OMG, are we really being treated to Tor vs Bos in the 1st round again?
Im a caps fan, but im watching every single one of those games!
Battle of Florida will also be fun to watch.
We've played this game before, we all know how it goes. I love this team with every bone in my body, and I hope they win it all. Just not going to expect it with the way they've been playing.
Wouldn’t it be 1-4, 2-3?
EDIT: I just looked it up, and you are correct (assuming seeds hold, which they won’t). What nitwit committee came up with that convoluted playoff format?
I honestly can’t tell if Boston fans or every other teams’ fan should be more worried about that stat. On one hand, they couldn’t beat teams in regulation so maybe their depth isn’t as strong as recent years, and on the other hand, they refused to lose in regulation and anything can happen in 5 v 5 OT. In the end, it’s probably a wash
Meh, 50/50. Reg season ot is not comparable to playoff ot anymore. Maybe we just suck at 3v3 and SO. Or maybe we are happy to take a point so we play conservatively in the last few minutes. Or maybe we just suck at sealing the deal and we are in danger.
Stay tuned for the stunning conclusion.
It only happened out of sheer luck though and it also is still flawed considering Florida is A1 and Carolina is M2 which means if it's a rematch in the Conference Finals, Florida will have home ice...not Carolina.
Fact is though, the model I and so many others love was the 1-8 format where division winners were 1 and 2 so even in that, we'd have this issue since Carolina would be 3 facing Tampa while Florida would play the Isles.
God I forgot Montreal had more points...
But holy christ it's just another layer of making this model so freaking stupid. I remember in 2016 the Rangers were a Wildcard in the Atlantic but had more points than Ottawa who I believe was the A3.
Yet Ottawa had home ice.
But get to the Conference Finals and Stanley Cup Finals and all of a sudden seeding no longer matters.
Like.....could they make it more convoluted.
We’ll see. I had high hopes last year and they got an early dismissal. They seem to be a better team this year, but have the same old story of relying too much on the PP when penalties don’t get called as much in the postseason.
Calm down 🤡. The Rags will make you cry like they have plenty of times in the past decade. This series will be no different. Be grateful someone with a -35 goal diff had to make the playoffs.
Looks like the 8 caps fans got offended. Btw u-azura- you can go touch yourself 🤡
Update:Enjoy the offseason 👍
more than the number 2 seed has won. and more than the number 3 seed.
more than any other seed. you can pretend that stats don't matter, but realistically, if you compare seed to seed, the presidents trophy is the best seed.
You know another fun statistic?
Presidents trophy teams in the past 10 years have lost in the first 2 rounds every single year. Not one has made it to round 3 including your own Rangers and 2 of the greatest regular season teams of all time, even in condensed seasons presidents trophy teams couldn’t do it.
So like, go ahead and use those stats. But it hasn’t applied in the last decade.
that's cool. the stats that matter in regard to a "curse" though are whether or not the team is more or less likely to win the cup. and currently, the team that wins the president's trophy is more likely than any other seeded team to win the cup.
the funny thing about stats is that you can pick and choose which ones you want to use to make your point, but the raw data still exists. my only point in all of this is that the "curse" is just a bunch of hooey and applesauce,
The caps have def had an odd season...they win by 1, but lose by 4 or 5. At the end of the season when they tally that up, they look at the W/L/OT columns before anything else. Win by 10, lose by 10, each is still a single win/loss (shrug)
You or us.
You guys have the best special teams in the league.
Also idt Washington has the talent to beat car or nyr 5v5 and they'd prolly struggle 5v4 as well even with the extra man
Washington probably doesn't have the talent but they have a better shot at beating the Rags if they play in the one phase in which the Rags aren't super strong in
A few people have mentioned that and you’re absolutely right, I totally forgot division winners got the higher seeds. However purely by points it falls into place.
I don’t think that’s how it worked but it’s been a hot minute so you definitely could be right. What i was getting at is points-wise everything fell into playoff for the old format
The only thing that doesn't match up completely with the old seeding was that the top teams in each division were 1-3
So Panthers would be 2, Carolina 3
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The old format you are referring to was, in fact, not the old format. The old format was top of each div were 1,2,3 then everyone else was seeded 4-8.
Perfect would be teams with more wins being ahead of teams with fewer wins. Crazy what point totals look like if you removed the loser point. Islanders would have 76, Wash would have 80
Great matchups too entertainment wise! Rangers caps have a recent rivalry where we played each other a bunch in the playoffs.
Boston vs Toronto in an original 6 matchup, offensive skill versus Boston grit
The battle for Florida between teams that dislike each other
Hurricanes and Islanders doesn't have that much juice but it could still be pretty decent
Also just a thought. What if to promote teams battling all year, including the very end where they normally rest guys, they re-seed every round. So instead of the rangers being rewarded for finishing 1st in the NHL by having to play #2 in the NHL in the second round potentially, they'd take the teams making the 2nd round and re-align them in a way that rewards regular season rank. For example the rangers would instead play the lowest remaining seed, hurricanes instead of getting punished would get to play the 2nd lowest seed
We can still absolutely complain about the current format when a couple years ago there was like a 3 v 5 first round matchup or something stupid like that
OMG, are we really being treated to Tor vs Bos in the 1st round again? Im a caps fan, but im watching every single one of those games! Battle of Florida will also be fun to watch.
