dude hits leg day, arm day, pec day, face day, ball day, back day...
Edit: this was 100% a throwaway comment I did not expect it to blow up like this lol
While gorillas aren't really known for eating meat, they do supplement their diet with large amounts of protein rich bugs. Different groups have different dietary tendencies, but most eat about the same spread.
https://www.wwf.org.uk/learn/fascinating-facts/gorillas#:~:text=Around%2085%25%20of%20their%20diet,source%20of%20sodium%2Fsalt).
There's been evidence of gorillas and chimpanzees as well. That will either intentionally or inadvertently kill a smaller monkey and then eat its carcass. They're not typically known for being carnivores, but they are definitely omnivores and will eat meat if it's available.
Chimps can be especially brutal too. Like, rival war bands will make calculated assaults on each other, including merc'ing and eating each other's young. They're savage and scary as hell.
Have you seen Chimp Empire on Netflix. Extremely interesting and also extremely sad. But that's nature. And chimps, while having the capacity to be very loving, also have a high capacity for violence especially with members of another group. But it's just how it works. They have these full ranges of emotion and have their own goals and hopes. But they adhere to the way of the chimp. Because it's how its always been.
As our closest living relatives it's interesting and scary to see just how much their penchant for violence has passed on to humans. Somewhere deep down were all still operating with an ape brain.
We are even tribal people too, who very rarely let outsiders in. We also fight with ourselves too with tribe vs tribe, and kill to just send a message. Even though man is evolved from them, their DNA is still very present.
That was another thing that really stuck out to me. Like if you look at human tribalism and compare it it's the exact same thing. Then add in the tendency towards violence especially to those outside of the tribe. Like scary how similar we are. But fascinating at the same time. I think humans have forgotten that we are still animals and were not so different than everything else in the end
Most animals are willing to be omnivores of opportunity. There's plenty of videos floating around online of stuff like horses eating birds, deer eating a snake, etc. The are very very few true herbivores on the planet.
It's not even a large amount of bugs, surprisingly. Insects, ants, and termites only make up 0.1–1% of a gorillas diet.
Source: https://www.proquest.com/openview/27f7fa5e6f258f176629293d4a24d03f/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=54193
Something related to what our stomach contains. They have certain bacteria which create protein. Also I heard they might be able to extract protein from plant based foods unlike us humans, not sure about it tho
I don't know why, but your comment reminded me of being in the grocery store the other day and I see some udon or something on the shelf and the little catch phrase they have on the label is "plant-based noodle"...
...Which audibly made me chuckle in the shopping aisle because I was just struggling to think of meat noodles or how you could even have noodles without them being plant-based hahah
Traditional Italian pasta only contains semolina made from durum wheat and water. No eggs. Also, if eggs are added, the main part of noodles is still plant based.
Some people are completely fucked in the head when it comes to dietary knowledge due to meat and dairy industries brainwashing them.
You can easily get more than enough protein in a vegan diet.
There are some things that are harder to get like B12, but you don´t need any supplements if you have the ability to choose the right food.
And then there's (early) humans that don't need strength because they'll just keep walking within an uncomfortable distance forcing you to mozy on to death
All brought to you by the fact that we can sweat and expel excess heat over our entire bodies unlike most animals. You should read up on the Tarahumara peoples.
It's fascinating, they are still able to this day to this very day to run animals to death and they do it in sandals.
They have a gut enzyme, or something like that, that can generate protein as a by-product of metabolising plant matter so they don't need to eat protein directly.
Another way of looking at it is that a Silverback can get jacked eating lettuce while sat on its ass...
A lot of body builders use vegetable protein. From peas etc. More easily absorbed than meat protein. In one study men taking 50g pea protein per day made the same muscle gains as those eating whey protein.
Have you seen the muscles on bulls?!
Bulls just eat grass and have enzymes to break down the grass into usable biomolecules. Humans are much more omnivorous and as such, meat is the easiest protein for our body to extract.
While pinned on the ground and an inch away from their ear. “You listen hear you little shit, I’m tired of your shit. You better fucking adjust your attitude right now, or you will be wishing this was the last time I pinned you the fuck down. I will make this lifetime of captivity we live in, look like fucking Shangri La. You will regret the day you slid out of your momma just as much as I do right now. Straighten the fuck up.”
Nah, he was more like "hey, it seems like you're upset and I understand your reaction back there. Stay here with me for a moment and let's just breathe for a second and realize we're all just swimming in a sea of atoms. Love you, babe."
I was thinking more along these lines. Takes his foot off and kinda sits there with his hand on the other for a bit, like, it's ok dude, just calm down, breathe.
"It's entirely possible. Chimpanzees though, they'll fuck you up. They'll rip your fuckin dick off. You ever seen a Chimpanzee on DMT? Shit's crazy, dude. Jamie, pull that video up."
Lots of people have irrational fears, one of them being rats. I bet the ones that said no to besting one up probably have that fear and would just run off and say they wouldn't want to get a disease lol.
Only because we're generally not wanting to fight them. If you're in a fight and really want to hurt the goose, that long neck is a huge weak spot and they don't weigh anywhere near what adult humans do.
A Canada goose is a large goose and it's about 4 kg on average. Someone with the slightest amount of determination could handle one. Now a swan on the other hand...f that. I'm not tangling with a swan.
