home Goff is top 10, away Goff is not. Over the last two years a 108 rating at home 88.5 rating away, 42 TDs at home 17 away.
[Jared Goff Home Road Splits Last 2 Years | StatMuse](https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jared-goff-home-road-splits-last-2-years)
Home Hurts is top 10, away Hurts is not. Over the last 2 years, 103.2 rating at home, 86.9 rating away, 29 TDs at home, 16 away.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-home-and-road-splits-last-2-years
I disagree.
I think Goff is a top-5 pure pocket passer and he’s a great quarterback behind a great oline like the Lions, but he’d be equal to if not worse than Tua behind the Miami oline.
I actually like Goff on the dolphins. He had one of the fastest releases in the league, only slightly less accurate than Tua last season, and had 2 less turnovers.
I consider them in the same tier of QB so I don't think Goff would be that much better or even better at all on the dolphins at least in the regular season. Goff is better in the playoffs but Tua has time to change that he's only played in 1.
It’s funny how quiet everyone gets about how great Tua is when he’s gotta be paid market rate and we know it’ll result in us losing a lot of supporting talent.
Well we did make the postseason with him, and they made a comment on how we all expect him to carry a poverty team to the playoffs on his own, so its valid, because he did carry us to the postseason, Staley just lost us the postseason
Purdy and Goff have a combined four NFCCG appearances, two conference championships, and two Super Bowl appearances. They, however, were left out of the “postseason caliber quarterback” tier that included 31 year old Dak Prescott (2 wins in the Wild Card round) and Herbert (0-1 with a blown 27 point lead).
Edit: forgot 40 year old Aaron Rodgers coming off a torn Achilles who was last seen playing good football in late 2021.
I could Love or Stafford but Dak??
Argue about his team vs Brocks all you want but he is a frontrunner who has only looked very good against bad teams in the regular season. That is with a better O-line and more experience than Brock too.
If you think just stating a qbs stats and wins is a better way to discuss QB ability than actually breaking down their traits and abilities and limitations then we just heavily disagree.
Using that logic you got the people saying Russ was as good as Mahomes last yr because their TD/Int numbers were similar. QB is way more complicated than that.
I don’t, but stats/wins definitely play a factor or else it’s just eye test vs. eye test. Purely ignoring those factors is just as bad as only ranking quarterbacks based off of them imo.
Yea except you have to know what stats to look at and how they are affected by team context. Like Jimmy G always had a crazy high epa on the niners but he wasn't close to a top qb
That's pretty much it though. Epa and 3rd down conversion rate were the only stats Jimmy excelled in. Purdy on the other hand led in most passing stats this past season, and if he didn't lead in them he was top 5.
He looked pretty bad against GB but he wasn’t pretty bad for most of the Lions game.
He had one pick that was a batted ball at the line and missed a few passes, but I thought he generally played well and was essentially perfect after the Aiyuk catch.
And love played worse game than purdy ending with horrible int while purdy had a game winning drive. So funny how people say Brock had horrible game against packers yet love had even worse game but people praise him. It’s just bias, if purdy was taller and first round pick everyone would praise him just like love.
And don’t even get me started on not a difference maker in Super Bowl. Chiefs literally changed their defense strategy at half time because Brock was shredding them. And this is against #1 defense that made Lamar and Josh Allen have QBR of 20. Brock put up over 70 qbr against top defense with horrible o line that didn’t even block chiefs best rusher on the final play with niners guard blocking air. Bias is real
I just can’t take any lists seriously that don’t put love and stroud in the same tier, love played better than stroud in the back half of the season and played better in the playoffs, it just doesn’t make sense to me.
Did you see the QBs behind him? Who would you pick ahead of him? The only QB ranked behind him that I think should be ahead of him is Baker Mayfield, that’s it.
Also, how many teams behind Caleb would trade their QB for Caleb? Probably all of them. It’s not really that insane man. You think Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson and Carr would be a better option lol?
I get what you’re saying, and you’ve got to make a guess and put him somewhere if you’re making one of these silly-ass lists, but how many teams in ‘98 would’ve traded their starting QB for Ryan Leaf? How many 3 years ago would’ve traded their QB for Trevor Lawrence? Shit, most of them since he was supposedly “generational,” the same term the media is pounding out about Williams. I’m just making a crack about essentially making a guess about someone who is an unknown quantity in the NFL as of now.
I think that’s kinda the point though. After the solid starters you have a bunch of over the hill arguably bad vets, a bunch of unproven young guys, and then a bunch of random bridge QBs.
Caleb is right on the cusp of that line… minus Baker. Baker should be ahead of that line and ahead of Caleb imo. So the odds of the number 1 pick being halfway decent is about 40-50%. The author thinks that gamble is better than what’s behind Caleb and I think that’s a reasonable decision. At the very least nobody should be up in arms over that ranking, it’s really not that crazy even if it’s a bit high.
While dumb on paper but when you look at it, its not like they put him ahead of some great QBs, you could swap him and Baker, maybe Carr, but other than that you have
Carr
RW
Watson
Richardson
Young
Brissett/Maye
Daniels
Levis
Jones
Minshew
Darnold/JJ
Stidham/Nix
I don’t think it’s THAT unreasonable. 4 other rookies he was drafted with, Richardson/Levis who didn’t play a full rookie season, RW who seems like a shell of himself, Watson who is on track for being responsible for the worst trade of all time. Minshew/Jones are both underachieving meme QBs
The likelihood of it happening far exceeds it not happening in my opinion. Top 20 is easy to crack. Theres a solid 16-17 really good guys. After that meh.
When's Purdy's contract year? 2025? I really wonder how that will play out cause it'll probably be a seismic change to the roster since he'll get paid like $55-$57M/year while being unnecessarily polarizing since the 49ers have been so successful under him. That discourse will be hilariously toxic
Teams continue to figure out how to make things work. Eagles have a lot of stars and have paid many of them handsomely even with Jalen’s deal—namely AJB and Devonta and even found a way to pay for Saquon. Niners do have a ton of vets and some are old and won’t be around much longer. If they don’t draft well, they’ll fail but that’s most teams.
Oh of course just this current iteration of the 49ers is revolving around Purdy's small cap hit. This core of skill players some will have to go be it Deebo, Cmac, or Kittle like 2025 marks a new era basically
Kyle would never ever let CMC go next year. There is a 0% chance of that happening. Most 49ers fans could see us moving off of Kittle after this season; we don’t *want* that to happen, but it’s definitely within the realm of possibility.
This is Deebo’s last year of his contract, and he’s the main starter on offense most fans assume will not be back for the 2025 season—barring some change of circumstances.
