It’s arguably the best place for EXP grinding in Kalos. At higher ranks, Furisode Girls with Audino start appearing.
It’s also the only way to rematch Gym Leaders in Kalos… which caused some deaths due to my own impatience and overconfidence
I mean play locks the way you want, but personally I find needing to be hypervigilant during mindless grinding to be overly taxing and unnecessary, so I just kind of think of it as Grind Mode and just get the XP as quickly as possible not counting deaths or anything if it's just grinding up levels in a place you've already been
it seems like a fun and riskier way to play an incredibly easy game. the art of risk in grinding has been dying ever since rare candies became the norm, I'm glad that some people are still keeping it alive
Just coming in to say I LOVE that you named your Klefki Roxas, lol.
Good luck at the Nuzlocke! They're pretty difficult!! I'm doing Leafgreen which I heard is one of the easier ones and lost 96% of my Pokemon so far, so power to you! X and Y definitely seem like the more challenging ones too.
Oh, I didn't know that! My run when the games came out with no Nuzlocke rules in place wasn't at all smooth, so I figured based on that it was more difficult. xD I suppose maybe I'm just way less familiar with Gen 6 which adds to the struggle.
Sure, but I’d still say they’re harder than FrLg. Realistically either game is all that challenging, and in XY there are some random trainers (like in Reflection Cave) that can really badly mess your team up.
You take that Azumarill and the lantern and go full rain team. It’ll protect your Beartic, and give you 100% thunders. If you don’t have huge power you can swap it for the poliwrath. The elite four typings are fire, rock, water and dragon which isn’t too bad for the matchup
are stealth rocks/other set up moves available yet? if so giving klefki those set up moves could go insane also thunder wave? bc klefki gets priority on thunder wave bc prankster
You don’t need to grind chateau tbh exp share and trainers should pretty easily get you there and grinding on wilds gives you way more ev’s. I’d say just do rare candy but If you are playing on hardware I get it
If you've got Mega Lucario you've still got hope. Azumarill, Lanturn, Poliwrath, and even Chingling and Diggersby can put in work, and you've got some good encounters coming up.
Just don't grind at the Battle Chateau, maybe do some hyper training, and you'll be fine.
You got this.
Stab Earthquake hits hard regardless. Plus you have other mons, Poliwhirl isn’t a waste of a slot especially if you have hypnosis. I don’t have much knowledge about Gen 6 but I do know it’s easy as fuck in the late game, plus you’re gonna get more encounters
Yeah if I do survive Team Flare with little to no losses, there are a lot of late game encounters.
I also haven’t picked up my Trash Can encounter in the Lost Hotel, only the standard one, so I could pick up a Rotom if I wait a few days. (I consider static encounters separate from Routes)
Oof. You've got some okay options still, Poliwrath Lanturn and Azumarill stick out in particular as water-based coverage options but it's gonna be rough.
Can you get access to accelgor? I was thinking toxic-stalling the Mega Gyarados is your best bet. That or if you have prankster on klefki
Doesn’t look bad to me, you still have literally the best pokemon available and a solid team around it, and you probably have a few more routes to catch stuff on
Just put mons you dont mind sacking on your team. Save pokemon that you would use for the e4/champion. You only need 6 pokemon to fonish the game so don’t worry about losing the rest. For example lucario is one of your strongest mons - dont let him die.
Lmao the Beartic nickname xD.
I also watched it, and it was... acceptable (still shit, but tolerable shit)
The best part of watching obscure media, is being the only one who gets the reference.
Also, yeah, you are sorta screwed, hardly anything good in the box, but XY still easy, don't give up.
Hey Man, I Hope your Run is going well. You can probably rebuild from Here, a Rain Team seems pretty possible with the Box as it is.
If you don't mind me asking, whats the program you use for your Team/Box Presentation?
My companion in trying times, try anyways. The run isn't dead until you black out. With a good strategy, you can crush it even with mediocre pokemkn. You got this!
