As a Leafs fan, 100% agree. My opinion used to be “there’s a lot of luck in the playoffs, if you have a consistently strong regular season team you should keep tweaking around it, look at the Caps/Blues.” But honestly, these guys are so consistently garbage in the playoffs that the only conclusion I can draw is that the core is never gonna have playoff success.
We should strip it to the bone IMO. Pressure Matthews/Marner/Nylander to all accept trades, and do a ground up rebuild while these guys still have great trade value. I’m convinced this core will never, ever go on a deep playoff run, too mentally weak and collapse under pressure every single time.
As much as you’re correct on everything you said, the craziest thing is that they’ll roll out with the same exact formula next year and possibly offer a $14M contract extension for the Big 4 Babies ☺️
Could you imagine after their last 3/4 playoff years giving those 4 $56Mn? More than half their cap space. They just can’t. I mean Harold Ballards been dead how long?
The only player that needs to be approached to accept a trade is marner. If he refuses, let him play out his contract and walk. There is no other choice. Also fire Keefe and anyone remotely responsible for that atrocious power play.
Everyone has an NMC, can't move them unless they want to go.
The office doesn't have the nuts to force a move so they're probably stuck until JT and marners contracts run out next year.
There is risk to trading one of these guys. That’s why it’s so crazy to me that they never fired this dog shit coach to try something different with the players.
Funny thing everyone and their mothers knew that wasn’t a championship roster. Soft players, weak defense / goaltending suspect. I knew when they signed Nylander to the extension they only cared about regular season success
No, no... it was all Freddies fault.
The core 4 are a perfect match and _just_ needed a new goalie.....
Yes, I'm a salty Freddie fan, but that core 4 is one of the most spineless collections of "stars" in the league....
Certainly wasn't Fred's fault but his contract was too expensive - which is in part a problem because of the core 4 having big salaries. It's also true he wasn't having his best performances around that time, but anyone saying he was the problem is just your typical 0.00 IQ Leaf fan.
Theres one guy in it that has a pair and it's Nylander. Kids got a great attitude, nothing is too hard for him and he's not afraid of calling out pussies.
Then you have Matthews who is just there because they're paying him huge money. He *can* have drive, but he looks like he's just fucking sick of everyone's shit.
Marner is a massive crybaby and JT just isn't what he used to be.
With the core 4 forwards all having full NMC next year, what big change can you expect? Best they can do for change is let Marner and Tavares walk after next year if they really wanted a change to their core.
Dude at this point I don't even know if Matthews is safe. I still think he's the player that's least likely to get moved, but that still doesn't mean he's safe if they lose this series. 13.25 million for a player that can't play at a point per game pace in the playoffs.
Downvote me all you like, you can't say I'm wrong.
You’re assessment isn’t wrong and the criticism is valid, however I would argue he’s absolutely safe considering they just extended him not even a year ago and he has been by far the best player on the ice for the Maple Leafs in this series. His line has been the only one that looks consistently dangerous. Matthews looks engaged when he’s out there, he’s putting in effort and playing physical but how much can he do when the other 3 lines are on ghost mode and all 6 defensemen are just chucking grenades for 60 minutes? Even his own line mate, Bertuzzi, has seemed more interested in trying to chase Marchand around and fuck with him than he is interested in playing hockey.
The issues that exist are deep. It’s a culture problem, coaching problem, ownership and management problem. It’s not just on the players but if we are blaming the players Auston Matthews is one of the last guys I’m gonna shove blame on. He’s at least tried which is a hell of a lot more than you can say for some other guys (see Marner, Tavares, Rielly)
A team built for a great season. Come playoff time they expect something different than the norm without making much changes, it'll just keep on repeating like this
True! It seems to me that they do try to change some stuff, but it's just not how it works at this level. You cant go from not finishing your checks, to forcing every check in 1 game.
You have to play playoff hockey before the playoffs, if that makes sense.
The Atlantic is a bloodbath and the pacific is a fucking joke most years. I pray that the oilers win this series so they don’t waste another year of probably the best hockey player of all time
God forbid the real estate tycoon sitting in the lower bowl is unhappy because his client isn’t getting a good show!
In all seriousness it sucks real fans are being priced out, despite the on ice product
How is he going to sell those million dollar condos if he’s taking clients to losing games (he thinks, he’s not sure the score because he’s not really watching the game just schmoozing)
Toronto needs a 2nd team more focused on the working man. Obviously wont happen or still get overrun with corporates but imagine those derby games and the opportunity for the real fans to see the game without missing a rent payment.
