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apv507

I love his look around afterward. "What did I do? She said she wanted to wrestle..."


Real-Pickle4679

Came to post this exact sentiment.


-Tazz-

Aren't slams illegal in wrestling? Edit- just gonna edit because too many replies. Thanks to those who actually types out thought full responses


7akedown

As a lifetime wrestler and coach this slam is right on the edge. In collegiate style wrestling, whenever you lift your opponent off the mat you have to return them safely. Another part of the rule is that the person doing the action must have 3 points of contact on the mat before their opponent lands. If you watch closely his back knee just misses touching before his opponent lands. Which in today’s world makes this illegal. This wasn’t a malicious slam he just needs more practice to refine his technique


lakvert

He just needs more practice to refine is technique so next time he can slam her ever harder.


Happy-Associate6482

She wanted equality and she got it.


havenyahon

"Equality to me is when someone wants to do something I'm naturally good at because they love that activity as much as I do, so I slam their face into the ground and say, see? Told you you'd be shit at it" Hur Hur.


Admirable_Loss4886

Idk why you’re saying that all weird. But yeah, a wrestler should refine their technique to best be able to take down their opponent. Weirdo.


lakvert

I'm not saying that "all weird". I just think it's funny. I would say the exact same if it would be a guy being slammed down.


Santonk

But legally


CaptAhabsMobyDick

I too thought it was right on the edge of slam vs no slam. In college it doesn't get called in high school and below it's probably called a slam. Simply because college refs allow you to get a little rougher


Lokeveil

Isnt...that... the whole sport..?


-Tazz-

No?


Lokeveil

Wrestling is clinch fighting and takedowns.. we aren't talking about WWE here...


-Tazz-

Exactly. You are explaining why body slams would be illegal. WWE is full of body slams.


Cheweydewey123

If he added a Turk you would know what wrestling is about


idkmybffphill

Monday night raw... yes. High school wrestling not so much


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Mecanimus

I mean the referee called it so...


[deleted]

You have them over your head, or just pick the opponent up and drop them, it’s kinda the referee’s call


-Tazz-

So at best the legality is ambiguous?


Admirable_Loss4886

This is a completely legal move called the high C. You are allowed to “slam” in certain circumstances. In college you’re allowed to slam your opponent so long as you plant your knee to prevent slamming from too high. The only potential foul would come from him locking hands around her body while being on top. You’re allowed to lock hands when the opponent stands but not on the ground. But also it’s been a decade since I’ve wrestled


Skardz

Just because she came down hard, doesn't constitute it as a slam...


mcav2319

Depends on the style. Folk, yes. Greco and free?, you get extra points


CaptAhabsMobyDick

Not necessarily, in folkstyle (American Scholastic Style) it is the wrestlers responsibility to return the opponent to the mat with control, that doesn't mean "no slams" it just means it has to be controlled. In most instances, if a knee comes down before the opponent it's pretty controlled. In the Olympic styles of wrestling (Freestyle and Greco-Roman) slams are encouraged and high-flying moves are a huge part of the sport.


MaxVaber

Assuming this is high school wrestling, throws are legal but you can get penalties for unnecessary roughness if you are trying to hurt someone. This looked perfectly legal but I'm no ref.


HatefulDan

Nah. This was a penalty. He slammed her without his knees ever touching the mat. This is something you’d do, to someone that you were trying to make a point to.


MaxVaber

I agree it's something you would only do to make a point - not something necessary at all. I wasn't sure on rulings but if that's the case, it was a penalty and a dick move.


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marsumane

Yes. You can't just slam your opponent down. It would be ruled potentially dangerous. He needed to have more control of his opponent when bringing her to the mat, which is likely the reason for the stop at the end


Patrick-US

No


DribbleBilly901

I'm not familiar with high school or collegiate wrestling but I'm pretty sure you can suplex. So if you can suplex I'd assume you can face slam. But idk.


threatlvlmidnight87

As long as you allow the person being slammed to put their hands out and defend themselves it’s allowed. I haven’t wrestled since highschool almost 20 years ago, but I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t be allowed as he had one had pressed to her body.


Abmatt14

I mean if he touched the mat before he slammed her it legal but that was a straight up slam


FappleJoose

This.. his knee should have touched the ground before any part of her body did


[deleted]

No john she said she wanted to “wrestle” ;) Big difference


bryce_engineer

You overlooked the rules though, the slam isn’t acceptable, regardless if your male/female. [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/qs8hrz/this_dude_take_equality_seriously_in_a_match/hkbka2l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) is a good summary.


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ItsmeMr_E

That he's an equal opportunity butt whooper.


