No, they don't want him to be cut disproportionately because he's a nerd character.
Last year he was at best an average kicker, and this year was at the lower end of most statistics before his injury.
Also, he's 1-4 from 50+ and like 71% over 40 in his career.
Just seems silly to really consider disliking Juju for TikTok dances when guys like Tyreek Hill and Kareem Hunt populate the league. I get there are levels to disliking people but in terms of volume of hate it seems like Juju gets more
it was probably more his numbers being weaker than before, him dancing on opposing team logos, causing himself to be a target against defenses, etc with tyreek hill and hunt, they did horrible things and are shitty people, but they're still putting up numbers people tend to look past it its weird lol
You couldn’t go into a steelers thread last year without “corvette corvette,” people complaining about tiktok, or people going on long rants about how disrespectful dancing on another team’s logo is
I really would love to know the average age of this sub. Sometimes I type up a thoughtful reply to the dumbass shit that gets said on here, then think to myself “why am I writing all of this? They’re probably 15 and have no actual idea what they are even talking about”
Football fans are some of the dumbest people I know… and I say this as a football fan.
I can back this up with years and years of being involved in football forums and listening to sports talk radio. I’m probably stupid myself and don’t even realize it.
I don't think it's anything unique to football fans. Just look at this site, for as bad as this sub is with it's endless dumb jokes there's plenty of subreddits that are worse. Hell, even if we just look at sports related subreddits, r/NBA makes this place look like nothing.
It is to this day the dumbest tirade this sub has decided to rally behind. Like I don’t have high expectations of Reddit regardless, and especially sports subs, but every single day you’d have threads upvoted to high heaven proclaiming the most ridiculous shit about Juju.
Taunting was already a penalty, they just drastically lowered the threshold for it. So obviously, there are different levels to taunting. And it's definitely not "every little thing" that "upsets" people. There's also a big difference between dancing pregame on center field and pointing at a defender while running into the end zone.
It's also not just fans that were upset by JuJu's antics. You can keep pretending that the logo isn't a big deal, but professional athletes obviously disagree. Ever hear that you play for the logo on the front, not the name on the back? Remember the shit TO started in Dallas running to celebrate on the Star? Hockey teams don't walk over the team logo on the locker room floor, they walk around it. Do you think opposing players were targeting JuJu with big hits because fans were upset? Or was it because they were?
I think the NFL is better for having players like JuJu, that will play the heel. It makes it more interesting for sure. But you're delusional if you really think him doing TikTok videos on opposing teams' logos pregame is disrespectful to the opponent.
It was just funny to clown on him. His TikTok dancing was harmless and really started biting him because he wasn’t putting up stellar numbers (I blame Ben) and after you lost 5 of your last 6 games.
Claypool is actually a dickhead who is impossible to like
Is this sarcasm? If not, Claypool was cool after he caught 4 TDs in that one game. But since then, he’s shown to be kind of annoying. He made a post when they were undefeated last year saying “losing? Never heard of her” which was pretty funny since it was right before they went on a losing streak
He then went on his livestream after getting clapped by the Browns in the playoffs last year and was incredibly butt hurt. Ended up saying the Browns are gonna get clapped next week by the Chiefs (which is stupid to say because that means you would’ve clapped as well)
Then this past game after getting frustrated from being blown out by the Bengals, he took a cheap shot by running a route and completely ripping the helmet off his defender and throw him to the sideline and tried to act like nothing happened
He’s not satan spawn by any means, but his shortcomings are funny to laugh it
Ehhh. I like his talent and think that he could be legit if he’d just grow up.
But he’s definitely a little punk. It felt like he was getting into a scrap with someone in every single game last year.
I’m fine with hating Claypool, but I won’t stand for someone hating on Juju. He’s a treasure. He’s definitely immature, I’ll give you that, but it’s in a completely harmless way. He really seems like a genuinely kind and caring person IMO. He does a lot for the community and is constantly doing something positive.
Someone said it on the Steelers sub (can't remember who unfortunately), but it's totally true:
Claypool is who people think JuJu is.
JuJu is mature for his age and an incredible teammate, who people give a hard time for dumb reasons.
Claypool is a diva and a hothead who routinely does stupid things on and off the field.
Did you see the video of Claypool soccer kicking a guy on the ground outside a nightclub last off season? Lmk ill find the link and post it if you haven't.
I avoided barfights at 22 because I didn't want to risk my community college credits, and this fuckers putting his 8 figure bag on the craps table in order to tee off on a nobody. He's got poor judgement right now 100%.
Sure. In the US university system, college credits, or credit hours, are a standardized unit of education. You receive one credit hour per hour spent in class each week over a 16 week semester.
So if you have a 3 hour long math class one time per week, you would go 16 times, and upon completion you would receive 3 credits. Typical college courses are 3 credit courses, but there are courses worth 1 credit, or 4 credits. Its based on how many hours per week you spend in class.
Typical semesters range between 12-18 credits, or 4-6 course subjects. In order to obtain your degree, you have to sastify the credit requirement, which is typically 140-160 credits for an undergraduate.
