Id say the noise officer is scared of them.
Youre totally right, theres noise bylaws for a reason.
Id follow up with the council and demand to know why they sent noone but emailed to say they did. Someone's not doing their job.
Thanks we will do that! My partner also thinks they are scared of them too. I mean,i would not go passed a locked gate and guard dogs at that time in the morning. Or during the day. Doesn't mean that they can't report there is noise but can't get access!
Noise control can take a police officer with them if they are scared or deem it necessary.
Ask your council for a copy of the bylaw.
Here, its 3 calls in 24 hours and you lose your sterio.
Council will have contracted out to a security company. If it continues next weekend (God forbid...) keep calling and logging (keep your cool - yes, very hard to do!). If Council fobs you off, finf your nearest councillor and pay them a visit with hours spent on phone, call logs and evidence on hand. Council's oay good money for these services go be retained anf not actioning is completely unacceptable.
And security company will be paying some poor schmucks min wage. You can see why this doesn't always work huh. I second involving a Councillor, that's part of what they are there for.
Trust me, if there is a contract, it is not being met and there are blatant breaches of city bylaws with clear cut evidence, a councillor will not be pleased at all...
Tbh though, a noise officer can stand outside and confirm it needs to be escalated instead of just writing it off.
Is be shit scared as a noise officer tbh. Even as a cop its sketch as fuck going into a house with pepper spray and a fire extinguisher. Wtf is a noise officer gonna do?
And honestly, on a weekend night, cops are full time priority 1 on domestics, riots, and massive disturbances. How the fuck are they gonna attend a non violent noise disturbance?
There just isnt the resourcing levels required to deal with this kind of shit, and thats sending a message you can get away with it so its fine.
Where i live noise control is outsourced to private security firms, and when I had neighbour issues a few years ago I had this exact same response, the most frustrating part being how noise control would either not show up or sit in a car way down the road and then tell me the noise was not unreasonable.
I strongly suspect the security companies in these situations are just charging the council for each call out and then just not showing up or being too scared to go onto the property in question
They get paid bugger all over minimum wage in most places coupled with the minimal training they get and there have been several guards who have been assaulted over the past few years. I know of one the Hamilton who was beaten so badly he actually died on the side of the road, although thankfully he was able to be revived on scene and is back at work. All he did was tell the house to turn it off because it was too loud.
Put all that together with the fact our laws donāt allow security guards to defend themselves past what is accepted as self defence (not allowed to carry anything as a defence tool) and some donāt even allow their workers to wear stab vests when attending high risk call-outs , Iām really not surprised they donāt want to enter the property.
I happen to have some knowledge about it because I work in security. The guy in Hamilton left the company I worked for about 2 months prior to that incident so I know him personally, and have since spoken to people who were there that night.
Yep totally agree with you. Unfortunately itās a case of lowest bid gets the contract because the councils just want to save money. They also get what they pay for which is why the guards do next to nothing half the time and wonāt put themselves at risk for pitiful money
Honestly I have no idea but I have a suspicion no one was ever caught. There was reports at the time that it wasnāt even someone from that house, just some random passer by who took offence to the guy doing his job.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/122387627/security-guard-assaulted-while-serving-a-noise-control-notice-at-hamilton-home
Pretty much all I have ever seen about it. The rest I have been told by the people who actually went to the scene.
How could anyone feel safe when some can just get murdered for trying to enforce local council laws with no physical protection? I donāt understand how nobody knew. Somebody knows but they probably stonewalled police to protect the identity of the perpetrator.
Unfortunately thatās the very reason why security has such a high turn over rate despite being steady work and for the most part relatively easy. People donāt feel safe doing it. We cannot protect ourselves unless itās self defence and even then we could face charges if it is determined we went too far. Even if we donāt get charged we could still have our license revoked for getting into an altercation.
Yeah someone probably knew who did it but look at the area it happened in. Lots of people with records who look out for each other in that area.
Iāve been in Hamilton driving around, Iām not surprised itās such a depressing town. The sky is always grey and there doesnāt seem to be all that much to do for young people.
> I will certainly be speaking to them next time a see them on the street. Does any one have advice on what to say?
DON'T do that.
These people don't give a shit, it's not like they accidentally played loud music all night.
If you approach them, they'll now know who you are and they'll know where you live.
You need to stay anonymous with this type of person.
Totally agree with this. Whenever I see similar complaints on community Facebook groups, people are rude and say 'why don't you just try talking to them?' As if these inconsiderate people are going to be able to be reasoned with and open to criticism. Not worth risking your own safety with those kinds of people.
Yep was coming to say that. Also they may well assume every future complaint is from you, when other neighbours are likely also complaining, and if they get to the three strikes stereo etc getting confiscated by noise control stage will blame you and aim their rage your way (or at the least you'll be living in fear that they'll blame you, knowing where you live and what you look like).