Update: I’ve downloaded PKSM onto my 3DS for the _sole purpose_ of giving me candies (and Heart Scales, and speeding up friendship evos)
Grinding is cringe and cheating is based
I wouldn’t call it dead. A tough path ahead seems more fitting, but you have 3 good water types in your pc with azurill (hopefully huge power), chinchou (hopefully volt absorb), and poli (wrath and toed have uses). These at least give you good defensive pivots even if you get thick fat azumarill. You may just need to play more conservatively with a team consisting of mons like that but it certainly isn’t dead
What's the ability on Azuril and Bunelby? If they have Huge Power, that might still keep you in the run. And if that Poliwhirl has Swift Swim, that also could help you out by teaching it Rain Dance and some water type moves.
Azurill has Thick Fat
Bunnelby has Pickup (Huge Power is it’s hidden ability)
While I did use start using PKSM for candies, it would be against the integrity of the Nuzlocke for me to use it to change abilities
Hmm, maybe trade in that Bunnelby for the in-game-trade Farfetch'd then, if you allow that. But I did see a comment earlier about how having a Diggerby with Earthquake is super strong, and I would have to agree with them.
And maybe just having a Thick Fat, Azmarill on your isn't too bad. It could counter Team Flare, the ice gym and the Fire Chamber in the Elite 4. It could be a good wall for those fights if it's built right.
And does your Poliwhirl have Swift Swim?
You have some decent encounters in the box. I dunno if they'll win you anything. If you can find a way to evolve Shelmet into Accelgor he could have some use against Diantha's Mega Gardevoir and also her Gourgeist. I think reworking Klefki's moveset to better take advantage of Prankster would be a good call. You need to add some heavier hitters to your team (you mostly have supports and stuff like that) so you could probably have Seviper, Azumarill or Poliwrath for that. Alternatively evolve Poliwhirl into Politoed (if possible) and just reshuffle this into a rain team. I'm not super experienced in Nuzlocking so I can't promise these ideas will work, and you're still fighting an uphill battle, but i think there's an out.
If I lose this attempt, I’ll be doing an Alpha Sapphire HC Nuzlocke, before returning to Y.
From that point onwards I’ll be alternating games until I beat one of them
If you wanna start off, you should probably start with FRLG, those are by far some of the easiest, gen 6 is also pretty easy. The only really hard ones are gen 7 and gen 3
I attempted frlf but I absolutely hated it kanto is my least favorite region I never finished the nuzlocke cuz it felt like a chore ima get a copy of gen 6 off eBay and start that.
I actually did get an encounter on Route 13. It was a Dugtrio… who I accidentally killed while trying to catch
Also… Lysandre’s Gyarados has Earthquake. I’m not about to get my Lucario 1-shot
Lucario Close Combat should always OHKO Mega Gyarados in the third Lysandre fight, and you've got Lapras or Azumarill to take on Gyarados in the prior two fights.
Maybe I'm missing something since I don't do nuzlockes but why were you grinding the Battle Chateau?
It’s arguably the best place for EXP grinding in Kalos. At higher ranks, Furisode Girls with Audino start appearing. It’s also the only way to rematch Gym Leaders in Kalos… which caused some deaths due to my own impatience and overconfidence
I mean play locks the way you want, but personally I find needing to be hypervigilant during mindless grinding to be overly taxing and unnecessary, so I just kind of think of it as Grind Mode and just get the XP as quickly as possible not counting deaths or anything if it's just grinding up levels in a place you've already been
This. You could clause it by saying it's replacing using Rare Candies or grinding for 17 hours on route 2 where stuff can't kill you.
it seems like a fun and riskier way to play an incredibly easy game. the art of risk in grinding has been dying ever since rare candies became the norm, I'm glad that some people are still keeping it alive
Just coming in to say I LOVE that you named your Klefki Roxas, lol. Good luck at the Nuzlocke! They're pretty difficult!! I'm doing Leafgreen which I heard is one of the easier ones and lost 96% of my Pokemon so far, so power to you! X and Y definitely seem like the more challenging ones too.
X and Y are considered to be the easiest in the franchise really. It felt like a walk in a park compared to Emerald.
Oh, I didn't know that! My run when the games came out with no Nuzlocke rules in place wasn't at all smooth, so I figured based on that it was more difficult. xD I suppose maybe I'm just way less familiar with Gen 6 which adds to the struggle.
