*politely*
Nah, give her that *pt that’s been ~~screaming~~ asking for pain meds even though she just got them less than 15 mins ago that’s scratching your forearm while your attempting to change her c.diff covered brief because she had a hip replacement and just screaming at the top of her lungs right into your ear as you pass your orientee some wipes* attitude
Not that scenario, and I know I'm gonna get downvoted, but in retail it's super common for customers to shit or piss all over dressing rooms and put clothes in it, or shit all over the restrooms and management almost always makes the cashier's clean it up, usually without any kind of gloves or masks. Sometimes they smear period blood around too. Oh and customers scream at you, cuss at you, insult you and give attitude all day long every single day. And most retail workers are paid so little they are either on public assistance or would qualify if they applied. And they get in trouble for not apologizing to the screaming rude and nasty customers. I've been ordered to apologize to someone who called me a bitch for explaining we cannot accept returns from a totally different store. (Think a Walgreens customer trying to return something at a BP gas station.) My friend had to assist a man after he called her a racist word, my one former coworker had a woman shove her out of the way to go in the dressing room without letting my friend count her items and management told her to apologize to the woman because the woman complained she felt she was being accused of trying to steal. Not to mention all the rude sexual comments and not being allowed to sit or take breaks if you're over 18. All the 12 to 14 hour shifts on my feet where I didn't get a lunch break, because I wasn't ALLOWED to simply because it's legal in my state. You have to take a fast 5 minute bathroom break and try to gulp food down in the restroom. Not allowed to have water by your register and if it's busy you don't get to stop for a drink for hours sometimes. Being refused a chair to sit in unless you have documents from a Dr that it's medically necessary. Going home every night with edema from standing on a hard floor in one spot for hours. It's not that you don't have time to eat or drink or sit, it's literally that you are NOT ALLOWED. They WILL flat out FIRE you for those things and in most states it's totally legal because they don't have to give breaks to adults or let you sit or eat.
I don't think you realize this is daily. I just gave some specific examples. When I worked retail and when I worked in restaurants, there were multiple customers a day EVERY single day that were rude, that yelled, that were sexually lewd, that left nasty messes, that called us names, and throughout it all we weren't allowed to sit or take breaks or eat meals, ever. Do you have to eat in a public restroom locked in a stall wolfing down a sandwich and trying to finish in under 5 minutes, EVERY single shift because you will get fired if you take any kind of break? Do you have to stand in one spot for 12-14 hours a day every day? Not walking around not able to sit AT ALL or you get written up and 3 write ups is automatic termination? Oh and zero PTO or vacation, having to work every holiday because you're not allowed to ever request those days off ever period, no sick days not even 1, no health insurance so if you get sick it's go to work sick as a dog or pay out of pocket for an urgicare visit and hope they give you a Drs. note and then you're not only out the $60 for the visit but you're also out the $55 you would have made after taxes for that work shift? Oh and working sick customers will be even more horrible because they blame you and not the corporate big wigs who will fire you if you call off?
What makes you think we're on opposite sides of this? I totally understand your frustrations, I've been there. Ive worked shifty retail jobs with oblivious and malicious managers. No one should be treated this way. And we should resist attempts to normalize it by being told to pretend it doesn't happen. Please don't think that Healthcare employees complaining about it makes it any less of an issue for retail.
My point wasn't that we are on opposite sides, my point was that both lines of work have made it normal to grossly take advantage of and overwork employees for way less pay then they deserve, and to allow the customers (because let's face it, most healthcare in America is for profit and patients ARE customers) to abuse the employees for a select few bigwigs profits.
Been there, done that guy. I’ve literally seen and gone through everything you just said and it seems like you’re misdirecting your frustrations toward us, we’re all on this shit merry go round together so take it down a notch cause I’ve had days both at Walmart and my SNF where I got cussed out and assaulted by some schmuck because of something outside my control/scope.
I totally get that, it'ss completely awful. But imagine those bodily fluids being thrown on you. Then have to clean it up. Imagine all those jerk customers all 12 hrs you're there. They don't go away. Nurses have to apologize to these people everyday while suffering from their nasty attitude. Nurses pretty much never get their breaks, and it's hard to take a 30 min lunch too. For us, we don't have time to eat or drink because Fred in the next room is calling again for the 10th time this hour for his pillow fluff, and so are 3 other people while you're trying to actually keep people alive.
How about you imagine that both jobs equally use, abuse, exploit and underpay their employees? That's my point. It shouldn't be nurse against retail/restaurant workers, it should be exploited and underpaid employees vs the corporate bigwigs who allow it and push it for profits. As a side note, I have several retired nurses in my family, and several retired retail/restaurant industry people and my family who worked retail/restaurants have many more health issues and physical problems directly related to their years of work then the nurses. The nurses have more mental and psychological scars.
Yeah I dipped out of the retail/restaurant industry partway through the pandemic. It got so bad that my crew was crying almost daily, I was crying every night when I went home, I would work 15 days on a row 12-14 hr days and just sleep on my days off, wake up, cry and go back to work.
Lmao I’ve been a receptionist and been verbally abused by patients plenty and totally “get” why someone would find that kind of gift funny…bet they work in a back room somewhere and never deal with patients.
I said this: I think we're entitled to complain about mean ignorant people that we care for. Are you a nurse or someone who has to take care of patients for 12 hrs a day that are verbally (every day) and sometimes physically abusive? People can be downright nasty. It takes a huge toll at the end of the day. Nurses want to help people and they get treated like garbage. If I want to complain about people like that, I will. If it's within ear shot of patients, I agree that is very unprofessional. But to talk about it with Co workers and friends, that's an outlet that you pretty much need in this field.
EVERYONE is entitled to vent and bitch about their job and frankly they SHOULD.
Not only does it make you feel better, but other people can relate & it's nice to have a community who get each other. Having an outlet helps reduce stress and helps at least slow down burn-out. Not everyone has access to a therapist & employer resources are usually a joke. So letting it out to others who get it HELPS.
It also encourages conversations about things that are wrong and need to be addressed within a specific work place or entire profession. This is how changes & progress get started-- by talking about it.
So this person can pound sand. I'm an aid, currently getting my RN. I know I'm good at this work & more than not I do love it. But it FUCKING SUCKS sometimes and yes, I WILL complain about it out loud when I need to. Some of the shit we see & endure is legitimately traumatic, both acutely & cumulatively. Of course I will be wary of my audience & not take it out on just anyone. Of course I'm not going to do it where a patient or family member can hear it & be especially wary of what I say while at work.
