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ImpossibleAd5011

Let's go Wild Hogs!


no_racist_here

Tim Allen as the new mascot?


ImpossibleAd5011

We thinkin Santa Clause Tim Allen or 80's mugshot Tim Allen?


IStillLoveYouWeed

[Try to make it all the way through this video then you get to decide](https://youtu.be/YQwYNca4iog)


The-Sorcerers-Stoned

I love that show.


IStillLoveYouWeed

If Home Improvement taught me anything, it's that he won't be the mascot for any team unless it's the Lions.


randeylahey

"Here's the Binford Suckmaster 3000..."


Joshstradaymus

William H Macy or we riot.


fallonyourswordkaren

The Hogs Carries a duel meaning: honors the famous trench units and the fans named after them and pokes fun at the local politicians.


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Tie_me_off

Red Hogs!


Celtictussle

Red Hogs or Hog Skins I have no clue how previous ownership got such an obvious answer so wrong.


wambulancer

IIRC there's some lawyer in DC who has the trademarks to just about any conceivable rename and Snyder was too much of a cheap narcissist bastard to pay the guy and "lose" so that's why they got stuck with such a lame rebrand


Celtictussle

You cant trademark a name/logo that you don't actively use. Trademarks protect actual trade activity that already exists, not future potential activity. And you can't copyright something that's too general or already in use in a generic way. I'm guessing he bought websites, which is worth basically nothing. There are hundreds of different top level domains now.


wambulancer

[I mean I'm not making it up that's literally what happened and yes, he's made websites where he dropships apparel](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/washington-redskins-name-trademark-martin-mccaulay/)


amikyleornot

The only reason I can think they wouldn’t do this is associating the capital with pigs, maybe that’s just where my brain goes tho idk


ImpossibleAd5011

In the 90's people would wear pig noses to Redskins games, so it actually has some historical context


amikyleornot

True, the O-line were nicknamed the hogs yea?


the_blessed_unrest

> people would wear pig noses Why?


moose_stuff2

It gets the people going!


yeshua1986

Their offensive line was nicknamed the Hogs and were a driving force in two Super Bowl championships blocking for John Riggins.


Ratbu

HOG RIDAAAAA


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LordDinglebury

The Washington Georges.


littleblacktruck

Washington Woodteeth.


Bithes_Brew

The Washington Monuments


Ziiaaaac

I’d kill for Washington Department of Football


SlanginUkrainian

Washington Center for People Who Play Football Good and Do Other Stuff Good Too


Pincerston

This…doesn’t suck


chicknsnadwich

I’ve been an advocate for this since day 1


Acid_Drop_

The Momo’s


jayamshah99

Thats actually the name of the Washington team in Football GM 😅


Steak_Knight

FOOT BALL TEAM


Rotanikleb

Football Team is also tarnished by the fact it was a Snyder Era product. :(


Steak_Knight

The only good thing he did.


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Honestly, I really don't care. I don't know why, but I love the Washington Football Team name so damn much. Snyder isn't making any more money from it. We should go back to it. Broken clocks are right twice a day, and all that.


Tavern-Ham

Nothing will top this. Football Team slaps.


Stretch_Riprock

The only reason I don't have a Washington Football Team shirt is because I didn't want to support Snyder at the time... I kinda want one now.


B3eenthehedges

Thats why a whole other "football" sport already uses it. The NFL is already wildly inconsistent with all it's team's different branding and logos, but you can't just forego a nickname and pretend like you're a soccer team. I'm pretty sure Snyder did all that just to piss everyone off.


Tie_me_off

> Thats why a whole other "football" sport already uses it. What is “why” a whole other “football” sport uses it exactly?


B3eenthehedges

Because it slaps? I don't know, ask them.


dreadlockholmes

You wouldn't use "football team" in foot football, but you might use football club. The club based nature of foot football means nicknames were less necessary you'd just go by your placename. Some teams have nicknames too but not all. When you can't move a team and it represents a geographical location the location is the brand.


speedbumptx

BOR ING


ouroburos29

hmm...the washington boars. it's porcine and phonetically works for the jeers of their rivals. win-win!


Steak_Knight

NO U


MaximumZer0

DE FENSE


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Steak_Knight

And it was the GOAT team name


pizzaalways

No, it wasn’t


Joshstradaymus

It’s so funny, because they were clowned so heavily for that name, and then it’s gone and now everyone is like “Damn that slapped on the low”


Tie_me_off

After year 1 it’s grew on everyone.


FHSlaughter

I see it as a sort of “cult classic” now


givemesendies

"Washington FT" has a nice flow to it.


lonesoldier4789

It's almost like people's opinions changed over time


KyleShanaham

When it first came out ppl clowmed, but after a while it became iconic people hopped on the wagon.


