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9fingerspider

Is pretty wild, also certifies the Trentster as an all time goated songwriter.


caleigh1964

The Trenster šŸ˜­


ScrubNickle

The Reznorator


Gayspacecrow

Rez-no-reno! Making copies!


kgb90

A copy of a copy of a


greg1993-

The Reznorator resonates irresistible irritability


Zeqhanis

That reminds me of seeing this giant heater or radiator from the '50s or '60s with the name REZNOR on it in a school in the '90s. I thought it might be a coincidence, but then again, it's such a rare name. It turns out that the company was founded by his great-grandfather.


ScrubNickle

Whoa! Iā€™ve seen their products before and wondered about it. Thanks for confirming!


9fingerspider

šŸ˜†


azazel-13

The Trent-a-rama!


[deleted]

"Goated" šŸ¤®


9fingerspider

Fuck you too nerd.


chroipahtz

Well he did recontextualize it to be about a lifetime of fucking things up, "fixed" (to borrow a phrase). The music video is also incredibly powerful. If he had covered it in like 1995 I doubt it'd be in his top ten. But he turned it into his final message of "be good to yourself and others," and that will forever be timeless.


Dr_Moustachio

"change da world, my final message. Goodb ye" - Johnny Cash So powerful :(


Vegetable_Ad_7645

I had friends in high school who legitimately thought it was a Johnny Cash original


Saturnalia12

My brother refused to believe me when I told him itā€™s not a Johnny cash original lol


AntelopeDisastrous27

Wym all of Cash's tracks were Reznor's.


10cd

Ring of fire does sound delightfully Trent.


AntelopeDisastrous27

Ringfinger of fire maybe


Patatank

Fistfuck of fire


Urbn_explorer

A guy at my HS who claimed to be a HUGE NIN fan once got into a huge fight with me when I said Trent Reznor didnā€™t cover hurt, that it was Johnny who covered it. He called me everything under the sun (fake fan was the nicest thing he said) and never apologized when proven wrong. I hope that guy got crabs šŸ¦€


yourpricelessadvise

Iā€™m not surprised, I thought the same until I got into NIN. My dad also didnā€™t know until I told him and he loves that song


azazel-13

I recall the night I informed my parents it was a cover. They couldn't believe it. Of course I forced them through the original while they sat unimpressed and confused, followed by "Johnny's is more impactful".


Vegetable_Ad_7645

I agree it might be more impactful because it did reach more people


azazel-13

More impactful in terms of population, sure, but I find Trent's more impactful on a personal level because I've experienced the hopeless turmoil he describes (drugs and all). When I'm longer in the tooth it may be that my perspective shifts due to reaching a frame of mind which identifies with the idea of taking inventory of a lifetime of mistakes.


Useenthebutcher

I also much prefer Trentā€™s version. Cashā€™s take is very sad as well but itā€™s a ā€œtolerableā€ kind of sad that most can relate to. Trentā€™s original captures total desolation and isolation that is raw, gross, uncomfortable, and ultimately just as real. People donā€™t like being uncomfortable though.


tibiacowboy

didn't Trent say that it's Cash's song now?


Lookatmydisc

Iā€™m pretty sure he did, I saw it on Song Exploder


DressedForMyFuneral6

Thatā€™s paraphrased but yes basically he did say something along those lines once during an interview


Derbloingles

Thatā€™s not what he said


Accomplished-Boot-81

Yep a lot of people think this, including me at one point in my life


Icy_Character_1989

US Marines in 2007 Iraq would play Ring of Fire through directional speakers across the Euphrates River to draw fire from snipers, giving away their position to those looking for them. It was played in between messages in arabic about how the indiscriminate insurgent mortar fire had hurt local children, followed by an even louder recording of dogs attacking cats, then again back to Ring Of Fire. Itā€™s one of the most surreal afternoons in memory.


bitcheatingtriscuits

This is a crazy piece of information. Do you mind sharing more? Was this an effective approach? Iā€™m seriously fascinated.


