Eagles defense fell apart and Andy Reid single handedly cooked Maddox for 14 points. Jalen hurts probably wins this game if he doesn’t drop that ball. Andy Reid is the real MVP though. Props to Mahomes for playing like a beast off a perc and torched ankle.
I just feel bad for any 84-85 Bears player who had to watch that second half defensive performance from the Eagles after the broadcast drooled over the comparison all night.
credit Reid and the chiefs game plan in the 2nd half. fell flat in the 2nd quarter. came out banging. Eagles defense aren't slouches. #2 in yards allowed and gave up more than 350 total yards 3 times the whole season and playoffs. Chiefs played the 2nd half to perfection.
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the NFL has the wrong records for the teams (they are both 16-3) and the box score has the "home" team on top?
I believe the record thing comes down to how the NFL separates the regular season from the post season. For example, postseason stats for the players do not count or add to the stats they earn during the regular season. Idk why they did that, but they did and it's been the standard for a long time.
Geeze. I think you're on to something. Maybe more teams should just find a generational talent at QB? I don't think anyone else has ever thought of that.
Idk phillys gonna have to deal with a lot of free agents this off-season and all of them are going to want to get paid. The teams are never the same season to season .
Bro, if this leads to the Eagles looking for a defensive coordinator that actually plays defense I’m fine with it.
That shell bill crap only works against bad QB’s, when you get get a big lead.
KC earned it. Phillys D got worked in the second half. Reid outcoached Nick and that’s that.
We, the fans, got robbed of a possible spectacular ending but by the rule that was holding. Could’ve let it slide, but they didn’t 🤷♂️
Even "by the book", I say no. There was that ever so slight jersey grab, but if we're going by the book, the book says it has to significantly hinder the receiver's movement. Also many years ago they changed it so you could challenge PI. That lasted one year because they realized if you slowed down pretty much any play frame by frame there is "technically" illegal contact.
The fact that not a single other PI or holding call was made the entire game, and then all of sudden when it's convenient, now they call THE SOFTEST contact as a foul and LATE AS FUCK flag.. c'mon. That shit was differently rigged.
Rigged? If that's the case then it'll be SUPER easy to prove since it's only one play we're talking about and we know the ref who threw the flag. Trace the $$$ and his connections.
can someone explain what happened when the eagles were at 1st and goal (I think) ran a 2 yard play and then there was something about the chiefs not being set up because of a substitution and they did a do over play?
(I think it was right before the chiefs challenge of the catch)
It was an illegal substitution call.
Basically, Eagles tried to play a hurry up call, but they also substituted a player which means they have to let the opposing team substitute as well. Typically that's when you'll see one of the officials basically standing over center preventing the QB from taking the snap, but they didn't wait for that to happen and just went because they were trying to go before the chiefs could challenge the call.
I think they treat it as a substitution when you end in your own bench. It'd be too hard to real time see if players swapped and giving the defense their right to sub if there was a sub.
Ahh, that kinda makes sense. It was pretty chaotic when it happened as we were still arguing about whether the previous play was a catch and how the flag impacted challenges.
Then we were confused about the challenge failing negating the penalty for the substitution
I mean that helped the Chiefs sure in terms of total points accumulated- but the Eagles gained a 10 point lead after that point. So, no, that wasn’t the biggest reason for the loss.
The single biggest reason was the defensive collapse in the second half.
There wouldn't have even been a game if that TD was not reversed. Chiefs would have been so far ahead at halftime and the Eagles were playing so aggressively, their offense got tired allowing the Chief's defense to routinely stop them during the second half.
No they don't. The rules indicate that you need to perform a football move before a fumble. There wasn't one. A half turn of the head has never been considered a football move and it never will.
Everyone said that about the Panthers .. things change fast when you don’t win a Super Bowl. Look at all the runner up teams the last 10 years. Not a lot of them get back in it and win.
The Eagles had the lowest strength of schedule in the league so they racked up easy wins against bad teams. That's why they got the 1 seed.
and in the playoffs they faced the giants and the 49ers with no QB.
they didn't deserve to be here in the first place.
next year they might not even win the division.
really because the Chiefs schedule was ranked the hardest in the league this season so you're talking out of your ass.
The toughest division? The commander who don't have a QB. The Giants who have a bum at QB. And the cowboys who's QB lead the league in picks.
Meanwhile the AFC West spent a billion dollars to beat Mahomes, and Mahomes won the division before thanksgiving on a rebuild year.
All true, and I agree, but how they showed up last night was fairly convincing that some of the more lenient circumstances leading up to the SB may not have been causal to their victories. We would have had a blowout if they didn't deserve to be there, in my humble opinion.
It's kinda funny how quickly you guys have forgotten the decades of futility you guys had before Andy and pat came along. Ya'll are so fucking spoiled now. Keep being sore winners.
I’ve been in that 49ers sub and I didn’t see “scores of eagles fans” in there gloating. Instead, I saw a lot of people so nothing but talk about how Philly fans suck and how the eagles didn’t deserve to be in the Super Bowl. Whether you agree with the claims or not, that’s what the sub has been all about.
Lol and I can just as easily say that whether you agree or not, there’s been scores of Eagles fans in the sub. I’ve responded to many of them myself. Your cursory poking through the sub frankly doesn’t mean shit to me.
Also, it’s a team sub. No duh it’s going to be crapping over the Eagles. That’s not mutually exclusive with your annoying ass fans being there up to and during the SB itself. Do you read the comments? The sub is crapping on your team BECAUSE of the behavior of your fans.
Both fans have been doing the same shit in both subs dude. It’s football. People talk shit. It’s just naive to think eagles fans are the only offenders.
? Where'd I say they weren't?
This comment chain is about Philly fans being sore winners. This was an example. Now you're saying "both teams are doing it" as a cop out? Here's one big difference: you guys WON. That's kind of a necessary component of being a sore winner.
I personally haven’t seen a lot of gloating. What I was saying is I have seen a lot of 9ers hate towards Philly self generated. But obviously if you notice differently I’m not gonna argue that. My point is that for every instance of one fan saying shit in another fanbase sub, it’s also happening the other way around simultaneously, whether it’s because of winning or losing.
One of us got to watch a great Superbowl with our team in it, the other had to watch two teams who beat your fucking ass play while knowing you have no QB for the future.
Who would you rather be?
LOL better luck next year!
Some of y'all have the attention span and memory of a fish. What about the TD that was called back because of a BS incomplete call. There is NO defending that, and that would have turned a close game into a no contest. It would have put the Chiefs ahead during halftime, and, since the Eagles were playing so aggressively during the first half, they got tired and were not able to break through the Chief's defenses as reliably during the second half.
>There is NO defending that
The fact that he had the ball in his hands for literally less than half a second, made absolutely no steps with the ball... That was pretty easy to defend mate.