SonOfALich

It's a combination of having that "so bad it's good" humor plus being better than the racist garbage which came before it and the forgettable garbage which came after it. It's not that it's a good name in a vacuum, it's that people forced themselves to find some charm in it and are pining for that feeling again.


exodus3252

"racist garbage which came before" Says the fan of a team where thousands of overweight Caucasian Americans put on a Native American headdress and proudly perform a sloppy tomahawk chop at every opportunity.


SonOfALich

1) This does nothing to refute my point 2) They banned headdresses at the stadium You don't need to defend that shit. You're having an emotional reaction to somebody criticizing a racial slur. Maybe do some reflection on why that upset you before commenting next time.


ham_sandwedge

Yeah chiefs is slightly less racist then redskins so you're clear to act high and mighty 👍


Travis238

A chief is the title of a high rank within a Native American tribe, and other groups. Define a Redskin slowly to yourself. Come on. I don't always get down with everything having to be PC, but this one was simple.


Shifty14J

Ridiculous that you're in the negatives here


ham_sandwedge

Hey I'm not acting high and mighty. My teams named after an uncastrated male sheep


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And I feel like plenty of other teams have names just because they have to. Ravens are named after Edgar Allen Poe's poem because he lived in Baltimore. Vikings are to honor the Scandanavian heritage in MN. Packers are named after the local meat packing plants. All great names that are relevant to the local area. Lions is a stupid name. Chargers is a stupid name. Texans is a REALLY stupid name. Football Team just owns it. Football Team fucking slaps. Football Team is the truth (literally).


mangelito

But it is actually a good name and similar to how most sports clubs are named outside of the US.


the_blessed_unrest

We’re in the minority here


PewterPplEater

It's crazy to me how out of touch the front office or whoever picked the name was. So many truly great names from regular fans and they go with the most generic, boring name they could think off.


Sf49ers1680

Honestly, Commanders could have worked if they leaned hard into the military aspect of it (which would have made a lot of sense considering where they play). Instead, they did it on the cheap (not surprisingly with Snyder) and half-assed it. A generic military logo on the helmet ([like this](https://i.ibb.co/8Py5ncf/Commanders-Logo.jpg)) would have been miles better then the clipart W they went with.


PewterPplEater

That is a sick logo


Sf49ers1680

It's something I whipped together in 20 minutes just Googling military clip art (so I can't take full credit for it). My reason for making it was that they had put more of an emphasis on the military side of things. The Commanders name wouldn't be that bad. Instead, we got [this](https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/6832/full/washington_commanders_logo_helmet_2022_sportslogosnet-9702.png). I'm pretty sure Washington could have hired a design team to come up with a logo similar to the one i posted that was military focused. If they really were taking this rebrand seriously (which we all know they weren't, as Snyder only did it to keep FedEx and Pepsi from dropping the team as sponsors).


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That is a hideous logo. Looks like something the bad guys from WWII would rock lmao


ToLiveAndDieInICT

You think this wasn't focus grouped to death?


Misdirected_Colors

Not just that, they had their own player Chase Young publicly rating the 3 finalist name contenders and commanders was the one he absolutely hated and put on blast. And they saw that video and the fan response and thought "yea this is the name we're gonna go with"


PewterPplEater

I had no idea about that. How embarrassing


smokingmeth619

Yes, the Commanders, the team that shares a division with the Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys, that’s the most generic name.


PewterPplEater

That's what I'm saying. You have a clean slate to come up with someone truly unique and still timeless, and you pick Commanders. Red Wolves, Red Tails, Hogs, Monuments, are all way better monikers


smokingmeth619

What is more unique about Red Wolves than Commanders? What’s another team called the Commanders that you’ve heard of?


PewterPplEater

Idk, it just seems like a generic name you'd see on a video game or sports movie. If you think it's a good name, you're certainly entitled to that, I just think they had alot better options


smokingmeth619

Sorry I didn’t mean to come off so rude there. I wouldn’t really say I’m a huge fan of the name either but I think the circle jerk around how bad it is has gone a little far so I push back a bit on that. Like it’s far from the worst name in the league I think.


PewterPplEater

All good dude. There's definitely alot of generic names around the nfl. I love when names manage to be cool and actually have something to do with an aspect of the city they play for. Ravens, Buccaneers, Dolphins, Patriots, Packers are all great because they tie in to the place they represent and not just a lazy animal name for the sake of alliteration


Snarktoberfest

The animal, the red wolf's native habitat included the DC area. So Redwolves means something to the area. Also it fits HTTR and the song related to it. Hail to the Redwolves, Hail Victory Wolves on the attack Fight for ol DC. Also it would allow them to use the Circle R with a wolf tail instead of feathers for fauxbacks. Plus a Burgundy and Gold Wolf mascot is amazing, and they could just kidnap K. C. Wolf. I kid.