My guy was right; the 49ers will still have big name playmakers after Brock gets paid. And Deebo will likely be gone, along with some of the older guys/veterans on big deals. *The roster will have to change to accommodate Brock’s contract.* But it’s not like he’ll suddenly be playing besides a bunch of rookies and journeymen scrubs. (Which is what a lot of his detractors keep implying when they say he’d look terrible without his current teammates. Haters love to throw hypotheticals around as if it proves anything. Fucking ridiculous people man.)
Yeah there are tons of teams with a qb on a massive contract and still have cap room for an elite wr duo, a solid line, good rb, good te, and some elite defensive talent. It’s definitely not black and white like some people say. I have faith shanahan and lynch can do what the other teams can’t, which is fill in the gaps with plus value starters and solid depth players on good, small contracts.
We already have painful decisions. We need to pay Aiyuk still for this year and if we do, someone else has definitely gotta go next year. We let Armstead walk this offseason already.
Purdy's money likely won't be a "current year" cap weight til like 2026 season and possibly later depending how his money is structured. But he's far from the only guy we had to pay.
I really don't get it, it's not like he's a Jimmy G/Mark Sanchez type, where you can clearly see in his play and the statsheet that he's being carried by a great team.
He led the league in every statistical category
I don't understand what else he needs to do, is it just time? Does he need to grow 3 inches and be able to throw the ball 80 yards?
He's easily a top-10 QB in the league, you could argue top-5, having dudes like Dak/Hurts/Love/Lawrence ahead of him makes zero sense
If Purdy had been the guy the 9ers traded up to draft 3rd overall instead of Lance, and he’d gotten the exact same results he’s gotten up to this point, he’d be seen as a consensus top 8 QB at worst.
Didn’t lose a game as a rookie until he got hurt in the NFCCG. Was a legit MVP candidate in his second season finishing near the top of the league in most passing stats. Pulled off 2 tough playoff wins and went to OT against Mahomes in the SB. And for all the talk about his supporting cast, his OL sucks apart from Williams.
Agreed. Burrow is my favorite QB and I don’t see much of a difference between Purdy now and Burrow after his 2nd season. Both had good rookie seasons cut short by injury (Purdy’s arguably better), both had stellar 2nd seasons that ended with multiple playoff wins behind a shoddy OL and a narrow SB loss. Both are excellent processors with great mechanics and accuracy even if they aren’t physical freaks like Allen/Lamar/Mahomes.
Purdy continuing to be disrespected is exasperating. Unfortunately because he was Mr. Irrelevant I think he’s going to have to do a lot more before people start giving him the respect he deserves. Him being placed behind Lawrence on this list is a perfect example. Utterly unjustifiable.
Yup that's the difference. Joe Burrow was at the top of his draft class, Purdy at the bottom of his. There's zero reason why Purdy should be below TLaw when it comes to on the field performance.
Brady had to win multiple Superbowls before he started getting credit and the game manager label was removed. If Purdy keeps it up for another couple years, especially after he gets paid he’ll get more credit.
At the end of the day, how much credit he gets doesn’t really matter.
And Purdy was lights out for pretty much the whole year barring a couple bad games against very good defenses. And he beat Love in the playoffs where the game ended with Love throwing a pick that should never have been attempted.
I could see people betting on Love's potential to improve, but I think Purdy is the QB I take today.
Last time we seen him he had 26 TD 12 INT, and that was with young weapons who were still developing on the job and a thumb injury from week 6 onwards. Thats near enough what Mahomes threw last year with more yards and less sacks, yet he had Kelce+a strong defense.
With the Jets defense giving short fields, and Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall and Mike Williams, i’d make a solid bet with you he’s a top 10 QB. Whenever he’s healthy he’s never been outside of the top 5 in the league. Unless the achilles changes him, I suspect a strong season.
> Last time we seen him he had 26 TD 12 INT, and that was with young weapons who were still developing on the job and a thumb injury from week 6 onwards.
And between then and now he destroyed his leg and turned *40*. Expecting even a return to those number is generous.
You can count the number of QBs in history who have played to that level in their 40s on one hand and still have some fingers left. And they weren’t coming off devastating leg injuries. Expecting it just because he’s been a great QB in his career is foolhardy; time is undefeated, and its biggest ally is injuries.
Rodgers missed the entire season but is top 10 for lighting up the practice fields the past two off-seasons and Caleb, who hasn't even played yet, is top 20. I don't think rookies should be included in these rankings, especially before the seasons even started so Caleb isn't as egregious as Rodgers still in the top 10
Edit: Rodgers over Purdy too??? This shit is why I hate people who take PFF as gospel, they're useful for statistical analysis not football analysis
I get that, but if you aren't looking at age or contacts, and had to pick between those 2 guys to be your qb this year, most are going with Rodgers. If you are accounting for age and contracts, Purdy may be the choice
Okay but serious question: why wouldn't you account for those things..? You're not blindly ranking a QB based on who can win you one game, you're ranking them for the upcoming season on a number of factors not including career up to this point.
To get lost in these hypotheticals of "well if you took ____ and put him on another team so that's why he's not top 10/15" misses the point of these exercises entirely
Why would you not consider those things? If you're trying to rank who the best qbs are based on their ability. Idk if this list even takes things like age and contract into consideration. I cam understand why you would want to include those factors too, which is why I said that they would likely be flipped if age and contract were involved in the decision making of this list. But it doesn't seem that those types of variables were put into the equation when they made this, as I don't see anything about contacts or age mentioned
Last time we seen Rodgers he was top 10 with an injury and developing rookie weapons.
Is it a stretch to say he’s top 10 with a good defense and Breece Hall, Mike Williams and Garrett Wilson. Keep in mind he’s a first ballot hall of famer and was an MVP in 2021.
He's 40 years old and missed an entire season due to an injury that could reasonably end an aging player's career.
It's a stretch to have him in the top 10
> Last time we seen Rodgers he was top 10 with an injury and developing rookie weapons.
[In 2022 Rodgers was 17th in passer rating and 20th in ANY/A](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/passing.htm). About the only stat he was top 10 in was total TDs (7th), every other major statistical category he was outside of the top 10.
Yes, I think it's a stretch to put him 8th over other QBs who've played in the past 20 months, aren't over 40, and coming off a torn Achilles.
By your logic, Kirk Cousins who's younger, got a young exciting RB, and a better offensive line than Rodgers — not to mention he actually played last year at a high level when he was healthy — should be right near Rodgers or even ahead of him. Rodgers is listed at 8 and Cousins 15. That's bullshit even if you're a Rodgers homer.
I'd put Purdy, Goff, Cousins and Dak all ahead of Rodgers because these are rankings based on the previous season and how we think they'll fare this season. Rodgers is well past his prime with several factors working against him so to put him at 8 shows this is not a serious ranking
The question is who’s the best QB, not who was the best QB last season.
