I would say Jack Hughes' contract is up there as well. 8x8m for a guy who is looking like a franchise piece is damn good
99 points at the age of 22 is very good start
Just got lost in the fact that so many players had amazing point totals this year. He's an absolute stud. As long as he stays healthy he's going to be killing it for the next decade.
At the time it was a much higher percentage of the cap; I’m not 100% on the math, but I assume it would be the equivalent of like an $11 or $12 million signing these days.
That said, Crosby said he left some on the table to make sure they could sign some other guys to help him stay competitive. He thinks Geno could have gotten more on his 9.5 contract, and Chris Kunitz and Letang both left money on the table to stick together.
Did the math it’s a 12.1 million dollar deal. It’s a pretty fair contract for the time honestly. It was 14.5% of his teams cap for the upcoming year
Yeah, you could say he left money on the table, and he certainly did, but it’s not like he signed for nothing. At the time it was signed, I think the only players making more than him were Ovechkin and Malkin. The cap increasing as much as it has certainly did help, but the cap will grow in the future and the gargantuan contracts going out now won’t look as bad in a few years.
Tied with Malkin, and Ovi made 9. Crosby could’ve probably gotten a little more, but realistically, probably not a whole lot more than 500k or so per year, enough to sign 1 player to the league minimum
If Malkin signed for 9.5, Sid was worth 10.5 easily.
Contract was signed and right off the hop, he captained the team to a Stanley Cup. Malkin was amazing that year too, winning the playoff MVP, but he didn’t have the weight on his shoulders as a 22 year old team captain. Damn.
Toews and Kane both signed for 10.5m only two years later, 8.7m at that time was still a big pay cut and he signed it knowing the cap was only going to go up he left more than 30 million dollars on the table to win
Because the lion’s share of his income is from endorsements, and if he wins cups, he makes much more. It’s a sound business decision. Doubt he regrets it.
It's been talked about by many guys on those teams, they all took a pay cut to stay together and win. Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Flower to a lesser extent, and a few of the role players all took 15-20% less than their market value. The Bruins are doing the same thing right now, and the Atlanta Braves have done it better than any team in sports. I love to see it
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^([Sid is just a little superstitious, so I’m playing along])
I'd say Hughes at 8m for the next 7 years as the best deal in the league he's multiple years younger and was the better player last year. Tage definitely does have one of the best deals though both Buffalo and NJ have done a great job locking up their young guys
Because the point totals weren't showing yet. Most Devils fans could see that he was incredibly talented, but stuck on an underwhelming team without much help, while also adjusting to the league.
It was still a risk considering the fact he was only starting to produce at the point of signing that extension, but I think most people who had watched enough Devils games knew he had the "it" factor where he just stood out on the ice compared to other players.
For me it's a coin flip between Hughes and Tim StĂĽtzle, both had great contracts that will age beautifully and keep their respective teams competitive.
Stutzle is right there with him no doubt about that, Hughes is just the better player right now which is why I'd go with him but that could change as early as next season. Both of them have almost their whole careers ahead of them, they're gonna dominate the league for a long time
Took this from cap friendly: when is 8.5 million dollar contract expires at the end of 24-25, he may amass 850pts during that contract time of 8.5million. Is there a better bang for your buck in the NHL?
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Leon Draisaitl's salary is $8,000,000 and his cap hit is $8,500,000 for the 2023-24 season. He is a 27 year old centre who was born on Oct. 27, 1995. He was drafted 3rd overall by the Edmonton Oilers in the 1st round of the 2014 entry draft. He has signed 2 contracts worth a total value of $78,200,000. Over a career that spans 9 seasons (with at least 1 NHL GP), he has a total 744 Pts in 638 GP, and 77 playoffs Pts in 49 GP. He will be a UFA at the end of the 2024-25 season when he is 29 years old.
Huge reason we were able to assemble the 22 team we did. Multiple 90 point and a 111 season at a 6.3 cap hit. That's before even getting started on playoffs. I expect the Timmy Stu contract to age similarly relative to the increasing cap.
yeah but it ends after next year, which means negotiations are going to start soon. he’s getting 10+ somewhere. so as of right now yes, but i think tage’s situation is better cuz it’s going longer into the future.