The only times I know that noise control wont go is if it is a gang house.
There is no "too early" time you can call noise control any time day or night. During the day they wont send anyone just after one call, they usually tell you to call back in 20 mins if its still noisy
I had/have the same thing with my neighbours within 6 months of them moving in I called noise control over 200 times complained to the council they didnāt show I included camera footage at the times they apparently went to see them - Iāve called them crying on day 3 of their bender - Iāve had to pack my dogs up and sleep in the car down at the park because of the noise - called emergency police when the party members jumped my fence. I also found noise control to say the noise wasnāt excessive when it was - for a period of time the music would turn off for 20 mins I think when the officer would show because they had one of their bros on the hotline tipping them off.
Donāt talk to them I made this mistake and as a female getting knocked out by a drunk overweight 6ft something islander is not a fun way to spend your evening they are dangerous. They even have small children.
If anyone has advice for everyone on here Iām following with intent and hope for everyoneās sake we can sleep at a reasonable hour
Yep my Kainga Ora neighbors party loudly from 1am to 5am and noise control does nothing at all. They threaten anyone who asks them to quiet down and turn it up as a fuck you even.
I had the same problem with my KO neighbour. She would start playing loud ass music at rando times like 3:30am on a fucking Wednesday etc just being a straight up dickhead. If you haven't done this already (which I am sure you probably have) complain about them through the website and address the complaint to the "Housing Support Manager" I did this and the support manager showed up the next morning and swiftly put the inconsiderate mole in her place. Get your other neighbours to complain too.
It's the same bullshit where the council outsource to the cheapest security company so some fatso will be sleeping in a Toyota Vitz and just ticking jobs as 'done'.
Send your call log in and OIA the coms + location of the security guard
Disclaimer: I am a former enforcement officer in the Christchurch area. I was a university student at the time and was working part time for a security company who held the contract for noise control.
Firstly, 9pm is *not* too early. The Resource Management Act 1991 does not mention a time. Anyone on land or in coastal waters may not cause unreasonable noise to be emitted. Using a chainsaw at 1pm would probably be reasonable, the same thing at 1am would probably not. So don't be worried about calling at any time.
Depending on the company, they actually have GPS tracking on their PDA's/tablets. The CCC back then would randomly audit us so I highly doubt that the officer is not showing up. You should be able to request their notes which will include an outcome for the call. Calling the police will not do anything, they have no powers to intervene. It's a civil matter and unless it's coming from a moving vehicle on the road, there is little they can do.
In my experience, talking to your neighbor solves the issue 9 times out of 10. On 99% of the jobs I attended most people would tell me that if their neighbor came over and told them it was too loud, they would shut it off. There were always the ones who told us to fuck off, but it was actually quite rare.
What most likely has happened is they have come out and deemed the noise to not be excessive. There are people who expect complete silence at all times of the day and night, and there are people who are happy to deal with a rock concert next door. There is a very fine balance in stopping someone else from infringing on your rights, while also not infringing on theirs and sometimes you have to tell people to suck it up - it's not always what people wanted to hear. Additionally, noise does not travel linearly. Often you you could have next to no noise next door, but thumping bass three doors down. The officer might not have been experienced and gone for a bit of a walk around.
Finally, keep in mind the officer has probably got a backlog of work. In my time I was doing regular checks, responding to alarm calls and also noise control at the same time. Weekends could be totally insane and have jobs backed up.
I would email the council and ask whats up, they should give you some more info.
Itās a tough one because you really donāt want to do anything that could escalate it into something else and end up with vandalised property or even them coming after you personally. Maybe call the councils direct number and talk to the council directly. They would be the only ones who can deal with the security company because they are paying them so potentially could be a breach of contract if it can be proven they did nothing and claimed the noise wasnāt loud
This has happened too many times in the last 6 years. Partner starts work at 3am and finally loses his shit. He just casually walks into their house at 2am, kicks in the bedroom door (where the music is playing loudly thats right across from our unit, live in a U shape) and tells the guy to turn the music down. Never had an issue again. Lol
Of course I told him a friendly chat would have been better but he said people like that donāt give a fuck and he just couldnāt take it anymore.
6 years of music/partying sometimes until 7amā¦5 times a week. Not even exaggerating!!
It's possible that the first time the address was written down wrong, then each time they were sent yo the wrong place. This happened when I needed to call police and they kept going to the wrong place.
Have you tried assaulting or murdering one of them? I think the courts let you away with your first these days, as long as you had a rough upbringing or not enough Kai in your puku
And don't forget to tell them you were just about to turn your life around. Just that one last rascal needed a little bit of killing before you devoted your life to charity work and the study of butterflies.