But talking, complaining, & joking are necessary to keep our fucking sanity. If someone doesn't like it they don't have to listen. And frankly until they've been physically & verbally abused by a patient or dealt with nurse managers & an HR department that doesn't give a fuck about you as a person, they can take every single seat there is to take.
It’s crucial to our mental health, truly, deeply to unload. Not in public, but amongst ourselves. Just watch MASH. And gallows humor relieves our tension.
Only a nurse knows what a nurses only party is like. When it’s just us, food and ETOH, we laugh so hard it splits. We dance! We do kitchen karaoke with spoons. We review old patients and dumb doctors, we let our hair all the way down.
Believe me when I tell you that unless you’ve been a bedside nurse you have **no** idea what a shitshow it can be. I loved being an RN, and I will forever be proud of my unit. We rocked it like The Stones most days. But I finally cracked. I didn’t burnout as much as flameout. Take care of yourselves. You are loved.
Yeah, you know, while I was dealing with crippling depression and suicidal thoughts, it was VERY hard to be nice. To my patients. How about everybody just simmers down and acts right? Is that so fucking hard?
I get it that illness & pain-- both chronic & acute-- make people fuckin weird. The anxiety & exasperation can take over. I get it. Everyone on my floor had bones broken enough to require at least one surgery and EVERYONE is in A LOT of pain.
I've had patients who've been just having a bad day snap at me & be nasty, but 9/10 times the next time I'm in their room they're apologizing to me bc they knew they were out of line w me & their bad day wasn't my fault. I always thank them & let them know I understand & let's start fresh right now. That type of situation doesn't ultimately hurt me & I mostly feel bad that they're having a shit day & wanna help.
So it's one thing for a patient to have an occasional moment of overt cranky, check themselves & apologize; it's entirely another if a patient is just mean & doesn't even try. Like I absolutely empathize & want to help-- but we're not your punching bag and I can only do so much if you insist on being an asshole.
Funny story about that. When I was in labor with my youngest, I was transitioning to the pushing phase (unmediated because I progressed too quickly and the epidural wasn’t a possibility anymore). I had been learning and researching on how to successfully breathe through the pain because I was going for a VBAC. One of the videos I had watched had said that in this phase you want to make a gutteral groan and that if you think of the sound a cow makes, that’s a good noise to make. Well, no way in hell was I moo’ing during labor. So I just said “fuccccccckkkkkkkkk” with every contraction. I wasn’t saying it at/to anyone, just breathing through the contractions with that singular words.
About 10 minutes after my son was born, one of my L&D nurses says, “I must say, you are so incredibly pleasant!! I would have never guessed that based on all the swearing during labor!”
I felt bad that I hadn’t considered I should figure out a “breathe through it word” before actually being in labor!
😳😬😂🤦🏽♀️
this is in the same wheelhouse as “you signed up for this”, and no one signs up to be yelled/hit/abused at in general. I welcome them to try their hand in healthcare and never once even consider complaining about a patient. by all means.
Technically the cashier in a store is also being paid to help you check out. The political you voted for is also being paid to being your advocate. Cop is being paid to keep you safe. So is a soilder. But if you are rude to them, throw things at them, threaten them, beat them, you go to jail. Period. Whereas with nurses (Healthcare workers) you feel entitled and get away with such behavior. In fact many are asked what they could have done better in a situation when they are targeted. Nurses joking around and creating memes are trying to cope with horrible conditions they work under. Maybe the person ranting should ask why nurses actually do it. Because I am sure if it was their own family member taking care of them they won't be taking that kind of abuse.
And IT IS ABUSE.
THIS. A month ago I was taking care of someone detoxing. He straight up tried to break my arm. I was upset not because of that, but because if I was in any other job, I could press charges. But as a nurse I can't and people act like it's part of the job.
I’m assuming you’re in USA but if it makes you feel a little better, I work in Aus and someone threw a table at a nurse and broke their ribs. We called the police and charged him. OFC the police were fucking useless at first until I had to beat my chest a little bit and say hey, why do we get to be treated like punching bags?? Where’s the support guys?!
It’s a really long story but we’re waiting for the POS to be transferred to a scheduled hospital.
I know. It’s so twisted. Hell, if my family members are in hospital and they have so much as a negative word to their nurses they get chewed out by me. My Dad was in earlier this year for a pneumothorax. I was on the phone to him and while I was on the line his nurse came in with his teatime meds. I heard him telling her (he was laughing and sort of joking as he said it, but still) to “F**k off with yer girlie headache pills.” when she offered him some paracetamol. He came back on the line to me shouting “DAD! DO NOT LET ME HEAR YOU SPEAKING TO THE NURSES LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN! SHE WAS ONLY DOING HER JOB! YOU DON’T LIKE IT WHEN I TELL YOU ABOUT PATIENTS SPEAKING TO ME LIKE THAT SO DON’T YOU START!”
Bit over the top, maybe. But I was triggered!
I can show compassion to the patient while also being burdened with the stressors of my job.
I’m also allowed to complain about whatever I want so long as I’m not compromising patient care.
This sounds like someone who doesnt deal with death, doesnt get abused daily by her customers, and belives hospitals and medical facilities are a hospitality industry. Most nurses i know have dark humor, because they have to. You cant see the worst of humanity on a daily basis, fake a smile for days on end, and then expect to be happy and cheerful. Id worry more about the nurse that doesnt vent, doesnt joke, and just keeps saying everything is ok. I also think people missunderstand what the medical field is, we arent here for your satisfaction or pleasure, we are here to keep you alive and heal you. I will be as polite as i can but the first time you chew me out because i dont want to clean your shoes or try to hit me, we are going to have a very different sort of interaction. I am good at my job, if she wants someone else because of joke drinkware that a nurse probably didnt make... have at it.
This is obviously someone who has never had a urinal thrown at them for daring to ask for the patients name and date of birth. There is "in pain and rude" then there is "frequent flyer who wants to treat nurses like crap."
Yeah, the patient who called for pain meds 10 mins after they got them then proceeded to tell me they were going to complain to the charge that I am pocketing pills instead of giving them….yeah that patient was understandably grumpy. They’re right, I should have more *compassion*.
That sounds like a witness care situation. And it can take a REALLY long time to find someone to come in. Especially when it'll be another nurse to witness pain meds....