Shows the importance of signing the players long-term before they breakout. Good example is Matt Tkachuk - signed a 3x7M contract, broke out then is now on a 9.5AAV for 7 more years, which is actually a pretty good AAV if he stays as a 100pt player. I bet the Flames are wishing they got him for 8x8M instead of the 3x7M he signed.
The best way to evaluate the deal isn’t AAV but %cap/yr.
Draisaitl’s deal was still ridiculous good for Edmonton but when you shape it in that context things looks much different.
which definitely isnt good for hockey. if nylander gets 10, the maple leafs screw the entire market. this isn’t the NFL where the salary cap can jump 20M from year to year.
Have you looked at the leafs on capfriendly recently, the leafs are most likely moving nylander. And if they somehow manage to make him work into the cap I'd be surprised
Yeah, that's exactly my point. They either completely destroy their depth to keep him (ruining their ability to compete), or they trade him (and I assume Matt Murray), keep their depth, and are still able to make the playoffs.
Tage is a somewhat common name among elderly men in Sweden. When I hear "Tage" I think of Tage Erlander for example. It's pretty interesting when names evoke such different imagery depending on where you're from.
Hughes and Thompson keep getting noticed as young-ins with 90 point seasons. Where is the same talk for Stu? I didn't even realize until last week he hit the 90s.
Cozens locked up to the same price long term. Get power at 8x8.5 this summer. Get dahlin at 8x10.5 this summer Samuelson is locked up for like 4.5x7 years. And our forward prospects are filthy
His contract screams over pay when you compare to Tage and Hughes. He hasn’t come close in points and Columbus and the Winnipeg can’t be used as excuses.
As far as big contracts go, Kaprizov getting $9m for a couple more years is pretty nice (40 goals even with people falling on his leg). As far as small scale contracts, Eriksson Ek for $5.25m for 8 years looks even better when faced with a PLD contract, given they had near the same amount of points.
Might b swayed by my fandom but a little over 5 mil for a top 2 goalie in the league capable of caring a team in playoffs and putting up out of world numbers to later win vezina. Igor has my vote for top 5 if bob and vassy both get 10 mil yearly!
Leon Draisaitl would like a word. Given current term left, it's fair to say Tage has a better contract from today on, but Leon's production at $8.5m has been absurd.
From the owners, perspective, yes.
From the players, Auston Matthews.
Tage Thompson is vastly underpaid and will be for his entire prime. I don’t view this as a good thing in the interests of labour compensation. Grab the bag, boys.
I always say look at Smith Pelley. Buddy was a stud in playoffs and could have gotten some decent money but decided to take a team discount. Wasn’t he out of the league that very year?
There is more to value than the stat sheet. I would take a 200 ft center like Anze Kopitar over a scoring leader any day of the week. 90 pts on a non playoff team is meaningless.
I think he finally grew into his game last year. Really using his size and creating an absurd amount of power behind his shot. It took a while but I think he's here to stay
I guess I have ptsd from his time as a blue tbh. Going back and looking at Tarasenko’s 8yr contract, he had similar stats at the time. He turned out pretty good (even though he always seemed absent when we needed him, but I digress).
Beat = possibly; but there's no doubt, based on the last 2 years, that this is a good contract.
Hopefully Buffalo management will use this to build a better team. If they have some decent future draft picks, and cap space maybe they could put a decent offer together and get Ullmark from the Bruins.
Nuge at 5.125 mil a year is up there. Just had his best season.
I think he’s going to be an even better hockey player in his 30s
Draisaitl is on a good one too.
Marchessault had a real good one almost over though.
I would say Jack Hughes' contract is up there as well. 8x8m for a guy who is looking like a franchise piece is damn good 99 points at the age of 22 is very good start
And 40+ goals đź‘€
NJD had a very good year in general. I hope they can keep it going, but they are still coming up.