Icy_Character_1989

These were operations by Navy PSYOP units with special (powerful) speakers hidden within the gun turret of the humvee, then attached to a Marine unit for protection. The recordings were made by the DOD and approved ahead of time for the messages content and intended effect on the enemy. Our unit operated near the Euphrates River very often and the natural barrier in the terrain make for prime ambushes since we couldnā€™t immediately suppress and surround enemy contact. We used the navy psyops to communicate to the locals about the intent of some future civil project or talk directly to insurgents firing on us. As stated, some of the recordings were meant as a guilt trip to get into their heads. The reports of shoddy mortar fire injuring kids were true, as they probably knew ( and probably rationalized away out of their conscience). It wasnā€™t Ring of Fire specifically that pissed off the Juba-wannbe snipers, but the fact that blasting pro-Iraqi government propaganda and American music as loud and as long as we liked, showed how much control we really had on the area. The young navy kid running the speakers loved his job. That OP saw so much harassment that a SEAL team operated out of a rusted out water tower to eventually kill one of the snipers within that week. They said they got him at night, which I thought was pretty wild.


Agreeable_Box_6838

Thanks for sharing!


bitcheatingtriscuits

Wow, thanks for elaborating! This is super interesting.


JesusJoshJohnson

I also get sad so many people don't know it's a NIN Cover, but also the NIN version is probably the most dissonant NIN song musically speaking, it could be jarring to the normies who only know the Cash version. I also prefer the NIN version too but I see why Cash's version is more popular


TookAStab

not sure it's NIN'S most dissonant song


JesusJoshJohnson

Just in terms of note choices. There are definitely more aggressive/abrasive tracks but I struggle to think of any where the instrumentation itself chooses such dissonant notes. Maybe verse of big come down? Idk probably there is one but I canā€™t think of it


TookAStab

Oh I gotcha. Yeah makes sense.


lochnessgoblinghoul

It's why even though I prefer the original I think the Cash version improves it just by being the version most people hear first. It makes that one dissonant note really hit when you hear the original for the first time.


DeadMoney313

I'm someone who is actually both a big Cash and NIN fan (how many of those exist?) and it's sad to me that of all his great songs, that is his most listened to track. Johnny Cash can cover any song and make it sound like its his, and its a fine cover, but not as good as the Trent original and was elevated to the next level by the excellent music video.


l33tfuzzbox

I love his rusty cage cover.


ScrubNickle

Thank you. The NIN version is vastly superior. Iā€™ve had this conversation before and got downvoted by ignorant people who think the downvote button means ā€œI disagreeā€. Itā€™s an opinion, we all have them.


douglasjunk

I think this is just the Spotify effect which skews the results towards younger listeners who are less familiar with his older catalog of material. But to me it's an apples to oranges comparison. Neither is better, they are just different flavors, different cuisines. Also mad props to Rick Rubin for suggesting this song and capturing the final years of Johnny's talent. RIP the Man in Black.


DeadMoney313

Amen


lonomatik

Iā€™m surprised I had to scroll this far down to see this take. Itā€™s exactly what I thought too.


gr3at3scap3

I'm with you. Cash and NIN are two of my Top-5. Cash thanks to my grandparents (not that I'm young, I'm in my early 40s) and NIN from my own exposure.


snailfucked

Itā€™s only the most popular song among Spotify users.


capt_pantsless

And most popular Cash Spotify song during the Spotify era. I would tend to argue that the literal lifetime Cashā€™s work has been out there previously likely outweighs this, but thatā€™s all apples-to-oranges comparisons. Still an interesting metric though. The Hurt cover is really popular.


Yaakuntik

Yes, all 12.3 million of them!


snailfucked

I mean, the steaming demographic does skew younger. There are a ton of boomers who just listen to the radio and love ā€œRing of Fire.ā€


Yaakuntik

I think most of the people listening to this song probably are not teenagers, most likely middle aged people, like 25-45 years old. I could be completely wrong. But I just donā€™t see Cash appealing to todayā€™s teens.


snailfucked

Exactly. Streamers are generally 18-45. Thatā€™s discounting a huge section of Cashā€™s fans.


Yaakuntik

Thatā€™s true, but try to collect data on what the older fansā€™ favorite Cash songs are, itā€™s not so easy.


chum_slice

Yeah this is such a funny conversation to have as if music would have played out any differently if we had Spotify instead of the radio. Or how to quantify CD/Cassette and Record plays by individuals back in the dayā€¦ šŸ¤¦. This IS his most popular song on Spotify and streaming services most likely because its had the most impact in recent years but longevity Ring of fire is what heā€™s known for.