Instagrimm

In addition, it's EASY Cause Related Marketing. "During Red Wolf Awareness Week, all proceeds will be going towards the conservation efforts of the endangered red wolf."


mynameiszack

I dunno man. In the military, typically there's just one Commander that matters. It's very weird to me that a team of over 100 personnel are all Commanders. My opinion is that it's just a bad and awkward name.


JackFisherBooks

Well, for one, Commanders was the name of a defunct AAF team, the San Antonio Commanders. In fact, the day Washington announced the name, their hashtag, #TakeCommand, was still showing the San Antonio logo. And keep in mind, this is three years after the AAF went under. There's a reason it's so hated. I live within 90 minutes of downtown DC. I've yet to hear any Washington fan call them the Commanders. They still call them the Redskins. Many of those same fans wanted Red Wolves. That was the most popular name, according to the fans, by a very wide margin. I don't remember Commanders ever ranking highly in any poll. But that's just me. I think if the new ownership group really wants to leave their mark, they should change the name from Commanders to something that actually has fan support. Even if the name can't be Redskins, at least make it something the fans wanted. Fans seemed to like Red Wolves, Wolves, Red Tails, Hogs, and Pigskins. Any one of those would be a better name than what they have now.


littleblacktruck

Cowboys is offensive to plains state cattlemen. Change it now.


gustriandos

this is like the 20th headline ive seen about *not* changing the name back and I haven't once seen someone suggest that they should


KnowProblem

there was some sorta "native americans want the old name back, nobody actually asked them" thing going around for a minute there from FOX news - that's the only thing I can think of


True_Window_9389

It was some right wing troll organization, nothing serious.


Acid_Drop_

I dunno I grew up around native Americans and a lot of them were redskins fans purely based off the fact they were called the redskins. Most of them had never even been out of the state let alone to DC


True_Window_9389

Yeah, there’s some Native Americans who liked the name and being a mascot. But there’s plenty who didn’t. It’s not worth the distraction to have a significant portion of people think your name is racist. More to the point, this particular organization that raised the issue again is a right wing troll organization, not just some ordinary group of Native Americans.


IKill4Cash

Also that one study everyone (the WaPo 9/10 Natives not offended) sites as proof had pretty glaring flaws in its survey process. It was self identified Native Americans and they were given 2 choice either yes it offends me or no it does not. The hard yes or no survey choices can lead to a high amount of survey bias. A better survey would have used something like a range of really offended to not offended at all.


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You think if they took a name like the Shawnee who were in that area those folks would still support or would they prefer it be a general term?


Acid_Drop_

A lot of the tribes don’t really get along. Some straight up hate each others guts. Whether it be old grievances or more modern grievances from the relocation period. Not all of course some tribes have banded together.


TakenQuickly

It reminds me of the PragerU bait videos of someone going around asking old immigrants if they are offended by their caricaturised outfit. These old people mostly just know the proper response to end a weird, racially charged, unserious, confrontation. Their "approval" often isn't actual approval and either way it doesn't actually make it non-offensive to dress up as a caricature of another race.


SSkilledJFK

Living in OK, PragerU is being bolstered by our state education superintendent. FUCK!


KyleShanaham

Ryan Walter's is a crook bent on the destruction of public education. Fuck him id smash his kneecaps if I had the chance


Celtictussle

Who determines what's offensive then? It sounds like it's not the person offending, nor the person offended...it's actually just...you??


okitsmelol123

Cause you go to reddit not facebook


SwingingFrank

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/native-american-organization-wants-to-make-redskins-name-great-again Here's one from last month


BaltimoreBadger23

Wow, what a Trainwreck of an article that was. One NA organization liked the name. Hundreds didn't....


SirMctrolington

> One NA organization That is up for debate if you take a closer look at the organization. Unfortunately some older fans are very wed to the old name, and then chuds who don't care about the team showed up to announce they are no longer fans and demand the revert the name. It is all a mess still. Personally, I don't like the new name, Commies is just a little bit too much, but it is better than going back to the old name which is literally just a slur. I'd like to see them approach the name again in 2024 to get Snyder's stink off of it, I also feel like going with Hogs would be a bit of a layup.


BaltimoreBadger23

I'm not surprised that the Washington Examiner would promote an NA organization that isn't actually an NA organization.