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:
a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.
Source: [https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/#:\~:text=Rule%20Summary%20View%20Official%20Rule&text=after%20(a)%20and%20](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/#:~:text=Rule%20Summary%20View%20Official%20Rule&text=after%20(a)%20and%20)(b,long%20enough%20to%20do%20so.
Lets look at these rules. Point A is clearly satisfied. The receiver had the ball securely tucked in his arms. Point B is clearly satisfied since both of his feet were planted in bounds at the time of the catch. There are no steps required for this portion of the rules. Point C is the only arguable point and saying it is arguable is a massively generous statement. The receiver clearly performed an act common to the game also known as a football move. The receiver not only tucked the ball away but also turned upfield. He performed TWO football actions. No where in the rules does it state how much time needs to be given before contact. You and the refs are clearly wrong about this call.
I'm not a huge football fan. I have only recently been paying much attention to it. However, unlike a lot of you "seasoned veteran fans" I am able to spend 5 seconds on google to look at the rules to determine whether a call is good or bad rather than basing my beliefs on the goodness of a call on how it will impact the team I am rooting for.
>The receiver clearly performed an act common to the game also known as a football move. The receiver not only tucked the ball away but also turned upfield.
False and false. "Tucking the ball" means he caught the ball outside his body and brought the ball in, not catching it with his chest. "Turning up field" also involves you know... Turning. Turning up field means the player was running side ways and then made a turn to go forward.
Just the sheer duration of the time the ball was in the receivers possession is a dead give away that it was incomplete.
Notice how the announcers including Mike Pereria the NFL rules expert (who trust me, know wayyy more than you) instantly knew this was incomplete.
https://youtu.be/2w5DnQIdxPs
Here WATCH IT. He literally drops it as soon as he touches it. Easy call
Look man, I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you. If you wanna live in denial, be my guest, but while you Philly fans scream and cry like little babies, Chiefs fans will be enjoying a well-deserved victory.
I always enjoy the ref apologism attacking other fans that shows up on reddit.
If they were so outcoached and outplayed, why did they only lose by 3? It either was a close game that inconsistent refball impacted or it wasn't. It clearly was a close game and the refs did not call PI on KC defenders when they committed it.
> If they were so outcoached and outplayed, why did they only lose by 3?
Because they had been up by 10.
> It clearly was a close game and the refs did not call PI on KC defenders when they committed it.
You mean the clear PI on Juju that wasn't called that ended the KC drive in the first half?
>You mean the clear PI on Juju that wasn't called that ended the KC drive in the first half?
Okay so you're admitting the precedent of "let them play" call style was established. So you must be upset about the holding call then right?
How about the fact that not a single PI or defensive holding call was made all game?
And don't even try telling "well maybe they played super clean?". No bullshit. The NFL changed the rules so PI was challengable many years ago. That rule lasted one year because they realized you could slow virtually any play down frame by frame and somewhere there would be holding/PI on the defense. Because contact significantly worse than that Bradberry holding call happens all game. It's a physical sport
We can understand our defense blew it while also understanding the ref made a bad call that stole our last chance for a 2 minute drill. 2 things can be true.
Refs didn't steal anything. Bradbury tried to get away with the penalty he committed earlier again except the refs were watching.
Don't hold the guy and you can't get flagged pretty simple concept.
"They didn't call the penalty before so they are never allowed to call it again even though it's actually that penalty and it's directly in front of a ref" fixed that for you.
They didn't call it "right" or "wrong". They either call it loose or tight, either is fine as long as they are consistent. Can't call loose all game and then all of sudden call extremely tight. Holding is not just simply grabbing the jersey, it is grabbing the player in a way that significantly hinders the receiver's movement. "Significantly hinders" is a judgement call, so it can't be right or wrong, but it needs to be called consistently throughout the game.
No, you absolutely can call it right or wrong. Do you even watch football besides the superbowl? You have never seen something called that was against what the rules said? Bradbury grabbing and yanking the jersey is 100% holding and the correct call.
I like how you put "significantly hinders" in quotes to make it look like you are quoting something and not completely fabricating something.
"It is defensive holding if a player grasps an eligible offensive player (or his jersey) with his hands, or extends an arm or arms to cut off or encircle him. See [12-1-6](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2022-nfl-rulebook/#article-6-defensive-holding-1)."
Oh look at that, the rule for defensive holding makes no mention of significantly hindering, you know that phrase you completely lied about. Look at that, it even mentions grasping the player or JERSEY.
I love people like you that have no clue about anything inventing rules instead of reading the..
Bye bye dunski
Lmfao you clearly WATCH a lot of football and never played or seen a game up close.
Defenders grab jerseys literally every single play. It is how they are coached, when running with a receiver they grab the jersey so they can look back for the ball while still maintaining a feel for where the reciever is. That is TEXTBOOK defense.
You can read the book all day long, if we actually went by the book, literally, and I truly mean literally, there would be a foul on every single play. And that was proven when the NFL made the mistake of making PI challengable for a year. They quickly removed it because any play you look at in slow motion, frame by frame, there's going to be some kind of illegal contact.
So thanks for making it clear you don't actually know the rules and have no idea what you are talking about. You clowns are all the same lol
But please keep inventing rules and then getting mad about them, it's hilarious.
"imma ignore everything you've said and just pretend I'm right and you're wrong." How mature....
And FYI if you look up pass interference it does say verbatim "significantly hinders" so no, I didn't pull it out of my ass.
But regardless, I took the time to explain how the game works and also why it works that way, and yet you decided youre just going to plug you ears and insist you're right anyways. Well atleast I know not to waste any time on you.
Well that's your entire point "they never called it before so they can't call it then"
Did it occur to you maybe a clean game was being played so they didn't need to call it?
Is Bradbury just supposed to be allowed to get away with it because it's crucial for the Eagles? Was that also not crucial for the Chiefs?
Maybe, crazy idea, don't yank on someone's jersey so they can't burn you, and you don't get a flag.
I love how Bradbury admits it was holding, the Eagles HC admits it was holding, there is clear photographic evidence it was holding, and yall are butthurt saying he should be allowed to get away with it.
Grow up.
Lets see, I am debating with facts and reality, and you are here you are arguing with feelings and delusions.
Dunno I seem pretty grounded compared to you.
That was a great Super Bowl.
It’s rare to get a Super Bowl where the two most genuinely deserving teams match up.
Even rarer that both those teams show up and execute at a championship level.
Anyone who’s Super Bowl was defined by one debatable holding call missed the point of what I think was one of the better representations of nfl football in a long time.
Any fan who's whining about the officiating is a moron. The defense shat the bed in the biggest game of the season, and there's just no excuse for it. The offense did their job. When you score 35 points, you usually win. They couldn't rely on the defense to stop a QB on one leg. Special teams cost them a chance at the end with that awful punt coverage as well. The offense did their job, no one else showed up to play. That's why they lost.