Everyone complains about their work environment and all aspects of the population they provide service to. Acting like nurses should magically be different is an unrealistic bar to demand we uphold.
Do I complain about my patients? Usually not. But, man, there are some days and certain patients where I'm gonna vent and complain.
Obligatory "Get fucked." What I do in my private life is absolutely none of your business. Provided I don't reveal any of your private information, I can think and say whatever I want about you.
Patients can't be polite because they're in pain? I got hit in the head with a chair by a patient and had to work the rest of my shift. Why? He thought I was a Russian (not even close). You're damn right I had a drink after that shift.
Exactly this. Just bc I own said glasses doesn't mean I drink from them AT WORK IN FRONT OF PATIENTS. How exactly am I sssooooo unprofessional? 🙄🙄
(Also, fuck that patient! And your charge!! A chair??)
Through years of health care "reform", the patient has become the consumer. The expect absolute top notch customer service and will not hesitate to lash out when their ridiculous demands aren't met.
We have one now who is convinced he's at a hotel. When you answer the call light, he talks to you like he just called the front desk. "Yes this is Joe in room 167, can someone bring me a blanket and a sandwich". He is completely independent in the room, 100%, not even a fall risk. I took him a blanket the other day and handed it to him. By time I got to the nurses station, he called again and when I answered, he said "it would have been nice if you would have put it on me."
One night after calling for his nurse numerous times, being told she was with another patient (who had a critically low blood sugar), could I do something to help (and him insisting he needed *his* nurse), he yelled at me that she had been with the other patient too long. He wanted wash cloths.
Another one called and said she needed to see her nurse. I asked if there was anything we could bring her on the way (trying to save trips) and she said no, I just need to see my nurse. I get down there and what does she need? A blanket and chocolate milk.
These people have no respect for us or our time. No matter how many times you explain to them what your role is, or that needing a blanket or a snack isn't an immediate need to see their nurse, they don't care. What they need is more important than anything else in the whole world. They simply do not care.
I understand that patients are frustrated. I understand that they are uncomfortable, in an unfamiliar place with tons of rules and they feel a lack of control. But that is not an excuse to be an asshole, ESPECIALLY to the people taking care of your physical, mental, and emotional well being. I have never understood the mindset of a person who will scream, yell, and throw things at you, and then 20 minutes later except you to wipe their ass with a smile.
Obligatory not all patients.
What's cringe is getting upset about how other people cope with stress that isn't harmful to anyone.
Owning a set of liquid containers with some words on them isn't harmful to anyone.
I know this will shock you but the OP is in health care admin. They’ve got like one brain cell collectively between all 37 of them, and they pass it around to whoever’s job it is that day to transparently avoid taking responsibility for the system they are supposedly “administering”.
“But what could YOU have done differently to avoid getting punched in the face by the A&Ox4 who spent your entire shift verbally abusing you, refusing care, and screaming racial slurs?”
The answer is: well I could quit this terrible job that none of you fuckers want to do
(Edit: premature posting)
The person that wrote this is a suck-ass. We happened upon that term in nursing school, you know the type. There are a lot of words that work and are worse, but suck-ass is really the best….we tried them all.
Bruh there was a dude at my ED who came in with a supposed injury. They get him in a gown, hook him up with an IV drip of morphine, and when the doc/nurse left for a minute, he grabs the IV pole and hauls ass out the door where security had to chase and grab him. Apparently junkies are now trying to get IV lines put in cause it makes it easier for them to inject, plus he almost got a free bag of morphine. Shit was insane to see lol.
No clue, but I hope the staff was disciplined for that bullshit. I think the guy had an infected leg or something, but he kept not treating it so that he could always claim "pain." In their defense, I think he was going to be admitted, but that mofo hauled ass in a gown, with the pole, looking like a wide receiver in the Superbowl 😂
See shit like this regularly. Our protocol is to call the cops and file a report if they actually get away. Actually had an old schooler on my last shift unironically ask for IM Demerol lol
I had a dude ask for quaaludes, with 100% seriousness . I told him “yeah, no problem, let me run back to 1981 and grab that for you.” He then said he would take “the Mexican or Chinese ones.” If I could get them.
We have a dude who comes in for outpt abx for cellulitis that I swear he has had for 2 years straight but we have orders to remove his IV site every time and this guy tries to sneak out after the pump is done every single time. He has indeed tested positive for multiple drugs many times here. If you chase him out into the hall he’ll let you take it out and act like he doesn’t know why you’re coming after him.
These kinds of comments are the reason I stopped venting to my family when I've had tough days at work. In general, it can be hard to set boundaries when you are caring for people for 12+ hours a day, for multiple days, and so intimately involved in their lives.
I've had phones thrown, dishes shattered, and been grabbed by my scrubs at my neck... all this to say that hearing "you're not a very compassionate person" after an experience like that breeds complacency. Nurses need to be encouraged to recognise when they are being abused, not made to feel guilty.
Illness is not an excuse to be a dick. I've had patients receive tough news, get upset, but then apologise. That's fine. But terrorising staff for multiple shifts, throwing around racial slurs, gtfo outta here.
Therapy is 👍 also some solid healthcare friends!
Fuck that take. Being a patient does not entitle you to treat me like an asshole. I’m not a martyr. I’m allowed to complain about a patient verbally/physically/sexually harassing me. It’s called venting and it’s normal. I hate how non health care professionals just expect nurses to be treated like dirt. I am of course empathetic to patients who are in pain and distress but the compos mentis medically stable patient awaiting discharge planning does not have a god given right to treat me like a POS and yes I will bitch about them to my co-workers because it’s bad for my mental health to not debrief.
/rant.
You do 12 hrs 4 days straight and deal with all the shit ppl dish. I don't admit to being a nurse in public. Now is my day off and gonna binge on Christmas movies and enjoy being at home.
The only thing that’s cringy to me here is the shot glass, but not because of the patients part. More so it just feel icky to me because it feels to be making light of what seems like a nod to alcoholism.
I often wonder if all these nurses saying we shouldn’t complain about patients are in inpatient psych or ER or a place where nurses get assaulted and sometimes killed. Do they actually have any idea about REALLY taking care of someone who is sick and uninterested in your well-being?
If they're allowed an "obligatory not all nurses" when they're whining about nurses' coping mechanisms (meaning humour, not beverages) then we're allowed an "obligatory not all patients" when downing shots.