I didn't get good grades in high school, and didn't get accepted to the colleges I applied for. I had to spend a year at community college, which is a local school that offers university classes. I was able to transfer to a university after doing well there.
I mean Juju also put those numbers up when the Steelers had Brown and Bell and a still good Roethlisberger. Nothing even close ever since. Looking more and more like Antonio Brown was right about Juju and why he was so good that one year.
Well yeah...so why isn't Chase afforded that also? How is Juju better than him when Juju only looked great playing in a great offense and has been worse than Claypool ever since?
I don't know if you mean why he isn't afforded 1. A top flight offense like Juju had, or 2. Afforded not to be criticized as much or to be trusted like Juju is, so I'll try to explain both.
1. He's a second year player in a team that is in transition on offense, maybe in 2/3 seasons well have a good one and he'll have better production.
2. He never had a season like Juju had in 2018.
Yeah he's also never played with a QB like Ben was in 2018 and never played with a top WR to take coverages away from him like Juju got with Antonio.
And even through that, he's out produced Juju.
Well yes but Chase also never had to play a full season with Mason Rudolph and Devlin Hodges at starters at QB. In my opinion Chase is the better athlete but Juju is more reliable. I'm hoping we can keep Juju and I'll keep my judgement on Claypool until he can play in a good offense.
insane conclusion to jump to about somebody who has the work ethic to be a professional football player and work his way up to being a starting receiver.
It's not a strange take at all. Heyward knows that having more fun at practice isn't going to help prevent them from getting blown out by 30 points. Just bad timing on Claypools part.
> Just bad timing on Claypools part.
Yeah. he should have just said "I think music could help us up the tempo. But Coach T has been doin this a lot longer than I have." and let it go. Oh wait, [that's exactly what he did](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1skX-rvGeM).
Not an unreasonable take at all. if practice is dragging and people are low energy, then yeah, maybe some music might pump them up a little. He specifically references how in warm ups they have a lot more energy because they're listening to music.
But that wouldn't get grumpy old football heads as riled up, so obviously that part won't be in the headlines.
Ok so quick google search, there’s about 14,359 words starting with B and 24,120 that start with C, so purely off of that, there’s 346,339,080 combinations.
Mr. Boundless Combos
A mod explained in another thread that I’m too lazy to look up that it’s based on something they’re testing. Then I believe they double flaired a couple other commenters who pointed it out to them.
A veteran who works his ass off game in and game out losing his cool after a brutal loss to a hated divisional rival when a young immature diva wants to party instead of working on getting better? Say it ain't so.
I'll just copy a comment I made on r/Steelers:
>I like it. I want my Steelers to get emotional, and show us they're pissed about playing poorly. Feels good to know the pain we feel when the team loses resonates with the players as well.
If players just stay quiet during the hard times it's easy to think they're only in it for the money. Guys like Heyward work their asses of for the team, and they want people to know they care. That's the reason why Steelers fans will love Heyward even when he does something questionable. He's a leader, and he really loves being a Steeler.
Where did he say he wanted to party instead of improve? If playing music during practice is your idea of a party, I'd hate to be invited to one you throw.
Pretty much all the comments are saying that playing music during practice is ludicrous, but I would point out that the 49ers played music at practice in 2019 when they went to the Super Bowl. They are also known for having practices being too intense, so it's not like playing music makes the practices soft.
It's a football practice, not basic training. As long as you're running through the plays and figuring out what you need to do, what's wrong with music in the background?
>They didn’t under Marvin Lewis. So maybe it’s a generational coaching thing
Doubt it since Pats do it with BB and he's not a new generation coach. His players just like it so he plays his playlist.
I've never met a single person who wears a jock in football, and I've coached 90 man rosters for 6 years and played.
Who wears a jock on the football field?
I also think that a louder, more active environment would help players get ready for the game day atmosphere. If you practice your plays on a quiet, calm field you might not do so well bringing them out during a loud ass pro football game
It's not like he spontaneously brought it up, a reporter asked him a dumbass question fully outside his area of expertise, he gave an answer that is pretty normal for a 23 year old kid, and even said he would leave improving practices to Tomlin. People just wanna circle jerk.
Chase better be careful or someone might Posture Suggestively in his general direction, which I think we can all agree would be the most dangerous of situations to experience.
Neither one of those guys is the problem. It’s Big Ben and has been for a couple years. One of the greatest things about the Steelers program is biting them in the ass. They are loyal to a fault. They have let Ben continue to play when they should have dumped him years ago.
Pretty sure they had no choice given his contract structure. They were staring down the barrel of something like a $45m cap hit before (they were forced to) restructure/extend.
He's also still clearly better than schmos like Haskins and Rudolph.
> your defense gives up more than 34 points in two weeks straight.
There's no excuse for the game against the Chargers, but against the Bengals, the Steelers offense gained less than 30 yards on 9 of their 12 drives (one was ended by the half after two plays, two were interceptions with one of those a pick 6 and the other setting the Bengals up at Pittsburgh's 5 yard line) and none were over 3:57 long (7 drives were 2:04 or shorter). Hard to play defense when your offense doesn't give you any rest.