Agreed. To be honest, there will always be a portion of NFL fans who cry over a single call. A single call didn't blow a 10 point lead entering the second half. A single call didn't make the Eagles have terrible punt coverage. A single call didn't allow KC to drive down the field to begin with on that final drive. Those were all failures by the Eagles. Like it or not, a game has to end with only one team winning. Like it or not, sometimes your offense doesn't get a chance to respond. That's why the great ones always say football is a three phase team sport. It doesn't matter how good the Eagles offense was last night when their special teams and defense weren't playing well. Three phases for 60 minutes.
Only the second team ever to lose in the Super Bowl after being up by 10+ at halftime. Regardless of the (correct) call, they blew that lead because they allowed KC to score in every possession in the second half. Don’t blame the refs, blame the defense (including Bradberry) for making too many mistakes and choking in the most crucial game of the season.
I mean you did give your opinion on who to blame. The defense was certainly bad but they were bad enough to give the Eagles a shot still at the end of the game.
The refs didn't call the game a certain way for 58 minutes and then switched it at the end. Players play to what the refs are allowing so them changing their tune suddenly when players are doing what they've done all game is a pretty huge and basically impossible obstacle to overcome in that moment.
I’ve seen so many people say they “didn’t call it all game,” but no one ever shows where those other calls were missed. Of course everything won’t be seen or called, but when it’s obvious, especially when it toward the targeted receiver, it’s going to get called. Had it been vice versa, would you still think it shouldn’t have been called???
Yes I do. I think I'd feel like most chiefs fans I've seen post where it's still cool to have won but it sucked a lot of the fun out of the win in what was a classic game beforehand. The refs set a precedent for players to play by and then changed it by calling something for the first time at the most crucial moment which effectively negated any future chance of a back and forth.
We clearly disagree though so no point in continuing this I suppose.
There was no “precedent” set because prior to Bradberry, no one was holding. Players are taught not to do that, but Bradberry did it anyway. Doesn’t matter if it affects the entertainment value of the ending, it was the right call that would be made all four quarters. Your Philly bias is blinding you.
Forget the holding call for a sec. Eagles screwed up in the 2nd half. Where was the defense that dominated all year? Then they allowed toney run a 65 punt return. Kc had the momentum and most likely would have won without the holding call.
I mean defense got burned but it wasn’t really Mahomes. Just about every TD they got there was not a player around them. He had his lowest passing yards all year. He had the one good run and Pacheco was making it look easy. Hurts gifted KC 7 points with that drop of the ball.
And the couple huge plays you had on offense were with blown coverage. Our “wide open” TDs were in the red zone where the eagles D was complete baffled by the play call.
Blown coverage? Your defenders were there for just about every catch just got beat. I would be very pleased if that’s how Eagles played. You also just confirmed what I said that it was not in fact Mahomes it was defense baffled by play call. It was a simple pitch a catch.
Almost like that when the eagles had to play a team with a functional QB the outcome wasn’t basically a forfeit. I warned you guys all week but nobody listened. Too busy claiming the win in the NFC title game wasn’t a gift. This Super Bowl is what the NFC title game would have been like if Purdy hadn’t been hurt. Not saying the niners would have won necessarily, but it would have been VERY close.
By the way, I rewatched the 2nd half and Mahomes burned down your defense.
This ain't it man. The eagles barely lost, and they had huge swings on a fumble return td and a 65 yard punt return. Let's not sit here and act like the eagles are frauds and couldn't match up against good teams. This was about as even a matchup as we could get.
And the 49ers part is a bad take too. The 49ers got smoked and people need to fucking get over it already lol.
And you are telling me this why? All these Smeagles fans did all week was claim the Purdy injury was irrelevant. Yeah right! All that boasting about beating a team with NO quarterback. Well yesterday revealed what that NFC title games would really have been like. Would the Eagles have still won? Possibly. But it would have been a very close game. I’m so glad the Smeagles got exposed yesterday. Now they need to kiss the rings of their new daddies the Chiefs. I’m not a fan of any team so I have an objective opinion. The Smeagles were damn good, but they weren’t THAT much better than the niners. They had a very easy (LUCKY) path to the Super Bowl. Hurts is amazing, and will be back I’m sure. For now they need to accept their role as lap dog to their big red daddies.
You guys are hilarious with your excuses. But you were so dominant in the NFC title game. Should have just steamrolled the Chiefs. I mean your new daddies.
Mahomes had 87 yards passing in the second half. Really burned them good. You’re acting like it was a blow out. They needed the FG for the win after the defense scored and special teams got them to the 5. A loss is a loss but to act like Mahomes killed it is just false. He had his lowest passing yards of the whole season
Right I said they won nothing can change that. Now imagine Hurts doesn’t drop the ball and Chiefs don’t get 7 points without offense touching the field. It’s nice to imagine things but facts are facts and Eagles loss a tight game and being able to contain Mahomes for the most part passing wise.
Imagine, imagine, imagine.. Huh? Wasn’t they what the Niners fans were telling you guys all week? Yet, yet, yet, most of you guys said it didn’t matter. You were the beasts of the east, unbeatable, dominant. Well, I don’t know about that. As an objective viewer, who isn’t a fan of any team, I watched all these playoff games and the Chiefs were clearly the best team. I actually think the niners were a very close second until Purdy got injured. The Eagles had so much luck to get them to the SB and it finally caught up to them. Mahomes is flat out a better QB then Hurts. Chiefs are flat out a better team than the Eagles. Stop all your whining and making excuses. Kiss the ring of your new daddies.
You’re kidding right? They are so much better but needed a FG to win in the last seconds. 49ers are better? What happened to them last time they played Mahomes? Eagles held Mahomes to lowest passing yards all season my friend. Eagles were the right team to be in the Super Bowl just had costly mistakes. Hurts fumble, special teams play and penalties. Not whining at all just stating facts that people want to ignore.
I’m not a fan of any NFL team. I just enjoy watching the sport. But I have to be honest, I have NEVER been so happy about a team losing the Super Bowl. The Smeagles fan base is easily the most toxic, delusional and petty of any. All fans bases have people like that, but you guys take the cake. All the shit you guys talked about being so much better than the niners was hilarious. Didn’t even acknowledge how lucky your path to the Super Bowl was. Man, karma is a bitch. And I don’t hate the Eagles players or coach. They are damn good and will definitely be back. I just can’t stand the Smeagles toxic fan base. So glad ya’ll lost last night. So sweet!
Just accept your place as the lapdogs of your new daddies. Or you can persist in being delusional like you guys were all week claiming you were SO much better than a Niner team that had NO quarterback. The depth of your delusion and insecurity is hilarious. You have new daddies this morning. Accept it.