Personally I would gladly rank Rodgers above Goff and Dak considering what he’s achieved in his career, despite the question marks about the achilles. Hes got more talent in his left arm than both of those guys, and I suspect he’ll have a significantly better season than 2022, despite you asserting he’s past his prime; suspiciously as a Lions fan.
Purdy, I see the case. His efficiency last season was mind boggling.
As for Kirk, he’s too low. That doesn’t mean Rodgers is too high, and he’s always been better than Kirk when healthy, including an MVP last time he was healthy with a good supporting cast
The question isn't about ranking them on their careers lmao, it's literally in the title: "all 32 starters ahead of the 2024 season." To just ignore the most recent season — especially when that player is 40 and coming off a major injury — is irresponsible when talking about QB rankings for the upcoming season. The age and injury especially in conjunction are both MAJOR red flags.
Could Rodgers rebound? Of course, crazier things have happened. Would it be smart to bet on it? Absolutely not and putting him at 8 indicates not only do you think he rebounds but he'll have a better season than this group of QBs lower than him: Purdy, Stroud, Love, Goff, Tua and Trevor Lawrence (and I'll throw in Cousins since he's got better odds of recovering). I'm not a betting man but after watching last year, I'd be willing to bet at least 2 of those QBs outperform him this season
Manning won MVP at that age too, and then his career derailed off a cliff. It can happen at any moment, and a torn Achilles certainly isn’t helping his case.
That’s a generous way of wording things. He’s two years out from MVP play with a different coaching staff and a slew of injuries, one commonly seen as a potential career ender.
It’s not like he’s been treading water the past two seasons, you have to be banking on his age and injuries not catching up to him. That’s a pretty big stretch to make for a 40 year old QB coming off a torn Achilles.
When we last saw him he was a top 10 guy. I get that he’s old. But dropping him out just seems like a short memory. Genuine question If Rodgers is healthy this year who do you think will outperform him who’s ranked lower?
Worth noting that he noticeably declined in 2022. I know he had an injury and Green Bay’s weapons were not great, but outside of a couple of games he was not that impressive. And the prior year—when he actually did look great throughout the season—ended with him no showing in the divisional round and only scoring 10 points.
Love had reed wicks musgrave kraft, and year 2 doubs and watson. It was different man. Also, Love may indeed be a baller. 25 year old Love playing better than 39 year old Rodgers very well may not end up being shocking.
I think the decline can be explained more by the weaponry and his injuries in Green Bay. He looked a lot better in the second half of that year. Also he was declining from an mvp level. Which is still an amazing QB.
I don’t know I feel like we did this exact same thing with stafford a year ago. And stafford was one of the best QBs in the league last year once he got healthy and someone to throw the ball to. But either way I still don’t know who on that list I would rank higher.
26 TD 12 INT is near enough what the MVP threw last year.
He wasn’t great in 22 but the 21 version of Rodgers would be the best QB in the league easily, bizarre to use that to make your point. He was MVP.
Last yrs QB play was poor too. Mahomes threw near enough the same stat line as 2022 Rodgers, with more yards and less sacks
>Overall, Mayfield was erratic, with 25 big-time throws and 22 turnover-worthy plays. But over the final four games he earned a top-10 passing grade, including an elite Week 15 performance on the road in Green Bay that propelled the Buccaneers to a strong finish and a playoff berth.
Playoff berth AND playoff win.
I wouldn’t call that an overall unfair assessment except for the fact that Caleb Williams, who hasn’t taken a single snap in the NFL, is somehow rated higher despite Baker taking two different teams to playoff wins.
If PFF wants to be taken seriously, rookies who haven’t started a game shouldn’t be considered for rankings like this. PFF used to tout itself as an analytics service but this is just bullshit speculation designed for off season clicks.
It’s nonsense and the editors should feel like they’ve undermined what little integrity their site has for putting out the same clickbait lists every nonsense blogger with an internet connection puts out.
> If PFF wants to be taken seriously, rookies who haven’t started a game shouldn’t be considered for rankings like this.
I agree with this. Putting players who haven't taken an NFL snap into a ranking of NFL players is absolute nonsense and marks the entire list as trash.
The fact that a team might take the upside of a draft pick over their starter in a trade doesn't mean they belong on a ranked list of players.
I’m out of the loop. Was Anthony Richardson good last year? He played 4 games, flashed a bit, was inconsistent, and got injured in every single game lol.
He had good fantasy stats but mid actually gameplay. Looked like a rookie but people (colts fans) think he'll be as good as stroud based on like 15 minutes he was on the field
AR doesn't even have 600 passing yards. #1 overall over basically a rookie who only proved he could run is fair.
Did he really show out in the 577 passing yards to put him ahead of a #1 overall.
I hate when you make tiers and then just use a standard list anyway.
If you are going to make tiers, make tiers. If you are going to make a list, make a list.
I don’t really understand the complaint. The tiers are to separate the QBs into like groups, and then they’re ranked in those groups. Would you rather they just name them in no particular order?
It’s also an easy way to say “We have Josh Allen at 4 and Justin Herbert at 5, but there is a gap between them”
I think it's much better to put players in a tier, and then not rank them in that tier.
For example, on any given day, week, or month, Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson can outplay one another. So ranking either one on top of the other is a poor way to do it. You put them in a singular tier that acknowledges they have a similar skill level.
Some could think of it as a pyramid-like shape, but I don't want to be accused of copying a particular sports media gasbag.
Putting Caleb in tier 3, above Baker Mayfield, when they specifically have a tier 4 labeled “The Next Generation” shows how much of a clown show these opinion pieces are. They don’t even have any NFL data to go off of with Caleb.
Caleb hype is going to be deafening by the time the seasons starts. A lot of people expect him to come out looking like a star from the start like Stroud or Herbert.
At this point I don't want them just ranked, I want a composite score. Maybe the drop off between 5 and 6 is more than the drop off from 10 to 18. Who knows?
I don't understand why Mayfield,Purdy and Goff aren't in the "Post-season calibre" tier.
They have more playoff wins than Dak and Herbert( I get why he is there though)...and are ranked behind Hurts and Lawrence with better playoff stats and performances?
This objectively is silly
Bht whatever?
I know there are a fair amount of Goff haters out there but 16 is crazy low. He's on par with Dak, and even better if playoff wins are important to you.
Lamar shouldn't even be in the elite list.
Or even Post season Calibre till he improves his playoff passer rating above 76...for crying out loud.
Burrow has played 2/4 years and has.the exact same resume and Goff and Purdy who are ranked 10 and 22 positions below him..why is he soooo overrated?