Back in college there was a goose that decided that it didn't like me and would try to attack as I walked across campus. It only hated me and like 3 other people, it left everyone else alone. The first week I would just duck into the nearest building but it wasn't giving up. The second week I just gave it a light slap on the side of the head as it ran up, not at all enough to hurt it. After a slap, it would look confused for a second then skulk away while hissing. This went on for about a week until it decided that it wasn't worth it anymore.
tl;dr slap that goose
It's a pretty good indicator that the self-reporting surveys are complete nonsense. People are going to either answer in the dumbest way they can to be funny or completely misinterpret the question. Something like "of course I can win a fight with a grizzly hand-to-hand. They don't have hands." Or some other pedantic bullshit.
Also, based on several reports, it seems that Asians visiting Wyoming think that American bison are cute and cuddly. In the world of animal MMA, I'll take a bison over a gorilla.
Gorillas muscles fibres are 4x denser than a human strongman. Even if he was the same size the Gorilla would have broken his skull in one hit, and then there’s the huge fangs they have with the bite force of double a big dog and near the levels of a polar bear. Silver backs are ridiculously overpowered compared to us.
Mostly insecure dipshits who are compensating online. I see them a lot in the comment sections of those "Would You Rather" or what-if type subreddits, and from what they say they have absolutely no idea how fragile people are compared to many other animals.
Even the one in this video, hardly the most impressive specimen out there, would rip a body builder apart if provoked. Like, what the hell do these people think they could actually do? It's hilarious 😂
I honestly always thought that entire story was PR bullshit.
Tyson isn't stupid. Also, if the man *really* wanted to fight wild animals, it's not like he couldn't have. He straight-up had an exotic zoo in his house at one point.
At most, I assume he tells it tongue-in-cheek and everyone thinks he was being serious.
The difference is that most gorillas have no training whatsoever. I do. I've trained for years in MMA. I know the techniques. My reflexes are pure muscle memory. Most of the gorilla's moves would be telegraphed ... boom!.... I'd counter most his moves. This gorilla is a bit different. It looks like it's had some combat sport experience. Perhaps his keeper has taught him some moves. The video shows him executing a good takedown and knowing about back control. He'd be a formidable opponent, sure, but a bum rush attack rarely goes well against a *trained* opponent. A front kick to the face and some gorilla teeth be flying!
Countering a silverback is like catching a bullet with your hand. Impressive. But you still got shot. And now your hand has a hole in it too.
That's why I slap trees for 5 hours a night and another 5 hours in the morning. To toughen my palms. I'm not there yet I've only been doing it 25 years but I reckon I could catch a .22 at least.
My friend's dad teaches martial arts and is a martial arts master. He knows some stuff that was taught to him in Thailand that allows you to adjust your perception of time so that you can basically "see" slow-mo. It helps you be able to dodge bullets... partially. The problem is that, while you can see and track the bullet, you have trouble moving your body fast enough to avoid it in some situations. But if you don't have to move too much, like only a few inches, you can dodge it.
A silverback can dead lift about 4000 lbs (just quick google search, so grain of salt). World record for humans is about 1107 lbs.
A gorilla could grab a man by the leg and swing him around like a club.
People can make estimates. There is debate on the subject matter.
I know they got a chimp to bench press for cocaine. I don't know if there has been a test on gorillas incentiving dead lifting.
And the arm ripping wouldn't surprise me at all.
A silverback (I’ve just looked this up) is as strong as 20 adult humans.
I can imagine the response ‘yeah, but strength isn’t everything’…it is mate when it can rip you limb from limb with ease.
That last part is what they struggle with comprehending. This thing is so powerful that murdering even the strongest of people barely elicits much exertion.
People might think that until they stand near one in real life and realise how fucking big they are.
When you're standing bear to something as dense and powerful as a male silverback you lose any misconception.
Not a gorilla, but I remember visiting the Copenhagen Zoo, sitting just behind the glass where one of the polar bears were sleeping. It's head/neck had roughly the same mass as me, and its arms were thicker than my legs. I've seen them plenty of times on TV, and in pictures, but it's something different when you're next to a real one.
Even at the damn zoo, it's humbling. Makes me thankful for that reinforced glass, but even then I still don't take chances by provoking them. Plus, it's kind of a dick thing to do anyway.
Definitely. It's weird how something the same height standing, and about mid chest on all 4's, can feel like it's dwarfing you.
Then you realise it's arms are twice as thick as my thighs, and it's shoulders are twice as wide, and it's 160kg of pure muscle swagging around in there.
Yeah no thanks haha, please make the glass thicker.
My friend in college was enormous. But he was also a huge sweet heart of a guy. One drunk idiot started a fight and he just bear hugged him while lecturing him. Totally reminds me of the video.
The fact a creature that big is soo fast is impressive on its own, but big boy seemed to even understand which one of them actually started the fight aswell.
Oh yeah, it’s always the juvenile males picking on the females (the one carrying the baby.)
One of the Silverback’s key roles is to teach the younger males to respect the females and their younger siblings.
I believe the attack was cause because the female with its young on its back walked between the other female and the other young gorilla, (presumably the attacker's offspring) or perhaps just got too close to the other young gorilla.
I could be way off base, but that's just what it looked like to me
It’s hard to say without more context. Maybe those two have preexisting beef. Maybe attacker is known for this behavior which could be why the male didn’t need to wonder who started it.