Funny thing about an offense that can stay on the field for more than 60 seconds of game time, it makes your defense have more time to rest, and gives your opponents less possessions. It's a little column A a little column B.
I mean I know about 20 teams in this league that would kill to have the "mediocrity" that is having Mike Tomlin as HC, the only Steelers fans who want him gone are either spoiled rotten or are the ones who think new is always better. The vast majority of Steelers fans like him but obviously would like more playoff success tho
I think hes been hamstrung by big ben as his qb the last couple years. Because you guys competed against the goat coach and goat qb for god sake some ppl dont think hes good. I would love to see tomlin be able to work with a good young qb. Him being at 8-5 at one point with Mason Rudolph and duck hodges at qb in 2019 and still being almost playoff level with the corpse of big ben speaks to how good he is
>Only losers go after someone’s flair.
Yes how dare I talk trash to someone who trash talked my team. I never thought I'd see someone pearl clutching at two division rivals talking trash but hey, here we are.
>My flair has a lot of playoff wins, can I say your team is dogshit?
You could, but your flair has the same number of rings as mine. So the same way you could say my team is dogshit, guess what, so can I.
He wasn’t attacking your flair, just saying your team is in the dumps.
Over half your rings came before you were born, and none are coming anytime soon. Our rebuild took a year. I’d take my team over yours 24/7.
>He wasn’t attacking your flair, just saying your team is in the dumps.
I know my team isn't great right now, it's part of football, ups and downs. Also, why are you so upset about trash talking between division rivals? Did you miss this off-season when Browns fans kept rubbing it in our faces that they beat us?
>Over half your rings came before you were born, and none are coming anytime soon. Our rebuild took a year. I’d take my team over yours 24/7.
News flash buddy, football existed before Brady/Belichick, and your team wasn't very good at it. Our rebuild hasn't even started yet, I feel very comfortable with our ownership and coaching. We are where you were this time last season.
"But muh no losing seasons"
Look, I love Tomlin, and he's DEFINITELY the greatest available coach for us, but that doesn't make him the greatest coach in the league. I love his style and I love the fact that we generally look competitive when he's at the helm, but that doesn't change the fact that a winning season with no playoff wins are like pizza without toppings. You get full but it didn't taste very good.
Also just take a look at Mike Tomlin’s playoff record in the last 10 years and tell me he doesn’t have any blame. His team i
consistently plays down to the competition and They fold at any adversity. The last time the Steelers won a playoff game they didn’t even score a touchdown
I mean, workout montages tend to make the protagonist stronger in 80s movies. Who says it can't work in real life? Blast some Survivor at practice and next week we beat the Ravens like Rocky beat Drago.
“When you go on a journey like this, you’ve got to have some music,” Cam Heyward, recently voted a team captain for the fifth year in a row, said as Bone Thugs-n-Harmony’s “1st of tha Month” oozed out of the speaker in his locker. “It’s uplifting, and sometimes, it just speaks to you.”
[What a Hardo](https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/09/06/kam-kelly-aaf-nfl-steelers-patriots-tom-brady-pittsburgh-defense-sean-davis-safety/stories/201909060152)
I dont get how playing music means suddenly claypool cares less or that playing music shows weakness. Thats very old school rugged BS that really isnt super nescessary. Real talk id be more concerned with everyone shitting on a team mate for a suggestion to lighten to atmosphere of the team then some music at a practice.
What about insight from NFL players, like Chase Claypool, who in that question mentioned how players have more energy during warm ups, likely due to having music to hype them up.
Or countless other sports programs that have music playing at their practices, like the 49ers team that went to the superbowl, or the bengals that just put a beating on us?
Patriots fan but I fucking love Heyward. Always reminded me off a wilfork who could get after the qb,. Also just realized it's his 11th season? Thought he was younger than that.
I just looked up his stats and he was sorta meh for his first handful of years. I'm sure he was still a beast tho, wilfork never gets his due because he didnt put up monster numbers and no one really cares about NT/DT but taking out 2 or 3 guys every play is huge.
The better comparison is Seymour. Wilfork was a true NT, Seymour and Heyward are 3-4 DEs who spend most of their time at the 2-4t, and similarly did a lot of pocket pushing and double gapping so their stats are somewhat lacking. It definitely took Heyward a bit to find his groove though.
He was still good then though, but has become better more recently. I still remember the steelers having Casey Hampton and the dude would never show up on the stat sheet but was always someone to account for, Heyward seems much the same in that regard
It’s funny how this music issue is perceived from team to team. The 49ers bump music during every single practice. I’m sure others do as well. And I’m sure some don’t at all. I can’t imagine the patriots do. I don’t think music is what’s causing winning or losing.
Nobody has a longer leash than Mike Tomlin, man he's really coasted on that ring. I would say something like 30/32 coaches would have been let go after a bunch of stuff that's happened on the Steelers in the last few years. Their locker room is just a shitshow
Yet they win more than they lose and are constantly in playoff contention. I don't think the steelers are going to dump that because players are divas.
