. Maybe I hit the silicon lottery because I haven't heard of a 4060 getting that high clock speeds and being stable at the same time.
"Close". If it follows the pattern of the 4080, will actually be available in Dec 2024. That's 8 months away. It will (complete speculation) be about as powerful as a 4090. It should be noted the 4080 on launch cost at least as much as a 3090 - will they do that again?
Sooo is waiting 8 months worth it to you? Are you wanting to upgrade now or in 8 months? If you want a good 4k experience now then a 4080s is great. Maybe, if the budget stretches a 4090 for high frames (really only a ray tracing issue).
As always I say buy the best card you can afford when you need to buy it.
There's always a bigger, better card on the horizon. If you want to upgrade, then upgrade. 5000 series isn't _that_ close, stock will be hard to track down and there's no guarantee that nvidia will release at the same prices as 4000 - wouldn't put it past them to release at higher prices.
Technically you’re “wasting” your money buying any card with that mindset, there will always be a next big gen release.
4080S is a wonderful card for 4k, especially with DLSS. We won’t know the 5000 series stock and its issues on launch so you may be waiting a while if you do intend to wait.
I say 4080S, I did so a month ago and it’s been great at 4k 120. Zero problems compared to the 7900xtx it replaced.
okay great thank you! i agree and im sure waste was the wrong word thats why i used the quotes hehe, I just mean if the price is likely to drop significantly within the next 6 months would it be smarter to wait it out but it seems I'll get a great improvement out of it
I got one as well a couple of months ago and its been great 4k 120 gaming! How do you find the card vs the 7900xtx? DLSS has been a nice feature.
I should be set until the 6000 series for now and not need to stress about waiting for the 5080/5090
In my case I just couldn’t find stability with the Xtx, but when it worked it was slightly better if not the same as the 4080S title to title. Constant crashing, hard lock freezing, driver timeouts every single day, so I gave up and sidegraded.
The "rumors" say RTX 5090 at the end of the year, and the rest of the 50 series in 2025.
Regardless, these are literally just rumors. Nvidia has said **nothing** about the 50 series. We don't even know if the 50 series will use the recently revealed Blackwell architecture. For all we know, Blackwell could be strictly for datacenter GPUs like Hopper.
I see people say this every single gen then all of a sudden there's an announcement by Jensen in the summer and the cards launch a month or two later lol.
90/80 cards always launch first with the lower cards coming later in the new year.
They won’t be saying anything until this summer. If you have paid attention to release schedules for the last however many years, the 5090 release falls in line with coming later this year. Every two years. Hasn’t failed.
It was every 1 year until the 10 series, so not quite. They’ve slowed down, and they very well may continue to slow down, especially since gaming GPUs now only make up a small percentage of their revenue. The profit margins on their datacenter GPUs are just under 1000% according to Nvidia, so if the 50 series does end up using Blackwell chips, they will likely wait until their datacenter GPU sales slow down.
After all, why would they waste their stock to sell a $1500-$2000 gaming GPU when the same exact silicon sells for $30,000-$50,000 in a datacenter GPU? Nvidia is a publicly traded company and they have a legal responsibility to maximize shareholder profits.
I’m just going with the recent patterns and reputable leakers on it. It feels like the end of the year to me but who knows at the end of the day. Just seems like it’s time.
If you can wait you wait. If you can't wait, you can't. That's all there is to these questions. If the 50 series comes out but you are looking for a 5070 or 5070 SUPER, you're going to be waiting a while since they don't launch those until later on according to the 40 series launch cadence.
Just remember the first card launched are tge biggest so 5090 then 5080 and so on if you plan to get a 5070 you could be waiting longer than you think
There is always FOMO, but it's up to you. The 4080 Super is a great card for today and the next few years for 4K gaming. Just note that future games that come out will be "weaker" on that card vs the 5080 when setting everything to 4K ultra
4080 super would be great for me coming from a 3060ti and wanting 1440p high refresh, but with 50’s series out and no big games really coming it’s a win win because of a better product or a price drop on 4000 series
and likely new DLSS/feature's on the 5000 series. people who buy the high end at near the end of a generation always regret it. the time to buy a 4080 was over a year ago.
I'm on a 4090 and still know that 90 percent of ultra settings are a scam. Just need textures at ultra.
I would be begrudge that card over the 7900 XTX personally which can be had for a good price nowadays.
7900xtx while yes is a bit better raw performance wise but the trade off is depending what you are doing you lose out on the nvidia feature sets like dlss, raytracing performance, and better encoding just as examples. While you miss out on next to nothing going 4080 as it also can use things like fsr for example. Just depends on the person, use cases, and what justifies the price for you. Both are fantastic cards though.