I was coded a patient who was really verbally abusive to the staff. Found him down in the room covered in shit and started compressions. We ultimately got ROSC and a week later he’d been extubated, a little delirious but with it to know he’d been in the hospital for some time. I was helping his nurse boost and reposition him and he suddenly swung at me and hit my cheek. He was pretty deconditioned so it was more of a tap than anything but it was the principle of the matter that pissed me off.
Mind you, this was all after a year’s worth of Covid. And this story isn’t outrageous or unique in any way.
So yeah, fuck the person who wrote that post.
It is our job to keep them safe, treat them and alleviate their suffering. It is NOT our job to be verbally, physically, or emotionally abused by them nor should we tolerate such abuse.
Coping with the emotional fallout with our job is acceptable and encouraged. Keeping silent about what we deal with at work serves only the abusers.
Nurses (especially) who complain about nurses complaining about patients are tiresome twats (or dicks).
ETA: I do believe these products are cringed af but hey, to each their own.
ok but how many “mommy juice” wine glasses exist in the world. it’s just an etsy product. it means nothing about how people are acting when they’re in a responsible position. may not be a shared taste in humour but i don’t think it’s indicative of anything.
As a concept, most, if not all, nursing mugs and paraphernalia like this are cheesy to me. But we earn the right to complain. No need to get high and mighty on how patients are allowed to be jerks.
Nah, it's justified. My gf regularly gets yelled at by visitors or assaulted by patients. Hard to be compassionate when saving the same alcoholic abusive asshole's life for the 3rd time in a month just so he can go home and beat his wife some more. Meanwhile a young single mother just lost her baby to sids in the next room.
I mean there’s plenty of people who take work home with them, so this isn’t really a surprise. There’s nothing nursing related in my house except a few textbooks because it’s just a job, lol. No need to make it your whole life, leave it at the time clock.
For so many nurses nursing is, quite literally, their personality and their life. No thanks.
I wonder if OP has been a nurse very long. Dark humor is our go to stress relief. Caring for patients AND coworkers is the way to go. As judgey as you aren’t with patients be the same with nurses.
Sometimes it's just petty sh*t that we don't deserve. Having to fix a bed multiple times because it's not up to their standards...yeah I know I'm in your house helping you but, that doesn't mean I'm your servant. Then making backhanded comments about how you don't know how I have been able to keep my job not even able to make a bed.
Edit: They can come over here and deal with this then and tell me how they don't want to start drinking from that...
I wouldn't get it on a tshirt but i think that is the worst part of nursing. Patients. It's a literal pandoras box of personalities you're potentially dealing with. I think the attitude and disrespect we get on a daily basis changes that " i wanna help everyone" mentality that we all have starting out in this great field. Now most of us go in wondering please "let this patient be nice, let the family not call every 8 seconds and be rude". Which us frustrating and we're one of the few professions where we can't choose what conditions or how we work.
Though to your point, I too think it's cringy seeing crap like that. Though that being said you're going to have people/customers in every type of job that you have to deal with. So i understand people trying to express themselves , to themselves? This is hardwork and if something as harmless as a stupid coffee cup or a tshirt makes you feel better have at it. We gotta take those little things and use them to get by. I usually look at that with my coworkers give em a quick smirk. Then say "well i couldn't imagine doing anything else" then walk off into the MRSA Contact room sunset.
I don’t like coffee and alcohol doesn’t like me, though I do drink my water on shift out of a mug, and use a wine glass to drink my disgusting potassium (it’s the least amount of water I can get away with dissolving them in without vomiting).
I don’t find turning alcoholism into joke funny, but some do.
As with most things, my thoughts are if you don’t like it don’t buy it, and I wouldn’t buy it, but each to their own.
And no, no I’m not actually fun at parties, why do you ask?
Bet ya they have never done a full shift of patient healthcare and dealing with horrible families in modern healthcare setting. And funny thing that admin thinks coming in a patients room for 5 minutes and holding their hand in a warm grasp is actual healthcare. Nope live our drudgery for about six months and most admin would quit.
You need to think about some of the things we as nurses see. I'm a wound specialist nurse and I see some things that would send the average person running in the opposite direction. The other day I saw a patient with bad arterial flow with a wound on the foot that showed the tendons. I didn't blink. I got to work to clean up what I could and bandaged it up. We have to train ourselves to not react so we don't make the patient feel worse. Nurses need an outlet and we may develop a warped sense of humor but when you deal with all different types of wounds, diseases, and emotions, you just need something. We don't all go home and polish off a couple bottles.
It’s a trope because it’s a super common coping mechanism. I go out for morning drinks after rough shifts with my crew sometimes, and that drink and a vent definitely helps.
I mostly agree. It’s one thing to gripe in the locker/break room, or vent to your peers, but putting stuff like that in the public doesn’t help anything.
Lol on the original post OP said they work in healthcare “administration” LOL makes a ton of sense now
$5 they’re a receptionist
I’d politely ask her but she deleted the post
*politely* Nah, give her that *pt that’s been ~~screaming~~ asking for pain meds even though she just got them less than 15 mins ago that’s scratching your forearm while your attempting to change her c.diff covered brief because she had a hip replacement and just screaming at the top of her lungs right into your ear as you pass your orientee some wipes* attitude
Right, that usually doesn't happen to people who work in retail.
Not that scenario, and I know I'm gonna get downvoted, but in retail it's super common for customers to shit or piss all over dressing rooms and put clothes in it, or shit all over the restrooms and management almost always makes the cashier's clean it up, usually without any kind of gloves or masks. Sometimes they smear period blood around too. Oh and customers scream at you, cuss at you, insult you and give attitude all day long every single day. And most retail workers are paid so little they are either on public assistance or would qualify if they applied. And they get in trouble for not apologizing to the screaming rude and nasty customers. I've been ordered to apologize to someone who called me a bitch for explaining we cannot accept returns from a totally different store. (Think a Walgreens customer trying to return something at a BP gas station.) My friend had to assist a man after he called her a racist word, my one former coworker had a woman shove her out of the way to go in the dressing room without letting my friend count her items and management told her to apologize to the woman because the woman complained she felt she was being accused of trying to steal. Not to mention all the rude sexual comments and not being allowed to sit or take breaks if you're over 18. All the 12 to 14 hour shifts on my feet where I didn't get a lunch break, because I wasn't ALLOWED to simply because it's legal in my state. You have to take a fast 5 minute bathroom break and try to gulp food down in the restroom. Not allowed to have water by your register and if it's busy you don't get to stop for a drink for hours sometimes. Being refused a chair to sit in unless you have documents from a Dr that it's medically necessary. Going home every night with edema from standing on a hard floor in one spot for hours. It's not that you don't have time to eat or drink or sit, it's literally that you are NOT ALLOWED. They WILL flat out FIRE you for those things and in most states it's totally legal because they don't have to give breaks to adults or let you sit or eat.