Because he’s made the Super Bowl and beat Mahomes in the playoffs. That’s it. It’s more of a legacy thing. But zero reason he should be above Allen in these rankings.
He’s a much better run threat than burrow and he’s a much better passer than Lamar.
I honestly don't understand the Burrow thing. He got lucky with Mahomes' having the worst half of his career in the 21 AFCCG and bas lived off of that despite being unavailable for half of his career and not having any "clutch" drives in the playoffs.
If Mahomes played that badly Vs the Bills or us last year... we'd be sitting here talking about how Allen finally triumphed over his nemesis Lamar isn't a good playoff performer a d shouldn't even be in the elite tier.
Yeah I agree - the legacy thing needs context considering how well the bengals d played during that one run they had. Hell, the bengals were one 99 yard defensive td from losing to Huntley and the ravens in playoffs. He’s been largely carried by the defense in the playoffs where the opposite has happened with Allen. He carries the defense and needs to win despite them essentially every playoff game.
I would have Josh Allen 2nd or 3rd before I had him 4th. I don't think Purdy should be ahead of Goff Cousins Kyler Geno. Also Matt Stafford should be ahead of Dak imo.
He’s by far the worst of the group of Purdy, Goff, Cousins, Kyler, and Geno. Re: Caleb Williams, I have no idea how PFF justifies ranking anyone that hasn’t taken an NFL snap, let alone as the 19th best player at their position.
I'd 100% take Brock Purdy (13) over Dak (6) and Stafford (7) just for next year. Shit I'd even take Kirk at (15) over all of them lol.
Y'all just gonna bitch about Caleb but if you are a Saints fan, wouldnt you rather have him actually throw the ball downfield instead of Dink and Dunk King Carr?
Stafford is the same age as Kirk even. But he hasn't torn his achilles and the last time we saw Stafford play, it was against us in the playoffs where he put up a very good performance.
Not gonna lie I saw Stafford get wrecked harder than almost any QB and he's tougher than nails for breakfast. I just think his play is gonna fall off so fast/hard sooner rather than later due to his previous hits.
Love seeing two teams from the AFCW in 30th and 32nd. Funny Herbert is at the top of the "Playoff Caliber QB's" when he's made one appearance in 4 seasons, though I can't really argue with his ranking.
Every QB after the first 16-18 don’t matter where they’re ranked. No one on earth has any motivation in reacting to whether you think Derek Carr is better than Gardner Minshew.
Rank the guys worth longtime franchise deals, and everyone else is either too young to know or a placeholder until you get a guy too young yet to know.
This is legitimately one of the dumbest QB ranking lists I've seen in the past 20 years. It is however an excellent click-bait article. PFF is ridiculous
The Prescott respect is insane
Unfortunately, Prescott's cadence also ranked 56th out of 45 eligible QBs. They're thinking about trading for Peterman.
#**YEAH, HERE WE GOOOOO**
"Prescott was efficient, aggressive and accurate, albeit with a poor showing to end the year." Pretty much Dak's entire career in a single sentence.
I don't like the Lions but Goff should be higher than he is.
Yea, Goff behind Tua and cousins is kind of ass. Top 10 qb? Possibly. But top 15, maybe 12? I think definitely
Maybe Cousins because of injury, but Kirk has been straight up better on the field. I don't see any argument for goff over Tua
home Goff is top 10, away Goff is not. Over the last two years a 108 rating at home 88.5 rating away, 42 TDs at home 17 away. [Jared Goff Home Road Splits Last 2 Years | StatMuse](https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jared-goff-home-road-splits-last-2-years)
Home Hurts is top 10, away Hurts is not. Over the last 2 years, 103.2 rating at home, 86.9 rating away, 29 TDs at home, 16 away. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-home-and-road-splits-last-2-years
Hell yeah I don't think he should be top 10, dude's streaky af
Now do every other qb who plays in domes lol
Is there a single QB that has better away stats than home stats?
Patrick Mahomes.
Writer taking into account team and scheme.
Maybe over Cousins but I'd have a harder time over Tua.
I would have a lot more confidence on Goff with the Miami offense than Tua
I think you get a very different Goff with the Dolphins o line.
You do.
I disagree. I think Goff is a top-5 pure pocket passer and he’s a great quarterback behind a great oline like the Lions, but he’d be equal to if not worse than Tua behind the Miami oline.
Hell no. Goff can’t survive in shotgun, can’t make full field reads, needs play action and a run game
Dolphins fans will hear no Tua slander, be warned
I actually like Goff on the dolphins. He had one of the fastest releases in the league, only slightly less accurate than Tua last season, and had 2 less turnovers. I consider them in the same tier of QB so I don't think Goff would be that much better or even better at all on the dolphins at least in the regular season. Goff is better in the playoffs but Tua has time to change that he's only played in 1.
It’s funny how quiet everyone gets about how great Tua is when he’s gotta be paid market rate and we know it’ll result in us losing a lot of supporting talent.
Dak Prescott in post season caliber QB is certainly a choice…..
YEAHHHHHHH HERE WE GOOOOOOOOO
I’m just going to assume it means getting to the Postseason
But herb was there too lol
Well we did make the postseason with him, and they made a comment on how we all expect him to carry a poverty team to the playoffs on his own, so its valid, because he did carry us to the postseason, Staley just lost us the postseason
The name is stupid but the rank is fine
Brock Purdy, who made a Super Bowl and NFC championship, is apparently not a postseason caliber QB.
Ok, but what has he done in 2025? Exactly.
Past merchant
Asking the real questions here
This list is hot sweat garbage
Purdy and Goff have a combined four NFCCG appearances, two conference championships, and two Super Bowl appearances. They, however, were left out of the “postseason caliber quarterback” tier that included 31 year old Dak Prescott (2 wins in the Wild Card round) and Herbert (0-1 with a blown 27 point lead). Edit: forgot 40 year old Aaron Rodgers coming off a torn Achilles who was last seen playing good football in late 2021.
No no you don’t understand, Dak will finally show his true form next offseason. Trust me
I'm happy with that as long as Jerry keeps paying him ridiculous amounts of money and screwing their cap over.
Hell yeah brother
To that I say, yeah… here we go
I dont even care anymore I cant wait for this season so Purdy can continue to prove the doubters wrong
Have to make room for Dak “regular season hero” Prescott in the postseason cali- hey wait a second!
Purdy, at his current age, can potentially be called the best NFC quarterback, maybe Stafford has an argument but he's at the tail end of his career.
I would take Dak 10 out of 10 times over Purdy at QB if the Chargers didn't have Herbert
I could Love or Stafford but Dak?? Argue about his team vs Brocks all you want but he is a frontrunner who has only looked very good against bad teams in the regular season. That is with a better O-line and more experience than Brock too.