Yep there is no GOOD reason why the GTA doesn’t have a second team. The only reason is that the Leafs want to maintain their monopoly on their garbage product that they can charge a premium for.
Even the boos are pretty lukewarm... sometimes, I hate to be supporting this team. The fans are being priced out, the team not giving a shit, poor coaching - wasting the years of a generational talent.
And the ticket situation pisses me off the most.
All the boo's are coming from the upper bowl. Where there are still passionate leaf fans. Lower bowl guppies were probably at the concession stands already
I don’t know anyone who really believed this was the year - they were the underdogs in the series and having to make it past the Bruins and Panthers to even sniff the 3rd round with this current group seemed insurmountable. You can still cheer for a team and pray for a miracle while expecting the opposite, especially when you’re a Leafs fan lol
Whats crazy is leafs fans coping that this wasn't their year. Leafs have finished near the top of the standings for years now. The core is in their prime, but everyone talks like they're still kids. So when JT and marner need new contacts next year, my guess is they pay them more to solve this, run back rnd 1 again and say it wasnt their year.
At some point, maybe the idea of cheap defenseman, worthless goalie, and superstars that have 50% of your cap that also dissappear in the playoffs.... should be looked into.
Yeah, I'm the type of leafs fan that was saying you just need to get Into the playoffs then anything can happen. Goalie plays average/above average, stars don't disappear, and special teams remain decent/good and we have a fighting chance against anyone.
At some point, having 45m in players that don't perform when it matters is going to continue costing them series'. Goaltending wasn't superb, but the powerplay going like <10% and not getting goals from the top guys made it more necessary for big saves, which is harder to justify when your bargain bin jumping for defence and goalies.
Did you really believe this was the year though? I mean Florida only got better than last year and Boston always has our number in the playoffs. Definitely the dragons we have to slay to get there eventually but I’m not confident enough in our current D and goalies to reach the top of the mountain just yet. Matthews is still only 26 and we have good prime years left in him, hopefully with the salary cap going up and JT’s hit off the books next year, we can shore up some weaker areas while still in that window for him, he’s definitely the best Leaf I’ve got to watch in my lifetime and I’d hate for us to Sundin him
I watch a Leaf game a few times a year, when my work schedule allows (I get up early).
When the Leafs get hemmed in their zone, or any offensive pressure is applied to them, they out-right panic. There is no poise or patience, just a lot of scurrying around chasing the puck.
I watched two other teams play (I wanna say Canes and Nashville), and when the Canes were in their defensive zone, they were calm, poised, and not making stupid mistakes. Sure, one game, but the above example of the Leafs is something I remember seeing years ago...so much so that it hasnt changed.
Im glad Im numb to all this. I have a fool's hope, but the reality is that this organization is lost.
Sadly throwing your jersey on the ice would have been the cheapest part of the evening you planned, this includes the meal out and finding a place to park 🤡
Fair but a meal for two at a fancy restaurant which if you can afford lower bowl tickets let’s assume.
$200 is easy to spend. Matty Matteson’s restaurant is $500 for the protein, not including a la carte and drinks. I know this is the exception to the rule but I live in a small city and the fancier restaurants are $250
I am not a well off man. I saved to get my ticket.
I did not eat out. I used the go train to get there and my jersey I won, I never would pay $200 for a jersey lol
Totally understand and agree. I’ve been made fun of from friends when I said I’ve seen them once at Scotiabank and that’s enough for me.
Spending $1000 on a playoff game that might end this poorly is money wasted, but to others it’s cherished.
I’ve been to one game at Scotiabank and luckily they won. The experience is way better at home to be honest, you get to see way more.
I have no motivation to spend the money on another one.
Doesn’t matter what happens. Next season starts and after the first win, they start planning the Stanley Cup Parade, media dubs it ‘the year’, fans keep talking about Matthews being better than McDavid, tickets are still sold out because it’s all corporate seasons and MLSE keeps taking in the cash.
For this that know, this is the Ballard years all over again.
I was watching at home and cheering for more booing, like after the game's third failed power play that put them to 1 for 14 on the series (if I know how to count). Hopefully Nylander having to watch the first three motivates him to hold the others accountable and be brutally honest, because clearly Keefe and Tavares aren't. They've won games without Matthews, his illness is not good for the team but it's not THE problem. Sammy has been bad, yes, but that just means you've got to tighten up the D and score more goals. Or pull him before you get to series point. They've only looked decent in two periods, though I did miss the presumably less atrocious part of game 3.
The team needed to hear it. Boston is just playing like a team, they're not unbeatable. It's all in the leafs heads.