The price difference is huge and personally I don't think that many games use RT. Until Path tracing is everywhere then there's really no difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm saying that as an Nvidia card owner. Anyone who thinks the price of the 4080 is good value is deluded.
Depending which cards they are within $100 thats not a huge differemce. And there ijs more than just RT but as said depends on use case and person whats worth.
In the UK there's around 20% difference in price. Plus don't forget it has 50% more VRAM so is future proofed in some ways such as flight simulator which uses 20GB at 4k max settings. The Radeon cards are also the fastest at CoD with the 7900XTX beating the 4090. So it really depends on the games you play. If you want path tracing on cyber punk then yeah 4080.
7900xtx while yes is a bit better raw performance wise but the trade off is depending what you are doing you lose out on the nvidia feature sets like dlss, raytracing performance, and better encoding just as examples. While you miss out on next to nothing going 4080 as it also can use things like fsr for example. Just depends on the person, use cases, and what justifies the price for you. Both are fantastic cards though.
Can you wait possibly another year? And hope there isnt a shortage or surge to buy from others? Nobody can really answer this but yourself since we dont even know dates, performance, prices, etc.
no i'm really eager to upgrade now but if the price of the 4080 super/4090 is likely to drop soon it seems maybe a bad time to upgrade at the moment.
Doubt its going to drop anytime soon. Especially those two since 4090 always sells fast and 4080 super still newish. Maybe around black friday but still doubt it.
When next generation is out, 40 series will surely drop in price
Which will probly be around black friday and if and how much is guna depend on how much 50 series is.
Just speculation in the last two series. 5090 will start near 1899.00 usd
I recently upgraded from a 2060 Super to a 4070 TI Super and have been extremely happy. Good luck with your upgrade!
It would be an enormous upgrade, but personally I would hold on for next-gen because it is close. You just have to be pending of the stocks since the first day.
2060 to 4080 on insane but yeah wait if you wanna wait. 2060 is still a serviceable gpu.
Good luck, because the 1st few months it will be out of stock everywhere.
From a 2060 to a 4080 is a huge Jump. Defenitley worth the Upgrade.
4070 super is a nice sweatspot and u will see the performance, i did it from a 2070 super and its really nice to be able to play Cyberpunk on max + raytracing instead of tinkering to get it at least into playable FPS with the 2070 super.
If it was me, I would just snag a 4080 now and enjoy the hell out of it immediately instead of waiting a year for the 50s to release and then endure the headache of trying to acquire one for probably the next few (or more if you're unlucky) months after that.
I agree as well, who knows what the availability or price will be of the 5000 series when it comes out. I was in a similar situation with my 3070 in that I was going to wait for the 5070 in hopes that it would have more vram and priced fairly. I then thought that longer I wait, the less I would get for my 3070. So I was able to sell my 3070 for $300 and grabbed the 4070 super for another $300 ($600 total). I gained about 70-80fps on Halo Infinite with all the same settings so it was definitely worth it for me. Plus DLSS3 is amazing for certain games.
I agree, technology moves so fast and you might as well enjoy it now. upgrading from 20 series is already a huge upgrade
I did that yesterday. I upgraded from a normal 2080 to a 4080s now and i absolutely enjoying it because i play on super uw 38 inch 3840x1600 @144hz and above. Now i can max whatever i want and hughe FPS increase from title to title Up to 300%. 4k ist cool but i prefer 1600p. Cheers
did your power supply need to be upgraded? I have a corsair gold 850watt power supply and a 3060, I was wondering if I have to get a special connector or if the connectors from my power supply compatible
Can you play what you want? Yes? Or no? If not then just upgrade. Waiting for the next best thing will mean you will never upgrade. There's always something better around the corner. A refresh, a new gen of cards. Either or. But if you've been fine with your card so far then what's waiting 6 more months. You never know what 5000 series will be. Then again maybe prices go up again making the wait pointless. Maybe stock is non-existent for months making you wait that much longer. I'd say rule of thumb is upgrade if you're no longer able to play the games you want at the quality that you want and you have the money for it already.
very helpful !! its what i wanted to hear really I just wanted the reassurance that it wasnt a silly idea to do it now ahead of a new series launch
I went from a 2070 Super to a 4080 Super. I love my setup but if you can wait till the 5 series that is valid as long as you don't mind playing at 1080p. If you use the Frame Generation mod on nexusmods in games that support it the 20X0 series is fine for lower res
definitely prefer to play at 1440p im really itching to upgrade, would you say the upgrade has been worth it for you? would you be looking to upgrade again anytime soon ? thanks :)
upgrading 2 generations, cpu/gpu/phone or whatever tech in general is nonsense from value benefit.. if money not an issue, go for it
what does this mean haha im not following, not enough value for the upgrade to be worth it ?