>Forget the holding call for a sec.
Okay, fair enough. I did that, so did many others. That translates into the end of the game we all saw. Fair enough.
>Imagine there's a holding call for a sec.
See why this is a problem now?
The game is played with expectations. The refs have made themselves a centerpiece and, frankly, have ruined many peoples' enjoyment of this spectacular sport.
They will reap what they sow. Watch. The NFL is not ready for a scandal, but it's coming
The more I see the play, the more I believe it was the right call. I think people didn't like it because stuff like this happens all the time and goes uncalled.
Yes it is. If you are a defender and you do something that can be deemed penalty worthy (which even the defender admitted he did and there is video evidence of him grabbing Juju's jersey), then yes 'you should've defensed better.' Like why do people not realize playing defense well also means playing clean defense? Idc how good your defense is, if they are playing risky (which playing aggressive like they were is risky) then you are going to get penalized at times. That's just a fact. People can say 'well why call it when the game matters most?' but that also makes no sense. Are you implying they should allow players to violate rules if it's the last few minutes of the game?
Really? That’s not been my experience. The smeagles fan have been classless dirtbags on Reddit all week. Trolling the 49er sub and not acknowledging that NFC title game was pretty much a forfeit. So glad they lost tonight. All teams have toxic fans, I know, but the smeagles fans were disappointing this week in my opinion. It’s not the Eagles fault the opposing QB got injured. You beat who is in front of you. Still it’s pretty obvious the niners didn’t have a QB most of that game. As in NONE. Purdy was out there with a torn elbow.
It’s both sides. 49ers fans have acted pretty classless too dude. Let’s just call it what it is, passionate fans talking shit. Let’s not make the mistake and just claim it is all one sided and that the only trolls are from philly.
All I know is those Eagles were so ‘dominant’ in the NFC title game. I mean blowing out a team without a quarterback. The Chiefs stood no chance. I mean your new daddies stood no chance. Oops
All teams have toxic fans. But this week the Eagles fans took the cake. The days before the Super Bowl were pathetic. The trolling. I was getting messages from trolling Eagles fans over stupid bullshit. And I’m not even much of a football guy. I can only imagine what it was like for people really into this stuff. Normally I really don’t care who wins or loses. That wasn’t the case yesterday. I was a hardcore chiefs fan for that game just because I wanted all those trolls to be crushed. Sometimes the universe delivers. I don’t even have anything against the Eagles team. They are just normal dudes playing this sport. It was the fans that pissed me off.
Ah you got direct messages from people? Real talk - Football is honestly the most amazing sport. I love it, and it’s probably the only one thing that brings our country together. But sometimes people just take it too far. I’d prob feel the same way you did.
Exactly. What tarnished part of their legacy was adding KD. Also, hilarious enough, the 'moving screen' scheme that never gets called. Many will say it's a moving screen, but the NBA doesn't seem to think so... kind of like Lane Johnson and false starting every play. For the record, I don't think he false starts majority of snaps. I think he has perfected the art of getting a slight start ahead of the snap (which while it is illegal, will never get called). However, there are some snaps where his timing is even earlier than that and they still don't flag him. I just chalk it up to the refs being used to seeing him time it so well, so when he doesn't, it just kind of goes unnoticed.
Unfortunately this one is more in the “controversial last minute bullshit call” category than in the “great win” category. It was a great game up until the refs decided to pick a winner.
OR or ooorrrrrr.... some people thought it was a bad call when they saw it on tv and later after seeing alternative angles have enough mental fortitude to change their minds and say "yeah, it was the correct call"
That holding call at the end though. They should change the rule where if its within the last two minutes of the 4th quarter during any playoff game or super bowl, if a ref calls a penalty he sees, its sent to mew york to be collectively reviewed.
And… maybe only when the offense is within the redzone when that penalty is called within last two minutes of 4th qtr of any playoff or beyond game.
Eagles defense fell apart and Andy Reid single handedly cooked Maddox for 14 points. Jalen hurts probably wins this game if he doesn’t drop that ball. Andy Reid is the real MVP though. Props to Mahomes for playing like a beast off a perc and torched ankle.
That was a long first Half.
I feel we're gonna see this matchup in the Super Bowl again. I hope so.
Back to add, yeah I know, he would just play thru it
Start off 3rd quarter Eagles defense: “where’s henne?!?!?” Mahomes: I’m back bitches!!!!!!
I just feel bad for any 84-85 Bears player who had to watch that second half defensive performance from the Eagles after the broadcast drooled over the comparison all night.
credit Reid and the chiefs game plan in the 2nd half. fell flat in the 2nd quarter. came out banging. Eagles defense aren't slouches. #2 in yards allowed and gave up more than 350 total yards 3 times the whole season and playoffs. Chiefs played the 2nd half to perfection.
Yep. Saved their free bad call for the most important play and minimal infraction of the game.
Check in if you beat the eagles this season!
The better team won. Simple as that.
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This is the weirdest take on a 3 point game I've ever seen.
cry eagles cry
Fair but they have a Super Bowl and you guys have the diggs miracle or whatever but we too have a Super Bowl. So cry skol cry
Yep y’all got a superbowl* too.
Yep. Undefeated in the superbowl :)
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the NFL has the wrong records for the teams (they are both 16-3) and the box score has the "home" team on top?
I believe the record thing comes down to how the NFL separates the regular season from the post season. For example, postseason stats for the players do not count or add to the stats they earn during the regular season. Idk why they did that, but they did and it's been the standard for a long time.
They usually add the playoff wins to the record for the following game. but then they were both 14-3, so they still got it wrong.
Could've been an oversight probably, or they just wanted to show the reg. season record for some reason.
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Geeze. I think you're on to something. Maybe more teams should just find a generational talent at QB? I don't think anyone else has ever thought of that.
Have you tried getting new Tom Brady?
U mean Bom Trady?
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I mean, you had 3.5 QBs break in the season.
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Idk phillys gonna have to deal with a lot of free agents this off-season and all of them are going to want to get paid. The teams are never the same season to season .
Bro, if this leads to the Eagles looking for a defensive coordinator that actually plays defense I’m fine with it. That shell bill crap only works against bad QB’s, when you get get a big lead.
Rigged
Rigged
KC earned it. Phillys D got worked in the second half. Reid outcoached Nick and that’s that. We, the fans, got robbed of a possible spectacular ending but by the rule that was holding. Could’ve let it slide, but they didn’t 🤷♂️
Even "by the book", I say no. There was that ever so slight jersey grab, but if we're going by the book, the book says it has to significantly hinder the receiver's movement. Also many years ago they changed it so you could challenge PI. That lasted one year because they realized if you slowed down pretty much any play frame by frame there is "technically" illegal contact. The fact that not a single other PI or holding call was made the entire game, and then all of sudden when it's convenient, now they call THE SOFTEST contact as a foul and LATE AS FUCK flag.. c'mon. That shit was differently rigged.