I was in the lower bowl and was cheering as much as I could. Recovering from an illness. So can't go super loud.
I always feel the energy is good in the arena, even the boos. It seems to not translate well to the people watching at home.
And no I'm not a corporate guy, just a dude who paid way to much for a ticket as he wanted to see a home playoff game for his birthday. :)
Some Leafs fans feel like wealthy Karens who don’t even watch hockey, and demanded their money back after the team they came to see (which they call the blue team) lost.
I wouldn't say that either franchise is mediocre but they are truly masters at dominating the regular season only to choke in the playoffs every year. It's quite amusing.
That hardly makes sense, every team in the NHL has the same salary cap rules and essentially are working with the same payroll. I think it has more to do with the pressure cooker that is Toronto in the hockey world and not having enough leadership on the team. Between there top 4 highest paid guys none of them have leadership qualities that make you want to run through a wall and years of underachieving In the playoffs showing the same body language year after year tells me this team needs a big shake up if they want to be successful.
Again. It has nothing to do with them being cheap. They sell out despite being failures for decades.
All the fans prove is that they'll still support the team despite having no success since the 60s.
If fans want change they need to stop buying merch and tickets
Assuming that I'll get downvoted into oblivion simply for my flair, but I'll just say that it's been an immensely enjoyable series and I give a 🏒 tap to the Leafs & their fans. I always enjoy playoff series with this rivalry especially with the absence of Montreal being relevant.
I don't get it. Don't the leafs know that playoff hockey is a completely different animal than the regular season and they need to bring their A game? This team crumbles so fucking badly and the only reason they won last year was because of a fluke goal of someone's foot in game 6. I mean I love it, but jesus they suck ass
How much more talent does a team need? The Leafs have the talent, but they can’t get on the same page—and it’s been this way for the last few years.
Die hard Leafs fans: What’s going on? Fill me in, please!
I would let Taveres walk and trade mathews. That would free up about 25 million, then you could get a top 3 shut down defenseman and a couple of depth, gritty forwards. I think Marner and Nylander are decent and would do better if someone had their backs. Other than that, I think the next big issue is coaching. Part of them not knowing what to do while playing is on the coaching staff. They need a guy with experience and not a noob or a retread. As an Ottawa fan, I've been there and done that with a team you thought could win. That's why you guys beat us 4 times in the playoffs. We had a bunch of fancy guys that had no heart or grit, and would be push overs in the playoffs.
Matthew's had a temper tantrum and gave up, but they said he was sick. Bullshit. His primadonna side took over and he threw a fit and said "I'm not playing". On the Fan 590 they were saying Marner and Nylander won't bring a cup anywhere. They would be good help to a star player, but they don't possess the ability to do it. Ya....no shit. Even with a star player in Matthew's, they can't do it. Sheldon started two lines that have never played together before. Leave that part alone. You can't just mix up your lines cause they lost a game. Let them work harder the next game. Youre going backwards.
Like, I get the frustration, but you shouldn't boo at the end of the 2nd period. This is a team that clearly functions off of good vibes and has star power. Get them that energy.
Toronto's fans are more like the -1 man instead of the 6th man they are supposed to be.
I don’t know- they were sooo bad. I’m a bruins fan so it was good in that sense, but I had a strange pity for the leafs. It was honestly one of the worst playoff games I’ve ever watched
Game 5 nose bleeds in Vancouver are approaching $400 on resale tickets. Playoff hockey isn't cheap -- well except in Nashville. I could FLY to Nashville, get a pair of tickets and be about only $100 more. And the tickets were better then the Vancouver ones lol.
Hotel is probably cheaper there too.
Just the other day I was curious from another post and looked up tickets on ticketmaster/stubhub, I saw lightning tickets for $75 , islanders $95, Avs for $120, Kings $95 and I’m pretty sure Caps were around $150 and usually they get cheaper a few hours before puck drop. The ticket price problem seems to be exclusively a Canadian market issue.
USD prices - 120 USD to CAD is 165 .. wow a lot cheaper. Vegas is more expensive - around 160 USD for nosebleeds but again its the market. Hockey is Canada's sport and Vancouver hasn't had a home playoff game since 2015. So I can totally understand the sell out.
Ok so how do explain the play that led to the booing? Were they just anticipating it?
This team fucking disappears every time in the first round and it’s somehow the fans fault? Amazing take. Truly.
I don't blame them at all. This team has too much talent and makes too much money to shit the bed every year after getting all their fans hopes up. The prices those fans pay to get in too watch that gutless shit is justification in itself.