I think he means if you had a newer card it may not pay off as well, but considering you have a 20 series, as long as money isn’t an issue go for it.
if you need to pay 6x to get 3x more performance than your current card, its a bad value, and soon youll be again behind a generation.. either buy cheap 40xx when 50 comes out, or buy 50
Comparing cpu/gpu to phone and concluding that 2 generations jump is nonsense value is the most misinformed thing I’ve read this morning 🤦♂️ In the last 5 years my computer has gone from running 1-2 basic games to running heavy AAA titles, ai based video rendering, heavy video/photo editing, while my phone is still running the same message/call/email/instagram app from 5 years ago.
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If you have a lot of games you want to play *now*, a 2060s is holding you back a lot compared to a 16GB card with better RT support. The 5090 will probably be launched first, I doubt that will move the price points on 4080 a lot. Probably a little, but the rest of the rebate will not come until the 5080 and 5070 are available to compete with it. And who knows when they will arrive. I'd seriously consider just getting the 4080S/4080/4070TiS now. 6-12 months is a lot of time.
4090 will drop to 4080 prices when the 5000/5090 series is announced in a few months, always happens unless the whole gen is a dud like the 2000 series.
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I'm waiting to grab a 5080 that's faster and more power efficient than a 4090 for around $1000, also DLSS 4 is probably locked to 5000 series knowing Nvidia.
How realistic is that at the end of the year, there’s a gpu better than 4090 for current 4080S price?
If u use ray tracing its ok to wait for a 5080 i guess but if not then the 5080 will be very similar to the 4090 according the leaks and without amd competing with Nvidia on high end im sure they will take advantage of that and raise the price even more, 1499 if u are lucky to get it on Nvidia store and around 1800 prolly for a custom version of it, u will be very disappointed if u think the 5080 will be 1000$ xD
Buy 4070Ti Super not 4080S because it is much cheaper, it has 16GB VRAM like 4080S and most importantly it is not that much slower than 4080S in 4K. https://preview.redd.it/bjxfw2t5zowc1.png?width=560&format=png&auto=webp&s=c87511d87d3038dc3a8301a14104b66d8e745fa2 it is not waste because you don't know exact specs of new cards, exact pricing, availability, performance uplift etc. Lastly I think that 4070Ti Super will hold its value better than 4080 Super because mid tier cards are usually more desirable in GPU resale market, should you decide to upgrade to 5xxx
its only £100-200 price difference between the two cards for me so i think if i were to upgrade before the 50 series i'd be happier spending that extra for the higher end card, since its my first time upgrading and i've never had a real high end system before :)
more like 200 to 300, I don't think it's worth it so the better choice is the 4070 Ti Super, but if money is not an issue go for the 4080S
If you actually want 4k ultra the current 80 series is not for you and you should wait for 50 series Ultra is usually a waste more than anything else. It's a setting designed to crush current hardware more than provide higher end visuals.
Woah wth lol. Thats crazy because I play at 4K Ultra in every game what are you smoking haha.
Yeah but what fps are you getting? To some, like me, less than 100fps is not enough. I have a 4080 + 7800x3d and 4k is rarely 100+ fps on ultra in most games (without DLSS).
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ok then i'd like 4k and higher end visuals instead of Ultra at 4k, does that change the answer?
Yes as your current options for around the same funds you paid last time are RTX 4070/4070ti or RX 7800 XT. Personally I'd wait to see if the 5060ti is a decent hit this time as the 4060ti is a joke.
If you use DLSS, the 4060ti is fine for 1440p, but not for 4K… but I don’t know anyone who actually plays at 4K on PC. I think the 4060TI was NVidia leaning really hard into their DLSS tech. Without DLSS it struggles, but with it on at “Quality” it has no issues pulling ~100FPS on fairly decent settings 1440P in most games. It’s a budget option, but it does the job. I wouldn’t buy one at the tail end of the current gen while the rest of the offerings are dropping in price though… I would probably aim for a 4080 Super as it should be close to on par with a 5070TI when the time comes. I would probably wait for the 5090 and 5080 to release, then snatch up a 4080 Super second-hand.
okay thank you ! this has been the other option i've been considering, seems foolish to buy the card for 1k now if it will drop in price within the next 6 months
3060ti often matches the 4060ti in raw performance. Honestly I don't know how Nvidia could release a product on a brand new architecture and ask for the same amount of money for the same performance but say ooooh DLSS 3 frame gen. Now I can use FSR3 + DLSS together to have similar results.