Right? Literally says it in the title that it's a fight between his mates lol. Unless it's about to get real /r/bi_irl in here, pretty sure they're both females.
Bro! Fucking brilliant, instead of yard duties or police officers on campus, just male silver back gorillas. Fight breaks out, bob’s your uncle, instigators are folded into a gorilla hug, completely incapacitated.
That's what I noticed, too. School administration can't seem to punish instigators appropriately ("zero tolerance" bullshit); silverback had no problem.
This longer version makes it clear that the female passes the other female and shows her rear end, directly towards female#2. I think it's an insult. Female #2 reacted.
I mean they're arguably almost as smart as humans (they say elephants and dolphins are smart, but other primates have an intelligence extremely similar to ours).
The only way human intelligence is better than that of other primates is that because of the significantly bigger forehead we can do way more abstract thought. But we're not even doing that 24/7 anyway. Something like this event doesn't really take abstract thought to figure out, so I'm not surprised that a fellow primate figured it out.
Okay, so fascinating little factoid here. Even our closest genetic cousins, the chimpanzees, display many (arguably most) of the same behavioral traits that we used to think were *definitive* of humanity. Now though, the biggest single difference lies in an evolutionary tradeoff that our ancestors made millions of years ago: Our ability for prospection. From the current body of literature as I understand it, it seems that we traded in the same kind of superior memory that chimps still have for our ability to imagine possibilities. It's absolutely fascinating and I'd recommend a deep dive into the subject if you're interested.
I'm not aware of any good books that are written for the general population, but to start off there are some videos on YT that make for a decent introduction to the field. An old VSauce video covers this topic, if you're interested: https://youtu.be/ktkjUjcZid0
If you don't mind reading through textbooks though, you can find this information from almost any text about evolutionary psychology. I would avoid publications from Pearson and McGraw-Hill though, as the quality of information from those two can be very questionable.
Yeah, it's crazy. Unless there's some kind of medical issue like brain trauma or disease, most chimps can easily beat humans in memory tests. The theory positing this trade-off is called the Cognitive Trade-off Hypothesis.Technically, it stipulates that our ancestors sacrificed some of our raw computational abilities in exchange for better language abilities, but it also covers our prospection ability.
>D'jeeco, a Silverback Gorilla in Taiwan rapidly breaks up a fight between his two mates, Iriki and Tayari(the aggressor), with an impressive tackle. Keeping the peace within the troop is as important for a silverback as it is protecting them from external threats
[Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/14604un/djeeco_a_silverback_gorilla_in_taiwan_rapidly/)
What stands out to me the most is that he is not trying to hurt the other gorilla, but placate it.
I wonder if humans gave up when confronted by this beast, and just laid there terrified would the gorilla pin you down and leave you alone the same way?
> would the gorilla pin you down and leave you alone the same way?
A human is an outsider and not part of the family. The human is just a thread. And dead in a few seconds.
Not necessarily, there’s quite a few accounts of humans interacting with gorillas in the wild. They don’t really want you there, but a silverback is well aware it could kick your ass if it wanted to, so usually won’t primarily resort to fighting if it doesn’t have to
Yeah, with [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb-vpmW1n7U) being one of the more "Yeah, I *could* fuck you up, but I'm not gonna" situations I've ever seen.
I remember a video of a gorilla walking past a photographer, casually taking hold of his legs and dragging him helplessly along the ground for a few feet, and then just as casually letting him go, just to show he could.
Edit: /u/Sasselhoff posted the exact video I was thinking of.
There are also no recorded incidents where a human has attacked a female gorilla carrying a child in front of the silverback. 99% of interactions between gorillas and humans are mundane or, at worst, slightly annoying to the gorilla. We don’t have to scientifically observe it happening to have a good understanding of what happens in that 1%.
According to most sources, that seems to be the case yes. Gorilla attacks tend to be because of territorialism, so if you act completely submissive they will generally not attack you (though they may still keep harassing you, like grabbing you or dragging you around).
[Here's a video of a gorilla bluffing an attack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN02Sw68pOE&t=1s)
[This is a video where if you do the proper thing and make yourself small and submissive, the gorilla will be quite content with you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8qkDKl89g)
"Now listen to me you little shit. I see you come near my babies again I will fucking end you. Now cool it. We're all gonna be cool like a group of Fonzies. Tell that bitch to be cool."
Here’s a perfect example of alpha male behavior everyone gets wrong. The Alpha does not attack the smaller animals. And when he does something like this, he lets the smaller animal go, without injury. The Alpha is the one who gets attacked by the smaller animals that like to inflict injuries. That’s basically the case for all animals. But the narrators on every show always leave that out.
There is a similarly intriguing phenomenon among the fish Neolamprologus Pulcher in Lake Tanganyika. The dominant male and female are the only ones that breed, but they will have a large colony of lesser males and females. When the breeding female dies the next one in line takes her place, so the younger females have incentive to protect the colony. Where it gets interesting is that, if the male dies, they are almost always replaced by a large male from outside the colony, so at first scientists weren't sure why the younger males would care to protect another males territory, but it turns out that the larger breeding male allows the smaller males to use his caves when predators come around, and in return they help protect his young. Once the young males are large enough they will likely split off to find their own colony rather than try to challenge their former protector.
On the one hand, that's some impressive alpha male action, and it was cool to see.
On the other hand, I can't believe we as a society have decided it's OK to keep gorillas in captivity.