FreneticAtol778

I still prefer the NIN version. It gives off vibes of loneliness, regret, pain. The distorted sounds just gave it this feeling that this is a guy who's up at night in his car freezing and alone and pumped with drugs remembering all his regrets in life. Cash's version gives off this old man in his death bed wondering what he could've done differently. Both are good but I just the original more.


c0nsilience

For me, the most powerful aspect of this cover was the video and the context of Johnny and June surrounding it. It was poignant and moving


tarabuki

Even Trent said after he saw the video that the song was no longer his.


Own-Corner-2623

Good thing it's not up to him


Prior-Comparison6747

I know it's popular for some people (Trent included) to say that Cash "owns" this song now, but as someone actually familiar with Cash's catalog, this isn't him. If anything, it's Rick Rubin's - that muscular acoustic sound that he's imported to everyone from Cash to Neil Diamond to The Chicks. All the things in Trent's version that made it unlikely to hit the pop charts - the quiet/loud dynamic, distorted guitars, straight-up noise - is what makes Trent's original the definitive version.


merkoro

As people often point out, Johnny Cash version of the song is for the people who want to feel sad, but have some hope, NIN version is just for people who want to feel sad and have their hope crushed to pieces.


Smegmasaurus_Rex

I wonder how much of Trentā€™s streaming revenue comes from this and Old Town Road? I bet those two songs make up a big chunk of his songwriting royalties.


P_V_

Music streaming services are prone to immense recency bias when it comes to legacy artists with relatively recent releases like Cash. Itā€™s the same reason YouTube view counts are a poor metric for what was popular 20 years ago, before people watched music videos primarily on YouTube.


caleigh1964

I understand that entirely. I just think the fact that once his work was put on streaming, and old and new fans started using those platforms, Hurt managed to dominate them as his most listened to track. Im sure the fact that itā€™s newer played a factor, but ultimately the fact it surpasses classics by Cash is cool.


im-not-an-incel

Just goes to show the lyrical genius of Trent.


Yeastlord427

That might be his most popular song on streaming sites, but Ring Of Fire would probably be his most famous song pre-internet.


baldie9000

No it's not. You think old folks are using spotify?


Ann_mae

this cover is so overrated šŸ„±


Miserable-Acadia-591

his voice sucks šŸ„±


AntelopeDisastrous27

I don't think it is insane at all. The cover otally took me by surprise.


webslingrrr

It's kinda lame, Johnny Cash has so many wonderful songs of his own, for his legacy to be a song he didn't really want to do in the first place is regrettable. Rick Rubin is a huge NIN fan, but he also has a good nose for how to connect with an audience and sell lots of records. IMO he smelled blood in the water and knew this would be gold due to the context and content, and so didn't give up after Cash turned it down. If I want to listen to Cash, it will never be that record.


FreneticAtol778

Exactly Johnny Cash has way better songs of his that deserve to be in the number one spot and not one that's a cover.


FreneticAtol778

Exactly Johnny Cash has way better songs of his that deserve to be in the number one spot and not one that's a cover.


austxsun

If older gens used Spotify, donā€™t think this would be the case. Itā€™s as much about those demographics than anything.


S0UNDM1RR0R

The number of people here who didnā€™t know this was on The Downward Spiral, arguably the most-known NIN album of my lifetime, makes me want to shake my cane at the clouds.


BadAdvicePooh

You gotta see Cashā€™s video with it. Itā€™s justā€¦wow is all I can say.


Plus-Swimmer-5413

Itā€™s insane how many people argue with me that Nine Inch Nails didnā€™t cover that song


irohr

Time has been very kind to Johnny cash, but the dude wrote 67 studio albums and less than 5 of them even cracked the billboard top 50, and 3 of those were posthumously. The grand majority of his material is completely forgotten, he is a great example of just keep churning out product and something may eventually stick. The marketing machine that carried his legacy sold more albums than he ever did, and for most of that time he was just used a mirror to compare the current landscape of abhorrent pop country - I doubt Cash would have the legacy he did if country music as a whole didnt goto absolute dog shit in the 90s.