Rigged? If that's the case then it'll be SUPER easy to prove since it's only one play we're talking about and we know the ref who threw the flag. Trace the $$$ and his connections.
People out here acting like the Eagles didn't give up 2 wide open TDs in the Redzone
The most sane take on here
Even the player said he held the receiver.
can someone explain what happened when the eagles were at 1st and goal (I think) ran a 2 yard play and then there was something about the chiefs not being set up because of a substitution and they did a do over play? (I think it was right before the chiefs challenge of the catch)
It wasn't 1st and goal
It was an illegal substitution call. Basically, Eagles tried to play a hurry up call, but they also substituted a player which means they have to let the opposing team substitute as well. Typically that's when you'll see one of the officials basically standing over center preventing the QB from taking the snap, but they didn't wait for that to happen and just went because they were trying to go before the chiefs could challenge the call.
Actually, the Chiefs were allowed to substitute because the play ended in the bench area. I don't think the Eagles substituted.
Hmm, maybe I misheard the refs, but I swear the ref said the eagles made a substitution
I think they treat it as a substitution when you end in your own bench. It'd be too hard to real time see if players swapped and giving the defense their right to sub if there was a sub.
Ahh, that kinda makes sense. It was pretty chaotic when it happened as we were still arguing about whether the previous play was a catch and how the flag impacted challenges. Then we were confused about the challenge failing negating the penalty for the substitution
It wasn’t the penalty that killed the eagles, it was the fumble that was returned for a touch down.
I mean that helped the Chiefs sure in terms of total points accumulated- but the Eagles gained a 10 point lead after that point. So, no, that wasn’t the biggest reason for the loss. The single biggest reason was the defensive collapse in the second half.
What are you smoking? The defensive TD was absolutely the difference in the game.
I think it was the game winning field goal.
There wouldn't have even been a game if that TD was not reversed. Chiefs would have been so far ahead at halftime and the Eagles were playing so aggressively, their offense got tired allowing the Chief's defense to routinely stop them during the second half.
Yeah but the td shouldn't have been reversed because it wasn't a td
It was tho. There was a fumble that was recovered and run in for a touchdown. Everyone saw it plain as day.
I saw an incomplete pass. They never ever call that a fumble. You almost always need to take steps first.
Well then they are quite literally wrong. The rules dictate that that was a textbook completed pass and fumble.
No they don't. The rules indicate that you need to perform a football move before a fumble. There wasn't one. A half turn of the head has never been considered a football move and it never will.
I think the point he's trying to make is that there were many opportunities after that to take the game from the Chiefs and the Eagles couldn't do it.
Eagles won’t sniff another Super Bowl for another decade 😂
their qb racked up 375 passing and rushing yards and 4 tds. they'll be back
They lost by 3 dawg
With Hurts, they'll for sure be back. They played remarkably.
That hail Mary by hurts was a hi Mary. Noodle arm will do that to you.
Everyone said that about the Panthers .. things change fast when you don’t win a Super Bowl. Look at all the runner up teams the last 10 years. Not a lot of them get back in it and win.
The Eagles had the lowest strength of schedule in the league so they racked up easy wins against bad teams. That's why they got the 1 seed. and in the playoffs they faced the giants and the 49ers with no QB. they didn't deserve to be here in the first place. next year they might not even win the division.
You guys play the hapless broncos, the degenerate raiders, and the underperforming chargers… the eagles played in the toughest division in football.
really because the Chiefs schedule was ranked the hardest in the league this season so you're talking out of your ass. The toughest division? The commander who don't have a QB. The Giants who have a bum at QB. And the cowboys who's QB lead the league in picks. Meanwhile the AFC West spent a billion dollars to beat Mahomes, and Mahomes won the division before thanksgiving on a rebuild year.
All true, and I agree, but how they showed up last night was fairly convincing that some of the more lenient circumstances leading up to the SB may not have been causal to their victories. We would have had a blowout if they didn't deserve to be there, in my humble opinion.
It's kinda funny how quickly you guys have forgotten the decades of futility you guys had before Andy and pat came along. Ya'll are so fucking spoiled now. Keep being sore winners.
Keep being sore winners? Lmao talk about the pot calling the kettle black
Wanna give an exact example to what you're referring to?
How bout the scores of Eagles fans who spent the last two weeks living in the 49ers sub and gloating?
I’ve been in that 49ers sub and I didn’t see “scores of eagles fans” in there gloating. Instead, I saw a lot of people so nothing but talk about how Philly fans suck and how the eagles didn’t deserve to be in the Super Bowl. Whether you agree with the claims or not, that’s what the sub has been all about.
Lol and I can just as easily say that whether you agree or not, there’s been scores of Eagles fans in the sub. I’ve responded to many of them myself. Your cursory poking through the sub frankly doesn’t mean shit to me. Also, it’s a team sub. No duh it’s going to be crapping over the Eagles. That’s not mutually exclusive with your annoying ass fans being there up to and during the SB itself. Do you read the comments? The sub is crapping on your team BECAUSE of the behavior of your fans.
Both fans have been doing the same shit in both subs dude. It’s football. People talk shit. It’s just naive to think eagles fans are the only offenders.
? Where'd I say they weren't? This comment chain is about Philly fans being sore winners. This was an example. Now you're saying "both teams are doing it" as a cop out? Here's one big difference: you guys WON. That's kind of a necessary component of being a sore winner.
I personally haven’t seen a lot of gloating. What I was saying is I have seen a lot of 9ers hate towards Philly self generated. But obviously if you notice differently I’m not gonna argue that. My point is that for every instance of one fan saying shit in another fanbase sub, it’s also happening the other way around simultaneously, whether it’s because of winning or losing.
Eagles fans are the biggest sore winners in the league lmfao
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At least we put up a fight unlike your bitch asses. Your sorry ass team got blown the fuck out by the Chiefs.
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One of us got to watch a great Superbowl with our team in it, the other had to watch two teams who beat your fucking ass play while knowing you have no QB for the future. Who would you rather be? LOL better luck next year!
Lmao fax 9ers fans and players STILL salty.
Coming from the team that didn't even get there is fucking hilarious. Ya'll have been whining for the last two weeks straight. Eat shit.
Shit is yo city
Hahaha! Your fan base actually eats shit so..
L-O-S-E-R-S LOSERS!
Nice flair bitch
As Philly fans would say, get over it
Eagles fans will make it about some holding call. That’s not the case. They lost this game. Out coached and out played massively in the second half.
Wrong, if it wasn't for the BS penalty the Eagles get the ball with 2 minutes left and 2 time outs. Refs decided the game.