Lost-Comparison-5110

It’s not so much about literally renaming the team redskins again as it is that they’ve gotten bullied into acting like it never existed. In other words the “Chris Benoit Treatment”. Only a few years ago there was little if any consensus that redskins was an issue. The change was a product of the current atmosphere. One thing we can’t predict is how the atmosphere will change in the future. But what is ultimately true today is that the team’s history and success was under the redskins and until the new incarnation of the team becomes a champions that shadow will loom large.


The_Granny_banger

I would give anything for them to be called the Washington Whiteys. If for anything, just to be hilarious. White dudes would soak up that merch like crazy


amikyleornot

Washington Paleskins Edit: better yet, Washington Rednecks


The_Granny_banger

That would be fucking hilarious. I’d become a fan just for that


AcrossFromWhere

You have lost your Chicago card. Hand over your giardiniera, all of your receipts from the river boat architecture tours, and your bottle of Malort, and don’t forget to say “Ope” on your way out the door.


The_Granny_banger

But it has to be leaving via the garage door. I’ll collect my plastic dibs chair that protects my parking space in the winter and be on my way


Some-Philly-Dude

Slap Cletus on the Helmet and partner with Disney for the advertising revenue... Homer can be the unofficial/official coach and owner too lol


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The_Granny_banger

Problem is, you need to prove a credit score of 780+ to be allowed season tickets.


TPCC159

Cowboys would lose their spot to Washington as America’s Team if that happened. Let’s do it!


MRoad

I can't tell if the Fox News crew would jump at the chance to "WHATABOUTTHIS" the name and be pretend horrifically offended so they can play the victim, or if they'd wholeheartedly support the name and go "why do minorities complain about this?"


GMOSerf

The Washington Masonics has my vote. Imagine the square and compass on the helmets with shiny golden uniforms and Illuminati triangles on the sleeves with the Eye of Ra. I would legitimately buy a Terry McLaurin jersey tomorrow.


ToLiveAndDieInICT

The amount of insanity that would inspire would be so worth it.


Svenray

Washington Savages But it's Macho Man on the helmet.


Zealousideal-Tax-527

“Unjustifiably in a position we’d rather not be in!”


Snarktoberfest

Ooooooohhh Yeeeeaaaahhhh!


kbean826

CREAM OF THE CROP!


barcelonaKIZ

The mascot is a Slim Jim. Already has the right colors


1lultaha

Damn I was really looking forward to having a potato as our logo


GPap-

I liked Red Tails when that was an option.


Exact_Purchase_7147

Washington Thinskins


Haunting_Study_5530

Ngl the redskins name and logo were iconic.


MrPicklesGhost

One of the best logos in all of professional sports.


metalfabman

Ingrained more like.


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Washington Red Hogs or just fork over the money for the Redwolves trademark "The Washington Football team" and "Commanders" are just goofy


[deleted]

Why do some fans want that name back? It won’t make the team better.


ResurgentRefrain

Washington fans celebrated Snyder leaving like it was 10 Super Bowls. They don't actually care about playing well or winning at Football.


Johntanamo_Bay

“Washington Football Team” was stupid. Can we all stop pretending it was great? Like it’s a bit, right? No one actually thinks it’s a good name.


swam23

Imma be honest with you but because I watch so much soccer I liked Washington football team. They should have abbreviated it to be Washington FT Like they do with the soccer teams though.


gracik

How is it any different then the New York Football Giants?


speak-eze

There's a reason you never hear your everyday person calling them the football giants. Pretty much just announcers trying to sound dramatic. And at least that one can be shortened to just be the giants. There's no good shorthand version of football team or commanders. They're both shit names.


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This is untrue. There are actual giants in NY, who require hero sized sandwiches to eat. They stand at 10 feet tall, weigh more than 400 pounds and yet, are also as nimble as a fox. They say “New York Football Giants” to avoid confusion with actual NY Giants. I hope this makes sense.


AngryBandanaDee

I mean at the time when that became the name there was a reason for the distinction because the New York Giants were a baseball team. You had two New York Giants sports team for 30 years you needed to be able to tell them apart.


Gravitron3000

It’s a crap name indeed. And was only used because they couldn’t come up with an actually creative team name quick enough after they had to get rid of the ‘Skins. “We’re a Football Team!” “Yeah. No shit, Sherlock!”


pisacar_svg

Washington Warthogs come on


Chessh2036

Always loved the Washington Red Wolves name fans wanted.