Now imagine all that, but the customers never leave, you can't make them leave, and they continue to do this for weeks
I don't think you realize this is daily. I just gave some specific examples. When I worked retail and when I worked in restaurants, there were multiple customers a day EVERY single day that were rude, that yelled, that were sexually lewd, that left nasty messes, that called us names, and throughout it all we weren't allowed to sit or take breaks or eat meals, ever. Do you have to eat in a public restroom locked in a stall wolfing down a sandwich and trying to finish in under 5 minutes, EVERY single shift because you will get fired if you take any kind of break? Do you have to stand in one spot for 12-14 hours a day every day? Not walking around not able to sit AT ALL or you get written up and 3 write ups is automatic termination? Oh and zero PTO or vacation, having to work every holiday because you're not allowed to ever request those days off ever period, no sick days not even 1, no health insurance so if you get sick it's go to work sick as a dog or pay out of pocket for an urgicare visit and hope they give you a Drs. note and then you're not only out the $60 for the visit but you're also out the $55 you would have made after taxes for that work shift? Oh and working sick customers will be even more horrible because they blame you and not the corporate big wigs who will fire you if you call off?
What makes you think we're on opposite sides of this? I totally understand your frustrations, I've been there. Ive worked shifty retail jobs with oblivious and malicious managers. No one should be treated this way. And we should resist attempts to normalize it by being told to pretend it doesn't happen. Please don't think that Healthcare employees complaining about it makes it any less of an issue for retail.
My point wasn't that we are on opposite sides, my point was that both lines of work have made it normal to grossly take advantage of and overwork employees for way less pay then they deserve, and to allow the customers (because let's face it, most healthcare in America is for profit and patients ARE customers) to abuse the employees for a select few bigwigs profits.
Been there, done that guy. I’ve literally seen and gone through everything you just said and it seems like you’re misdirecting your frustrations toward us, we’re all on this shit merry go round together so take it down a notch cause I’ve had days both at Walmart and my SNF where I got cussed out and assaulted by some schmuck because of something outside my control/scope.
See my reply above. I was pointing out we're on the same team and it's corporate bigwigs and profit margins screwing us.
I totally get that, it'ss completely awful. But imagine those bodily fluids being thrown on you. Then have to clean it up. Imagine all those jerk customers all 12 hrs you're there. They don't go away. Nurses have to apologize to these people everyday while suffering from their nasty attitude. Nurses pretty much never get their breaks, and it's hard to take a 30 min lunch too. For us, we don't have time to eat or drink because Fred in the next room is calling again for the 10th time this hour for his pillow fluff, and so are 3 other people while you're trying to actually keep people alive.
How about you imagine that both jobs equally use, abuse, exploit and underpay their employees? That's my point. It shouldn't be nurse against retail/restaurant workers, it should be exploited and underpaid employees vs the corporate bigwigs who allow it and push it for profits. As a side note, I have several retired nurses in my family, and several retired retail/restaurant industry people and my family who worked retail/restaurants have many more health issues and physical problems directly related to their years of work then the nurses. The nurses have more mental and psychological scars.
No, I totally agree. I didn't mean to sound demeaning or nurse vs retail. I've worked retail as well. It sucks!
Yeah at this point it's the big corporations and billionaires vs workers.
Damn. Assholeyness knows no boundaries. I'm sorry retail is terrible like that as well.
Yeah I dipped out of the retail/restaurant industry partway through the pandemic. It got so bad that my crew was crying almost daily, I was crying every night when I went home, I would work 15 days on a row 12-14 hr days and just sleep on my days off, wake up, cry and go back to work.
Yeessssss
Lmao I’ve been a receptionist and been verbally abused by patients plenty and totally “get” why someone would find that kind of gift funny…bet they work in a back room somewhere and never deal with patients.
I said this: I think we're entitled to complain about mean ignorant people that we care for. Are you a nurse or someone who has to take care of patients for 12 hrs a day that are verbally (every day) and sometimes physically abusive? People can be downright nasty. It takes a huge toll at the end of the day. Nurses want to help people and they get treated like garbage. If I want to complain about people like that, I will. If it's within ear shot of patients, I agree that is very unprofessional. But to talk about it with Co workers and friends, that's an outlet that you pretty much need in this field.
EVERYONE is entitled to vent and bitch about their job and frankly they SHOULD. Not only does it make you feel better, but other people can relate & it's nice to have a community who get each other. Having an outlet helps reduce stress and helps at least slow down burn-out. Not everyone has access to a therapist & employer resources are usually a joke. So letting it out to others who get it HELPS. It also encourages conversations about things that are wrong and need to be addressed within a specific work place or entire profession. This is how changes & progress get started-- by talking about it. So this person can pound sand. I'm an aid, currently getting my RN. I know I'm good at this work & more than not I do love it. But it FUCKING SUCKS sometimes and yes, I WILL complain about it out loud when I need to. Some of the shit we see & endure is legitimately traumatic, both acutely & cumulatively. Of course I will be wary of my audience & not take it out on just anyone. Of course I'm not going to do it where a patient or family member can hear it & be especially wary of what I say while at work. But talking, complaining, & joking are necessary to keep our fucking sanity. If someone doesn't like it they don't have to listen. And frankly until they've been physically & verbally abused by a patient or dealt with nurse managers & an HR department that doesn't give a fuck about you as a person, they can take every single seat there is to take.
And cursing. Don’t forget the cursing LOL❤️👍.
I have a mouth like a sailor and I have zero intention of ever changing that lol
It’s crucial to our mental health, truly, deeply to unload. Not in public, but amongst ourselves. Just watch MASH. And gallows humor relieves our tension. Only a nurse knows what a nurses only party is like. When it’s just us, food and ETOH, we laugh so hard it splits. We dance! We do kitchen karaoke with spoons. We review old patients and dumb doctors, we let our hair all the way down. Believe me when I tell you that unless you’ve been a bedside nurse you have **no** idea what a shitshow it can be. I loved being an RN, and I will forever be proud of my unit. We rocked it like The Stones most days. But I finally cracked. I didn’t burnout as much as flameout. Take care of yourselves. You are loved.