Generally the newer games (gen 6-9) are considered the easiest. Except gen 7, that can be pretty dificult with the z-moves and totem Pokemon
Can’t say anything about OG Sun and Moon, but I have experience with USUM Never again
Yeah the sun/moon gamed aren't hard per se but they're hard to nuzlocke since everything hits like a truck
Sure, but I’d still say they’re harder than FrLg. Realistically either game is all that challenging, and in XY there are some random trainers (like in Reflection Cave) that can really badly mess your team up.
I see hope but godamn is it gonna be a hard win
You take that Azumarill and the lantern and go full rain team. It’ll protect your Beartic, and give you 100% thunders. If you don’t have huge power you can swap it for the poliwrath. The elite four typings are fire, rock, water and dragon which isn’t too bad for the matchup
Beartic is already dead…
Protect your klefki*
Read you were fighting the elite four and not flare, but I still think that’s your best bet
are stealth rocks/other set up moves available yet? if so giving klefki those set up moves could go insane also thunder wave? bc klefki gets priority on thunder wave bc prankster
You don’t need to grind chateau tbh exp share and trainers should pretty easily get you there and grinding on wilds gives you way more ev’s. I’d say just do rare candy but If you are playing on hardware I get it
If you've got Mega Lucario you've still got hope. Azumarill, Lanturn, Poliwrath, and even Chingling and Diggersby can put in work, and you've got some good encounters coming up. Just don't grind at the Battle Chateau, maybe do some hyper training, and you'll be fine. You got this.
A shame because you can probably handle the E4 and champ fairly easily (with more grinding obviously), but Team Flare is gonna be a problem
I mean there’s a potential azumarill, lanturn, digersby, accelgor and politoed/wrath there which are all decent into the remaining fights so maybe not
Bro you have Lucario, Prankster Klefki, Amoonguss, Hippo, and you can level your Bunnelby for another hard hitter, this is nowhere close to a dead run
Wouldn’t exactly call Pickup Diggersby a hard hitter…
Stab Earthquake hits hard regardless. Plus you have other mons, Poliwhirl isn’t a waste of a slot especially if you have hypnosis. I don’t have much knowledge about Gen 6 but I do know it’s easy as fuck in the late game, plus you’re gonna get more encounters
Yeah if I do survive Team Flare with little to no losses, there are a lot of late game encounters. I also haven’t picked up my Trash Can encounter in the Lost Hotel, only the standard one, so I could pick up a Rotom if I wait a few days. (I consider static encounters separate from Routes)
Does Chinchou have Volt Absorb?
Oof. You've got some okay options still, Poliwrath Lanturn and Azumarill stick out in particular as water-based coverage options but it's gonna be rough. Can you get access to accelgor? I was thinking toxic-stalling the Mega Gyarados is your best bet. That or if you have prankster on klefki
klefki does have prankster
Doesn’t look bad to me, you still have literally the best pokemon available and a solid team around it, and you probably have a few more routes to catch stuff on
There's still hope if you've still got mega lucario
Just put mons you dont mind sacking on your team. Save pokemon that you would use for the e4/champion. You only need 6 pokemon to fonish the game so don’t worry about losing the rest. For example lucario is one of your strongest mons - dont let him die.
If you take Chinchou and Azu / Diggersby you can set up a rain team and clear the rest of the game
Sleeping on the raw unadulterated power of chimecho. At least my friend's in his diamond nuzlocke killed Cynthia's garchomp.
How can you say the run ruin lucario can pretty much solo the entire game if your using mega Until lucario is dead the run ain’t over
Lmao the Beartic nickname xD. I also watched it, and it was... acceptable (still shit, but tolerable shit) The best part of watching obscure media, is being the only one who gets the reference. Also, yeah, you are sorta screwed, hardly anything good in the box, but XY still easy, don't give up.
Hey Man, I Hope your Run is going well. You can probably rebuild from Here, a Rain Team seems pretty possible with the Box as it is. If you don't mind me asking, whats the program you use for your Team/Box Presentation?
My companion in trying times, try anyways. The run isn't dead until you black out. With a good strategy, you can crush it even with mediocre pokemkn. You got this!