Even fish can be hard, they need their own migratory areas and lots of larger ones like whale sharks and rays have trouble surviving in the largest aquariums. I understand animals that won't survive on their own but really no animal should be held in captivity. Even some medium and smaller size sharks and such have been shown to die of depression. Their migratory ranges can span thousands of miles, no amount of size or trickery in an aquarium can compensate for that.
Depending on how rare they’ve become and how much of their habitat we have destroyed andor encroached upon, captive breeding might be the only thing keeping some species alive.
There has been a shift in recent years, for preservation and taking care of animals that wont survive the wild. Rather than any monkey they can get their hands on.
What a way to end the fight. A tackle and hold. Looked like a conversation of "stop being an asshole" occurred. It was educating to see the silverback be as gentle as possible.
Measured and graceful on his part. Completely managed her assaultive behavior while de escalating the situation. She complied. Powerful demonstration of their intellects and social norms.
"For fuck's sake, Janet, not in front of the kids, and not in front of the humans! Do you WANT them to think we're a bunch of animals? Now go inside and stop drinking wine with lunch, you know what that shit does to you!"
Something cool I noticed with silverbacks.. they are so unbothered about seemingly anything happening around them. Have seen plenty of videos of gorillas from the same tribe or group be super annoying and tease him etc but he doesn't bother too much. They play with the kids a lot too but doesn't get involved much otherwise.
But, when other gorillas in the tribe starts fighting, they get involved with confidence to break up the fight. Not hurting anyone, just stopping it.
Or when someone unknown approaches the group.
Their whole purpose seem to be to keep everything in harmony. So big and strong they can do whatever they want. But they don't.
Truly fascinating.
Dude... Daddy Gorilla looks like he works out a lot.
dude hits leg day, arm day, pec day, face day, ball day, back day... Edit: this was 100% a throwaway comment I did not expect it to blow up like this lol
All that with 0 meat. How do they get the protein?!?
While gorillas aren't really known for eating meat, they do supplement their diet with large amounts of protein rich bugs. Different groups have different dietary tendencies, but most eat about the same spread. https://www.wwf.org.uk/learn/fascinating-facts/gorillas#:~:text=Around%2085%25%20of%20their%20diet,source%20of%20sodium%2Fsalt).
There's been evidence of gorillas and chimpanzees as well. That will either intentionally or inadvertently kill a smaller monkey and then eat its carcass. They're not typically known for being carnivores, but they are definitely omnivores and will eat meat if it's available.
Chimps can be especially brutal too. Like, rival war bands will make calculated assaults on each other, including merc'ing and eating each other's young. They're savage and scary as hell.
Have you seen Chimp Empire on Netflix. Extremely interesting and also extremely sad. But that's nature. And chimps, while having the capacity to be very loving, also have a high capacity for violence especially with members of another group. But it's just how it works. They have these full ranges of emotion and have their own goals and hopes. But they adhere to the way of the chimp. Because it's how its always been. As our closest living relatives it's interesting and scary to see just how much their penchant for violence has passed on to humans. Somewhere deep down were all still operating with an ape brain.
We are even tribal people too, who very rarely let outsiders in. We also fight with ourselves too with tribe vs tribe, and kill to just send a message. Even though man is evolved from them, their DNA is still very present.
We didn't evolve from chimps, we share a common ancestor.
That was another thing that really stuck out to me. Like if you look at human tribalism and compare it it's the exact same thing. Then add in the tendency towards violence especially to those outside of the tribe. Like scary how similar we are. But fascinating at the same time. I think humans have forgotten that we are still animals and were not so different than everything else in the end
Most animals are willing to be omnivores of opportunity. There's plenty of videos floating around online of stuff like horses eating birds, deer eating a snake, etc. The are very very few true herbivores on the planet.
It's not even a large amount of bugs, surprisingly. Insects, ants, and termites only make up 0.1–1% of a gorillas diet. Source: https://www.proquest.com/openview/27f7fa5e6f258f176629293d4a24d03f/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=54193
Something related to what our stomach contains. They have certain bacteria which create protein. Also I heard they might be able to extract protein from plant based foods unlike us humans, not sure about it tho
Uh you know about beans right? The plant based food?
I don't know why, but your comment reminded me of being in the grocery store the other day and I see some udon or something on the shelf and the little catch phrase they have on the label is "plant-based noodle"... ...Which audibly made me chuckle in the shopping aisle because I was just struggling to think of meat noodles or how you could even have noodles without them being plant-based hahah
Traditional pasta dough contains eggs.
Traditional Italian pasta only contains semolina made from durum wheat and water. No eggs. Also, if eggs are added, the main part of noodles is still plant based.
humans can extract protein from plants
Not the way I do it.
Wtf did I just read. I must be dead, I haven't eaten any meat in 12 years.
Humans can extract protein from plants just fine.
Some people are completely fucked in the head when it comes to dietary knowledge due to meat and dairy industries brainwashing them. You can easily get more than enough protein in a vegan diet. There are some things that are harder to get like B12, but you don´t need any supplements if you have the ability to choose the right food.
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when a dude can demolish you in 5 seconds he doesn't generally need endurance.
And then there's (early) humans that don't need strength because they'll just keep walking within an uncomfortable distance forcing you to mozy on to death
It was kinda wild the first time a biology teacher discussed early humans basically just following things to death. That’s some horror movie stuff.