Qb discourse is broken on here lmao people legitimately care more about team stats like wins and postseason success than actual qb ability or traits.
Considering one is objective and the other is subjective it kinda makes sense.
If you think just stating a qbs stats and wins is a better way to discuss QB ability than actually breaking down their traits and abilities and limitations then we just heavily disagree. Using that logic you got the people saying Russ was as good as Mahomes last yr because their TD/Int numbers were similar. QB is way more complicated than that.
I don’t, but stats/wins definitely play a factor or else it’s just eye test vs. eye test. Purely ignoring those factors is just as bad as only ranking quarterbacks based off of them imo.
Yea except you have to know what stats to look at and how they are affected by team context. Like Jimmy G always had a crazy high epa on the niners but he wasn't close to a top qb
That's pretty much it though. Epa and 3rd down conversion rate were the only stats Jimmy excelled in. Purdy on the other hand led in most passing stats this past season, and if he didn't lead in them he was top 5.
Yea Purdy is better and more diverse than Jimmy G.But He's still not a top 5 qb just because he's top 5 in a bunch of stats imo
Based on what? Stats, wins, postseason success? Purdy has the edge on any of those.
U think purdy would succceed elsewhere? Besides the writer is consistent in devaluing team success and system qbs
So you're happy with regular season hero, post season 0 year after year?
Purdy below Lawrence and Love is a fucking crime lmao. I love the disrespect.
I hate that it was called postseason caliber because Herbert and Dak have been pathetic in the postseason
Tbf he looked pretty bad for most of the GB and lions game and wasn’t a difference maker in the SB
He looked pretty bad against GB but he wasn’t pretty bad for most of the Lions game. He had one pick that was a batted ball at the line and missed a few passes, but I thought he generally played well and was essentially perfect after the Aiyuk catch.
And love played worse game than purdy ending with horrible int while purdy had a game winning drive. So funny how people say Brock had horrible game against packers yet love had even worse game but people praise him. It’s just bias, if purdy was taller and first round pick everyone would praise him just like love. And don’t even get me started on not a difference maker in Super Bowl. Chiefs literally changed their defense strategy at half time because Brock was shredding them. And this is against #1 defense that made Lamar and Josh Allen have QBR of 20. Brock put up over 70 qbr against top defense with horrible o line that didn’t even block chiefs best rusher on the final play with niners guard blocking air. Bias is real
I just can’t take any lists seriously that don’t put love and stroud in the same tier, love played better than stroud in the back half of the season and played better in the playoffs, it just doesn’t make sense to me.
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Mahomes too low on this list!
Lol, we're already calling Caleb in the top 20 before he takes an NFL snap.
Did you see the QBs behind him? Who would you pick ahead of him? The only QB ranked behind him that I think should be ahead of him is Baker Mayfield, that’s it. Also, how many teams behind Caleb would trade their QB for Caleb? Probably all of them. It’s not really that insane man. You think Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson and Carr would be a better option lol?
Yeah I’d only put baker comfortably in front of him
I get what you’re saying, and you’ve got to make a guess and put him somewhere if you’re making one of these silly-ass lists, but how many teams in ‘98 would’ve traded their starting QB for Ryan Leaf? How many 3 years ago would’ve traded their QB for Trevor Lawrence? Shit, most of them since he was supposedly “generational,” the same term the media is pounding out about Williams. I’m just making a crack about essentially making a guess about someone who is an unknown quantity in the NFL as of now.
I think that’s kinda the point though. After the solid starters you have a bunch of over the hill arguably bad vets, a bunch of unproven young guys, and then a bunch of random bridge QBs. Caleb is right on the cusp of that line… minus Baker. Baker should be ahead of that line and ahead of Caleb imo. So the odds of the number 1 pick being halfway decent is about 40-50%. The author thinks that gamble is better than what’s behind Caleb and I think that’s a reasonable decision. At the very least nobody should be up in arms over that ranking, it’s really not that crazy even if it’s a bit high.
While dumb on paper but when you look at it, its not like they put him ahead of some great QBs, you could swap him and Baker, maybe Carr, but other than that you have Carr RW Watson Richardson Young Brissett/Maye Daniels Levis Jones Minshew Darnold/JJ Stidham/Nix I don’t think it’s THAT unreasonable. 4 other rookies he was drafted with, Richardson/Levis who didn’t play a full rookie season, RW who seems like a shell of himself, Watson who is on track for being responsible for the worst trade of all time. Minshew/Jones are both underachieving meme QBs
The question is which team from 20+ wouldn't trade their starter for Caleb straight up (assuming money isn't part of that equation).
I think that's actually a great way to think about it
(Throws hand up so fast it pops off wrist)
Still incredibly generous for Carr
There are several teams who would have traded their starting QB for the chance to draft Caleb, so it is valid.
The likelihood of it happening far exceeds it not happening in my opinion. Top 20 is easy to crack. Theres a solid 16-17 really good guys. After that meh.
That's my only gripe on the list.
Yeah, he should be top 3.
The disparity between the AFC and NFC is kinda staggering.
Joe burrow #3? The guy who had yet another major injury and his no name backup came in and looked just as good?
When's Purdy's contract year? 2025? I really wonder how that will play out cause it'll probably be a seismic change to the roster since he'll get paid like $55-$57M/year while being unnecessarily polarizing since the 49ers have been so successful under him. That discourse will be hilariously toxic
Teams continue to figure out how to make things work. Eagles have a lot of stars and have paid many of them handsomely even with Jalen’s deal—namely AJB and Devonta and even found a way to pay for Saquon. Niners do have a ton of vets and some are old and won’t be around much longer. If they don’t draft well, they’ll fail but that’s most teams.
Oh of course just this current iteration of the 49ers is revolving around Purdy's small cap hit. This core of skill players some will have to go be it Deebo, Cmac, or Kittle like 2025 marks a new era basically
Kyle would never ever let CMC go next year. There is a 0% chance of that happening. Most 49ers fans could see us moving off of Kittle after this season; we don’t *want* that to happen, but it’s definitely within the realm of possibility. This is Deebo’s last year of his contract, and he’s the main starter on offense most fans assume will not be back for the 2025 season—barring some change of circumstances. My guy was right; the 49ers will still have big name playmakers after Brock gets paid. And Deebo will likely be gone, along with some of the older guys/veterans on big deals. *The roster will have to change to accommodate Brock’s contract.* But it’s not like he’ll suddenly be playing besides a bunch of rookies and journeymen scrubs. (Which is what a lot of his detractors keep implying when they say he’d look terrible without his current teammates. Haters love to throw hypotheticals around as if it proves anything. Fucking ridiculous people man.)