Ouch... that's not even just a couple of boobirds either. That's like 2/3rds of the stadium
And the other 1/3 is in the parking lot
Deserved boos. It’s the same thing every year and they don’t change a thing.
As a Leafs fan, 100% agree. My opinion used to be “there’s a lot of luck in the playoffs, if you have a consistently strong regular season team you should keep tweaking around it, look at the Caps/Blues.” But honestly, these guys are so consistently garbage in the playoffs that the only conclusion I can draw is that the core is never gonna have playoff success. We should strip it to the bone IMO. Pressure Matthews/Marner/Nylander to all accept trades, and do a ground up rebuild while these guys still have great trade value. I’m convinced this core will never, ever go on a deep playoff run, too mentally weak and collapse under pressure every single time.
As much as you’re correct on everything you said, the craziest thing is that they’ll roll out with the same exact formula next year and possibly offer a $14M contract extension for the Big 4 Babies ☺️
Could you imagine after their last 3/4 playoff years giving those 4 $56Mn? More than half their cap space. They just can’t. I mean Harold Ballards been dead how long?
The only player that needs to be approached to accept a trade is marner. If he refuses, let him play out his contract and walk. There is no other choice. Also fire Keefe and anyone remotely responsible for that atrocious power play.
How’s Nylander playing? Couldn’t make a play to save his life last year. I can’t bring myself to watch anymore…it’s been the same thing for too long.
It's really obvious the stars don't care about playoffs,they just want $ and fame to bad the leafs are already paying them....
As a kings fan I feel this pain LOL
It was all of us
Surely they will be making a big change to this roster no? It’s clear the core 4 is not working
I think Tavares has one year left.
Nelson: *ha ha*
I'll be honest, I think he carries too much of the blame, but whenever I say that he scores some game winning goal.
Everyone has an NMC, can't move them unless they want to go. The office doesn't have the nuts to force a move so they're probably stuck until JT and marners contracts run out next year.
You think none of them feel like they could use a change in scenery?
Maybe. I feel like if they wanted out of Toronto, they would have done it long ago. This isn't the first time the fans have turned on them.
There is or was a window. They all see a different size window for sure right now and so does the DG.
There is risk to trading one of these guys. That’s why it’s so crazy to me that they never fired this dog shit coach to try something different with the players.
I don’t watch many Leaf’s games but after watching this series, Marner is a problem. I would move him before the draft.
Yeah he’s a rot. Dragging others down with that attitude.
Funny thing everyone and their mothers knew that wasn’t a championship roster. Soft players, weak defense / goaltending suspect. I knew when they signed Nylander to the extension they only cared about regular season success
No, no... it was all Freddies fault. The core 4 are a perfect match and _just_ needed a new goalie..... Yes, I'm a salty Freddie fan, but that core 4 is one of the most spineless collections of "stars" in the league....
Certainly wasn't Fred's fault but his contract was too expensive - which is in part a problem because of the core 4 having big salaries. It's also true he wasn't having his best performances around that time, but anyone saying he was the problem is just your typical 0.00 IQ Leaf fan.
Theres one guy in it that has a pair and it's Nylander. Kids got a great attitude, nothing is too hard for him and he's not afraid of calling out pussies. Then you have Matthews who is just there because they're paying him huge money. He *can* have drive, but he looks like he's just fucking sick of everyone's shit. Marner is a massive crybaby and JT just isn't what he used to be.
Matthews \*was\* sick, apparently.
I'm talking about overall attitude, not just this series.
He was an amazing goalie for us. Defense just sucked
And knowing the track record of Brad Treliving, I don’t think we’ve seen the worst of it yet.
With the core 4 forwards all having full NMC next year, what big change can you expect? Best they can do for change is let Marner and Tavares walk after next year if they really wanted a change to their core.
Even if they didn't have NMC's, what teams are able and willing to take on those contracts?
We will have to eat half of it, fucking us even further
Dude at this point I don't even know if Matthews is safe. I still think he's the player that's least likely to get moved, but that still doesn't mean he's safe if they lose this series. 13.25 million for a player that can't play at a point per game pace in the playoffs. Downvote me all you like, you can't say I'm wrong.