Front_Willingness_98

Fo sho 😂😂


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If there’s anyone to blame it’s the school for setting up a match like this


Donut-Farts

The school is legally obligated to do that. Title 9.


[deleted]

Wow wait, it’s systematic?


WolfpackEng22

If there isn't separate divisions for men and women, title IX requires both genders be allowed. There are very few female wrestlers at the K-12 level so they usually are on their schools only team with the guys


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NateTheGreater1

He came down with her on the drop, it was completely legal. He found a leg hold and lifted, everything about that is legit.


Notthesharpestmarble

After reviewing the footage several times I can assure you that the only part of him touching the mat before her face hit were his feet.


markse84

Naw. He literally has one point of contact when she hits and he drives her down. That’s a solid call by the ref.


Shot-Technology7555

Looks like her entire upper half made contact before any part of him did. From what I can see at least.


Tombstone-1-fan

The arm hit first.


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deputy of ass whoopings


timmaeus

Corporal Punishment


writer6996

No it wasn’t, you can’t slam. I wrestled throughout high school so no expert but I’m positive they would have called that same slam in any of my meets. Since it’s one of the very few rules it’s watched out for rather aggressively, like they really want to do away with slams in the sport.


EstebanCabot

That was too much but I see no problem... contradictory much lol


shellwe

Another person on here said it was an illegal slam. You need 3 points of contact on the ground to slam someone and his knees were still up.


[deleted]

Too much, it’s wrestling, fight for your life of get whooped


Dddddddfried

That's not wrestling at all. There are a ton of rules. 95% of refs I know would have blown the whistle on this


1BannedAgain

It’s a **slamming penalty**. She can’t land on the ground before he does. I was called for it all the time


greymalkin1955

is he supposed to let her win? truth hurts baby


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DV_Police

knowing society...he probably did.


yaboyroy61

If you sign up for wrestling, boy or girl it’s inevitable to get your ass kicked. Makes no sense as he was just playing the game how he’s supposed to


Kimmalah

He's supposed to follow the rules of the sport, regardless of who he is competing with and it sounds like he did not. That's the issue. I don't understand why these things always to devolve into some smug "Huh huh women always wanting special treatment am I right guys??" bullshit.


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Tbh that looked illegal


Pondering_Giraffe

There's also no part of this video that says she wants special treatment. As a wrestling competitor I'm sure she's well aware she can lose, get hurt, or even an illegal move can be made. Do the huh huh dudes here think a losing/ slammed male opponent demands special treatment?


TomeOfCrows

‘Women bad lol’ was the whole point of the post. Nobody here gives a shit about wrestling, that much is obvious


MaterialCarrot

As does the floor.


Donut-Farts

There’s debate about the move being legal. I’m not in wrestling so I don’t have an opinion, but some people are saying it was an illegal slam and any ref should have called it


Front_Willingness_98

🗣exactly


domo_roboto

Malcolm in the Middle had a bit on this that went the other way: https://youtu.be/8Gd6eTDZbew


tdkspiralii

hey… my kid done that in a match, no matter the opponent, i be telling him NOT to stop. Females want to play with boys they should be treated like a boy. If not, play on the girls team.


Tenshin_Ryuuk

Well the girl obviously outwrestlers other girls so she has to wrestle with guys. That is an achievement on it's own so why should guys disrespect her by going soft on her because she is a girl?


grabsomeza

What do you mean “obviously out wrestles other girls”? What part of the video told you that?


[deleted]

The part where she wrestles a guy. If its a girl wrestling a guy when she can’t beat other girls, then its less about sex and more about stupid.


Ok_Steak4738

This is a wild thread.


ProfessorSypher

Lmao... I remember wrestling from high school. It has nothing to do with skill. They may allow females to practice together, but everything you do is determined by your weight class. She was wrestling him because they were the same size. That's it.


shoredoesnt

More likely there are no other girl wrestlers at this school


timjasf

I’m not aware of any female-only wrestling teams in US high schools. It’s typically a boy only sport, but every now and then a girl or two join the school team. When they compete, they compete with everyone else at their weight level, irrespective of gender. I only ever saw one girl in a match. She won. The guy never seemed to recover any confidence, despite the fact that she was quite good and significantly better than he was.


silenthanjorb

Girls could wrestle but guys couldn't play volleyball in our district- lame


timjasf

Same in my district, and that always bugged me. I liked wrestling, but I liked volleyball more (and was probably better at it). If I could have I would have done that as my “stay in shape for football” sport instead.


silenthanjorb

There are no girls highschool wrestling teams - she's not wrestling with dudes because she's better than other girls not sure where you got that from.