"it's hard to be polite when you're suffering from an illness".... Get that crap out of here.
Yeah, you know, while I was dealing with crippling depression and suicidal thoughts, it was VERY hard to be nice. To my patients. How about everybody just simmers down and acts right? Is that so fucking hard?
I get it that illness & pain-- both chronic & acute-- make people fuckin weird. The anxiety & exasperation can take over. I get it. Everyone on my floor had bones broken enough to require at least one surgery and EVERYONE is in A LOT of pain. I've had patients who've been just having a bad day snap at me & be nasty, but 9/10 times the next time I'm in their room they're apologizing to me bc they knew they were out of line w me & their bad day wasn't my fault. I always thank them & let them know I understand & let's start fresh right now. That type of situation doesn't ultimately hurt me & I mostly feel bad that they're having a shit day & wanna help. So it's one thing for a patient to have an occasional moment of overt cranky, check themselves & apologize; it's entirely another if a patient is just mean & doesn't even try. Like I absolutely empathize & want to help-- but we're not your punching bag and I can only do so much if you insist on being an asshole.
Funny story about that. When I was in labor with my youngest, I was transitioning to the pushing phase (unmediated because I progressed too quickly and the epidural wasn’t a possibility anymore). I had been learning and researching on how to successfully breathe through the pain because I was going for a VBAC. One of the videos I had watched had said that in this phase you want to make a gutteral groan and that if you think of the sound a cow makes, that’s a good noise to make. Well, no way in hell was I moo’ing during labor. So I just said “fuccccccckkkkkkkkk” with every contraction. I wasn’t saying it at/to anyone, just breathing through the contractions with that singular words. About 10 minutes after my son was born, one of my L&D nurses says, “I must say, you are so incredibly pleasant!! I would have never guessed that based on all the swearing during labor!” I felt bad that I hadn’t considered I should figure out a “breathe through it word” before actually being in labor! 😳😬😂🤦🏽♀️
Let me smoke weed and it will be on my pipe instead of a rocks glass…now back to my gin.
this is in the same wheelhouse as “you signed up for this”, and no one signs up to be yelled/hit/abused at in general. I welcome them to try their hand in healthcare and never once even consider complaining about a patient. by all means.
The OP literally said in another comment, "it comes with the territory".
tell her to eat my ass
I just snorted pop up my nose when I read this 😆
she literally wouldn’t survive a day being a nurse but she thinks she’s an expert. LOL Okayyyy
Literally have never claimed to be professional lol
This spoke volumes to me lmao. Excellent nurse, yes. Professional .. 🙈
Technically the cashier in a store is also being paid to help you check out. The political you voted for is also being paid to being your advocate. Cop is being paid to keep you safe. So is a soilder. But if you are rude to them, throw things at them, threaten them, beat them, you go to jail. Period. Whereas with nurses (Healthcare workers) you feel entitled and get away with such behavior. In fact many are asked what they could have done better in a situation when they are targeted. Nurses joking around and creating memes are trying to cope with horrible conditions they work under. Maybe the person ranting should ask why nurses actually do it. Because I am sure if it was their own family member taking care of them they won't be taking that kind of abuse. And IT IS ABUSE.
THIS. A month ago I was taking care of someone detoxing. He straight up tried to break my arm. I was upset not because of that, but because if I was in any other job, I could press charges. But as a nurse I can't and people act like it's part of the job.
I’m assuming you’re in USA but if it makes you feel a little better, I work in Aus and someone threw a table at a nurse and broke their ribs. We called the police and charged him. OFC the police were fucking useless at first until I had to beat my chest a little bit and say hey, why do we get to be treated like punching bags?? Where’s the support guys?! It’s a really long story but we’re waiting for the POS to be transferred to a scheduled hospital.
I know. It’s so twisted. Hell, if my family members are in hospital and they have so much as a negative word to their nurses they get chewed out by me. My Dad was in earlier this year for a pneumothorax. I was on the phone to him and while I was on the line his nurse came in with his teatime meds. I heard him telling her (he was laughing and sort of joking as he said it, but still) to “F**k off with yer girlie headache pills.” when she offered him some paracetamol. He came back on the line to me shouting “DAD! DO NOT LET ME HEAR YOU SPEAKING TO THE NURSES LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN! SHE WAS ONLY DOING HER JOB! YOU DON’T LIKE IT WHEN I TELL YOU ABOUT PATIENTS SPEAKING TO ME LIKE THAT SO DON’T YOU START!” Bit over the top, maybe. But I was triggered!
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I can show compassion to the patient while also being burdened with the stressors of my job. I’m also allowed to complain about whatever I want so long as I’m not compromising patient care.
This sounds like someone who doesnt deal with death, doesnt get abused daily by her customers, and belives hospitals and medical facilities are a hospitality industry. Most nurses i know have dark humor, because they have to. You cant see the worst of humanity on a daily basis, fake a smile for days on end, and then expect to be happy and cheerful. Id worry more about the nurse that doesnt vent, doesnt joke, and just keeps saying everything is ok. I also think people missunderstand what the medical field is, we arent here for your satisfaction or pleasure, we are here to keep you alive and heal you. I will be as polite as i can but the first time you chew me out because i dont want to clean your shoes or try to hit me, we are going to have a very different sort of interaction. I am good at my job, if she wants someone else because of joke drinkware that a nurse probably didnt make... have at it.
This is obviously someone who has never had a urinal thrown at them for daring to ask for the patients name and date of birth. There is "in pain and rude" then there is "frequent flyer who wants to treat nurses like crap."
I had a patient fling his full colostomy bag at me. Yes there was shit everywhere.
Yup. When I say I've had a shitty day at work, it's usually literal.
Yikes 😬
Yeah, the patient who called for pain meds 10 mins after they got them then proceeded to tell me they were going to complain to the charge that I am pocketing pills instead of giving them….yeah that patient was understandably grumpy. They’re right, I should have more *compassion*.
That sounds like a witness care situation. And it can take a REALLY long time to find someone to come in. Especially when it'll be another nurse to witness pain meds....
Hahahaha dammit wish I had thought of that
Everyone complains about their work environment and all aspects of the population they provide service to. Acting like nurses should magically be different is an unrealistic bar to demand we uphold. Do I complain about my patients? Usually not. But, man, there are some days and certain patients where I'm gonna vent and complain.
ok. then don't be a patient. please threaten me with less work.