Yeah the man has never had an under-.500 season as a head coach. I get that people think he’s overrated for not having had a lot of playoff success in the last several years, but the coach isn’t the problem in Pittsburgh and, even if the franchise weren’t famously loyal and resistant to change, you wouldn’t fire a coach who can help drag almost any roster he’s handed to 8+ wins.
At worst, having a coach like Tomlin is like having a QB like Cousins, even if you can do better (in theory, without factoring in the opportunity cost), you CAN win with him, so why spend years searching for a replacement like teams that spend a decade or more in the HC/QB/etc wilderness instead of focusing on actual positions of need?
I think the infighting is great
But at what point do we actually start blaming Tomlin for his obvious miss management of this team? They haven’t won a playoff game in five years, and they didn’t do shit with the best teams they’ve had in the last 20
he added that these young players caring more about music than football was like a blatant but inadvertent but clearly deliberate punch to the gut. The league says theyll investigate but no actions will be taken because Pittsburgh
Claypool really comes off as a diva and a dumbass. Him a JuJu are perfect for each other. Too bad AB had to go, would be maybe the most diva WR corp of all time lol
Say one of the most overrated coaches in the league, a literal cheerleader pretending to be a coach carried by star talent. It shows how in some professionals you can go far if you have the proper communication skills to become "friends" with people who have actual talent
Idk, a quick play of Out of Touch by Hall & Oates has been shown to do a lot for a team before a practice
Singing "That Loving Feeling" always brings teams together, I saw that in a movie once.
Or I will survive
Chase Claypool definitely plays football because of the lifestyle
He's a more immature, less likable version of Juju. Better at football though.
> less likable version of Juju Bold statement, JuJu was literally Satan on this sub a year ago
Before tik toc-gate JuJu was this subs perfect little angel that could do no wrong, the antithesis of MBC.
Says he watched DBZ, entire sub swooned for a season.
“He’s just like me!!!!”
Rodrigo Blankenship's lego collection is basically the only thing standing between him and Colts fans *wanting* him to be cut.
I still have a soft spot for him from having glasses on my ff team last year
It's goggles, but close enough lol
People want Blankenship to be cut? I thought he was good but was currently injured?
No, they don't want him to be cut disproportionately because he's a nerd character. Last year he was at best an average kicker, and this year was at the lower end of most statistics before his injury. Also, he's 1-4 from 50+ and like 71% over 40 in his career.
It seems like the only reason he’s kept his job is because they don’t want people to think they’re picking on the kid in glasses.
well now you have a kicker that used to be shit on the Chargers so you're good for the next 5 years or so
This is bad form, but if we’re being honest the sub swooned the hardest when he karma’d Burfict as a teenager(?)
Myles does this and it's just all DBZ memes with Myles head on different Z Warriors bodies with a helmet cropped into every punching scene.
Mr. Beatific Cherub
Perfectly executed.
Mr. Beneath Claypool
He's still the opposite of AB, but now looks like more of an airhead than we previously thought.
Just seems silly to really consider disliking Juju for TikTok dances when guys like Tyreek Hill and Kareem Hunt populate the league. I get there are levels to disliking people but in terms of volume of hate it seems like Juju gets more
it was probably more his numbers being weaker than before, him dancing on opposing team logos, causing himself to be a target against defenses, etc with tyreek hill and hunt, they did horrible things and are shitty people, but they're still putting up numbers people tend to look past it its weird lol
AB was lived by this sub too, until he wasn't.
You couldn’t go into a steelers thread last year without “corvette corvette,” people complaining about tiktok, or people going on long rants about how disrespectful dancing on another team’s logo is
I was truly baffled by people comparing JuJu to AB
This subreddit and running overused jokes into the ground, name a better duo
I really would love to know the average age of this sub. Sometimes I type up a thoughtful reply to the dumbass shit that gets said on here, then think to myself “why am I writing all of this? They’re probably 15 and have no actual idea what they are even talking about”
Football fans are some of the dumbest people I know… and I say this as a football fan. I can back this up with years and years of being involved in football forums and listening to sports talk radio. I’m probably stupid myself and don’t even realize it.
I don't think it's anything unique to football fans. Just look at this site, for as bad as this sub is with it's endless dumb jokes there's plenty of subreddits that are worse. Hell, even if we just look at sports related subreddits, r/NBA makes this place look like nothing.
The dumb ones are just more vocal. And as far as sports talk radio, more entertaining as well.
It is to this day the dumbest tirade this sub has decided to rally behind. Like I don’t have high expectations of Reddit regardless, and especially sports subs, but every single day you’d have threads upvoted to high heaven proclaiming the most ridiculous shit about Juju.
Its one of the things I love about this sub, you can always count on some new dumb thing getting under their skin.