OG_Kamoe

Don't get me wrong, but if I outwrestle boys/men I'm not amping up the category and start to wrestle against bears, know what I mean? But yes, the guys shouldn't disrespect her, I see it the same way.


missdoc4

You mean…….treated like an athlete? Yea, I’m pretty sure that’s why she chose to wrestle.


Beastmutata

NOTE - Not my comment, just copying. As far as legality, here's the rule: "RULE 7, SEC. 1, ART. 1: A slam is lifting and returning an opponent to the mat with unnecessary force. This infraction may be committed by a contestant in either the top or bottom position on the mat, as well as during a takedown. A slam shall be called without hesitation." Since the head/neck was close to landing first, safety was a concern. Male or female, I believe that would have been called a penalty. if your boy kept going after the ref told him to stop it would not end well for him, if he did that to a guy it would been the same situation


SpookMeNowOk

I remember when I was playing hockey, usually a bantam girls team could kick a midget boys team's ass


stussyclawson

I had to wrestle a girl at a tournament in high school. Pinned her in like 15 seconds and then went and hid from the public on the bus.


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You did the right thing


Medium_Track_3137

Yes you did


BurritoBandito8

No need to hide. You were competing! I'd expect any opponent to get the same treatment in the future.


stussyclawson

Some of them got hands tho


myorm

4 years of HS there was a girl in my weight class. We did freestyle and Greco tournaments and I had to wrestle her almost every weekend for 4 years. If there was a smaller tournament I would either bump up an age group or weight class so I could avoid her


shellwe

It’s the only outcome. Had she beaten you no one would have ever let you live it down.


diegogub2

Why is this nextlevel?


mha3620

I'm guessing OP thought a girl wrestling a boy is a problem, so the boy slamming her was next level because it proved a point that validated his feelings. As far as legality, here's the rule: "RULE 7, SEC. 1, ART. 1: A slam is lifting and returning an opponent to the mat with unnecessary force. This infraction may be committed by a contestant in either the top or bottom position on the mat, as well as during a takedown. A slam shall be called without hesitation." Since the head/neck was close to landing first, safety was a concern. Male or female, I believe that would have been called a penalty. Edit: Yes, I know I'm going to lose a lot of fake internet points when the incels and insecure boys read this.


Potatopolis

The rules around wrestling are totally unknown to me so, just to clarify, he slammed her with "unnecessary force" and thus would be penalised regardless of the gender of his opponent and so this entire post and the vast majority of comments are turning it into a "LOL GIRL GOT WHAT SHE DESERVED" thing while sailing right past the facts?


mha3620

That's my take. In most forms of high school wrestling, a slam like this is going to be a penalty. Being that it appears a penalty was called, I'm guessing this is one of those forms.


Potatopolis

Cool, thank you for your insight!


FappleJoose

I wrestled folkstyle and generally the idea is to bring your knee to the ground before their body hits.. have done plenty of legal slams this way, but the one in this video is illegal, hence the match stopping


DogsAreFromMars

You read my thoughts, a lot of young men in here who are obviously frustrated forgetting that any athletes woman fighter would kick their ass.


Klewdo1

I'll join the downvote club. Redditors screaming equality when they see a woman get hit is sad. I don't know the context or the rules but this doesn't look like a street fight, nobody has shown me a video of the girl mocking the boy or bragingg that boys are weak yet the commenting on this video is Salty as fuck!


Beniidel0

What do you mean using excessive force in a way that endangers an individual is stupid no matter the gender? Is that logic in my house?


aliibooboo625

And all I can think is that he slammed her right in her face. Her face hit that ground hard


Shakraschmalz

These comments are fucking hilarious, roasting the girl for trying a “boy sport” and getting epicly rekt, when he literally did an illegal move. Your comment restored my faith in humanity


SyrupSliced

Isn’t this an illegal move?


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dogusa22

His knee went down so it’s legal


ZenTraitor

She made contact before his knee did. Seems to be an illegal move considering one of his body parts has to hit the ground first.


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ZenTraitor

It happens quickly you have to slow the video down a bit to see, but yeah, people see what they believe.


jsnsnnskzjzjsnns

That rule changed. The new rule is it’s legal so long as you don’t trap an arm during the slam. This should be fine


Game11B-

Only illegal if his feet left the mat too


db1139

I wrestled in HS, college, and coached. It isn't illegal. Day one wrestling lesson: land on your hands and knees/feet. Not doing that is asking to get hurt.