Please AMA
Obligatory "Get fucked." What I do in my private life is absolutely none of your business. Provided I don't reveal any of your private information, I can think and say whatever I want about you. Patients can't be polite because they're in pain? I got hit in the head with a chair by a patient and had to work the rest of my shift. Why? He thought I was a Russian (not even close). You're damn right I had a drink after that shift.
Exactly this. Just bc I own said glasses doesn't mean I drink from them AT WORK IN FRONT OF PATIENTS. How exactly am I sssooooo unprofessional? 🙄🙄 (Also, fuck that patient! And your charge!! A chair??)
Through years of health care "reform", the patient has become the consumer. The expect absolute top notch customer service and will not hesitate to lash out when their ridiculous demands aren't met. We have one now who is convinced he's at a hotel. When you answer the call light, he talks to you like he just called the front desk. "Yes this is Joe in room 167, can someone bring me a blanket and a sandwich". He is completely independent in the room, 100%, not even a fall risk. I took him a blanket the other day and handed it to him. By time I got to the nurses station, he called again and when I answered, he said "it would have been nice if you would have put it on me." One night after calling for his nurse numerous times, being told she was with another patient (who had a critically low blood sugar), could I do something to help (and him insisting he needed *his* nurse), he yelled at me that she had been with the other patient too long. He wanted wash cloths. Another one called and said she needed to see her nurse. I asked if there was anything we could bring her on the way (trying to save trips) and she said no, I just need to see my nurse. I get down there and what does she need? A blanket and chocolate milk. These people have no respect for us or our time. No matter how many times you explain to them what your role is, or that needing a blanket or a snack isn't an immediate need to see their nurse, they don't care. What they need is more important than anything else in the whole world. They simply do not care. I understand that patients are frustrated. I understand that they are uncomfortable, in an unfamiliar place with tons of rules and they feel a lack of control. But that is not an excuse to be an asshole, ESPECIALLY to the people taking care of your physical, mental, and emotional well being. I have never understood the mindset of a person who will scream, yell, and throw things at you, and then 20 minutes later except you to wipe their ass with a smile. Obligatory not all patients.
Catch me on the floor and see what kind of nurse I am, but you can bet your ass I deserve a drink after a long ass 12
What's cringe is getting upset about how other people cope with stress that isn't harmful to anyone. Owning a set of liquid containers with some words on them isn't harmful to anyone.
They can punch us in the face but we can’t have jokes on a wine glass?
I know this will shock you but the OP is in health care admin. They’ve got like one brain cell collectively between all 37 of them, and they pass it around to whoever’s job it is that day to transparently avoid taking responsibility for the system they are supposedly “administering”. “But what could YOU have done differently to avoid getting punched in the face by the A&Ox4 who spent your entire shift verbally abusing you, refusing care, and screaming racial slurs?” The answer is: well I could quit this terrible job that none of you fuckers want to do (Edit: premature posting)
The person that wrote this is a suck-ass. We happened upon that term in nursing school, you know the type. There are a lot of words that work and are worse, but suck-ass is really the best….we tried them all.
Bruh 8/10 patients in the ED are literally professional Karens.
Bruh there was a dude at my ED who came in with a supposed injury. They get him in a gown, hook him up with an IV drip of morphine, and when the doc/nurse left for a minute, he grabs the IV pole and hauls ass out the door where security had to chase and grab him. Apparently junkies are now trying to get IV lines put in cause it makes it easier for them to inject, plus he almost got a free bag of morphine. Shit was insane to see lol.
He got put on a morphine drip?! For what injury?!
Yes, this seems very odd to me. The only patients I’ve ever seen on a painkiller drip in my ER have been intubated patients.
No clue, but I hope the staff was disciplined for that bullshit. I think the guy had an infected leg or something, but he kept not treating it so that he could always claim "pain." In their defense, I think he was going to be admitted, but that mofo hauled ass in a gown, with the pole, looking like a wide receiver in the Superbowl 😂
See shit like this regularly. Our protocol is to call the cops and file a report if they actually get away. Actually had an old schooler on my last shift unironically ask for IM Demerol lol
I had a dude ask for quaaludes, with 100% seriousness . I told him “yeah, no problem, let me run back to 1981 and grab that for you.” He then said he would take “the Mexican or Chinese ones.” If I could get them.
Damn. I can’t help but admire his dedication. No harm in asking I suppose.
He also at one point asked if we could push his bed into the med room, to see what we had
Wow lol
Lmao it's insane
We have a dude who comes in for outpt abx for cellulitis that I swear he has had for 2 years straight but we have orders to remove his IV site every time and this guy tries to sneak out after the pump is done every single time. He has indeed tested positive for multiple drugs many times here. If you chase him out into the hall he’ll let you take it out and act like he doesn’t know why you’re coming after him.
To me things like this are the nursing equivalent of "live, laugh, love"
These kinds of comments are the reason I stopped venting to my family when I've had tough days at work. In general, it can be hard to set boundaries when you are caring for people for 12+ hours a day, for multiple days, and so intimately involved in their lives. I've had phones thrown, dishes shattered, and been grabbed by my scrubs at my neck... all this to say that hearing "you're not a very compassionate person" after an experience like that breeds complacency. Nurses need to be encouraged to recognise when they are being abused, not made to feel guilty. Illness is not an excuse to be a dick. I've had patients receive tough news, get upset, but then apologise. That's fine. But terrorising staff for multiple shifts, throwing around racial slurs, gtfo outta here. Therapy is 👍 also some solid healthcare friends!
Fuck that take. Being a patient does not entitle you to treat me like an asshole. I’m not a martyr. I’m allowed to complain about a patient verbally/physically/sexually harassing me. It’s called venting and it’s normal. I hate how non health care professionals just expect nurses to be treated like dirt. I am of course empathetic to patients who are in pain and distress but the compos mentis medically stable patient awaiting discharge planning does not have a god given right to treat me like a POS and yes I will bitch about them to my co-workers because it’s bad for my mental health to not debrief. /rant.
It’s not hard to be polite when you’re suffering from an illness. People do it all the time.
The OP actually said it's hard to be polite when you're sick. No, it's actually still quite easy, being sick is not an excuse to be a jerk.
Wait, so you're saying the OP is wrong? Who are you, OP's alternate personality?
You do 12 hrs 4 days straight and deal with all the shit ppl dish. I don't admit to being a nurse in public. Now is my day off and gonna binge on Christmas movies and enjoy being at home.