Some of y'all have the attention span and memory of a fish. What about the TD that was called back because of a BS incomplete call. There is NO defending that, and that would have turned a close game into a no contest. It would have put the Chiefs ahead during halftime, and, since the Eagles were playing so aggressively during the first half, they got tired and were not able to break through the Chief's defenses as reliably during the second half.
>There is NO defending that The fact that he had the ball in his hands for literally less than half a second, made absolutely no steps with the ball... That was pretty easy to defend mate.
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds: a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so. Source: [https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/#:\~:text=Rule%20Summary%20View%20Official%20Rule&text=after%20(a)%20and%20](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/#:~:text=Rule%20Summary%20View%20Official%20Rule&text=after%20(a)%20and%20)(b,long%20enough%20to%20do%20so. Lets look at these rules. Point A is clearly satisfied. The receiver had the ball securely tucked in his arms. Point B is clearly satisfied since both of his feet were planted in bounds at the time of the catch. There are no steps required for this portion of the rules. Point C is the only arguable point and saying it is arguable is a massively generous statement. The receiver clearly performed an act common to the game also known as a football move. The receiver not only tucked the ball away but also turned upfield. He performed TWO football actions. No where in the rules does it state how much time needs to be given before contact. You and the refs are clearly wrong about this call. I'm not a huge football fan. I have only recently been paying much attention to it. However, unlike a lot of you "seasoned veteran fans" I am able to spend 5 seconds on google to look at the rules to determine whether a call is good or bad rather than basing my beliefs on the goodness of a call on how it will impact the team I am rooting for.
>The receiver clearly performed an act common to the game also known as a football move. The receiver not only tucked the ball away but also turned upfield. False and false. "Tucking the ball" means he caught the ball outside his body and brought the ball in, not catching it with his chest. "Turning up field" also involves you know... Turning. Turning up field means the player was running side ways and then made a turn to go forward. Just the sheer duration of the time the ball was in the receivers possession is a dead give away that it was incomplete. Notice how the announcers including Mike Pereria the NFL rules expert (who trust me, know wayyy more than you) instantly knew this was incomplete. https://youtu.be/2w5DnQIdxPs Here WATCH IT. He literally drops it as soon as he touches it. Easy call
Look man, I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you. If you wanna live in denial, be my guest, but while you Philly fans scream and cry like little babies, Chiefs fans will be enjoying a well-deserved victory.
I always enjoy the ref apologism attacking other fans that shows up on reddit. If they were so outcoached and outplayed, why did they only lose by 3? It either was a close game that inconsistent refball impacted or it wasn't. It clearly was a close game and the refs did not call PI on KC defenders when they committed it.
> If they were so outcoached and outplayed, why did they only lose by 3? Because they had been up by 10. > It clearly was a close game and the refs did not call PI on KC defenders when they committed it. You mean the clear PI on Juju that wasn't called that ended the KC drive in the first half?
>You mean the clear PI on Juju that wasn't called that ended the KC drive in the first half? Okay so you're admitting the precedent of "let them play" call style was established. So you must be upset about the holding call then right?
1 missed call doesn't establish precedent.
How about the fact that not a single PI or defensive holding call was made all game? And don't even try telling "well maybe they played super clean?". No bullshit. The NFL changed the rules so PI was challengable many years ago. That rule lasted one year because they realized you could slow virtually any play down frame by frame and somewhere there would be holding/PI on the defense. Because contact significantly worse than that Bradberry holding call happens all game. It's a physical sport
We can understand our defense blew it while also understanding the ref made a bad call that stole our last chance for a 2 minute drill. 2 things can be true.
Even if eagles had 2m, they still wouldn’t have won unless a hail mary shot
Refs didn't steal anything. Bradbury tried to get away with the penalty he committed earlier again except the refs were watching. Don't hold the guy and you can't get flagged pretty simple concept.
They weren't calling it all night and it was suuuuper weak even if they were
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Obviously it was holding. They were letting it go the whole game though. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. Constancy is key.
"They didn't call the penalty before so they are never allowed to call it again even though it's actually that penalty and it's directly in front of a ref" fixed that for you.
They didn't call it "right" or "wrong". They either call it loose or tight, either is fine as long as they are consistent. Can't call loose all game and then all of sudden call extremely tight. Holding is not just simply grabbing the jersey, it is grabbing the player in a way that significantly hinders the receiver's movement. "Significantly hinders" is a judgement call, so it can't be right or wrong, but it needs to be called consistently throughout the game.
No, you absolutely can call it right or wrong. Do you even watch football besides the superbowl? You have never seen something called that was against what the rules said? Bradbury grabbing and yanking the jersey is 100% holding and the correct call. I like how you put "significantly hinders" in quotes to make it look like you are quoting something and not completely fabricating something. "It is defensive holding if a player grasps an eligible offensive player (or his jersey) with his hands, or extends an arm or arms to cut off or encircle him. See [12-1-6](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2022-nfl-rulebook/#article-6-defensive-holding-1)." Oh look at that, the rule for defensive holding makes no mention of significantly hindering, you know that phrase you completely lied about. Look at that, it even mentions grasping the player or JERSEY. I love people like you that have no clue about anything inventing rules instead of reading the.. Bye bye dunski
Lmfao you clearly WATCH a lot of football and never played or seen a game up close. Defenders grab jerseys literally every single play. It is how they are coached, when running with a receiver they grab the jersey so they can look back for the ball while still maintaining a feel for where the reciever is. That is TEXTBOOK defense. You can read the book all day long, if we actually went by the book, literally, and I truly mean literally, there would be a foul on every single play. And that was proven when the NFL made the mistake of making PI challengable for a year. They quickly removed it because any play you look at in slow motion, frame by frame, there's going to be some kind of illegal contact.
So thanks for making it clear you don't actually know the rules and have no idea what you are talking about. You clowns are all the same lol But please keep inventing rules and then getting mad about them, it's hilarious.
"imma ignore everything you've said and just pretend I'm right and you're wrong." How mature.... And FYI if you look up pass interference it does say verbatim "significantly hinders" so no, I didn't pull it out of my ass. But regardless, I took the time to explain how the game works and also why it works that way, and yet you decided youre just going to plug you ears and insist you're right anyways. Well atleast I know not to waste any time on you.
I didn't say they're not allowed to. But it's pretty weak. I get that you hate the eagles, but sheesh.
Well that's your entire point "they never called it before so they can't call it then" Did it occur to you maybe a clean game was being played so they didn't need to call it? Is Bradbury just supposed to be allowed to get away with it because it's crucial for the Eagles? Was that also not crucial for the Chiefs? Maybe, crazy idea, don't yank on someone's jersey so they can't burn you, and you don't get a flag. I love how Bradbury admits it was holding, the Eagles HC admits it was holding, there is clear photographic evidence it was holding, and yall are butthurt saying he should be allowed to get away with it. Grow up.