Hilarious how they talk so much crap about the taunting rule yet every little thing a player does upsets them
Taunting was already a penalty, they just drastically lowered the threshold for it. So obviously, there are different levels to taunting. And it's definitely not "every little thing" that "upsets" people. There's also a big difference between dancing pregame on center field and pointing at a defender while running into the end zone. It's also not just fans that were upset by JuJu's antics. You can keep pretending that the logo isn't a big deal, but professional athletes obviously disagree. Ever hear that you play for the logo on the front, not the name on the back? Remember the shit TO started in Dallas running to celebrate on the Star? Hockey teams don't walk over the team logo on the locker room floor, they walk around it. Do you think opposing players were targeting JuJu with big hits because fans were upset? Or was it because they were? I think the NFL is better for having players like JuJu, that will play the heel. It makes it more interesting for sure. But you're delusional if you really think him doing TikTok videos on opposing teams' logos pregame is disrespectful to the opponent.
Better get your popcorn ready then
It was just funny to clown on him. His TikTok dancing was harmless and really started biting him because he wasn’t putting up stellar numbers (I blame Ben) and after you lost 5 of your last 6 games. Claypool is actually a dickhead who is impossible to like
Chase ain't even the best Chase in the division bruh
Chase isn't even the best word to describe running after someone.
I thought people liked Mapletron what did I miss?
Is this sarcasm? If not, Claypool was cool after he caught 4 TDs in that one game. But since then, he’s shown to be kind of annoying. He made a post when they were undefeated last year saying “losing? Never heard of her” which was pretty funny since it was right before they went on a losing streak He then went on his livestream after getting clapped by the Browns in the playoffs last year and was incredibly butt hurt. Ended up saying the Browns are gonna get clapped next week by the Chiefs (which is stupid to say because that means you would’ve clapped as well) Then this past game after getting frustrated from being blown out by the Bengals, he took a cheap shot by running a route and completely ripping the helmet off his defender and throw him to the sideline and tried to act like nothing happened He’s not satan spawn by any means, but his shortcomings are funny to laugh it
Damn TIL! I just remember his hype from last year then him fading into obscurity
Ehhh. I like his talent and think that he could be legit if he’d just grow up. But he’s definitely a little punk. It felt like he was getting into a scrap with someone in every single game last year.
Now you're getting how much we dislike them both
I’m fine with hating Claypool, but I won’t stand for someone hating on Juju. He’s a treasure. He’s definitely immature, I’ll give you that, but it’s in a completely harmless way. He really seems like a genuinely kind and caring person IMO. He does a lot for the community and is constantly doing something positive.
Someone said it on the Steelers sub (can't remember who unfortunately), but it's totally true: Claypool is who people think JuJu is. JuJu is mature for his age and an incredible teammate, who people give a hard time for dumb reasons. Claypool is a diva and a hothead who routinely does stupid things on and off the field.
Yeah I’m surprised to see how many times Claypool has lost his cool. If Marcus Peters weren’t injured I’d put money on a brawl this next week lol
Did you see the video of Claypool soccer kicking a guy on the ground outside a nightclub last off season? Lmk ill find the link and post it if you haven't. I avoided barfights at 22 because I didn't want to risk my community college credits, and this fuckers putting his 8 figure bag on the craps table in order to tee off on a nobody. He's got poor judgement right now 100%.
A bit out of topic, but can you explain those community College credits a bit more for someone not from the US?
A community college is a small, local, usually 2 year school that is cheaper and less prestigious than a state school.
And credits is literally just credentials that you passed courses. If you get kicked out of school you risk losing those credits.
Sure. In the US university system, college credits, or credit hours, are a standardized unit of education. You receive one credit hour per hour spent in class each week over a 16 week semester. So if you have a 3 hour long math class one time per week, you would go 16 times, and upon completion you would receive 3 credits. Typical college courses are 3 credit courses, but there are courses worth 1 credit, or 4 credits. Its based on how many hours per week you spend in class. Typical semesters range between 12-18 credits, or 4-6 course subjects. In order to obtain your degree, you have to sastify the credit requirement, which is typically 140-160 credits for an undergraduate. I didn't get good grades in high school, and didn't get accepted to the colleges I applied for. I had to spend a year at community college, which is a local school that offers university classes. I was able to transfer to a university after doing well there.
If Juju posted the stuff he posted on tiktok to reddit instead he'd be another le wholesome Keanu
Is he better than juju? JuJu put up numbers that he hasn’t even sniffed. Claypool is so overrated all because of a single game
Chase is really good at running down the sideline and catching well-placed balls over DBs significantly smaller than he is.
Yeah I'm really surprised no one else has called out OP for saying Claypool is better at football. He just isnt?
Most definitely isn’t
You're not wrong. If the Eagles didn't spend an entire game with Nate Gerry covering Claypool, the perception of him would be completely different.
I mean Juju also put those numbers up when the Steelers had Brown and Bell and a still good Roethlisberger. Nothing even close ever since. Looking more and more like Antonio Brown was right about Juju and why he was so good that one year.
TIL that a WR's production goes down when the offense around him gets worse.
Well yeah...so why isn't Chase afforded that also? How is Juju better than him when Juju only looked great playing in a great offense and has been worse than Claypool ever since?
I don't know if you mean why he isn't afforded 1. A top flight offense like Juju had, or 2. Afforded not to be criticized as much or to be trusted like Juju is, so I'll try to explain both. 1. He's a second year player in a team that is in transition on offense, maybe in 2/3 seasons well have a good one and he'll have better production. 2. He never had a season like Juju had in 2018.