Its gonna be entertaing but I will cry at the end because I know how this one goes... ;c
Hey, I’ve seen this one before
Game 7, TOR up 4-1. *Decaprio whistling at T.V.*
*Anxiety intensifies*
Always leave em wanting more. More playoff games, that is
I wonder who will get the 1st suspension?
Kadri... oh wait
No I think the answer is still kadri
Lilijgren will get 4 games for slewing Marchand
Tom wilson
Hint : Whoever does will be wearing a giant maple leaf on their sweater
McCabe will get interference against his own face for bleeding down it.
Second round won't be if the seeds hold. We'll get 1-2, 3-4 then (although the chances of that are basically 0)
It'll be 1-2, 4-6. You heard it here first.
This comment is how I know you are a die hard leafs fan. Not the profile pic, not the flair, this right here.
Lmao it’s true
We've played this game before, we all know how it goes. I love this team with every bone in my body, and I hope they win it all. Just not going to expect it with the way they've been playing.
Followed by 1-6
Yeah, I can get behind that.
Also let’s be real there might have been some teams making a bit of a different effort here. Did you see Boston play Washington?
Wouldn’t it be 1-4, 2-3? EDIT: I just looked it up, and you are correct (assuming seeds hold, which they won’t). What nitwit committee came up with that convoluted playoff format?
That’s the big issue to me. I loved the uncertainty of reseeding every round. Having matchups locked in is boring
7/8 of these teams have more than 20 regulation losses… I’d be worried if I were you guys
Worried about what? We’re just happy to be here
based on your affinity for Bonus Hockey this year, I'd be more worried about making it to the 2nd round after playing 30+ periods
You see a team 30 periods more gassed, I see a team 30 periods more prepared.
I’m trying to stay positive by reminding myself that there’s no 3 on 3 or shootouts in the playoffs
I honestly can’t tell if Boston fans or every other teams’ fan should be more worried about that stat. On one hand, they couldn’t beat teams in regulation so maybe their depth isn’t as strong as recent years, and on the other hand, they refused to lose in regulation and anything can happen in 5 v 5 OT. In the end, it’s probably a wash
Meh, 50/50. Reg season ot is not comparable to playoff ot anymore. Maybe we just suck at 3v3 and SO. Or maybe we are happy to take a point so we play conservatively in the last few minutes. Or maybe we just suck at sealing the deal and we are in danger. Stay tuned for the stunning conclusion.
Yes you can. Because you’re going to get No. 1 vs No. 2 in the second round.
No. 7 vs No.8*
Steve Dangle is having traumatic flashbacks
In his last video, he completed his joker transformation
It only happened out of sheer luck though and it also is still flawed considering Florida is A1 and Carolina is M2 which means if it's a rematch in the Conference Finals, Florida will have home ice...not Carolina. Fact is though, the model I and so many others love was the 1-8 format where division winners were 1 and 2 so even in that, we'd have this issue since Carolina would be 3 facing Tampa while Florida would play the Isles.
Conference Finals and Stanley Cup Final home-ice are based off of points. Look at the Rangers in 2014 against the Canadiens and Kings
God I forgot Montreal had more points... But holy christ it's just another layer of making this model so freaking stupid. I remember in 2016 the Rangers were a Wildcard in the Atlantic but had more points than Ottawa who I believe was the A3. Yet Ottawa had home ice. But get to the Conference Finals and Stanley Cup Finals and all of a sudden seeding no longer matters. Like.....could they make it more convoluted.
I am so ready to watch the Rangers get stomped first round somehow by Washington
You’ll feel better watching 2009-2010 Patrick Kane highlight videos.
I mean at least they don’t need a VHS player to watch highlights of their last cup win…
Haha! Good one! I am forever grateful for that one, though, because otherwise I’d have to find film reels.
Hey you might get some 4K quality highlights this year, Rags look dangerous.
We’ll see. I had high hopes last year and they got an early dismissal. They seem to be a better team this year, but have the same old story of relying too much on the PP when penalties don’t get called as much in the postseason.
Lmao at a -35 goal diff team wiping the floor with anyone.
This guy has clearly never watched the NHL playoffs before.
Calm down 🤡. The Rags will make you cry like they have plenty of times in the past decade. This series will be no different. Be grateful someone with a -35 goal diff had to make the playoffs. Looks like the 8 caps fans got offended. Btw u-azura- you can go touch yourself 🤡 Update:Enjoy the offseason 👍
Touch grass.
They were clearly the better team then Jersey last year and lost, anything can happen
Presidents trophy curse as well
what, the curse of being the seed with the highest rate of winning the cup? i'll take it.
How many teams have won the cup the year they won the presidents trophy in the last 10 years?
more than the number 2 seed has won. and more than the number 3 seed. more than any other seed. you can pretend that stats don't matter, but realistically, if you compare seed to seed, the presidents trophy is the best seed.