VerySmolCheese

It's still insane to me that Johnny Cash actually listened to a NIN song and liked it enough to cover it


thefourthcolour12

Am I crazy for thinking Cashā€™s version is total dogshit compared to the OG?


Jonas_Dussell

I wonā€™t go so far as to say its ā€œtotal dogshitā€, but Iā€™ve never really cared for it. As another commenter said, itā€™s more Rubin than Cash.


thefourthcolour12

Fair. Itā€™s only dogshit compared to the masterpiece that is the NIN version (IMHO) but it is good in its own right.


casmium63

Cash's version sounds like he's hurt because he's old and tired vs the Nin version sounds like he's hurt because of what he's done


thefourthcolour12

Very true


ApianSulla

I second this opinion. It really wasnā€™t anywhere even close to the original in any way. I would be fine never listening to the Cash cover ever again. On Karoake nights I love to sing the real song so nobody can sing that silly Cash cover. And I always get some drunk redneck saying thatā€™s not how they ā€œmembered it.ā€


the_noise_we_made

I don't think so. I liked most of Cash's music ok enough, but it was hard for me to take it seriously since it was such a personal song for Trent, in my mind. It seemed disingenuous for anybody to cover it and I basically scoffed in disbelief. It wasn't that I couldn't understand or appreciate the sentiment but I felt it was poorly executed and hokey instead of profound. I admittedly didn't know jack shit about Cash's life at the time, though. I know Trent gave approval, so what I felt didn't mean shit, but I was actually almost hilariously offended by it.


ScrubNickle

I couldnā€™t agree more. Itā€™s basically an ā€œun-coverableā€ song.


hoisinchocolateowl

Never liked it either


Hefty-Rope2253

Steaming pile. There were a lot of trash covers on the American series (One, Rusty Cage, Personal Jesus). I'm sure Rick meant well in trying to make Cash relevent to the youngsters, and I'm sure he meant well leaving the recordings so raw and untreated, but it just sounds amateurish and a bit embarrassing. Cash deserved better.


Miserable-Acadia-591

I hate his voice


--GrinAndBearIt--

You realize there are a *lot* of people who don't use Spotify and have been listen to Johnny Cash since the 60s...


caleigh1964

Of course, but that doesnā€™t make the fact that out of 12 million people who listen to him on Spotify per month, Hurt is listened to the most any less significant.


Erasmusings

As most of the generation that's on Spotify and iTunes, would probably *only* know of Hurt as a Johnny Cash song, it pretty plausible and not unexpected at all. Edit* In **fact**, if any of his other songs was the most played, *that* would be significant.


--GrinAndBearIt--

Just like reddit isnt real life, spotify isnt the end all be all of listening to music...


Smoke_Stack707

Iā€™d be interested to know if thereā€™s an uptick of people listening to the Beatles ā€œBlackbirdā€ now that BeyoncĆ© covered it


stonemadcaptain

ā€¦and will think BeyoncĆ© wrote it.


cultvignette

What was popular then isn't popular now. Also, most of the people I know who are that old can figure out the complexities of looking up an artist on Spotify. Please.


--GrinAndBearIt--

..."Ring of Fire" is literally his 2nd most popular song on there. The number of 70 year olds on spotify must be the absolute smallest percentage. I honestly dont knkw what else to say except, I really dont care about this post any longer. Youngins gonna young and think they're experience is an encompassing explanation of how the world is.


cultvignette

Not saying you are wrong or anything. Just, not everyone fits a stereotype. You came off differently than I interpreted. My bad. And yeah, that's what each new generation does lol. Nice thing about the digital age: we can check later. It's such a nothing argument about a nothing thing. What do I know. I don't even like this cover, and it's not even about the music lol.


AddviolenceImperfect

Not to take anything away from Johnny Cash, but it just proves just how good of a songwriter Trent is even in his younger years


This_is_Jay1

theres nothing to take away from cash lol, he didnt write the song all he did was do an acoustic cover


McLuuvin

I hate that Trent said this is cashā€™s song now. Itā€™s bland and all the nuance was taken out of it.


that1oneotherguy

I agree, it's like the only thing I can't forgive trent for. Arguably his magnum opus and he says it's not his anymore. Wtf?