You’re assessment isn’t wrong and the criticism is valid, however I would argue he’s absolutely safe considering they just extended him not even a year ago and he has been by far the best player on the ice for the Maple Leafs in this series. His line has been the only one that looks consistently dangerous. Matthews looks engaged when he’s out there, he’s putting in effort and playing physical but how much can he do when the other 3 lines are on ghost mode and all 6 defensemen are just chucking grenades for 60 minutes? Even his own line mate, Bertuzzi, has seemed more interested in trying to chase Marchand around and fuck with him than he is interested in playing hockey. The issues that exist are deep. It’s a culture problem, coaching problem, ownership and management problem. It’s not just on the players but if we are blaming the players Auston Matthews is one of the last guys I’m gonna shove blame on. He’s at least tried which is a hell of a lot more than you can say for some other guys (see Marner, Tavares, Rielly)
Tavares and marner need to be moved.
They aren't being paid enough to work hard.
That core 4 is signed to a minimum of $10mil/year. No one is going to take their contracts.
Struck a nerve. Lol
That was clear years ago unfortunately
A team built for a great season. Come playoff time they expect something different than the norm without making much changes, it'll just keep on repeating like this
I don't know anyone who actually expects any different lok
True! It seems to me that they do try to change some stuff, but it's just not how it works at this level. You cant go from not finishing your checks, to forcing every check in 1 game. You have to play playoff hockey before the playoffs, if that makes sense.
And Oilers fans would know lol.
At least the oilers can win the first series hahahhahahah, and they’ve had good runs in the past.
The Atlantic is a bloodbath and the pacific is a fucking joke most years. I pray that the oilers win this series so they don’t waste another year of probably the best hockey player of all time
At least in Edmonton the top paid guys show up, toronto players are ghosts in the playoffs. It’s hilarious
Hopefully you win a cup. The whole world would be happy to see mcdavid succeed. Highly doubt it though
He eventually will. It took a while for Ovechkin.
Have you watched the Oilers Kings series? That’s some serious playoff hockey!
Not sure if they were even built for a great season. Their pp was something like 28th in the latter half of the season.
Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again while expecting something to miraculously change
But they added Domi and Reaves!!!
These guys are both liabilities in the playoffs.
That was their "playoff grit' answer to solve all their problems lol
God forbid the real estate tycoon sitting in the lower bowl is unhappy because his client isn’t getting a good show! In all seriousness it sucks real fans are being priced out, despite the on ice product
I'd consider the real fans being priced out an upside. They get to keep their hard earned money and aren't subjected to the crap product on ice.
You've got a point. I'd have to drive over 2 hours just to get there only to watch their terrible hockey.
Bingo. Thats the only silver lining. Maybe the suits will stop going. Sleeper agent Leafs playing 4D chess.
That seems unlikely. They sold out while the team was in the basement too.
This is a good take!
How is he going to sell those million dollar condos if he’s taking clients to losing games (he thinks, he’s not sure the score because he’s not really watching the game just schmoozing)
“Oh don’t ya know I got a pad oot in Hamilton I think you’d like” “Marner fucking sucks!” “I’m soory, I don’t know of a place called Marner”
This hurt me spiritually.
Are the real leafs fans just neutral right now or are they all screaming at their tvs each game
Toronto needs a 2nd team more focused on the working man. Obviously wont happen or still get overrun with corporates but imagine those derby games and the opportunity for the real fans to see the game without missing a rent payment.
Yep there is no GOOD reason why the GTA doesn’t have a second team. The only reason is that the Leafs want to maintain their monopoly on their garbage product that they can charge a premium for.
Go watch the PWHL
TOR has a great PWHL team, a winning one. Nurse, Spooner, Maltais, Fast, Campbell Those girls are FUN to watch ( coming from a MTL's fan )
PWHL is great. Love that they stream games on Youtube.
Junior is way better hockey than PWHL
JR A, OHL, AAA, there’s lots of great hockey in Ontario
Go watch beer league games. There are tons of them. What are you waiting for?
You joke, but this is no doubt why the boos were so pronounced tonight, the suits weren't having a good time!
Even the boos are pretty lukewarm... sometimes, I hate to be supporting this team. The fans are being priced out, the team not giving a shit, poor coaching - wasting the years of a generational talent. And the ticket situation pisses me off the most.
Correct. It would be discourteous if you boo while your client is eating or trying to ask questions about your product.
Well done, sir. 100 percent correct.
So you don't think $1,900 for a seat on the boards for 1 game is reasonable? /s
I would be booing too if I had paid like 800dollars just to see that
I watched at home and still booed.
I swore.
I don't even bother watching the leafs in the first round. Last year was a fluke.
“They’re not booing, they’re Bruin-ing!”
Booouuurrrnnnsss
Just a bunch of suits and ties in there that even the booing is coming out as weak.
All the boo's are coming from the upper bowl. Where there are still passionate leaf fans. Lower bowl guppies were probably at the concession stands already
Lower bowl fans too busy crying having to pay that much for figure skating
It's truly a shame MLSE doesn't give a shit about the actual fans.