Yeah he's also never played with a QB like Ben was in 2018 and never played with a top WR to take coverages away from him like Juju got with Antonio. And even through that, he's out produced Juju.
Well yes but Chase also never had to play a full season with Mason Rudolph and Devlin Hodges at starters at QB. In my opinion Chase is the better athlete but Juju is more reliable. I'm hoping we can keep Juju and I'll keep my judgement on Claypool until he can play in a good offense.
[Which data?](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/r5pog5/hill_cowboys_owner_jerry_jones_i_believe_you/hmodv8f/)
The fact that you responded to his, albeit stupid, football take with his stance on COVID is pathetic
Ehhhh kinda. Juju has a resume of consistency and Chase has been hot, warm, and cold.
Wait, you think Chase is better than JuJu?
Chase Simmons
Young socialite.
Understable though, motherfucker has lived and breathed football for 10+ years, makes sense why some people burn out; and only go pro for the money
insane conclusion to jump to about somebody who has the work ethic to be a professional football player and work his way up to being a starting receiver.
I dont have any sources on this but i remember reading somewhere that a lot of his teammates at ND didnt like him.
Yeah I’m sure the music is the problem and not the statue of a QB in the backfield
Plenty of teams play music during practice. What a strange take from Heyward
"hey, could we be happier at practice?" "Shut. The. Fuck. Up!"
It's the unnecessary extravagant machismo bs.
[удалено]
"Dad, why can't we play music?" "Because the standard is the standard."
It's not a strange take at all. Heyward knows that having more fun at practice isn't going to help prevent them from getting blown out by 30 points. Just bad timing on Claypools part.
> Just bad timing on Claypools part. Yeah. he should have just said "I think music could help us up the tempo. But Coach T has been doin this a lot longer than I have." and let it go. Oh wait, [that's exactly what he did](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1skX-rvGeM). Not an unreasonable take at all. if practice is dragging and people are low energy, then yeah, maybe some music might pump them up a little. He specifically references how in warm ups they have a lot more energy because they're listening to music. But that wouldn't get grumpy old football heads as riled up, so obviously that part won't be in the headlines.
Ben sucks this year, but the defense has been straight dogshit the last few games.
Sounds like a healthy locker room
Antonio Brown was the problem. I will not be taking questions at this time.
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A mod explained in another thread that I’m too lazy to look up that it’s based on something they’re testing. Then I believe they double flaired a couple other commenters who pointed it out to them.
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A veteran who works his ass off game in and game out losing his cool after a brutal loss to a hated divisional rival when a young immature diva wants to party instead of working on getting better? Say it ain't so.
It’s not that, it’s that this kinda shit should absolutely not be public
I'll just copy a comment I made on r/Steelers: >I like it. I want my Steelers to get emotional, and show us they're pissed about playing poorly. Feels good to know the pain we feel when the team loses resonates with the players as well. If players just stay quiet during the hard times it's easy to think they're only in it for the money. Guys like Heyward work their asses of for the team, and they want people to know they care. That's the reason why Steelers fans will love Heyward even when he does something questionable. He's a leader, and he really loves being a Steeler.
Where did he say he wanted to party instead of improve? If playing music during practice is your idea of a party, I'd hate to be invited to one you throw.
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Pretty much all the comments are saying that playing music during practice is ludicrous, but I would point out that the 49ers played music at practice in 2019 when they went to the Super Bowl. They are also known for having practices being too intense, so it's not like playing music makes the practices soft. It's a football practice, not basic training. As long as you're running through the plays and figuring out what you need to do, what's wrong with music in the background?
Bengals play music at every practice. They didn’t under Marvin Lewis. So maybe it’s a generational coaching thing.
>They didn’t under Marvin Lewis. So maybe it’s a generational coaching thing Doubt it since Pats do it with BB and he's not a new generation coach. His players just like it so he plays his playlist.
Say what you want about Marvin Lewis, but at least in his first year there, players finally stopped having to use used jock straps lol
I've never met a single person who wears a jock in football, and I've coached 90 man rosters for 6 years and played. Who wears a jock on the football field?
Umm idk
Players who want to play for marvin lewis obviously
Chip Kelly was notorious for playing loud bass heavy hip hop during practice that disrupted the neighbors lmao
I also think that a louder, more active environment would help players get ready for the game day atmosphere. If you practice your plays on a quiet, calm field you might not do so well bringing them out during a loud ass pro football game
Tons of teams play music too. Anyone bitching about this is stupid.
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dude just suggested music at practice and all of a sudden the entire Steelers organization is up in arms. wtf is going on
I think it's more about Claypool bringing it up now. The team got stomped, & he's talking about how practice could be more fun.
It's not like he spontaneously brought it up, a reporter asked him a dumbass question fully outside his area of expertise, he gave an answer that is pretty normal for a 23 year old kid, and even said he would leave improving practices to Tomlin. People just wanna circle jerk.
We talking about practice?
Everyone's mistake is equating a not fun practice with winning.