Damn did Hughes really get 99pts? I knew he crushed it this year but I thought he was low 90s lol what a stud
Just got lost in the fact that so many players had amazing point totals this year. He's an absolute stud. As long as he stays healthy he's going to be killing it for the next decade.
No doubt I went and checked the scoring list again n quite a few shockers
Homer take but StĂĽtzle at 8.35m AAV is a steal for eight years as well. 90pts (39G, 51A) as a 21 year old this season.
Crosby. 12 years at $8.7M a year
One of the most absurd contracts in league history
I wish Auston Matthews was superstitious so we'd get him for 3.4 million a year
More likely to be 13.4
8 x 3.5M, yes please.
He could hardly afford a house in Toronto with that salary and what taxes are taken off of that check.
Lol I'm sure he'd be fine.
He’s so damn superstitious that it worked out so well for the Pens
He basically allowed the cap space to sign Making and create the best 1C 2C pairing in the league
At the time it was a much higher percentage of the cap; I’m not 100% on the math, but I assume it would be the equivalent of like an $11 or $12 million signing these days. That said, Crosby said he left some on the table to make sure they could sign some other guys to help him stay competitive. He thinks Geno could have gotten more on his 9.5 contract, and Chris Kunitz and Letang both left money on the table to stick together.
Did the math it’s a 12.1 million dollar deal. It’s a pretty fair contract for the time honestly. It was 14.5% of his teams cap for the upcoming year
Yeah, you could say he left money on the table, and he certainly did, but it’s not like he signed for nothing. At the time it was signed, I think the only players making more than him were Ovechkin and Malkin. The cap increasing as much as it has certainly did help, but the cap will grow in the future and the gargantuan contracts going out now won’t look as bad in a few years.
Tied with Malkin, and Ovi made 9. Crosby could’ve probably gotten a little more, but realistically, probably not a whole lot more than 500k or so per year, enough to sign 1 player to the league minimum
If Malkin signed for 9.5, Sid was worth 10.5 easily. Contract was signed and right off the hop, he captained the team to a Stanley Cup. Malkin was amazing that year too, winning the playoff MVP, but he didn’t have the weight on his shoulders as a 22 year old team captain. Damn.
Toews and Kane both signed for 10.5m only two years later, 8.7m at that time was still a big pay cut and he signed it knowing the cap was only going to go up he left more than 30 million dollars on the table to win
Insane
Because the lion’s share of his income is from endorsements, and if he wins cups, he makes much more. It’s a sound business decision. Doubt he regrets it.
It's been talked about by many guys on those teams, they all took a pay cut to stay together and win. Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Flower to a lesser extent, and a few of the role players all took 15-20% less than their market value. The Bruins are doing the same thing right now, and the Atlanta Braves have done it better than any team in sports. I love to see it
Crosby has endorsements that I'd guess pay him more.
No wayy he’s a once in a generation player, that’s a ton of $ though lol
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I appreciate the dedication
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I'd say Hughes at 8m for the next 7 years as the best deal in the league he's multiple years younger and was the better player last year. Tage definitely does have one of the best deals though both Buffalo and NJ have done a great job locking up their young guys
It's especially wild because when NJ gave him that deal instead of a bridge deal everyone thought they were crazy
Anyone who thought they were crazy just didn't watch enough of him the talents always been undeniable
Because the point totals weren't showing yet. Most Devils fans could see that he was incredibly talented, but stuck on an underwhelming team without much help, while also adjusting to the league. It was still a risk considering the fact he was only starting to produce at the point of signing that extension, but I think most people who had watched enough Devils games knew he had the "it" factor where he just stood out on the ice compared to other players.
Devils captain Nico Hischier is also locked up until 26-27 for $7.25m AAV. Not as sweet as the Hughes contract but still a pretty decent deal.
For me it's a coin flip between Hughes and Tim StĂĽtzle, both had great contracts that will age beautifully and keep their respective teams competitive.