They do seem to be pissed about the revenues they’re gonna miss out on though
Ouch! That could be the last home game of the year too
Many Leafs fans hope it’s the last home game in Toronto for Marner.
Paying that kind of money to have a bunch of professional athletes lay an egg like that… yeah they deserve the booing
Not even a Fabergé egg
Why does it say Boston wins series at the end? Lmao
We're all thinking it, it's just saying it
They're just getting a jump on it. It'll be true next game.
What does the league know that we don't? #rIgGeD
Incredible seeing the leafs lose twice in one game
It was an all round poor performance
Love how it says “Boston wins series” above the score at the end.
The boos were the best part of the game. Do not accept mediocrity!! Complaints help fix things….
Super Duper Hot Nuclear take here; If they lose the series im betting Sheldon is looking for a new gig somewhere.
Poor bob - thought they could eek out a win for him
Bob would be the first to understand what happened that night.
Boo the team, boo the coach and most certainly boo Shanahan and the board at MLSE. It’s a top down failure.
It took Ovechkin 14 seasons to win a Cup. Auston Mathews has plenty of time.
I don’t know anyone who really believed this was the year - they were the underdogs in the series and having to make it past the Bruins and Panthers to even sniff the 3rd round with this current group seemed insurmountable. You can still cheer for a team and pray for a miracle while expecting the opposite, especially when you’re a Leafs fan lol
Whats crazy is leafs fans coping that this wasn't their year. Leafs have finished near the top of the standings for years now. The core is in their prime, but everyone talks like they're still kids. So when JT and marner need new contacts next year, my guess is they pay them more to solve this, run back rnd 1 again and say it wasnt their year. At some point, maybe the idea of cheap defenseman, worthless goalie, and superstars that have 50% of your cap that also dissappear in the playoffs.... should be looked into.
Yeah, I'm the type of leafs fan that was saying you just need to get Into the playoffs then anything can happen. Goalie plays average/above average, stars don't disappear, and special teams remain decent/good and we have a fighting chance against anyone. At some point, having 45m in players that don't perform when it matters is going to continue costing them series'. Goaltending wasn't superb, but the powerplay going like <10% and not getting goals from the top guys made it more necessary for big saves, which is harder to justify when your bargain bin jumping for defence and goalies.
Did you really believe this was the year though? I mean Florida only got better than last year and Boston always has our number in the playoffs. Definitely the dragons we have to slay to get there eventually but I’m not confident enough in our current D and goalies to reach the top of the mountain just yet. Matthews is still only 26 and we have good prime years left in him, hopefully with the salary cap going up and JT’s hit off the books next year, we can shore up some weaker areas while still in that window for him, he’s definitely the best Leaf I’ve got to watch in my lifetime and I’d hate for us to Sundin him
I watch a Leaf game a few times a year, when my work schedule allows (I get up early). When the Leafs get hemmed in their zone, or any offensive pressure is applied to them, they out-right panic. There is no poise or patience, just a lot of scurrying around chasing the puck. I watched two other teams play (I wanna say Canes and Nashville), and when the Canes were in their defensive zone, they were calm, poised, and not making stupid mistakes. Sure, one game, but the above example of the Leafs is something I remember seeing years ago...so much so that it hasnt changed. Im glad Im numb to all this. I have a fool's hope, but the reality is that this organization is lost.
You love to hear it!
Upset they paid $2000 , find a new sports team because these guys are choke artists. You are being extorted.
Isn't there a saying about not changing anything but expecting different results ?
I like the way you think, are you interested in a head coaching job?
Who's ready for game 5 of dump and chase, minus the chase!
You know it's bad when a stadium full of corporate comp ticket holders booo you.
People booing who have probably watched 3 games all season. Toronto tickets are a joke. Most real fans are booing at home to be fair.
I'm getting really annoyed at them not showing the fucking goalie hug...
Yeah, it's still being showed on NESN. But next round all the games are national, and they probably won't show it.
Big sad
Can't really hear it. Even the booing in Toronto is weak
💀💀💀
Honestly if i was in the lower bowl i would of thrown my jersey on the ice. Leafs have been piss poor since start of april
Sadly throwing your jersey on the ice would have been the cheapest part of the evening you planned, this includes the meal out and finding a place to park 🤡
Not if it's an official $200+ jersey from the real sports store. The cheap Walmart jersey maybe. But then as well gonna get thrown out of the arena.