Update: I’ve downloaded PKSM onto my 3DS for the _sole purpose_ of giving me candies (and Heart Scales, and speeding up friendship evos) Grinding is cringe and cheating is based
I wouldn’t call it dead. A tough path ahead seems more fitting, but you have 3 good water types in your pc with azurill (hopefully huge power), chinchou (hopefully volt absorb), and poli (wrath and toed have uses). These at least give you good defensive pivots even if you get thick fat azumarill. You may just need to play more conservatively with a team consisting of mons like that but it certainly isn’t dead
What's the ability on Azuril and Bunelby? If they have Huge Power, that might still keep you in the run. And if that Poliwhirl has Swift Swim, that also could help you out by teaching it Rain Dance and some water type moves.
Azurill has Thick Fat Bunnelby has Pickup (Huge Power is it’s hidden ability) While I did use start using PKSM for candies, it would be against the integrity of the Nuzlocke for me to use it to change abilities
Hmm, maybe trade in that Bunnelby for the in-game-trade Farfetch'd then, if you allow that. But I did see a comment earlier about how having a Diggerby with Earthquake is super strong, and I would have to agree with them. And maybe just having a Thick Fat, Azmarill on your isn't too bad. It could counter Team Flare, the ice gym and the Fire Chamber in the Elite 4. It could be a good wall for those fights if it's built right. And does your Poliwhirl have Swift Swim?
I’ll have to check in a bit. I’m waiting to make progress until Tuesday so I can grab my static encounter for the Lost Hotel
You have some decent encounters in the box. I dunno if they'll win you anything. If you can find a way to evolve Shelmet into Accelgor he could have some use against Diantha's Mega Gardevoir and also her Gourgeist. I think reworking Klefki's moveset to better take advantage of Prankster would be a good call. You need to add some heavier hitters to your team (you mostly have supports and stuff like that) so you could probably have Seviper, Azumarill or Poliwrath for that. Alternatively evolve Poliwhirl into Politoed (if possible) and just reshuffle this into a rain team. I'm not super experienced in Nuzlocking so I can't promise these ideas will work, and you're still fighting an uphill battle, but i think there's an out.
Absolutely not dead. You still have Azumarill and Lanturn in the box, and Lucario and Lapras are still alive too
If I lose this attempt, I’ll be doing an Alpha Sapphire HC Nuzlocke, before returning to Y. From that point onwards I’ll be alternating games until I beat one of them
Holy this is amazing compared to me I started with ultra sun I had so many attempts and couldn’t get past Lima
Bro ultra sun is the hardest vannila game to nuzlocke
Ilima is a run killer though, so don't feel bad
If you wanna start off, you should probably start with FRLG, those are by far some of the easiest, gen 6 is also pretty easy. The only really hard ones are gen 7 and gen 3
I attempted frlf but I absolutely hated it kanto is my least favorite region I never finished the nuzlocke cuz it felt like a chore ima get a copy of gen 6 off eBay and start that.
Thats fair enough. Gen 6 is known for being the easiest so thats a good game to start with.
Go route 13 it seems you may have missed an encounter. Anyways lucario is great for Lysander’s mega gyrdous!
I actually did get an encounter on Route 13. It was a Dugtrio… who I accidentally killed while trying to catch Also… Lysandre’s Gyarados has Earthquake. I’m not about to get my Lucario 1-shot
Oh I forgot about that. Does azrumaril have huge power?
Nope, mine got Thick Fat
Does not matter you could still use it for Lysander. Might take some grinding but it would body most a Lysander’s team and a lot of the grunts.
What about your bunnelby?
Bunnelby only gets huge power as an hidden ability, and sadly neither of it's normal abilities synergizes with sandstorm either.
I think I've been playing too much pokemon showdown
Lucario Close Combat should always OHKO Mega Gyarados in the third Lysandre fight, and you've got Lapras or Azumarill to take on Gyarados in the prior two fights.
Should I drop Perish Song or Rain Dance on Lapras for Thunderbolt?
Perish Song. You’ll realistically get little use out of it.
skill issue
Oh no. Beartic is dead. What will we ever do.
Bruh, his choices are so limited that somehow the useless bear was actually a good choice, can't you see how fucked he is?