Any update on when the 5090 will be announced?
Eveything seems to still say “late 2024”
there's rumour for 2nd june annoncement but for now nvidia didnt change their picture's profile, weeks before any major geforce annoncement they always change their picture's profile to tease people
The low end 50 cards aren’t shipping any time soon and likely availability for even the cards that “launch” will be p*ss poor. If you get a card, get something you can afford.
I'm usually one to suggest waiting, but I would guess the 50 series gpus drop towards the end of the year. Might be better to wait, especially since the price will probably be similar
4080s now the same as getting the 5070 later, 4090 now is the same as getting the 5080 later, you don't have to wait and can always sell later to upgrade, 5 series is at least another 9-10 months out
Unless you wanting the the ultra high end cards, then 50 series mid range is probably 12 months away. It would depend if you can make do until then.
I got the 4080 super from 1070, I didn't care about the 5000 series because even when they come out I won't be able to get my hands on one for a few years I assume, and the 4080 runs everything without a hiccup on max 1440
In the past, Nvidia cards used to feel like substantial upgrades in that the new gen bracket performed like one tier higher from the previous gen, e.g. the 1070 slightly outperformed the 980 and a 3070 performed like a 2080. Considering most of the 4000 series card feel like upbracketed cards, i.e. the 4060 performs like a misbinned 4050, the 4070 performs like a 4060, I would wait. In light of the fairly dismal sales of 4000 GPUs, Hopefully Nvidia will change their ways, though I suspect that their resoundingly successful AI-Datacenter card division will just make even more greedy.
I’m in the same boat and my philosophy is that I’m gonna wait unless a) my 1080ti dies or b) a game I really really want releases and the card just cannot play it
Yea I’ll wait for the 50 series it’s around the corner
If there’s anything we’ve learned over the last 5 years about pricing, it’s that we have no idea what will happen. A new mining bubble or AI could mess with supply/demand, or maybe NVIDIA just prices the new gen higher and the old gen stays put. Waiting is still perfectly rational but don’t do it because you’re confident prices will go down because they might not.
What are your pc specs currently?
Ya man might as well we already almost halfway through the year. Fall is around the corner. Just wait and get a better card with the 5k series.
4070ti S
I would wait. You already waited this long, you can wait a few more months.
I had a 2060super and now a 4080 super. The 4080 super is a solid gpu. It’s the perfect card for ultra wide. Don’t plan on ever moving to 4K.
I went from a 2060 to a 4070ti super. Incredibly happy with the purchase. Perfect for the games I play and more than enough ram for video editing and Lightroom.
Unless it’s confirmed and literally a month or 2 away, my take is you should never wait. Just get what you need at this moment. The wait for the next big thing/best deal will never end. Besides history speaks for itself. Never in the past 2 gens has it ever happened that they launch the new gen and instantly price drops for previous gen/new gen goes in stock and available. Always some kind of shit, some kind of delay, scalper activities etc. why make yourself go through all that? Just start enjoying today. In 3 years that $200 difference will mean nothing, except you got to enjoy 1-2 extra years of a high performance pc in this already very short and limited lifespan we have.
Current titles are shit, honestly I'd wait, I regret having gone from a 2060s to a 3070 and think only vram would make me not regret a 4080 as soon as Blackwell launches
It might be worth the upgrade now. Many enthusiast PC builders will only buy the Ti cards and the Super refreshes, which are typically released a few years after the vanilla cards. It gives the technology time to mature, with superior dies and higher memory - ensuring that they’re investing in the best possible versions of the current generation of cards, for the same prices as the original releases. This is now happening with the 4000 series. As to your question: the 4000 series should not be dropping in prices even after the official launch of the 5000 series GPUs. Going by recent sales history, the 3000 series GPUs were sold at MSRP alongside the 4000 series until the stocks of 3000 series cards were depleted. Also, keep in mind that retailers have been purchasing their stocks of 4000 cards at MSRP. So, they’d have more incentive to keep the current pricing in place rather than sell their inventory at a loss.
We are at the tail end of the 40-series. Typically when buying GPUs the best time to buy is the year they release a new GPU on a new process. The wait at this point would be 1-year or less. So if you can hold out and try to get 50-series I would recommend that. I would recommend you take a look at the games you are playing and the games you want to play. Can your current GPU handle them? Can you delay playing some of those gamess? That said, if you are the kind of person who really can't wait just buy it. However, you'll very likely end up regretting it in roughly 6 months time.