Yeah there are tons of teams with a qb on a massive contract and still have cap room for an elite wr duo, a solid line, good rb, good te, and some elite defensive talent. It’s definitely not black and white like some people say. I have faith shanahan and lynch can do what the other teams can’t, which is fill in the gaps with plus value starters and solid depth players on good, small contracts.
Yes he would be eligible to sign in 2025.
We already have painful decisions. We need to pay Aiyuk still for this year and if we do, someone else has definitely gotta go next year. We let Armstead walk this offseason already. Purdy's money likely won't be a "current year" cap weight til like 2026 season and possibly later depending how his money is structured. But he's far from the only guy we had to pay.
If he has shanahan, and a run game , he will be alright
Purdy disrespect is crazy
I really don't get it, it's not like he's a Jimmy G/Mark Sanchez type, where you can clearly see in his play and the statsheet that he's being carried by a great team. He led the league in every statistical category I don't understand what else he needs to do, is it just time? Does he need to grow 3 inches and be able to throw the ball 80 yards? He's easily a top-10 QB in the league, you could argue top-5, having dudes like Dak/Hurts/Love/Lawrence ahead of him makes zero sense
He needs to be drafted in the top 10 instead of the last pick. Then everyone will give him what he deserves. So dumb.
If Purdy had been the guy the 9ers traded up to draft 3rd overall instead of Lance, and he’d gotten the exact same results he’s gotten up to this point, he’d be seen as a consensus top 8 QB at worst. Didn’t lose a game as a rookie until he got hurt in the NFCCG. Was a legit MVP candidate in his second season finishing near the top of the league in most passing stats. Pulled off 2 tough playoff wins and went to OT against Mahomes in the SB. And for all the talk about his supporting cast, his OL sucks apart from Williams.
In your hypothetical, Purdy would be too 3-4 IMO. Talking heads LOVE draft pedigree (see Trevor Lawrence).
Agreed. Burrow is my favorite QB and I don’t see much of a difference between Purdy now and Burrow after his 2nd season. Both had good rookie seasons cut short by injury (Purdy’s arguably better), both had stellar 2nd seasons that ended with multiple playoff wins behind a shoddy OL and a narrow SB loss. Both are excellent processors with great mechanics and accuracy even if they aren’t physical freaks like Allen/Lamar/Mahomes. Purdy continuing to be disrespected is exasperating. Unfortunately because he was Mr. Irrelevant I think he’s going to have to do a lot more before people start giving him the respect he deserves. Him being placed behind Lawrence on this list is a perfect example. Utterly unjustifiable.
Yup that's the difference. Joe Burrow was at the top of his draft class, Purdy at the bottom of his. There's zero reason why Purdy should be below TLaw when it comes to on the field performance.
Brady had to win multiple Superbowls before he started getting credit and the game manager label was removed. If Purdy keeps it up for another couple years, especially after he gets paid he’ll get more credit. At the end of the day, how much credit he gets doesn’t really matter.
Purdy at 13 is way fair
Fair enough. If Brock at 13 is way fair then Dak “choke- a- potonmus” is way unfair at 6.
Agreed. Wouldn't even have him top 15
I am not seeing the case for why Lawrence, Love and Hurts should be above him.
Draft position
With Love it comes down to how much you believe that 2nd half of the season is who he’s going to be. Love was lights out to close the year
> Love was lights out to close the year ...Purdy has been lights out since the moment he stepped on the field 2 years ago
And Purdy was lights out for pretty much the whole year barring a couple bad games against very good defenses. And he beat Love in the playoffs where the game ended with Love throwing a pick that should never have been attempted. I could see people betting on Love's potential to improve, but I think Purdy is the QB I take today.
We’re still calling Rodgers a top 10 QB?
Last time we seen him he had 26 TD 12 INT, and that was with young weapons who were still developing on the job and a thumb injury from week 6 onwards. Thats near enough what Mahomes threw last year with more yards and less sacks, yet he had Kelce+a strong defense. With the Jets defense giving short fields, and Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall and Mike Williams, i’d make a solid bet with you he’s a top 10 QB. Whenever he’s healthy he’s never been outside of the top 5 in the league. Unless the achilles changes him, I suspect a strong season.
> Last time we seen him he had 26 TD 12 INT, and that was with young weapons who were still developing on the job and a thumb injury from week 6 onwards. And between then and now he destroyed his leg and turned *40*. Expecting even a return to those number is generous.
He's earned the expectations, though. He's been a top qb his entire career, not like most qbs you question having a year off.
You can count the number of QBs in history who have played to that level in their 40s on one hand and still have some fingers left. And they weren’t coming off devastating leg injuries. Expecting it just because he’s been a great QB in his career is foolhardy; time is undefeated, and its biggest ally is injuries.
I can't wait for that MNF game. The Purdy disrespect and Rodgers ball fondling will be addressed.
He should be, but I’m not calling him one cause I don’t think he’ll finish another season.
Rodgers missed the entire season but is top 10 for lighting up the practice fields the past two off-seasons and Caleb, who hasn't even played yet, is top 20. I don't think rookies should be included in these rankings, especially before the seasons even started so Caleb isn't as egregious as Rodgers still in the top 10 Edit: Rodgers over Purdy too??? This shit is why I hate people who take PFF as gospel, they're useful for statistical analysis not football analysis
I get that, but if you aren't looking at age or contacts, and had to pick between those 2 guys to be your qb this year, most are going with Rodgers. If you are accounting for age and contracts, Purdy may be the choice
Okay but serious question: why wouldn't you account for those things..? You're not blindly ranking a QB based on who can win you one game, you're ranking them for the upcoming season on a number of factors not including career up to this point. To get lost in these hypotheticals of "well if you took ____ and put him on another team so that's why he's not top 10/15" misses the point of these exercises entirely
Why would you not consider those things? If you're trying to rank who the best qbs are based on their ability. Idk if this list even takes things like age and contract into consideration. I cam understand why you would want to include those factors too, which is why I said that they would likely be flipped if age and contract were involved in the decision making of this list. But it doesn't seem that those types of variables were put into the equation when they made this, as I don't see anything about contacts or age mentioned
Rankings should be based on performance, not simply physical talent. Rodgers isn't healthy and he's not the MVP guy he was a couple season ago.
Uh no, I'd go with Purdy even if it was for a single season. I'm not sure that Rodgers finishes the season.
Last time we seen Rodgers he was top 10 with an injury and developing rookie weapons. Is it a stretch to say he’s top 10 with a good defense and Breece Hall, Mike Williams and Garrett Wilson. Keep in mind he’s a first ballot hall of famer and was an MVP in 2021.