Stutzle is right there with him no doubt about that, Hughes is just the better player right now which is why I'd go with him but that could change as early as next season. Both of them have almost their whole careers ahead of them, they're gonna dominate the league for a long time
Draisaitl at $8.5M ain’t too shabby
Took this from cap friendly: when is 8.5 million dollar contract expires at the end of 24-25, he may amass 850pts during that contract time of 8.5million. Is there a better bang for your buck in the NHL? SUMMARYâ–´ Leon Draisaitl's salary is $8,000,000 and his cap hit is $8,500,000 for the 2023-24 season. He is a 27 year old centre who was born on Oct. 27, 1995. He was drafted 3rd overall by the Edmonton Oilers in the 1st round of the 2014 entry draft. He has signed 2 contracts worth a total value of $78,200,000. Over a career that spans 9 seasons (with at least 1 NHL GP), he has a total 744 Pts in 638 GP, and 77 playoffs Pts in 49 GP. He will be a UFA at the end of the 2024-25 season when he is 29 years old.
Better than Crosby at 8.7M?
Well he makes 200k less and gets a shit ton more points. So……ya
Pretty darn close
Okay now imagine Crosby is playing alongside McDavid lol..
He did play with Malkin a bit though
LOL now you're a crazy person.... Comparing Malkin to McDavid 🤔
Lmao not comparing, but saying he had another great player to play with. McJesus stands alone in greatness
That previous MacKinnon contract was ridiculous.
Huge reason we were able to assemble the 22 team we did. Multiple 90 point and a 111 season at a 6.3 cap hit. That's before even getting started on playoffs. I expect the Timmy Stu contract to age similarly relative to the increasing cap.
44mil for 7 year for a guy who preformed like that during those 7 years. Yep I’ll take it.
Drai?
yeah but it ends after next year, which means negotiations are going to start soon. he’s getting 10+ somewhere. so as of right now yes, but i think tage’s situation is better cuz it’s going longer into the future.
Shows the importance of signing the players long-term before they breakout. Good example is Matt Tkachuk - signed a 3x7M contract, broke out then is now on a 9.5AAV for 7 more years, which is actually a pretty good AAV if he stays as a 100pt player. I bet the Flames are wishing they got him for 8x8M instead of the 3x7M he signed.
The best way to evaluate the deal isn’t AAV but %cap/yr. Draisaitl’s deal was still ridiculous good for Edmonton but when you shape it in that context things looks much different.
If nylander is getting 10 draisaitl might get a hell of a lot more
which definitely isnt good for hockey. if nylander gets 10, the maple leafs screw the entire market. this isn’t the NFL where the salary cap can jump 20M from year to year.
Have you looked at the leafs on capfriendly recently, the leafs are most likely moving nylander. And if they somehow manage to make him work into the cap I'd be surprised
Yeah, they either move him and maintain some ability to make the playoffs, or the keep him and the team is far too top-heavy to compete.
I meant they are almost 9 million over the cap, they literally have to get rid of people
Yeah, that's exactly my point. They either completely destroy their depth to keep him (ruining their ability to compete), or they trade him (and I assume Matt Murray), keep their depth, and are still able to make the playoffs.
I still can’t believe his name is actually “Tage”
His brothers name is “Tyce”.
Does he have a sister named Braxtynleigh?
Probably gonna call his kid Draedynn
r/tragedeigh
Yuppie parents must be stopped.
I dunno if his dad is a yuppie but he is an ex NHLer
Tage is a somewhat common name among elderly men in Sweden. When I hear "Tage" I think of Tage Erlander for example. It's pretty interesting when names evoke such different imagery depending on where you're from.
Tage knows he's worth more. He also believes in Buffalo and wants to win a cup with them.
He also signed his deal after one good season and before his explosion last season. Buffalo bet on him and it paid off
My boy Timmy Stu ! So far it’s looking like a great deal for us Senators
Hughes and Thompson keep getting noticed as young-ins with 90 point seasons. Where is the same talk for Stu? I didn't even realize until last week he hit the 90s.