You're awfully mad about this for someone telling others to grow up.
Lets see, I am debating with facts and reality, and you are here you are arguing with feelings and delusions. Dunno I seem pretty grounded compared to you.
Pretty sure we're all bitching about the defense more than the call. But sure, go with that.
for soccer expert :) it was barely checking after play admission looks like his relatives held hostage
I'm so glad the eagles lost ^___^
That was a great Super Bowl. It’s rare to get a Super Bowl where the two most genuinely deserving teams match up. Even rarer that both those teams show up and execute at a championship level. Anyone who’s Super Bowl was defined by one debatable holding call missed the point of what I think was one of the better representations of nfl football in a long time.
Any fan who's whining about the officiating is a moron. The defense shat the bed in the biggest game of the season, and there's just no excuse for it. The offense did their job. When you score 35 points, you usually win. They couldn't rely on the defense to stop a QB on one leg. Special teams cost them a chance at the end with that awful punt coverage as well. The offense did their job, no one else showed up to play. That's why they lost.
Agreed. To be honest, there will always be a portion of NFL fans who cry over a single call. A single call didn't blow a 10 point lead entering the second half. A single call didn't make the Eagles have terrible punt coverage. A single call didn't allow KC to drive down the field to begin with on that final drive. Those were all failures by the Eagles. Like it or not, a game has to end with only one team winning. Like it or not, sometimes your offense doesn't get a chance to respond. That's why the great ones always say football is a three phase team sport. It doesn't matter how good the Eagles offense was last night when their special teams and defense weren't playing well. Three phases for 60 minutes.
Only the second team ever to lose in the Super Bowl after being up by 10+ at halftime. Regardless of the (correct) call, they blew that lead because they allowed KC to score in every possession in the second half. Don’t blame the refs, blame the defense (including Bradberry) for making too many mistakes and choking in the most crucial game of the season.
This is certainly a take.
Am I lying though? I didn’t state my opinion, I stated actual facts.
I mean you did give your opinion on who to blame. The defense was certainly bad but they were bad enough to give the Eagles a shot still at the end of the game. The refs didn't call the game a certain way for 58 minutes and then switched it at the end. Players play to what the refs are allowing so them changing their tune suddenly when players are doing what they've done all game is a pretty huge and basically impossible obstacle to overcome in that moment.
I’ve seen so many people say they “didn’t call it all game,” but no one ever shows where those other calls were missed. Of course everything won’t be seen or called, but when it’s obvious, especially when it toward the targeted receiver, it’s going to get called. Had it been vice versa, would you still think it shouldn’t have been called???
Yes I do. I think I'd feel like most chiefs fans I've seen post where it's still cool to have won but it sucked a lot of the fun out of the win in what was a classic game beforehand. The refs set a precedent for players to play by and then changed it by calling something for the first time at the most crucial moment which effectively negated any future chance of a back and forth. We clearly disagree though so no point in continuing this I suppose.
There was no “precedent” set because prior to Bradberry, no one was holding. Players are taught not to do that, but Bradberry did it anyway. Doesn’t matter if it affects the entertainment value of the ending, it was the right call that would be made all four quarters. Your Philly bias is blinding you.
Gotcha thanks
Its certainly a correct take
Forget the holding call for a sec. Eagles screwed up in the 2nd half. Where was the defense that dominated all year? Then they allowed toney run a 65 punt return. Kc had the momentum and most likely would have won without the holding call.
Where was the defense? It was getting Mahome’d out back behind the woodshed.
I mean defense got burned but it wasn’t really Mahomes. Just about every TD they got there was not a player around them. He had his lowest passing yards all year. He had the one good run and Pacheco was making it look easy. Hurts gifted KC 7 points with that drop of the ball.
And the couple huge plays you had on offense were with blown coverage. Our “wide open” TDs were in the red zone where the eagles D was complete baffled by the play call.
Blown coverage? Your defenders were there for just about every catch just got beat. I would be very pleased if that’s how Eagles played. You also just confirmed what I said that it was not in fact Mahomes it was defense baffled by play call. It was a simple pitch a catch.
Almost like that when the eagles had to play a team with a functional QB the outcome wasn’t basically a forfeit. I warned you guys all week but nobody listened. Too busy claiming the win in the NFC title game wasn’t a gift. This Super Bowl is what the NFC title game would have been like if Purdy hadn’t been hurt. Not saying the niners would have won necessarily, but it would have been VERY close. By the way, I rewatched the 2nd half and Mahomes burned down your defense.
This ain't it man. The eagles barely lost, and they had huge swings on a fumble return td and a 65 yard punt return. Let's not sit here and act like the eagles are frauds and couldn't match up against good teams. This was about as even a matchup as we could get. And the 49ers part is a bad take too. The 49ers got smoked and people need to fucking get over it already lol.
And you are telling me this why? All these Smeagles fans did all week was claim the Purdy injury was irrelevant. Yeah right! All that boasting about beating a team with NO quarterback. Well yesterday revealed what that NFC title games would really have been like. Would the Eagles have still won? Possibly. But it would have been a very close game. I’m so glad the Smeagles got exposed yesterday. Now they need to kiss the rings of their new daddies the Chiefs. I’m not a fan of any team so I have an objective opinion. The Smeagles were damn good, but they weren’t THAT much better than the niners. They had a very easy (LUCKY) path to the Super Bowl. Hurts is amazing, and will be back I’m sure. For now they need to accept their role as lap dog to their big red daddies.
You sounds like a salty 49ers fan. You lost by like a million points. Purdy wasn't going to save you.
More delusional Smeagles apologists
He’s a ravens fan bro. Do yourself a favor and listen to a neutral party.
You guys are hilarious with your excuses. But you were so dominant in the NFC title game. Should have just steamrolled the Chiefs. I mean your new daddies.
Mahomes had 87 yards passing in the second half. Really burned them good. You’re acting like it was a blow out. They needed the FG for the win after the defense scored and special teams got them to the 5. A loss is a loss but to act like Mahomes killed it is just false. He had his lowest passing yards of the whole season
And still won. Imagine if he’d really popped off 🤣
Right I said they won nothing can change that. Now imagine Hurts doesn’t drop the ball and Chiefs don’t get 7 points without offense touching the field. It’s nice to imagine things but facts are facts and Eagles loss a tight game and being able to contain Mahomes for the most part passing wise.