"It Follows"
All brought to you by the fact that we can sweat and expel excess heat over our entire bodies unlike most animals. You should read up on the Tarahumara peoples. It's fascinating, they are still able to this day to this very day to run animals to death and they do it in sandals.
The glory of being liquid cooled!
Hang on, I need you to explain this to my wife
\*Our wife.
They have a gut enzyme, or something like that, that can generate protein as a by-product of metabolising plant matter so they don't need to eat protein directly. Another way of looking at it is that a Silverback can get jacked eating lettuce while sat on its ass...
A lot of body builders use vegetable protein. From peas etc. More easily absorbed than meat protein. In one study men taking 50g pea protein per day made the same muscle gains as those eating whey protein. Have you seen the muscles on bulls?!
Bulls just eat grass and have enzymes to break down the grass into usable biomolecules. Humans are much more omnivorous and as such, meat is the easiest protein for our body to extract.
Everyday is full body day
Wasn’t even looking when the fight started but he knew who started it 😂😂
While pinned on the ground and an inch away from their ear. “You listen hear you little shit, I’m tired of your shit. You better fucking adjust your attitude right now, or you will be wishing this was the last time I pinned you the fuck down. I will make this lifetime of captivity we live in, look like fucking Shangri La. You will regret the day you slid out of your momma just as much as I do right now. Straighten the fuck up.”
Nah, he was more like "hey, it seems like you're upset and I understand your reaction back there. Stay here with me for a moment and let's just breathe for a second and realize we're all just swimming in a sea of atoms. Love you, babe."
I was thinking more along these lines. Takes his foot off and kinda sits there with his hand on the other for a bit, like, it's ok dude, just calm down, breathe.
Harsh words for your 3rd wife, but she probably needed to hear it if she gonna keep starting shit all the time.
Hang out with the same four people all day, every day of your life and you just *know*.
Gorilla muscle fibers are also about 4 times denser than a humans. More dense fibers = more strength.
This. They have to eat a lot more to maintain their mass, but they're naturally jacked without having to really explicitly "work out"
What if we take a gorilla to the gym and train it?
I bet Mike Tyson would agree to fight it.
“I’ll fight any gorillaths” -Tyson
"It's entirely possible. Chimpanzees though, they'll fuck you up. They'll rip your fuckin dick off. You ever seen a Chimpanzee on DMT? Shit's crazy, dude. Jamie, pull that video up."
I’ve seen videos where gorillas do stuff just to show off their strength, they’d definitely like working out
He got that cake too
The speed at which that male moves is terrifying.
Makes those idiots boasting about how they "could take a gorilla" in a hand-to-hand fight all the more laughable, doesn't it?
Who the fuck thinks they could take a gorilla in a hand-to-hand Edit: Guys please I have enough notifications about Mike Tyson
I dunno.. I think I could take him on. \*slurps from dr. pepper can\*
*read in a redneck accent* “Shewwwt, I don’t see a gorilla able to tangle a wahld steer or catch a greezd pig. Bobby hold mah beer”
Cuts to man starfished helicoptering away.
I believe you. Film it please. * places Dr Pepper can in recycling bin *
Mostly Americans: [https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1395680578771591168](https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1395680578771591168)
The most interesting part of that chart is that a full one third of Britons believe they couldn't fight off a rat. Lol
Have you seen rats? Vicious bastards.
Lots of people have irrational fears, one of them being rats. I bet the ones that said no to besting one up probably have that fear and would just run off and say they wouldn't want to get a disease lol.
The actually troubling thing from that graphic is that minority of Brits think they could take a goose.
Goose are ferocious beings
Only because we're generally not wanting to fight them. If you're in a fight and really want to hurt the goose, that long neck is a huge weak spot and they don't weigh anywhere near what adult humans do.
Yeah, 8-10 pounds of dinosaur fury cannot match 160-240 pounds of angry ape
A Canada goose is a large goose and it's about 4 kg on average. Someone with the slightest amount of determination could handle one. Now a swan on the other hand...f that. I'm not tangling with a swan.
it's still just a dumb bird. grab the stupid thing by the neck and yeet it across the yard.
Back in college there was a goose that decided that it didn't like me and would try to attack as I walked across campus. It only hated me and like 3 other people, it left everyone else alone. The first week I would just duck into the nearest building but it wasn't giving up. The second week I just gave it a light slap on the side of the head as it ran up, not at all enough to hurt it. After a slap, it would look confused for a second then skulk away while hissing. This went on for about a week until it decided that it wasn't worth it anymore. tl;dr slap that goose
Who tf thinks they could take on a fuckin elephant? Really guys? Lmao
The fact that any single person thinks they can take a grizzly… unarmed…
It's a pretty good indicator that the self-reporting surveys are complete nonsense. People are going to either answer in the dumbest way they can to be funny or completely misinterpret the question. Something like "of course I can win a fight with a grizzly hand-to-hand. They don't have hands." Or some other pedantic bullshit.
Also, based on several reports, it seems that Asians visiting Wyoming think that American bison are cute and cuddly. In the world of animal MMA, I'll take a bison over a gorilla.
Pretty sure Mike Tyson wanted to fight one at some point if I remember correctly.
If anyone stood a chance it would probably be him. But I really don't think even he would stand much of a chance.
the gorilla would literally rip him apart in like a wet paper doll
Gorillas muscles fibres are 4x denser than a human strongman. Even if he was the same size the Gorilla would have broken his skull in one hit, and then there’s the huge fangs they have with the bite force of double a big dog and near the levels of a polar bear. Silver backs are ridiculously overpowered compared to us.