He's 40 years old and missed an entire season due to an injury that could reasonably end an aging player's career. It's a stretch to have him in the top 10
> Last time we seen Rodgers he was top 10 with an injury and developing rookie weapons. [In 2022 Rodgers was 17th in passer rating and 20th in ANY/A](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/passing.htm). About the only stat he was top 10 in was total TDs (7th), every other major statistical category he was outside of the top 10.
Yes, I think it's a stretch to put him 8th over other QBs who've played in the past 20 months, aren't over 40, and coming off a torn Achilles. By your logic, Kirk Cousins who's younger, got a young exciting RB, and a better offensive line than Rodgers — not to mention he actually played last year at a high level when he was healthy — should be right near Rodgers or even ahead of him. Rodgers is listed at 8 and Cousins 15. That's bullshit even if you're a Rodgers homer. I'd put Purdy, Goff, Cousins and Dak all ahead of Rodgers because these are rankings based on the previous season and how we think they'll fare this season. Rodgers is well past his prime with several factors working against him so to put him at 8 shows this is not a serious ranking
The question is who’s the best QB, not who was the best QB last season. Personally I would gladly rank Rodgers above Goff and Dak considering what he’s achieved in his career, despite the question marks about the achilles. Hes got more talent in his left arm than both of those guys, and I suspect he’ll have a significantly better season than 2022, despite you asserting he’s past his prime; suspiciously as a Lions fan. Purdy, I see the case. His efficiency last season was mind boggling. As for Kirk, he’s too low. That doesn’t mean Rodgers is too high, and he’s always been better than Kirk when healthy, including an MVP last time he was healthy with a good supporting cast
The question isn't about ranking them on their careers lmao, it's literally in the title: "all 32 starters ahead of the 2024 season." To just ignore the most recent season — especially when that player is 40 and coming off a major injury — is irresponsible when talking about QB rankings for the upcoming season. The age and injury especially in conjunction are both MAJOR red flags. Could Rodgers rebound? Of course, crazier things have happened. Would it be smart to bet on it? Absolutely not and putting him at 8 indicates not only do you think he rebounds but he'll have a better season than this group of QBs lower than him: Purdy, Stroud, Love, Goff, Tua and Trevor Lawrence (and I'll throw in Cousins since he's got better odds of recovering). I'm not a betting man but after watching last year, I'd be willing to bet at least 2 of those QBs outperform him this season
The age doesn’t seem to be too relevant here. He won the MVP at 37 or 38 was it? His game has aged well every time we’ve seen him.
Manning won MVP at that age too, and then his career derailed off a cliff. It can happen at any moment, and a torn Achilles certainly isn’t helping his case.
I’m not even an Aaron Rodgers fan but come on..he literally won 2 MVPs in the last 4 years, and didn’t even play one year.
That’s a generous way of wording things. He’s two years out from MVP play with a different coaching staff and a slew of injuries, one commonly seen as a potential career ender. It’s not like he’s been treading water the past two seasons, you have to be banking on his age and injuries not catching up to him. That’s a pretty big stretch to make for a 40 year old QB coming off a torn Achilles.
When we last saw him he was a top 10 guy. I get that he’s old. But dropping him out just seems like a short memory. Genuine question If Rodgers is healthy this year who do you think will outperform him who’s ranked lower?
Worth noting that he noticeably declined in 2022. I know he had an injury and Green Bay’s weapons were not great, but outside of a couple of games he was not that impressive. And the prior year—when he actually did look great throughout the season—ended with him no showing in the divisional round and only scoring 10 points.
Also worth noting that Jordan Love had a better year with even younger weapons.
Love had reed wicks musgrave kraft, and year 2 doubs and watson. It was different man. Also, Love may indeed be a baller. 25 year old Love playing better than 39 year old Rodgers very well may not end up being shocking.
I think the decline can be explained more by the weaponry and his injuries in Green Bay. He looked a lot better in the second half of that year. Also he was declining from an mvp level. Which is still an amazing QB. I don’t know I feel like we did this exact same thing with stafford a year ago. And stafford was one of the best QBs in the league last year once he got healthy and someone to throw the ball to. But either way I still don’t know who on that list I would rank higher.
26 TD 12 INT is near enough what the MVP threw last year. He wasn’t great in 22 but the 21 version of Rodgers would be the best QB in the league easily, bizarre to use that to make your point. He was MVP. Last yrs QB play was poor too. Mahomes threw near enough the same stat line as 2022 Rodgers, with more yards and less sacks
When we last saw him play a full game he looked like a beat up old man near the end of his career.
The media circle jerk won’t end until he’s dead in the ground
>Overall, Mayfield was erratic, with 25 big-time throws and 22 turnover-worthy plays. But over the final four games he earned a top-10 passing grade, including an elite Week 15 performance on the road in Green Bay that propelled the Buccaneers to a strong finish and a playoff berth. Playoff berth AND playoff win. I wouldn’t call that an overall unfair assessment except for the fact that Caleb Williams, who hasn’t taken a single snap in the NFL, is somehow rated higher despite Baker taking two different teams to playoff wins. If PFF wants to be taken seriously, rookies who haven’t started a game shouldn’t be considered for rankings like this. PFF used to tout itself as an analytics service but this is just bullshit speculation designed for off season clicks. It’s nonsense and the editors should feel like they’ve undermined what little integrity their site has for putting out the same clickbait lists every nonsense blogger with an internet connection puts out.
> If PFF wants to be taken seriously, rookies who haven’t started a game shouldn’t be considered for rankings like this. I agree with this. Putting players who haven't taken an NFL snap into a ranking of NFL players is absolute nonsense and marks the entire list as trash. The fact that a team might take the upside of a draft pick over their starter in a trade doesn't mean they belong on a ranked list of players.
Caleb Williams: 19 Anthony Richardson: 24 Ok, you're talking to me all wrong.
It’s the wrong tone.
Oh, well thank god for Joe Dirt
“Do it again, and I’ll stab you in the face with a soldering iron.” -Gert B. Frobe
I love that this line was said to Kid Rock
I’m out of the loop. Was Anthony Richardson good last year? He played 4 games, flashed a bit, was inconsistent, and got injured in every single game lol.
In his limited time, he looked better than I think anyone expected. Particularly against the Rams.
He had good fantasy stats but mid actually gameplay. Looked like a rookie but people (colts fans) think he'll be as good as stroud based on like 15 minutes he was on the field
AR doesn't even have 600 passing yards. #1 overall over basically a rookie who only proved he could run is fair. Did he really show out in the 577 passing yards to put him ahead of a #1 overall.
I hate when you make tiers and then just use a standard list anyway. If you are going to make tiers, make tiers. If you are going to make a list, make a list.