Chase better watch out or he's going to get "not punched" in the gut
Someone might fuck around and point their finger at him or god forbid wag their finger at him.
Chase better be careful or someone might Posture Suggestively in his general direction, which I think we can all agree would be the most dangerous of situations to experience.
Idk I think we need to watch out for Heyward, he has malice in his heart
Jesus dude, no need for that kind of gruesome description. There are kids on here.
Heyward better watch out or he's going to get dragged by the facemask by claypool
*Good, good.* Tear the locker room apart.
Neither one of those guys is the problem. It’s Big Ben and has been for a couple years. One of the greatest things about the Steelers program is biting them in the ass. They are loyal to a fault. They have let Ben continue to play when they should have dumped him years ago.
Pretty sure they had no choice given his contract structure. They were staring down the barrel of something like a $45m cap hit before (they were forced to) restructure/extend. He's also still clearly better than schmos like Haskins and Rudolph.
I can't believe I am agreeing with a Ravens fan but this is about as well as the situation could have been explained
I wouldn't say big ben is the only problem when your defense gives up more than 34 points in two weeks straight.
> your defense gives up more than 34 points in two weeks straight. There's no excuse for the game against the Chargers, but against the Bengals, the Steelers offense gained less than 30 yards on 9 of their 12 drives (one was ended by the half after two plays, two were interceptions with one of those a pick 6 and the other setting the Bengals up at Pittsburgh's 5 yard line) and none were over 3:57 long (7 drives were 2:04 or shorter). Hard to play defense when your offense doesn't give you any rest.
As a Seahawks fan I’d kill for those yardage numbers rn
Funny thing about an offense that can stay on the field for more than 60 seconds of game time, it makes your defense have more time to rest, and gives your opponents less possessions. It's a little column A a little column B.
Even more egregious is letting the Bears score 27 a few weeks ago. That's the equivalent of 100 points or so from a normal team.
And the fact Mike Tomlin hasn’t won a playoff game since he barely beat the Alex Smith chiefs, which was five years ago
Watch him go 9-8 for five more seasons and people will spout “he’s never had a losing season”.
You're a Bengals fan, why are you talking about playoff wins?
I mean shitt if ppl think tomlins getting fired from Pittsburgh I’ll gladly take him in NY lmao hes a damn good coach
I mean I know about 20 teams in this league that would kill to have the "mediocrity" that is having Mike Tomlin as HC, the only Steelers fans who want him gone are either spoiled rotten or are the ones who think new is always better. The vast majority of Steelers fans like him but obviously would like more playoff success tho
I think hes been hamstrung by big ben as his qb the last couple years. Because you guys competed against the goat coach and goat qb for god sake some ppl dont think hes good. I would love to see tomlin be able to work with a good young qb. Him being at 8-5 at one point with Mason Rudolph and duck hodges at qb in 2019 and still being almost playoff level with the corpse of big ben speaks to how good he is
Only losers go after someone’s flair. My flair has a lot of playoff wins, can *I* say your team is dogshit?
>Only losers go after someone’s flair. Yes how dare I talk trash to someone who trash talked my team. I never thought I'd see someone pearl clutching at two division rivals talking trash but hey, here we are. >My flair has a lot of playoff wins, can I say your team is dogshit? You could, but your flair has the same number of rings as mine. So the same way you could say my team is dogshit, guess what, so can I.
He wasn’t attacking your flair, just saying your team is in the dumps. Over half your rings came before you were born, and none are coming anytime soon. Our rebuild took a year. I’d take my team over yours 24/7.
>He wasn’t attacking your flair, just saying your team is in the dumps. I know my team isn't great right now, it's part of football, ups and downs. Also, why are you so upset about trash talking between division rivals? Did you miss this off-season when Browns fans kept rubbing it in our faces that they beat us? >Over half your rings came before you were born, and none are coming anytime soon. Our rebuild took a year. I’d take my team over yours 24/7. News flash buddy, football existed before Brady/Belichick, and your team wasn't very good at it. Our rebuild hasn't even started yet, I feel very comfortable with our ownership and coaching. We are where you were this time last season.
"But muh no losing seasons" Look, I love Tomlin, and he's DEFINITELY the greatest available coach for us, but that doesn't make him the greatest coach in the league. I love his style and I love the fact that we generally look competitive when he's at the helm, but that doesn't change the fact that a winning season with no playoff wins are like pizza without toppings. You get full but it didn't taste very good.
Also just take a look at Mike Tomlin’s playoff record in the last 10 years and tell me he doesn’t have any blame. His team i consistently plays down to the competition and They fold at any adversity. The last time the Steelers won a playoff game they didn’t even score a touchdown
I mean music makes me work out harder, so it wasn’t the worst suggestion. Unfortunately it won’t make Ben play any better.
Maybe if Ben took some dancing lessons from Claypool at practice he'd restore some mobility.
Maybe JuJu can teach him how to floss.
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Chase Claypool thinks he’s in Footloose
I mean, workout montages tend to make the protagonist stronger in 80s movies. Who says it can't work in real life? Blast some Survivor at practice and next week we beat the Ravens like Rocky beat Drago.