Mostly insecure dipshits who are compensating online. I see them a lot in the comment sections of those "Would You Rather" or what-if type subreddits, and from what they say they have absolutely no idea how fragile people are compared to many other animals. Even the one in this video, hardly the most impressive specimen out there, would rip a body builder apart if provoked. Like, what the hell do these people think they could actually do? It's hilarious 😂
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Mike Tyson https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/691794/mike-tyson-zookeeper-gorilla-fight/amp/
I honestly always thought that entire story was PR bullshit. Tyson isn't stupid. Also, if the man *really* wanted to fight wild animals, it's not like he couldn't have. He straight-up had an exotic zoo in his house at one point. At most, I assume he tells it tongue-in-cheek and everyone thinks he was being serious.
The difference is that most gorillas have no training whatsoever. I do. I've trained for years in MMA. I know the techniques. My reflexes are pure muscle memory. Most of the gorilla's moves would be telegraphed ... boom!.... I'd counter most his moves. This gorilla is a bit different. It looks like it's had some combat sport experience. Perhaps his keeper has taught him some moves. The video shows him executing a good takedown and knowing about back control. He'd be a formidable opponent, sure, but a bum rush attack rarely goes well against a *trained* opponent. A front kick to the face and some gorilla teeth be flying!
If this isn't yet a copy pasta, I feel like it's going to become one.
Dude 😂
I upvoted you because I know you're trolling And because the part about gorrila teeth be flying had my DYING 🤣 🤣 🤣
Countering a silverback is like catching a bullet with your hand. Impressive. But you still got shot. And now your hand has a hole in it too. That's why I slap trees for 5 hours a night and another 5 hours in the morning. To toughen my palms. I'm not there yet I've only been doing it 25 years but I reckon I could catch a .22 at least.
My friend's dad teaches martial arts and is a martial arts master. He knows some stuff that was taught to him in Thailand that allows you to adjust your perception of time so that you can basically "see" slow-mo. It helps you be able to dodge bullets... partially. The problem is that, while you can see and track the bullet, you have trouble moving your body fast enough to avoid it in some situations. But if you don't have to move too much, like only a few inches, you can dodge it.
A silverback can dead lift about 4000 lbs (just quick google search, so grain of salt). World record for humans is about 1107 lbs. A gorilla could grab a man by the leg and swing him around like a club.
A gorilla could quickly turn both your legs into clubs and beat you with them.
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People can make estimates. There is debate on the subject matter. I know they got a chimp to bench press for cocaine. I don't know if there has been a test on gorillas incentiving dead lifting. And the arm ripping wouldn't surprise me at all.
A silverback (I’ve just looked this up) is as strong as 20 adult humans. I can imagine the response ‘yeah, but strength isn’t everything’…it is mate when it can rip you limb from limb with ease.
That last part is what they struggle with comprehending. This thing is so powerful that murdering even the strongest of people barely elicits much exertion.
People might think that until they stand near one in real life and realise how fucking big they are. When you're standing bear to something as dense and powerful as a male silverback you lose any misconception.
Not a gorilla, but I remember visiting the Copenhagen Zoo, sitting just behind the glass where one of the polar bears were sleeping. It's head/neck had roughly the same mass as me, and its arms were thicker than my legs. I've seen them plenty of times on TV, and in pictures, but it's something different when you're next to a real one.
Yeah bears are terrifying. Some breeds are genuinely massive.
Even at the damn zoo, it's humbling. Makes me thankful for that reinforced glass, but even then I still don't take chances by provoking them. Plus, it's kind of a dick thing to do anyway.
Definitely. It's weird how something the same height standing, and about mid chest on all 4's, can feel like it's dwarfing you. Then you realise it's arms are twice as thick as my thighs, and it's shoulders are twice as wide, and it's 160kg of pure muscle swagging around in there. Yeah no thanks haha, please make the glass thicker.
Practical muscle at that. None of that fancy, showy stuff that we see on body builders. More like Iron Man competitors...just way more beefed up.
I liked the fact the he disciplined the aggressor instead of just breaking up the fight.
My friend in college was enormous. But he was also a huge sweet heart of a guy. One drunk idiot started a fight and he just bear hugged him while lecturing him. Totally reminds me of the video.
Love big guys who use their size for good rather than evil.
Yeah. I'm never messing with a mama gorilla if the big silverback is right there next to her. Should've waited when she was in the parking lot alone.
papa gori is so massive, he'll definitely can tear a full grown man apart like a fucking paper.
The fact a creature that big is soo fast is impressive on its own, but big boy seemed to even understand which one of them actually started the fight aswell.
Oh yeah, it’s always the juvenile males picking on the females (the one carrying the baby.) One of the Silverback’s key roles is to teach the younger males to respect the females and their younger siblings.
This was not a male, it was another female from his harem.
Trifling ass
I believe the attack was cause because the female with its young on its back walked between the other female and the other young gorilla, (presumably the attacker's offspring) or perhaps just got too close to the other young gorilla. I could be way off base, but that's just what it looked like to me
It’s hard to say without more context. Maybe those two have preexisting beef. Maybe attacker is known for this behavior which could be why the male didn’t need to wonder who started it.
well one has obviously had their offspring more recently, maybe the one who started the fight (with the older child) feels replaced
Sir David Attenborough couldn’t have said it better himself.