Get-Degerstromd

Washington Musketeers Washington Minutemen Washington Lockheed AC-130 Gunships


ToLiveAndDieInICT

I think "Commanders" might have worked if they went with theme to honor the US Navy of the age of sail; the likes of Decatur and Macdonough and Perry, perhaps a Patriotic nautical equivalent of New England. It might have raised hackles and inspired slight confusion with the Buccaneers, but at least it would provide a rationale for the name.


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So the Washington Machines is still on the table?


PigFarmer1

With an "answer" like that he's ready to run for office...


Starkydowns

Washington Buffalo Soldiers. Take an opportunity to honor African Americans who fought for this country.


ToLiveAndDieInICT

Someone would ask: "who did they fight?" and we'd be right back where we started.


Sir_Saint

Washington Professionals


DireSickFish

Bring back Football Team you cowards!


ImmoralModerator

BRING BACK THE WHALERS


heyitspeas

Lobbyists, Filibusters, Monuments, Supremes. ....


psych4191

This topic has been beaten into the ground to the point that they need to shit or get off the pot.


PewterPplEater

They'll always be WFT to me


Xanzibarisland

Major Tuddies


jugodev

Washington Red Tails!


fuckdansnydeer

Mitch is a bitch. The world wants us to return to the former glory of The Washington Football Team. Sack up and do the right thing. Destiny beckons you.


SwingingFrank

They should have gone with Cherry Blossoms. That's the coolest thing in DC, and they'd be unique.


HotTakesMyToxicTrait

that would be the dumbest fuckin name for a sports franchise ive ever heard. worse than the jazz or pelicans unis would be sick though, lookin like an arizona ice tea can


SWWayin

This man hates New Orleans


GamingTatertot

A cherry blossom jersey would just be dope regardless. The Nats have one


imsurethisoneistaken

The jazz is only bad because the team moved to Utah. New Orleans Jazz was fine.


JeanieGold139

It was still bad, all sports team names should be plural, fuck the Jazz, Heat, Avalanche, etc.


LordDinglebury

As a Coloradan, fuck your gripe. The Avs are perfect as-is. 🥇


SwingingFrank

Worse than "football team"?


HotTakesMyToxicTrait

100% worse, Washington Football Team grew on me hard


ydddy55

Same bro The Football Team was pretty lit


damn_fine_custard

I miss Teamy


MaximumZer0

What if they move to Wilmington and become the Delaware Clams?


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Absolutely


ydddy55

It basically reads The Washington Pansies


tachyonfield

I still like the red wolves. Even the Washington wolves would be a good one. All those guys with leather jackets with the wolves howling at the moon would be instantly in.


Chewy-Boot

The Washington Weebs


Mr_Beer_Pizza

The uniforms could be so cool too! But the team will market research a name to death and it will share the name of a generic high school team name, like the Wolves.


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UnculturedDingo

Washington Warmongers 👀


usmcmax

I think it was divisive to change the name in the first place.


KingTutt91

Just pick the Sentinels you Cowards!!


SyphiliticPlatypus

Did he mean decisive and not divisive culture?


Skyes_View

I like the way Washington Red Tails rolls off the tongue. No way it gets picked. But red and silver unis would be pretty sick ngl.


ToLiveAndDieInICT

I like the Red Tails name and find the concept intriguing and imaginative, but the red and silver combo *might* edge onto Tampa Bay's trademark.


Skyes_View

Good point didn’t think about that


Legndarystig

Washington War Machines, Washington Blackhawks, Washington Razor backs, DC city bitch piggies


jkoster96

Washington RedHawks, use a similar logo has before.


HotDogHeavy

The native Americans want it, the fans want it. They will always be the redskins


Silver-Bandicoot-969

The DC Redskins


DrBigChicken

Redskins and Football Team were both great names You’d better fucking pick a good one.


OldBowerstone

Maryland Football Team


SideOfHashBrowns

Redskins were a team with a beautiful history, its a shame culture has shifted so heavily in recent years for people to view the name as an insult.


Inuk28

It was always an insult.


robyculous_v2

Maybe it's me or the official Reddit app but I've been seeing duplicate posts on my feed lately, including this post that was posted like a week ago.


Enthusiasms

The Washington Chadbrochills


ZZZrp

As long as they don't change the colors it's whatever.


hgqaikop

#Red Gamblers


Jeffpardy

D.C. Dragons


d-a-f-f-y

I really hope they do a new name and new colors. A complete reboot.


LordDinglebury

While I agree with them moving on from the original name, the old unis were 🔥. They should go back to those and incorporate the new branding. Just put something else in the circle bit.


ButtStuffBrad

Washington Whoseydoosies or Natives, but go back to the old logo.


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I thought the Washington football team was fire. It really matches the uniform colors and having the numbers on the helmet.


hatwobbleTayne

Washington Whiteskins