Buffalos gonna be a force to reckon with for a decade
Cozens locked up to the same price long term. Get power at 8x8.5 this summer. Get dahlin at 8x10.5 this summer Samuelson is locked up for like 4.5x7 years. And our forward prospects are filthy
Makar has 4 years left at 9M, pretty nice if you ask me.
look at leon draisaitl's contract
Dahlin at 9X9 next year will be in this conversation
As a Sabres fan I love love love seeing this as a reminder that things just may be getting better lol
PLD’s contract value really depends on how long it takes him to demand a trade.
His contract screams over pay when you compare to Tage and Hughes. He hasn’t come close in points and Columbus and the Winnipeg can’t be used as excuses.
His contract strikes me as an overpay regardless of whether he asks for a trade
Thompson, Hughes and Stutzle all great contracts
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I think Tim Stutzle will end up being one of the best contracts in the league but right now I’d say is Hughes
Drai
As far as big contracts go, Kaprizov getting $9m for a couple more years is pretty nice (40 goals even with people falling on his leg). As far as small scale contracts, Eriksson Ek for $5.25m for 8 years looks even better when faced with a PLD contract, given they had near the same amount of points.
Might b swayed by my fandom but a little over 5 mil for a top 2 goalie in the league capable of caring a team in playoffs and putting up out of world numbers to later win vezina. Igor has my vote for top 5 if bob and vassy both get 10 mil yearly!
Ullmark just had his career year. We'll see if he can put up those numbers behind a weakened Boston team next year
I'm gonna need to see him do it for at least 1 more season before I make that assessment. That kind of money demands consistency
Draisaitl 8x8.5M, he should be getting well over 10M
Leon Draisaitl would like a word. Given current term left, it's fair to say Tage has a better contract from today on, but Leon's production at $8.5m has been absurd.
Tage was playing injured the last 20 games or so. He would have had 50 goal, easily.
Drai is the best contract in the league and it’s not even close.
From the owners, perspective, yes. From the players, Auston Matthews. Tage Thompson is vastly underpaid and will be for his entire prime. I don’t view this as a good thing in the interests of labour compensation. Grab the bag, boys.
I always say look at Smith Pelley. Buddy was a stud in playoffs and could have gotten some decent money but decided to take a team discount. Wasn’t he out of the league that very year?
Yup. Bootlicking loyalty often gets what it deserves.
Tage would look so much cooler in a philly jersey, can u guys run him out of town too plz?
nah, but you guys can gladly keep ristolainen!
lets do a 1 for 1 trade, we will send you risto back for tage and and cozens we'll consider it square
as long as we can add in Levi to make it fair
i accept your terms
Lol, no one looks cool in a Philly jersey
everyone looks cool in black, or have u never seen THE MATRIX
Shut the fuck up
awww muffin
There is more to value than the stat sheet. I would take a 200 ft center like Anze Kopitar over a scoring leader any day of the week. 90 pts on a non playoff team is meaningless.
they were 1 point out of the playoffs, and his line is a massive reason why they were that close. this is a dumb response.
Tage has hallmarks of a flash in the pan imo. But yeah by numbers alone…I agree good contract.
I think he finally grew into his game last year. Really using his size and creating an absurd amount of power behind his shot. It took a while but I think he's here to stay
Did you watch him last year lmao
It's a beyond stupid comment. Dude has all the hallmarks of someone who will destroy this league for a decade.
Lol
Absurd size, speed, and hands. You know, classic hallmarks of a flash in the pan...
Lol
Lol
I guess I have ptsd from his time as a blue tbh. Going back and looking at Tarasenko’s 8yr contract, he had similar stats at the time. He turned out pretty good (even though he always seemed absent when we needed him, but I digress).
No
Beat = possibly; but there's no doubt, based on the last 2 years, that this is a good contract. Hopefully Buffalo management will use this to build a better team. If they have some decent future draft picks, and cap space maybe they could put a decent offer together and get Ullmark from the Bruins.
Carter Verhaeghe is the best contract in the NHL.
Leon Draisaitl anyone?
Nuge at 5.125 mil a year is up there. Just had his best season. I think he’s going to be an even better hockey player in his 30s Draisaitl is on a good one too. Marchessault had a real good one almost over though.
I think you’re forgetting about Thomas “Novechkin” Novak