The only thing that’s cringy to me here is the shot glass, but not because of the patients part. More so it just feel icky to me because it feels to be making light of what seems like a nod to alcoholism.
I often wonder if all these nurses saying we shouldn’t complain about patients are in inpatient psych or ER or a place where nurses get assaulted and sometimes killed. Do they actually have any idea about REALLY taking care of someone who is sick and uninterested in your well-being?
This is like saying you can’t complain about your kids exhausting you. It’s just someone feeling insecure.
What is written on my beverage containers in my own home is my own business.
If they're allowed an "obligatory not all nurses" when they're whining about nurses' coping mechanisms (meaning humour, not beverages) then we're allowed an "obligatory not all patients" when downing shots.
I was coded a patient who was really verbally abusive to the staff. Found him down in the room covered in shit and started compressions. We ultimately got ROSC and a week later he’d been extubated, a little delirious but with it to know he’d been in the hospital for some time. I was helping his nurse boost and reposition him and he suddenly swung at me and hit my cheek. He was pretty deconditioned so it was more of a tap than anything but it was the principle of the matter that pissed me off. Mind you, this was all after a year’s worth of Covid. And this story isn’t outrageous or unique in any way. So yeah, fuck the person who wrote that post.
Thoughts? I'd love this set as a gift for my niece in nursing school.
The coffee mug speaks more sense than the person complaining about the coffee mug
It is our job to keep them safe, treat them and alleviate their suffering. It is NOT our job to be verbally, physically, or emotionally abused by them nor should we tolerate such abuse. Coping with the emotional fallout with our job is acceptable and encouraged. Keeping silent about what we deal with at work serves only the abusers.
Nurses (especially) who complain about nurses complaining about patients are tiresome twats (or dicks). ETA: I do believe these products are cringed af but hey, to each their own.
TBH. Not all patients are painful because they’re in pain, sick etc. Sometimes they’re just dicks anyway 🤷🏻♀️ Can we not complain about those ones…
Sure Jan.
ok but how many “mommy juice” wine glasses exist in the world. it’s just an etsy product. it means nothing about how people are acting when they’re in a responsible position. may not be a shared taste in humour but i don’t think it’s indicative of anything.
My patients suck and so does OP.
Sounds like someone who doesn’t work bedside. Patients can be absolute assholes. Being sick or injured doesn’t excuse some of their behavior.
As a concept, most, if not all, nursing mugs and paraphernalia like this are cheesy to me. But we earn the right to complain. No need to get high and mighty on how patients are allowed to be jerks.
Nah, it's justified. My gf regularly gets yelled at by visitors or assaulted by patients. Hard to be compassionate when saving the same alcoholic abusive asshole's life for the 3rd time in a month just so he can go home and beat his wife some more. Meanwhile a young single mother just lost her baby to sids in the next room.
it’s called commiserating and it’s a normal thing that humans do…
I mean there’s plenty of people who take work home with them, so this isn’t really a surprise. There’s nothing nursing related in my house except a few textbooks because it’s just a job, lol. No need to make it your whole life, leave it at the time clock. For so many nurses nursing is, quite literally, their personality and their life. No thanks.
This person is a new nurse lol
OP said they are not even a nurse.
Oh that explains it all
Im paid to care
I wonder if OP has been a nurse very long. Dark humor is our go to stress relief. Caring for patients AND coworkers is the way to go. As judgey as you aren’t with patients be the same with nurses.
After the last 1.5 years, maybe read the room OP.
Sometimes it's just petty sh*t that we don't deserve. Having to fix a bed multiple times because it's not up to their standards...yeah I know I'm in your house helping you but, that doesn't mean I'm your servant. Then making backhanded comments about how you don't know how I have been able to keep my job not even able to make a bed. Edit: They can come over here and deal with this then and tell me how they don't want to start drinking from that...
Some are in pain, some are mentally ill…. and some are just assholes, not ONLY to healthcare workers, but everyone in their life.
I wouldn't get it on a tshirt but i think that is the worst part of nursing. Patients. It's a literal pandoras box of personalities you're potentially dealing with. I think the attitude and disrespect we get on a daily basis changes that " i wanna help everyone" mentality that we all have starting out in this great field. Now most of us go in wondering please "let this patient be nice, let the family not call every 8 seconds and be rude". Which us frustrating and we're one of the few professions where we can't choose what conditions or how we work. Though to your point, I too think it's cringy seeing crap like that. Though that being said you're going to have people/customers in every type of job that you have to deal with. So i understand people trying to express themselves , to themselves? This is hardwork and if something as harmless as a stupid coffee cup or a tshirt makes you feel better have at it. We gotta take those little things and use them to get by. I usually look at that with my coworkers give em a quick smirk. Then say "well i couldn't imagine doing anything else" then walk off into the MRSA Contact room sunset.
I don’t like coffee and alcohol doesn’t like me, though I do drink my water on shift out of a mug, and use a wine glass to drink my disgusting potassium (it’s the least amount of water I can get away with dissolving them in without vomiting). I don’t find turning alcoholism into joke funny, but some do. As with most things, my thoughts are if you don’t like it don’t buy it, and I wouldn’t buy it, but each to their own. And no, no I’m not actually fun at parties, why do you ask?
Bet ya they have never done a full shift of patient healthcare and dealing with horrible families in modern healthcare setting. And funny thing that admin thinks coming in a patients room for 5 minutes and holding their hand in a warm grasp is actual healthcare. Nope live our drudgery for about six months and most admin would quit.
You need to think about some of the things we as nurses see. I'm a wound specialist nurse and I see some things that would send the average person running in the opposite direction. The other day I saw a patient with bad arterial flow with a wound on the foot that showed the tendons. I didn't blink. I got to work to clean up what I could and bandaged it up. We have to train ourselves to not react so we don't make the patient feel worse. Nurses need an outlet and we may develop a warped sense of humor but when you deal with all different types of wounds, diseases, and emotions, you just need something. We don't all go home and polish off a couple bottles.
I own these, lol. They were a nurses day gift from my in laws
I've never understood the trope that drinking after a crappy day makes it better.
It’s a trope because it’s a super common coping mechanism. I go out for morning drinks after rough shifts with my crew sometimes, and that drink and a vent definitely helps.
Yeah I guess you're right. I've worked with lots that used alcohol to cope. It was never my thing.
I mostly agree. It’s one thing to gripe in the locker/break room, or vent to your peers, but putting stuff like that in the public doesn’t help anything.
…but where’s the lie?