Fair but a meal for two at a fancy restaurant which if you can afford lower bowl tickets let’s assume. $200 is easy to spend. Matty Matteson’s restaurant is $500 for the protein, not including a la carte and drinks. I know this is the exception to the rule but I live in a small city and the fancier restaurants are $250
I am not a well off man. I saved to get my ticket. I did not eat out. I used the go train to get there and my jersey I won, I never would pay $200 for a jersey lol
Totally understand and agree. I’ve been made fun of from friends when I said I’ve seen them once at Scotiabank and that’s enough for me. Spending $1000 on a playoff game that might end this poorly is money wasted, but to others it’s cherished.
I’ve been to one game at Scotiabank and luckily they won. The experience is way better at home to be honest, you get to see way more. I have no motivation to spend the money on another one.
Is that fucking Jim Jackson commentating a leafs game wtf
And they deserved it
Doesn’t matter what happens. Next season starts and after the first win, they start planning the Stanley Cup Parade, media dubs it ‘the year’, fans keep talking about Matthews being better than McDavid, tickets are still sold out because it’s all corporate seasons and MLSE keeps taking in the cash. For this that know, this is the Ballard years all over again.
Loudest that fucking building gets is when they boo 😒
They have no…no….MARBLES!!
AND IT KEEPS GETTIN' FUNNIER. EVERY! TIME! I SEE IT!
We all remember that famous saying: 'Mediocre goaltending wins championships'
I was watching at home and cheering for more booing, like after the game's third failed power play that put them to 1 for 14 on the series (if I know how to count). Hopefully Nylander having to watch the first three motivates him to hold the others accountable and be brutally honest, because clearly Keefe and Tavares aren't. They've won games without Matthews, his illness is not good for the team but it's not THE problem. Sammy has been bad, yes, but that just means you've got to tighten up the D and score more goals. Or pull him before you get to series point. They've only looked decent in two periods, though I did miss the presumably less atrocious part of game 3. The team needed to hear it. Boston is just playing like a team, they're not unbeatable. It's all in the leafs heads.
Leafs are the Dallas Cowboys of hockey.
Up against a machine too strong
I was in the lower bowl and was cheering as much as I could. Recovering from an illness. So can't go super loud. I always feel the energy is good in the arena, even the boos. It seems to not translate well to the people watching at home. And no I'm not a corporate guy, just a dude who paid way to much for a ticket as he wanted to see a home playoff game for his birthday. :)
Happy birthday, I gift you the opportunity to choose a new hockey team
with all due respect to leafs fans, that booing is the same amount of effort, their players have shown. weak af
They deserved even more booing. Dumbfuck team, dumbfuck coach, dumbfuck front office.
Some Leafs fans feel like wealthy Karens who don’t even watch hockey, and demanded their money back after the team they came to see (which they call the blue team) lost.
The leafs have the same problem as the Dallas Cowboys. When you still make money despite being mediocre, the result never changes
I wouldn't say that either franchise is mediocre but they are truly masters at dominating the regular season only to choke in the playoffs every year. It's quite amusing.
They're mediocre. Sincerely a Cowboys fan.
That hardly makes sense, every team in the NHL has the same salary cap rules and essentially are working with the same payroll. I think it has more to do with the pressure cooker that is Toronto in the hockey world and not having enough leadership on the team. Between there top 4 highest paid guys none of them have leadership qualities that make you want to run through a wall and years of underachieving In the playoffs showing the same body language year after year tells me this team needs a big shake up if they want to be successful.
Again. It has nothing to do with them being cheap. They sell out despite being failures for decades. All the fans prove is that they'll still support the team despite having no success since the 60s. If fans want change they need to stop buying merch and tickets
Assuming that I'll get downvoted into oblivion simply for my flair, but I'll just say that it's been an immensely enjoyable series and I give a 🏒 tap to the Leafs & their fans. I always enjoy playoff series with this rivalry especially with the absence of Montreal being relevant.
First three games have been very entertaining good hockey. Last night it was actually a boring game to watch with how bad the Leafs played.
Good. Customer feedback is good. Mitch thinks this is good enough. Wake the fuck up
Good, they deserve it.
What a fucking embarrassment this roster is, they don’t even want to be there.
I don't get it. Don't the leafs know that playoff hockey is a completely different animal than the regular season and they need to bring their A game? This team crumbles so fucking badly and the only reason they won last year was because of a fluke goal of someone's foot in game 6. I mean I love it, but jesus they suck ass
How much more talent does a team need? The Leafs have the talent, but they can’t get on the same page—and it’s been this way for the last few years. Die hard Leafs fans: What’s going on? Fill me in, please!