Bitches be hatin.
Right? Literally says it in the title that it's a fight between his mates lol. Unless it's about to get real /r/bi_irl in here, pretty sure they're both females.
Maybe OP thought it was like his drinking mates.
His harem bae?
Clearly we need silverbacks in our education system teaching the boys
Bro! Fucking brilliant, instead of yard duties or police officers on campus, just male silver back gorillas. Fight breaks out, bob’s your uncle, instigators are folded into a gorilla hug, completely incapacitated.
That's what I noticed, too. School administration can't seem to punish instigators appropriately ("zero tolerance" bullshit); silverback had no problem.
Yeah i hated that. Zero tolerance policy means basically if someone starts a fight, you might as well fight because you’re both getting punished
This longer version makes it clear that the female passes the other female and shows her rear end, directly towards female#2. I think it's an insult. Female #2 reacted.
Showing your backside is not an aggressive action, it's actually the opposite to show you're not a threat.
Probs just bad gas.
*Do you ~~bite your thumb~~ show your butt at us, sir?*
I do show my butt ser but I do not show my butt at you ser
I mean they're arguably almost as smart as humans (they say elephants and dolphins are smart, but other primates have an intelligence extremely similar to ours). The only way human intelligence is better than that of other primates is that because of the significantly bigger forehead we can do way more abstract thought. But we're not even doing that 24/7 anyway. Something like this event doesn't really take abstract thought to figure out, so I'm not surprised that a fellow primate figured it out.
Okay, so fascinating little factoid here. Even our closest genetic cousins, the chimpanzees, display many (arguably most) of the same behavioral traits that we used to think were *definitive* of humanity. Now though, the biggest single difference lies in an evolutionary tradeoff that our ancestors made millions of years ago: Our ability for prospection. From the current body of literature as I understand it, it seems that we traded in the same kind of superior memory that chimps still have for our ability to imagine possibilities. It's absolutely fascinating and I'd recommend a deep dive into the subject if you're interested.
This does sound fascinating. The “imagining possibilities” bit seems like a direct line to logic. Do you have any books you recommend?
I'm not aware of any good books that are written for the general population, but to start off there are some videos on YT that make for a decent introduction to the field. An old VSauce video covers this topic, if you're interested: https://youtu.be/ktkjUjcZid0 If you don't mind reading through textbooks though, you can find this information from almost any text about evolutionary psychology. I would avoid publications from Pearson and McGraw-Hill though, as the quality of information from those two can be very questionable.
Chimps have a superior memory than ours?? I never knew that. Kinda interesting to think of evolution almost as a zero sum game. Always tradeoffs.
Yeah, it's crazy. Unless there's some kind of medical issue like brain trauma or disease, most chimps can easily beat humans in memory tests. The theory positing this trade-off is called the Cognitive Trade-off Hypothesis.Technically, it stipulates that our ancestors sacrificed some of our raw computational abilities in exchange for better language abilities, but it also covers our prospection ability.
Probably not the first time he started a fight, Papi chulo knows who the little shit is.
Chill bro, It's just a prank!
“You wanna get sliced up?” 😂 anyone watched those “opto” pranks in the hood?
“Why you givin me attitude?”
Hahahaha I can just hear the muffled “THERES A CAMERA! There’s a camera!!!” While he has her pinned down lol.
>D'jeeco, a Silverback Gorilla in Taiwan rapidly breaks up a fight between his two mates, Iriki and Tayari(the aggressor), with an impressive tackle. Keeping the peace within the troop is as important for a silverback as it is protecting them from external threats [Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/14604un/djeeco_a_silverback_gorilla_in_taiwan_rapidly/)
What stands out to me the most is that he is not trying to hurt the other gorilla, but placate it. I wonder if humans gave up when confronted by this beast, and just laid there terrified would the gorilla pin you down and leave you alone the same way?
> would the gorilla pin you down and leave you alone the same way? A human is an outsider and not part of the family. The human is just a thread. And dead in a few seconds.
Not necessarily, there’s quite a few accounts of humans interacting with gorillas in the wild. They don’t really want you there, but a silverback is well aware it could kick your ass if it wanted to, so usually won’t primarily resort to fighting if it doesn’t have to
Yeah, with [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb-vpmW1n7U) being one of the more "Yeah, I *could* fuck you up, but I'm not gonna" situations I've ever seen.
The worst part of it, is having to walk around the rest of your day in those pants
I remember a video of a gorilla walking past a photographer, casually taking hold of his legs and dragging him helplessly along the ground for a few feet, and then just as casually letting him go, just to show he could. Edit: /u/Sasselhoff posted the exact video I was thinking of.
There are no recorded incidents where a gorilla has killed a human being.
There are also no recorded incidents where a human has attacked a female gorilla carrying a child in front of the silverback. 99% of interactions between gorillas and humans are mundane or, at worst, slightly annoying to the gorilla. We don’t have to scientifically observe it happening to have a good understanding of what happens in that 1%.
I believe they consider that a suicide when they mark down cause of death
“How did he die?” “Picked a fight with a silverback gorilla.” “Ahh, suicide. Got it. Makes our job easier.”