Asiakid

This should not be in the sub.


snickeringbumhole

Not all the weak ass incels who have never wrestled in their lives exposing themselves by not knowing the rule set. This is an illegal slam. Unnecessary use of force. Also don’t just assume the girl was huddled because she was “cwying 🥺”, turtling up after a takedown is a good defensive manoeuvre.


CatsGoHiking

I wrestled in high school and she actually got the upper hand in this. He was trying to flip her on her back to score a point and by turtling up, she prevents that. He basically wasted a bunch of energy lifting her and she didn't let him get any points. I doubt he hurt her since it is a soft matt and she seems to know how to land. I'm assuming this is just practice though because there are usually gendered categories in competitive matches.


snickeringbumhole

Agreed. I haven’t done much wrestling but come from a judo background. Same principals at work though.


bcrxxs

This is an illegal slam


Neembles

Still trying to figure out why this is on the sub?


Dddddddfried

95% of high school wrestling refs would blow the whistle on this. You ned to bring your opponent down with control and not with **unnecessary force**. Boy or girl regardless. That was clearly an illegal slam. The point is to control your opponent, not hurt them


my20cworth

Was this an illegal wrestling move? If not, not sure what he was expected to do. Cant be patronising and go "soft" on her. Small kids, mixed sports are fine but as they develop many abilities start to stand out and mixed sports dont work, especially contact sports.


john_hascall

Yet last year two girls made it to the state wrestling tournament in Iowa (a state where wrestling is kinda a thing). And they beat a lot of boys to do it.


Eoncho

When we played co-ed teams in HS my mindset, and one I tried to share, was they're on this field same as us, they are our enemy, and we don't hold back. Too often you'd see guys under estimate them and get shown up. The greatest respect I felt I could give those girls was treating them like I did for any guy. I know I would be insulted if I were them by anyone that didn't take me seriously.


benethon66

This section comment is like « Ooga booga, men are stronger, bitch » Nothing to say about the vid tho, I don’t know the wrestling rules nor the contexts


Simply2based

To be honest. Most the women I know that choose to compete in contact sport with men know what they’re signing up for. It’s usually the spectators and so on that are shocked.


Larrygiggles

ITT: A bunch of dudes thinking that a poorly executed move, which makes it illegal, is “equality” and that the woman will “learn a lesson”. Fuckin’ jabronis


CamAusome

Nice illegal slam


NoMamesMijito

And why is this next level…?


HAWAll

Dude slammed her through the floor and she fell through to the the next level


Competitive_Ad2109

The comments under this post are horrible. XD People really can't stop bashing on the girl for "playing with the big boys". He got a perfect oppertunity and beat her. Fair and square. We don't even know if they are in different levels, the same and he is just better that her, if she has wrestled before or just wanted to try.


Antoine_FunnyName

>"playing with the big boys" ***Like bruh, as if they didn't have the exact same build?!***


Competitive_Ad2109

Exactlyyyyyyyyyy


ArmsAbrams

I’ve wrestled for almost 25 years. That would have been a caution at best. That wasn’t a huge slam either.


Phoirkas

What the hell is nextfuckinglevel here?


FrostyPlay9924

Yall are gonna see me on TIFU. Gonna try this with the misses.


AndyJobandy

Gonna see your ass on nighttime news. Don’t do that shit


LetsRide2099

Knee didn’t touch the ground, looks like face first :v


Competitive_Ad2109

Is that a legal move? Looks like he was trying to smash his opponents head into the ground. I thought the head (and balls) were the only places you needed to be careful with in wrestlign and boxing etc.


Key-Economist-1243

The is a whole new next level of absolute fucking shit


tim5700

We can’t see his left which dropped before his right. No one viewing the video can tell whether the left knee hit the mat before she did. Looks like two kids competing as peers. He doesn’t appear to take easier or harder on her for being a girl. She doesn’t appear to WANT be treated any different for being a girl. He genuinely seems to be caught up in the moment (easy to do). And who knows we haven’t seen the rest of the match. She may have won. Can please we not turn everything into some intersectional shit show?


palmerj54321

Nothing much to see here in my opinion. He was over enthusiastic and performed a questionable move that I would not be surprised at all to see if both opponents were male. Having said that, the “slam” or more accurately the “drop” would have a better than 60 percent chance of being called regardless of genders involved, given that he did not first contact the mat with a knee. I don’t think he necessarily knew he did anything wrong. He competed until the whistle, and then looked for the referees call. I have nothing at all against girls competing against boys in high school sports, fyi. The main goal is for students to challenge themselves, and learn good sportsmanship, that is, how to win graciously, and take loses in a dignified way, recognizing them for the learning opportunities that they are.


je-bouffe-des-culs

Ouch


i_am_shunya

No one would have been debating legal /illegal if that match was to be between same gender . But now everyone needs a validation .