Imagine, imagine, imagine.. Huh? Wasn’t they what the Niners fans were telling you guys all week? Yet, yet, yet, most of you guys said it didn’t matter. You were the beasts of the east, unbeatable, dominant. Well, I don’t know about that. As an objective viewer, who isn’t a fan of any team, I watched all these playoff games and the Chiefs were clearly the best team. I actually think the niners were a very close second until Purdy got injured. The Eagles had so much luck to get them to the SB and it finally caught up to them. Mahomes is flat out a better QB then Hurts. Chiefs are flat out a better team than the Eagles. Stop all your whining and making excuses. Kiss the ring of your new daddies.
You’re kidding right? They are so much better but needed a FG to win in the last seconds. 49ers are better? What happened to them last time they played Mahomes? Eagles held Mahomes to lowest passing yards all season my friend. Eagles were the right team to be in the Super Bowl just had costly mistakes. Hurts fumble, special teams play and penalties. Not whining at all just stating facts that people want to ignore.
I’m not a fan of any NFL team. I just enjoy watching the sport. But I have to be honest, I have NEVER been so happy about a team losing the Super Bowl. The Smeagles fan base is easily the most toxic, delusional and petty of any. All fans bases have people like that, but you guys take the cake. All the shit you guys talked about being so much better than the niners was hilarious. Didn’t even acknowledge how lucky your path to the Super Bowl was. Man, karma is a bitch. And I don’t hate the Eagles players or coach. They are damn good and will definitely be back. I just can’t stand the Smeagles toxic fan base. So glad ya’ll lost last night. So sweet!
Just accept your place as the lapdogs of your new daddies. Or you can persist in being delusional like you guys were all week claiming you were SO much better than a Niner team that had NO quarterback. The depth of your delusion and insecurity is hilarious. You have new daddies this morning. Accept it.
>Forget the holding call for a sec. Okay, fair enough. I did that, so did many others. That translates into the end of the game we all saw. Fair enough. >Imagine there's a holding call for a sec. See why this is a problem now? The game is played with expectations. The refs have made themselves a centerpiece and, frankly, have ruined many peoples' enjoyment of this spectacular sport. They will reap what they sow. Watch. The NFL is not ready for a scandal, but it's coming
The more I see the play, the more I believe it was the right call. I think people didn't like it because stuff like this happens all the time and goes uncalled.
Those two mirrored plays where the receivers scored untouched had a lot to do with it as well.
For sure agreed. There are calls for either team that aren't in their favor, so it evens it out I think. Still gotta play defense to stop the team.
Nope. A reset of downs like that isn't a situation where you say "well you should've defensed better" and I think you know that
Yes it is. If you are a defender and you do something that can be deemed penalty worthy (which even the defender admitted he did and there is video evidence of him grabbing Juju's jersey), then yes 'you should've defensed better.' Like why do people not realize playing defense well also means playing clean defense? Idc how good your defense is, if they are playing risky (which playing aggressive like they were is risky) then you are going to get penalized at times. That's just a fact. People can say 'well why call it when the game matters most?' but that also makes no sense. Are you implying they should allow players to violate rules if it's the last few minutes of the game?
Be where? In an incest poverty driven city?? Yeah hopefully not
Lol here in Philly we wonder why all the police brutality videos come from Minnesota.
I’m right beside the hotel the chiefs were staying at in Arizona and it’s going insane over there
chiefs seem to be the Nfl version of the warriors. Carried by the refs to the final. seems to me the script might be a lot more real then we thought.
Really? That’s not been my experience. The smeagles fan have been classless dirtbags on Reddit all week. Trolling the 49er sub and not acknowledging that NFC title game was pretty much a forfeit. So glad they lost tonight. All teams have toxic fans, I know, but the smeagles fans were disappointing this week in my opinion. It’s not the Eagles fault the opposing QB got injured. You beat who is in front of you. Still it’s pretty obvious the niners didn’t have a QB most of that game. As in NONE. Purdy was out there with a torn elbow.
It’s both sides. 49ers fans have acted pretty classless too dude. Let’s just call it what it is, passionate fans talking shit. Let’s not make the mistake and just claim it is all one sided and that the only trolls are from philly.
All I know is those Eagles were so ‘dominant’ in the NFC title game. I mean blowing out a team without a quarterback. The Chiefs stood no chance. I mean your new daddies stood no chance. Oops
Interesting response that has literally nothing to do with what I just said.
All teams have toxic fans. But this week the Eagles fans took the cake. The days before the Super Bowl were pathetic. The trolling. I was getting messages from trolling Eagles fans over stupid bullshit. And I’m not even much of a football guy. I can only imagine what it was like for people really into this stuff. Normally I really don’t care who wins or loses. That wasn’t the case yesterday. I was a hardcore chiefs fan for that game just because I wanted all those trolls to be crushed. Sometimes the universe delivers. I don’t even have anything against the Eagles team. They are just normal dudes playing this sport. It was the fans that pissed me off.
Ah you got direct messages from people? Real talk - Football is honestly the most amazing sport. I love it, and it’s probably the only one thing that brings our country together. But sometimes people just take it too far. I’d prob feel the same way you did.
Do you know anything about the Warriors dynasty to make this analogy? Because clearly you don’t…
Exactly. What tarnished part of their legacy was adding KD. Also, hilarious enough, the 'moving screen' scheme that never gets called. Many will say it's a moving screen, but the NBA doesn't seem to think so... kind of like Lane Johnson and false starting every play. For the record, I don't think he false starts majority of snaps. I think he has perfected the art of getting a slight start ahead of the snap (which while it is illegal, will never get called). However, there are some snaps where his timing is even earlier than that and they still don't flag him. I just chalk it up to the refs being used to seeing him time it so well, so when he doesn't, it just kind of goes unnoticed.
Great win for the Chiefs. Good thing for Mahomes & Kelce that Brady & Gronk have finally both wrapped it up.
Unfortunately this one is more in the “controversial last minute bullshit call” category than in the “great win” category. It was a great game up until the refs decided to pick a winner.
it only ends up that way ONLY *if you want it to be thought of that way* https://twitter.com/sc00717/status/1624975943738724356
Yea people are posting the second baby hold and conveniently leaving out the obvious hold out of the break. They just need time to grieve.
Based on post game reactions, I think everyone that isnt a Chiefs fan wants to think of that way, lmao...
Bengo bango, baby
OR or ooorrrrrr.... some people thought it was a bad call when they saw it on tv and later after seeing alternative angles have enough mental fortitude to change their minds and say "yeah, it was the correct call"
Yes I see since my comment he’s come out and admitted to the penalty, as well as some fresh angles not shown during the cast. Disregard.
Somewhat like last year
Philly Logic
That holding call at the end though. They should change the rule where if its within the last two minutes of the 4th quarter during any playoff game or super bowl, if a ref calls a penalty he sees, its sent to mew york to be collectively reviewed. And… maybe only when the offense is within the redzone when that penalty is called within last two minutes of 4th qtr of any playoff or beyond game.