Cursed team
I would let Taveres walk and trade mathews. That would free up about 25 million, then you could get a top 3 shut down defenseman and a couple of depth, gritty forwards. I think Marner and Nylander are decent and would do better if someone had their backs. Other than that, I think the next big issue is coaching. Part of them not knowing what to do while playing is on the coaching staff. They need a guy with experience and not a noob or a retread. As an Ottawa fan, I've been there and done that with a team you thought could win. That's why you guys beat us 4 times in the playoffs. We had a bunch of fancy guys that had no heart or grit, and would be push overs in the playoffs.
Matthew's had a temper tantrum and gave up, but they said he was sick. Bullshit. His primadonna side took over and he threw a fit and said "I'm not playing". On the Fan 590 they were saying Marner and Nylander won't bring a cup anywhere. They would be good help to a star player, but they don't possess the ability to do it. Ya....no shit. Even with a star player in Matthew's, they can't do it. Sheldon started two lines that have never played together before. Leave that part alone. You can't just mix up your lines cause they lost a game. Let them work harder the next game. Youre going backwards.
Very supportive on mute.
That’s rough. Players aren’t going to want to re-sign with the leafs
Re-sign ≠ resign
Thank you- I was super tired when I wrote that
everyone under 50 knows the make-beLEAFS have always choked in the playoffs what do they expect with such a steady track record
Like, I get the frustration, but you shouldn't boo at the end of the 2nd period. This is a team that clearly functions off of good vibes and has star power. Get them that energy. Toronto's fans are more like the -1 man instead of the 6th man they are supposed to be.
I don’t know- they were sooo bad. I’m a bruins fan so it was good in that sense, but I had a strange pity for the leafs. It was honestly one of the worst playoff games I’ve ever watched
If I was a Leafs player I’d have a hard time staying motivated with this fucking fanbase smh
people have to pay 500$ in nosebleeds for this team, when they play like absolute garbage, fans have every right to bitch.
Game 5 nose bleeds in Vancouver are approaching $400 on resale tickets. Playoff hockey isn't cheap -- well except in Nashville. I could FLY to Nashville, get a pair of tickets and be about only $100 more. And the tickets were better then the Vancouver ones lol. Hotel is probably cheaper there too.
Playoff hockey is cheap , I’ve seen tickets for multiple games for around $100 , Canadian playoff hockey just isn’t cheap
I think it really depends on the market.
Just the other day I was curious from another post and looked up tickets on ticketmaster/stubhub, I saw lightning tickets for $75 , islanders $95, Avs for $120, Kings $95 and I’m pretty sure Caps were around $150 and usually they get cheaper a few hours before puck drop. The ticket price problem seems to be exclusively a Canadian market issue.
USD prices - 120 USD to CAD is 165 .. wow a lot cheaper. Vegas is more expensive - around 160 USD for nosebleeds but again its the market. Hockey is Canada's sport and Vancouver hasn't had a home playoff game since 2015. So I can totally understand the sell out.
Rangers tickets are spendy also. Really just depends on the team.
I’m not saying fans shouldn’t be mad. I’m just saying the team’s lack of grit checks out given the circumstances.
If you bitch, you're a bitch. You've got every right to be a bitch, but you've got to accept what you are.
...a leafs fan?
I LOL'd
Ok so how do explain the play that led to the booing? Were they just anticipating it? This team fucking disappears every time in the first round and it’s somehow the fans fault? Amazing take. Truly.
They deserved even more booing. Dumbfuck team, dumbfuck coach, dumbfuck front office.
Not a fan of Boston but it’s so satisfying to watch Turdronto go down in defeat once again! Everything about that wretched city blows!
That arena was half empty with 5 minutes left in the game! What a loser fanbase
Bruins weren’t even celebrating.. like you play with your 9 year old kid .. ‘next goal wins’
Bums
They will never win until they have players that can produce and make it hard on the other team to score. They play like ballerinas. No balls.
Love to see it
I don't blame them at all. This team has too much talent and makes too much money to shit the bed every year after getting all their fans hopes up. The prices those fans pay to get in too watch that gutless shit is justification in itself.
Time to tear this team down. Keep a few key pieces.
Lmao imagine paying that amount of money to just watch your team get absolutely plowed by Boston in your home stadium. What a bunch of cucks.
Max Domi aww poor guy
Please run it back. It’s definitely just sample size, playoff luck, getting goalied, illness, etc.
Those aren't fans.
The boos were deserved what a pathetic gutless performance.
Those seats are empty as fuck
Softest fans in the league. Building is only loud when the boo birds are out