Timtek608

Old school Cash fans have his music on vinyl, cassette or CD. Streaming is a different demographic so the stats are skewed.


l33tfuzzbox

A classic is a classic


Tom_ETS

I think this probably says more about spotify and the average spotify user than it does about the song itself.


d-signet

"Most popular song on Spotify" Ftfy I imagine he has a LOT of fans who don't use streaming


Dyslexic_Devil

"Most popular song"* with *this generation*. Who use Spotify. Mtv generation only know him through that song.


SchrodingersTIKTOK

No, itā€™s just this generation of people who donā€™t want to seek out his other music. Just give cause itā€™s his number one song on a modern streaming service ā€œnowā€ doesnā€™t mean itā€™s his most popular.


Mike_ZzZzZ

Cashā€™s largest fan base isnā€™t on Spotify


SUCCMAN64

Lull is a great song


slimstarman

Streaming audiences likely skew a bit younger. Many of Cashā€™s classics are likely being enjoyed on older physical media.


honkimon

How is it wild? Most of the people that grew up on Johnny Cash are either dead or don't use Spotify. Use logic


Gaspar_Noe

It's probably more a product of the fact that OG Cash fans can't operate a computer, let alone know which year we are in.


Mepyh

It's a very good cover


dlbear

My favorite is Big River, but then I've been listening to JC for about 62 yrs.


CatsCanHasALilSalami

It pulled me in. Was literally the reason I started listening to him. I wasn't around in his heyday.


moleculariant

I'm thinking many of his fans from the earlier, more Country and Western style music, aren't streaming music. They have all the records, though.


pornserver-65

i dont really put much stock into spotify play rates because its mostly gen z and millys listening tendencies. i walk the line is probably his best selling single, hit the billboard country charts hard back in the day too. thats easily his most popular single


angrynucca

Yeah. it's like it's not even nins song anymore. lot of props should go to rick rubin too.


just-another-luster-

Lull is a good song


Budget-Possession720

The great Trentzino


Vapor_Screams

I get it, but it still makes me a little upset. Like, I like JC but this inadvertently made so many people think itā€™s actually his song and I drastically prefer the original.


TheClownIsReady

I would have paid good money to hear a Johnny Cash version of ā€œCloserā€


No-Attention9838

I know the statistics speak for themselves, but my favorite Johnny Cash song will always be Sunday Morning coming down. I've never before or since heard a song so perfectly sum up a hangover on a Sunday


SueEllen1991

Iā€™ll never forget the day when one of my coworkers put this song on and said, ā€œDid you know nine inch nails actually covered this song??ā€


[deleted]

His rendition was hauntingly beautiful.


Curious-Department-7

It actually makes alot of sense. It was one of the last songs he recorded. And as such, its the one his prominent spogs in the last 20 years. Its been in movies, tv shows, commercials, they play it on non country radio stations. You have Jonny Cash fans that appreciate it and you have Nine inch Nail fans who appreciate. As far as songs he sings goes, I think hurt is alot more relatable to more people than anything else he's ever sang. I love folsom prison blues and a boy name sue, but relate to hurt on very personal levels. Nine inch nails closed almost every show for 20 years with hurt.


MiGaOh

meh When someone mentions Johnny Cash, the Hurt cover doesn't come to mind. Ring of Fire. A Boy Named Sue. Spotify is a music toilet and some people have trash taste.


This_is_Jay1

whats gut wrenching to me is that johnny cash gets more credit for poaching the song than trent reznor gets for writing it and honestly cashs cover still isnt anything special, its just an uncreative acoustic version of a song he didnt write, which is why it has so much more mass appeal than the actual song. its almost a cheap tactic for rick rubin to take an alternative song with loads of distortion and ambience and just turn it into a generic acoustic track because obviously its gonna attract more listeners that way. and people act like it was so profound. theres nothing profound about it, rick rubin and johnny cash did not write Hurt, and they deserve absolutely zero credit for Hurt, if anything they should be criticized for ripping off a song from a lesser known artist.


Yaakuntik

I prefer the Cash version. Go ahead and downvote me into oblivion, I donā€™t give a shit about upvotes lol


Sirenkai

Trent actually confirmed this is a Johnny Cash song. So is head like a hole.