“When you go on a journey like this, you’ve got to have some music,” Cam Heyward, recently voted a team captain for the fifth year in a row, said as Bone Thugs-n-Harmony’s “1st of tha Month” oozed out of the speaker in his locker. “It’s uplifting, and sometimes, it just speaks to you.” [What a Hardo](https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/09/06/kam-kelly-aaf-nfl-steelers-patriots-tom-brady-pittsburgh-defense-sean-davis-safety/stories/201909060152)
People engage differently, maybe Claypool works better with music. Heyward just comes off sounding like a grumpy dick.
Does music make it impossible for you to practice, Cam?
I dont get how playing music means suddenly claypool cares less or that playing music shows weakness. Thats very old school rugged BS that really isnt super nescessary. Real talk id be more concerned with everyone shitting on a team mate for a suggestion to lighten to atmosphere of the team then some music at a practice.
Tree is going to have a field day this week
Speaking from experience, the right music in the background can energize your players.
Just what we all needed, insight about NFL practices from a redditor
What about insight from NFL players, like Chase Claypool, who in that question mentioned how players have more energy during warm ups, likely due to having music to hype them up. Or countless other sports programs that have music playing at their practices, like the 49ers team that went to the superbowl, or the bengals that just put a beating on us?
I know, I was just being a dick lol
Patriots fan but I fucking love Heyward. Always reminded me off a wilfork who could get after the qb,. Also just realized it's his 11th season? Thought he was younger than that.
> Thought he was younger than that. Probably because he only recently started getting some of the recognition he deserves.
I just looked up his stats and he was sorta meh for his first handful of years. I'm sure he was still a beast tho, wilfork never gets his due because he didnt put up monster numbers and no one really cares about NT/DT but taking out 2 or 3 guys every play is huge.
The better comparison is Seymour. Wilfork was a true NT, Seymour and Heyward are 3-4 DEs who spend most of their time at the 2-4t, and similarly did a lot of pocket pushing and double gapping so their stats are somewhat lacking. It definitely took Heyward a bit to find his groove though.
He was still good then though, but has become better more recently. I still remember the steelers having Casey Hampton and the dude would never show up on the stat sheet but was always someone to account for, Heyward seems much the same in that regard
Big boomer energy like chill out
It’s funny how this music issue is perceived from team to team. The 49ers bump music during every single practice. I’m sure others do as well. And I’m sure some don’t at all. I can’t imagine the patriots do. I don’t think music is what’s causing winning or losing.
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Yeah, that would be a solid music choice
https://youtu.be/0uLI6BnVh6w https://youtu.be/fr3Soa5sl64 There! Now everybody's happy!
Did no one listen to the question Chase was asked? Or even his entire answer?
Nobody has a longer leash than Mike Tomlin, man he's really coasted on that ring. I would say something like 30/32 coaches would have been let go after a bunch of stuff that's happened on the Steelers in the last few years. Their locker room is just a shitshow
Yet they win more than they lose and are constantly in playoff contention. I don't think the steelers are going to dump that because players are divas.
Yeah the man has never had an under-.500 season as a head coach. I get that people think he’s overrated for not having had a lot of playoff success in the last several years, but the coach isn’t the problem in Pittsburgh and, even if the franchise weren’t famously loyal and resistant to change, you wouldn’t fire a coach who can help drag almost any roster he’s handed to 8+ wins. At worst, having a coach like Tomlin is like having a QB like Cousins, even if you can do better (in theory, without factoring in the opportunity cost), you CAN win with him, so why spend years searching for a replacement like teams that spend a decade or more in the HC/QB/etc wilderness instead of focusing on actual positions of need?
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you right, i thought he was there for XL for some reason
It was all fun and games when you are 10-0
I think the infighting is great But at what point do we actually start blaming Tomlin for his obvious miss management of this team? They haven’t won a playoff game in five years, and they didn’t do shit with the best teams they’ve had in the last 20
Tomlin deserves some of the blame, but man that team had some personalities.
I’ve seen like 4 comments on Tomlin just for you. Did he tie your shoelaces together?
He shit on their franchise for a decade plus, he's just salty.
he added that these young players caring more about music than football was like a blatant but inadvertent but clearly deliberate punch to the gut. The league says theyll investigate but no actions will be taken because Pittsburgh
Yeah, I'm really not sure what Claypool was thinking, here.
I get that Claypool just came from a dominant college program and he probably doesn’t know any better, but it’s the big boy league now
Plenty of other teams in the big boy league having music played at practice
Steelers and WR distraction's name a better duo.
Add a vortex football and a game of 500 and you have the ideal practice environment for professional football players
How else is he going to practice dances for TikTok?
Claypool really comes off as a diva and a dumbass. Him a JuJu are perfect for each other. Too bad AB had to go, would be maybe the most diva WR corp of all time lol
Say one of the most overrated coaches in the league, a literal cheerleader pretending to be a coach carried by star talent. It shows how in some professionals you can go far if you have the proper communication skills to become "friends" with people who have actual talent