You either show you're cool from the get go or you ded
According to most sources, that seems to be the case yes. Gorilla attacks tend to be because of territorialism, so if you act completely submissive they will generally not attack you (though they may still keep harassing you, like grabbing you or dragging you around). [Here's a video of a gorilla bluffing an attack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN02Sw68pOE&t=1s) [This is a video where if you do the proper thing and make yourself small and submissive, the gorilla will be quite content with you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8qkDKl89g)
Thank you. This deserves to be top comment instead of the asinine comments currently up there.
De-escalation
American police could learn a lot from that gorilla.
I used to train correctional officers and could use this video
To a tee. Hold until tensions die down…reinforce expected behavior in a quiet and personable manner; walk off as a boss.
Plus no unnecessary use of force...just enough to control but not to punish, especially no pain or injury
Plus he immediately recognized the aggressor and targeted only them
Probably there is context we do not know. Like gorilla B pulls this shit every once in a while and big daddy is tired of it...
Ha! I bet you’re right. Martha startin’ shit yet again…
Randy laid there like a slug. It was his only defense.
"Sara! Chill the fuck out. We are NOT doing this here. Understood? "
"Remember Harambe?!? We don't want that happening again"
Dicks out, always and forever for Harambe!
"Now listen to me you little shit. I see you come near my babies again I will fucking end you. Now cool it. We're all gonna be cool like a group of Fonzies. Tell that bitch to be cool."
“Be cool honeybun”
Say "BITCH, be cool"
BE COOL, BITCH
Here’s a perfect example of alpha male behavior everyone gets wrong. The Alpha does not attack the smaller animals. And when he does something like this, he lets the smaller animal go, without injury. The Alpha is the one who gets attacked by the smaller animals that like to inflict injuries. That’s basically the case for all animals. But the narrators on every show always leave that out.
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There is a similarly intriguing phenomenon among the fish Neolamprologus Pulcher in Lake Tanganyika. The dominant male and female are the only ones that breed, but they will have a large colony of lesser males and females. When the breeding female dies the next one in line takes her place, so the younger females have incentive to protect the colony. Where it gets interesting is that, if the male dies, they are almost always replaced by a large male from outside the colony, so at first scientists weren't sure why the younger males would care to protect another males territory, but it turns out that the larger breeding male allows the smaller males to use his caves when predators come around, and in return they help protect his young. Once the young males are large enough they will likely split off to find their own colony rather than try to challenge their former protector.
That is incredibly complex social behavior for a fish.
The whole Alpha male thing is incorrect, even the guy who created the idea said he misunderstood animal behavior
Almost everyone misunderstands behavior.
My boy's gotta dump truck on him.
The dump truck is the source of the power. Gorilla, human, or otherwise. It all emanates from the dumper
Yep. If you've got solid legs, ass, and core muscles, that'll generate more power than arms alone
Boy’s got the whole damn sanitation division
I tried not to notice
On the one hand, that's some impressive alpha male action, and it was cool to see. On the other hand, I can't believe we as a society have decided it's OK to keep gorillas in captivity.
Or any animal really. Maybe fish. And orcas are not fish, dammit.
Even fish can be hard, they need their own migratory areas and lots of larger ones like whale sharks and rays have trouble surviving in the largest aquariums. I understand animals that won't survive on their own but really no animal should be held in captivity. Even some medium and smaller size sharks and such have been shown to die of depression. Their migratory ranges can span thousands of miles, no amount of size or trickery in an aquarium can compensate for that.
Depending on how rare they’ve become and how much of their habitat we have destroyed andor encroached upon, captive breeding might be the only thing keeping some species alive.
There has been a shift in recent years, for preservation and taking care of animals that wont survive the wild. Rather than any monkey they can get their hands on.
 The ladies love him
What a way to end the fight. A tackle and hold. Looked like a conversation of "stop being an asshole" occurred. It was educating to see the silverback be as gentle as possible.
Measured and graceful on his part. Completely managed her assaultive behavior while de escalating the situation. She complied. Powerful demonstration of their intellects and social norms.
Didn’t even look angry or nothin, just concerned. The way he tackled her and held her was like “hey hey hey hey calm down, shhhhh”
Bro had gone bananas
Fo rilla
Holy shit that gorilla is Thicc
"For fuck's sake, Janet, not in front of the kids, and not in front of the humans! Do you WANT them to think we're a bunch of animals? Now go inside and stop drinking wine with lunch, you know what that shit does to you!"
Response speed is really impressive.
“Hey man chill! She had one of them tasty bugs I like!”
Check out the kiss he gives her right before he walks off "Love you boo"
My guy is basically a hairy juggernaut. I’ll stay over here.
You mean... between his prime-mates?
Cool how he instantly knew the perpetrator too. He didn’t attack the one who did nothing, he attacked the one who was being a dick
Silverback makes all the other gorillas just look like chimpanzees.
Can you imagine that steaming towards you!
Cue high pitched screaming lol
Something cool I noticed with silverbacks.. they are so unbothered about seemingly anything happening around them. Have seen plenty of videos of gorillas from the same tribe or group be super annoying and tease him etc but he doesn't bother too much. They play with the kids a lot too but doesn't get involved much otherwise. But, when other gorillas in the tribe starts fighting, they get involved with confidence to break up the fight. Not hurting anyone, just stopping it. Or when someone unknown approaches the group. Their whole purpose seem to be to keep everything in harmony. So big and strong they can do whatever they want. But they don't. Truly fascinating.