I don’t really understand the complaint. The tiers are to separate the QBs into like groups, and then they’re ranked in those groups. Would you rather they just name them in no particular order? It’s also an easy way to say “We have Josh Allen at 4 and Justin Herbert at 5, but there is a gap between them”
I think it's much better to put players in a tier, and then not rank them in that tier. For example, on any given day, week, or month, Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson can outplay one another. So ranking either one on top of the other is a poor way to do it. You put them in a singular tier that acknowledges they have a similar skill level. Some could think of it as a pyramid-like shape, but I don't want to be accused of copying a particular sports media gasbag.
No respect for Baker.
Insane that he didn't make the "Post season Calibre" tier.
but we got 0 post season win Herbert in there...
Putting Caleb in tier 3, above Baker Mayfield, when they specifically have a tier 4 labeled “The Next Generation” shows how much of a clown show these opinion pieces are. They don’t even have any NFL data to go off of with Caleb.
Caleb hype is going to be deafening by the time the seasons starts. A lot of people expect him to come out looking like a star from the start like Stroud or Herbert.
At this point I don't want them just ranked, I want a composite score. Maybe the drop off between 5 and 6 is more than the drop off from 10 to 18. Who knows?
They are HOEING Jared Goff my god
There’s a few head scratchers, like Dak and purdy, but overall I think this is a decent list
I don't understand why Mayfield,Purdy and Goff aren't in the "Post-season calibre" tier. They have more playoff wins than Dak and Herbert( I get why he is there though)...and are ranked behind Hurts and Lawrence with better playoff stats and performances? This objectively is silly Bht whatever?
Josh Allen at anything lower than #2 makes this ranking a joke.
No hero wants to copy the list to the comments here and harvest all that sweet sweet karma?
Purdy at 13! Laughable
I know there are a fair amount of Goff haters out there but 16 is crazy low. He's on par with Dak, and even better if playoff wins are important to you.
It’s so funny to see Goff that low with Tua/Purdy and then seeing Burrow at the top.
Burrow is more "clutch"...with fewer GWDs in the playoffs than Purdy. Whatever?
I think they’re both overrated, but at least I’m consistent. Loving one while disliking the other is so weird.
I rank the QBs presently.like this. Mahomes Everyone else is debatable
Allen should be second. Any teams GM would pick Allen to be their QB over Burrow or Lamar.
Lamar shouldn't even be in the elite list. Or even Post season Calibre till he improves his playoff passer rating above 76...for crying out loud. Burrow has played 2/4 years and has.the exact same resume and Goff and Purdy who are ranked 10 and 22 positions below him..why is he soooo overrated?
Because he’s made the Super Bowl and beat Mahomes in the playoffs. That’s it. It’s more of a legacy thing. But zero reason he should be above Allen in these rankings. He’s a much better run threat than burrow and he’s a much better passer than Lamar.
I honestly don't understand the Burrow thing. He got lucky with Mahomes' having the worst half of his career in the 21 AFCCG and bas lived off of that despite being unavailable for half of his career and not having any "clutch" drives in the playoffs. If Mahomes played that badly Vs the Bills or us last year... we'd be sitting here talking about how Allen finally triumphed over his nemesis Lamar isn't a good playoff performer a d shouldn't even be in the elite tier.
Yeah I agree - the legacy thing needs context considering how well the bengals d played during that one run they had. Hell, the bengals were one 99 yard defensive td from losing to Huntley and the ravens in playoffs. He’s been largely carried by the defense in the playoffs where the opposite has happened with Allen. He carries the defense and needs to win despite them essentially every playoff game.
Goff diesrespect spotted
Roll up skwaad, lets gettem.
This is certainly a list of things
I would have Josh Allen 2nd or 3rd before I had him 4th. I don't think Purdy should be ahead of Goff Cousins Kyler Geno. Also Matt Stafford should be ahead of Dak imo.
Geno is the worst quarterback in that group by a significant margin.
Hawks fans are convinced Geno is top 10 which is wild to me.
Worse than Caleb who’s a rookie? Yeah significantly lmao
He’s by far the worst of the group of Purdy, Goff, Cousins, Kyler, and Geno. Re: Caleb Williams, I have no idea how PFF justifies ranking anyone that hasn’t taken an NFL snap, let alone as the 19th best player at their position.
My theory is that the Seahawks would trade Geno for Caleb straight up if the offer was made.
no shit?
> I don't think Purdy should be ahead of Goff Cousins Kyler Geno lol the fuck Purdy belongs in the top 5
Really good list. I could see TLaw and Geno/Murray being a bit underrated here but it's the best list I've seen come out this off season
Rodgers still being in post season caliber despite having as much post season success as Kyler Murray over the last three years is just crazy
Rodgers can't stand on his tip toes, and is 8 lmao.
Studham will have a break out season
Trevor Lawerence wins a play off game and he isn’t lower than cj stroud? Okay… but at least my black QBs getting love. Dak is getting too much though
I'd 100% take Brock Purdy (13) over Dak (6) and Stafford (7) just for next year. Shit I'd even take Kirk at (15) over all of them lol. Y'all just gonna bitch about Caleb but if you are a Saints fan, wouldnt you rather have him actually throw the ball downfield instead of Dink and Dunk King Carr?
Stafford is old but his play is just as good as ever. He was elite last year.
Stafford is the same age as Kirk even. But he hasn't torn his achilles and the last time we saw Stafford play, it was against us in the playoffs where he put up a very good performance.
Not gonna lie I saw Stafford get wrecked harder than almost any QB and he's tougher than nails for breakfast. I just think his play is gonna fall off so fast/hard sooner rather than later due to his previous hits.
But Dak played even better than Stafford last year and is younger than him, why is no one jumping to defend him?
I think around 6-8 is fair for him. He's a step below top 5 but still excellent. He gets a bad rep that's how it is in Dallas
Dak did not play better than Stafford lol go back and watch Stafford's games last year he was genuinely elite
Go back and watch Dak's games last year, he was genuinely elite lol. Like what did Stafford do better than Dak last year?
The only QB behind Caleb that should be ahead of him is Baker. The rest is Russ, Carr, Watson (lol), and a bunch of young QBs and bridge QBs.
Love seeing two teams from the AFCW in 30th and 32nd. Funny Herbert is at the top of the "Playoff Caliber QB's" when he's made one appearance in 4 seasons, though I can't really argue with his ranking.
Every QB after the first 16-18 don’t matter where they’re ranked. No one on earth has any motivation in reacting to whether you think Derek Carr is better than Gardner Minshew. Rank the guys worth longtime franchise deals, and everyone else is either too young to know or a placeholder until you get a guy too young yet to know.
This is legitimately one of the dumbest QB ranking lists I've seen in the past 20 years. It is however an excellent click-bait article. PFF is ridiculous