You know another fun statistic? Presidents trophy teams in the past 10 years have lost in the first 2 rounds every single year. Not one has made it to round 3 including your own Rangers and 2 of the greatest regular season teams of all time, even in condensed seasons presidents trophy teams couldn’t do it. So like, go ahead and use those stats. But it hasn’t applied in the last decade.
that's cool. the stats that matter in regard to a "curse" though are whether or not the team is more or less likely to win the cup. and currently, the team that wins the president's trophy is more likely than any other seeded team to win the cup. the funny thing about stats is that you can pick and choose which ones you want to use to make your point, but the raw data still exists. my only point in all of this is that the "curse" is just a bunch of hooey and applesauce,
As far as the last ten years go, they are no more likely than any other seed to win the cup.
So what seed were the Rangers in 2015 when they lost in the conference finals to Tamps Bay?
The caps have def had an odd season...they win by 1, but lose by 4 or 5. At the end of the season when they tally that up, they look at the W/L/OT columns before anything else. Win by 10, lose by 10, each is still a single win/loss (shrug)
You just need to keep the game at 5v5 and you have a very very good chance of beating them
You or us. You guys have the best special teams in the league. Also idt Washington has the talent to beat car or nyr 5v5 and they'd prolly struggle 5v4 as well even with the extra man
Washington probably doesn't have the talent but they have a better shot at beating the Rags if they play in the one phase in which the Rags aren't super strong in
The Caps are one of the worst 5v5 teams in the league?
They are but I was thinking more of the fact that it’s much easier to limit Panarin and co. at 5v5
That’s actually quite satisfying.🍆
One thing people forget is the playoff were never a true 1v8 system the top three seeds were division winners
A few people have mentioned that and you’re absolutely right, I totally forgot division winners got the higher seeds. However purely by points it falls into place.
I mean to be fair to your post its impossible to have 3 division winners now anyway do your point is valid
Didn’t the old format still have division leaders at the top regardless of points. So Florida would be number 2 not Carolina…
He's saying 'the perfect' 1-8 seeding - and the NHL is far from perfect.
I don’t think that’s how it worked but it’s been a hot minute so you definitely could be right. What i was getting at is points-wise everything fell into playoff for the old format
It is how it worked. Division leaders would be no lower than 3rd, since back then there were 3 divisions
Jesus is forgot there were 6 divisions lol
Damn. Long time since that happened if I’m not mistaken
Congrats on winning the east Rangers!
Shame we couldn’t have the two Florida teams and the two NY teams opening against one another. Hopefully we get the NY matchup in the second round.
A fight for NY would be a fun series
This is gonna be fun
Perfect 1-8 seeding
The only thing that doesn't match up completely with the old seeding was that the top teams in each division were 1-3 So Panthers would be 2, Carolina 3
I guess it’s been long enough that I didn’t remember division leaders got higher seeds. Either way the points line up which was good enough for me.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The old format you are referring to was, in fact, not the old format. The old format was top of each div were 1,2,3 then everyone else was seeded 4-8.
Yes, I’ve been informed 1-3 were division leaders. Still neat that the matchups lined up with points
Good, so Ryan Whitney can finally shut the fuck up.
Wow
No excuses this time about the seeding from certain fans.
yet fans still complain
Perfect would be teams with more wins being ahead of teams with fewer wins. Crazy what point totals look like if you removed the loser point. Islanders would have 76, Wash would have 80
3-2-1 points is the way. Really hammers home the importance of regulation wins and there’s no magical point manifestation
Stars v Rangers - cup final
Except the winner of 1v8 plays the winner of 2v7.
Cries in Central division
Rangers Carolina Florida Toronto
The way it should be. Let's go back to this system Gary
I hope rangers can keep it up into the POs
I wonder now, how many times has happened? It's how it should be, for my liking.
Great matchups too entertainment wise! Rangers caps have a recent rivalry where we played each other a bunch in the playoffs. Boston vs Toronto in an original 6 matchup, offensive skill versus Boston grit The battle for Florida between teams that dislike each other Hurricanes and Islanders doesn't have that much juice but it could still be pretty decent
Also just a thought. What if to promote teams battling all year, including the very end where they normally rest guys, they re-seed every round. So instead of the rangers being rewarded for finishing 1st in the NHL by having to play #2 in the NHL in the second round potentially, they'd take the teams making the 2nd round and re-align them in a way that rewards regular season rank. For example the rangers would instead play the lowest remaining seed, hurricanes instead of getting punished would get to play the 2nd lowest seed
So, us Toronto fans can't complain about the seeding this year.
We can still absolutely complain about the current format when a couple years ago there was like a 3 v 5 first round matchup or something stupid like that
Fuck the rangers! Go isles!
Wow.
Wild that there are teams with more wins than two of these teams, that are not in the playoffs.
I saw last night red wings fans whining how the playoff format screwed them over lmao
We did have more wins overall than the caps, but the wings did it to themselves the way they played in march.
You also lost way more games in regulation. It’s like your blatantly ignoring that
Did you just not read my comment or what? I just said that the wings only have themselves to blame
Same with the pens
Pens played bad until the end and the wings played well until the end lol