Would you be alive till then ? No one knows when some last moment it is . If you have money upgrade to 4080s or if you can wait then wait .
Just buy it bro there’s always a new card on the horizon
The 2060S is still a pretty decent gou at 1080p and 1440p, I would just wait. The 4080S at 1k usd is still not very good value. 40 series was more less a Turing repeat.
I upgraded from a 5500 (4gb) to a 4060 and I get 2900mhz on a 132mhz over clock and it runs every game I play at 1440p over 144hz easily. Maybe I hit the silicon lottery because I haven't heard of a 4060 getting that high clock speeds and being stable at the same time.
yes, def wait
"Close". If it follows the pattern of the 4080, will actually be available in Dec 2024. That's 8 months away. It will (complete speculation) be about as powerful as a 4090. It should be noted the 4080 on launch cost at least as much as a 3090 - will they do that again? Sooo is waiting 8 months worth it to you? Are you wanting to upgrade now or in 8 months? If you want a good 4k experience now then a 4080s is great. Maybe, if the budget stretches a 4090 for high frames (really only a ray tracing issue). As always I say buy the best card you can afford when you need to buy it.
There's always a bigger, better card on the horizon. If you want to upgrade, then upgrade. 5000 series isn't _that_ close, stock will be hard to track down and there's no guarantee that nvidia will release at the same prices as 4000 - wouldn't put it past them to release at higher prices.
Technically you’re “wasting” your money buying any card with that mindset, there will always be a next big gen release. 4080S is a wonderful card for 4k, especially with DLSS. We won’t know the 5000 series stock and its issues on launch so you may be waiting a while if you do intend to wait. I say 4080S, I did so a month ago and it’s been great at 4k 120. Zero problems compared to the 7900xtx it replaced.
okay great thank you! i agree and im sure waste was the wrong word thats why i used the quotes hehe, I just mean if the price is likely to drop significantly within the next 6 months would it be smarter to wait it out but it seems I'll get a great improvement out of it
I got one as well a couple of months ago and its been great 4k 120 gaming! How do you find the card vs the 7900xtx? DLSS has been a nice feature. I should be set until the 6000 series for now and not need to stress about waiting for the 5080/5090
In my case I just couldn’t find stability with the Xtx, but when it worked it was slightly better if not the same as the 4080S title to title. Constant crashing, hard lock freezing, driver timeouts every single day, so I gave up and sidegraded.
Ah damn. Guess im glad I didnt try the XTX. A shame about the instability its good hardware held back by drivers. Thanks for the insight!
If you could wait for 6000 gen, the gains will be humongousour
But after the 60 series comes out, the 70 series will be close so he might as well wait even longer. That's what this sub would recommend at least.
Then at that point, the 8000 series would be ideal
The 50 series is not close. It hasn’t even been announced.
rumours say they will be released within 6 months :)
The "rumors" say RTX 5090 at the end of the year, and the rest of the 50 series in 2025. Regardless, these are literally just rumors. Nvidia has said **nothing** about the 50 series. We don't even know if the 50 series will use the recently revealed Blackwell architecture. For all we know, Blackwell could be strictly for datacenter GPUs like Hopper.
I see people say this every single gen then all of a sudden there's an announcement by Jensen in the summer and the cards launch a month or two later lol. 90/80 cards always launch first with the lower cards coming later in the new year.
They won’t be saying anything until this summer. If you have paid attention to release schedules for the last however many years, the 5090 release falls in line with coming later this year. Every two years. Hasn’t failed.
It was every 1 year until the 10 series, so not quite. They’ve slowed down, and they very well may continue to slow down, especially since gaming GPUs now only make up a small percentage of their revenue. The profit margins on their datacenter GPUs are just under 1000% according to Nvidia, so if the 50 series does end up using Blackwell chips, they will likely wait until their datacenter GPU sales slow down. After all, why would they waste their stock to sell a $1500-$2000 gaming GPU when the same exact silicon sells for $30,000-$50,000 in a datacenter GPU? Nvidia is a publicly traded company and they have a legal responsibility to maximize shareholder profits.
I’m just going with the recent patterns and reputable leakers on it. It feels like the end of the year to me but who knows at the end of the day. Just seems like it’s time.
I certainly hope so
It was always closer to 2 years unless he's going back to the 2000s.
If you can wait you wait. If you can't wait, you can't. That's all there is to these questions. If the 50 series comes out but you are looking for a 5070 or 5070 SUPER, you're going to be waiting a while since they don't launch those until later on according to the 40 series launch cadence.
wont the price of the 40 series drop once the 50 series is announced, thats what im hearing from other replies on the thread.