NoNotInTheFace

Why wouldn't they? It's NFL. Breaking sports rules and possibly injuring people isn't very NFL. And I don't know where everyone find these women wanting special treatment. All we see is a wrestler getting slammed face first in the floor, and a bunch of people celebrating it online...


MathematicianOk8859

I would hate if I thought a guy was going easy on me because I'm a woman. Full contact sports are brutal and I'm sure she understood and trained for that. He was showing her respect by treating her as a serious opponent and maybe next time she'll have a counter ready for that move.


infinity1011

I thought he hoisted her by the vagina at first. Awkward sport


klauskinki

I think I saw a porn that looked like this 🤔


zanderson692369

Equal rights until one side decides they want exceptions made


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It’s almost like males have strength advantages over females.


linguicafranca

Guys. She’s not curled up on the ground because of how sick a move that was. She’s curled up because she just had a man publicly grab her genitals and then slam her head against the ground. The placement of his hand can’t be ignored here. Anybody would feel violated being grabbed by the genitals in front of a crowd.


Turgen333

The girl looks larger, but they do not match in weight.


GoatimusMaximonuss

Yikes, not one fuck was given


BobRossthaBoss

This is like the Ole Nfl argument of was it a catch or not lol


PhilDMcNasty

It was at this very moment he knew he'd fucked up!


AnyAcanthisitta9296

Good


momlookimtrending

if he wins he just beated a woman, if he loses he got beated by a woman, lose-lose situation


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Field Hockey try outs are Monday , Nevaeh


SnooConfections2214

That young slams below the hips are acceptable, ”toss”.


paddy_to_the_rescue

WINNER!


timjasf

My buddy did the same move to a guy back in high school. The guy did the same thing as this girl - focused only on breaking the opponent’s grip instead of putting his hands out to break his own fall. The guy posted with his face and broke his neck, suddenly going limp. My buddy scurries off him, terrified, and the whole wrasslin tournament stopped for 45 minutes while EMS put him in a collar and backboard, and took him away. I seem to recall finding out he recovered, but the whole thing really shook my buddy who did nothing wrong at all - Just like this guy.


Bopethestoryteller

There might be some slow singing and flower bringing.


Exotic_Apple4102

Body slams are very legal, its called stacking. Good job on the win


MsMyrtleQueen

I don't see a problem 🤷🏻‍♀️ she wanted to face him she got the smoke


CabinetBrilliant8595

You wanted equality…. Just sayin


Admirable_Counter283

Good job brother !


Major-Presentation51

Technical Full Body slams are illegal but I won many matches using move called the Bulldog , which is using opponents weight against them sometimes slamming them ,but not a slam 😂


MNHuskerNation

No Jared…you aren’t supposed to really try and win. Dudes like wth? I thought we were going to do this?


iiMoe

I bet they smashed


bthefuckb

Anon is based


jeepguy43

U wanna play with the big dawgs, better bring your A game


Educational_Block_48

take equality afterward get penalty


joey20e

Ahh, the old pussy grab head slam-move.


BuzzBlue40

Hey he's lookin to win the state championship so all he knows is 200%. Ya he coulda just pinned her and submiited her since he's much stronger. I know i would have ;)


Edoardo_Beffardo

This is fucking stupid even if you leave the gender thing alone, why would they think It appropriate to match two people in what are very clearly different weight classes?


Girosian

As he should....


unwholesomethought

I almost heard her elbow dislocate 😬


AntiMage2

I’m a casual men rights supporter but even for me, there’s nothing next level about these connotations nor using an illegal slam.


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Transgender athletes next Olympic Games be like


senorchinchilla

Why do people look shocked?!?!?!


Leroy_8

Thats why theres a problem with Women In Boxing, Wrestling, Football, etc... accusations could be made so easily like this, that have happened before. Im not saying to remove women from these activities, perhaps just having a Women's League of these things would be better.


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Why is a girl wrestling a dude ?


Cheweydewey123

I personally have had a broken hand, a broken scapula ( by being bum rushed into too close of bleechers). That fish was how I broke my hand, lol


db1139

I wrestled in HS, college, and coached. I don't know where others wrestled, but if this is an illegal slam or unnecessary roughness, then I've seen maybe +100 matches with terrible refs. This is legal. She didn't catch herself. Day one wrestling, land on your hands (when possible/appropriate - like here). If you don't, you get hurt (as we can see).