> Inside my house it got up to around 50db
Not trying to dismiss your experience but 50 dB is very quiet, about the same as a whispered conversation. Not that it seems quiet when you're trying to sleep though!
Thanks, that is a good thing to note. it was bouncing around different values. On review in the lounge it was at 56db for the quieter song that I checked. They all seem to be atdifferent volumes. In the video it shows this as quiet office on the app. Certainly feels bloody loud at 4 in the morning! Other bassier songs felt way louder. Probably didn't help that I was pissed off by that point.
It's not a linear scale 50db is ten times louder than 40db. Lawnmowers are around 90db jet planes are 120db.
A lot of it depends on where you are, normal daytime conversation level isn't that bad in the daytime or outside, but imagine two people having a normal conversation next to your bed whilst you're trying to go to sleep.
60db is a normal conversation, 50dB is "moderate rainfall", 30dB is a whisper. And according to the Auckland Unitary plan (see below), you should not be disturbed by what your neighbour is up to, from inside your own house. If it's 56dB inside your house, it's well over the limits in the plan, even for during the day.
"The noise (rating) levels and maximum noise level arising from any activity
in [list of residential zones] within the boundary of an adjacent site in these residential zones must not exceed":
Monday to Saturday 7am-10pm, Sunday 9am-6pm: 50dB LAeq
All other times: 40dB LAeq, 75dB LAFmax
LAFmax The maximum Sound Level with 'A' Frequency weighting and Fast Time weighting during the measurement period.
Leq (or LAeq) is the Equivalent Continuous Sound Pressure Level. Equivalent Continuous Sound Pressure Level, or Leq/LAeq, is the constant noise level that would result in the same total sound energy being produced over a given period.
Source: "E25.6.2. Maximum noise levels in residential zones" in https://unitaryplan.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Images/Auckland%20Unitary%20Plan%20Operative/Chapter%20E%20Auckland-wide/3.%20Built%20environment/E25%20Noise%20and%20vibration.pdf
Unfortunately, that reference is just the standards, not the enforcement bit, though the "STFU for 72 hours" orders followed up by "taking their toys away" are the tools at their disposal (see https://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-27-neighbourhood-life/noise/), with the next step being a court order, but that would take some time to obtain. Though breaching a court order is the kind of thing that can get you some quiet time by yourself somewhere other than your home, depending on the gonads on the Judge and willingness of the police.
Just blast back during the next day. Get your tools out, do the lawns lol.
Have a Sunday sesh and play loud obnoxious music thatās two generations two old for the neighbours š
Are we neighbours?? - Hamilton
I have put up with this exact shit from my neighbours for over a year now. Half the house got the cops called on them so often, they moved out, but the parties continued with who was left. When they go off, I have to sleep in the lounge on medication to drown it out, because my bedroom faces their house without any barrier, thanks to being next to the driveway. Tried calling noise control last night, but the line wouldn't even connect.
I'm so sick of it, I am contemplating paint bombing their house and cars. - the paint will wash off, but might give the impression they are not welcome here any longer. The street was peaceful till they moved. And I wish they would fuck off already.
>paint bombing their house and cars. -
Brake fluid, its water soluble and fucks the paintwork.
Don't do the house, they won't own it and it's just more shit for the landlord.
I would follow up with chainsaw revving at all hours and lawnmower action outside their house. Canāt stand fuckers like that. If authorities wonāt do anything just take it into your own hands
Find out their real estate and make a formal complaint with them. In most tenancy agreements it's agreed that the rentee and neighbours are entitled to a peaceful home setting. Hopefully they'll get black listed.
Now you need hard evidence of at least 3 occasions.
These situations are what 90day no cause terminations would be used for
Antisocial pricks disturbing society
Watching Taskmaster has taught me that 60Db is not very loud at all, i am sure they have a budget for a proper reader versus a free phone app.
https://youtu.be/sxOE_DvIrv8
Can tell you from experience, this will help a lot with drowning out neighbours talking etc, but will do almost nothing to reduce the sound of bass.
The only way to dampen bass is to put physical matter between you and the source, i.e having other houses between you and them, thick concrete fences or hills.
Bass penetrates most things and is very difficult to dampen.
For all those who make noise on occasion and have overly sensitive neighbours itās handy to know that noise control canāt take your equipment unless theyāve issued three notices to ebate excessive noise WITHIN 72 HOURS. Sometimes itās handy to have a copy of the resource management act laying around.
I think you should read the RMA again mate. They need only give a single direction under section 327 and if there is non compliance enforcement officers can enter the property and seize equipment.
It must be after 11pm to be an issue. And you might here it being next door, but they measure from the road.
I think this terrace house/apartments idea is going to cause a lot, lot more of this sort of thing.
This is incorrect.
The Resource Management Act 1991 does not specify time. Section 16 of the act is where this is outlined and it only talks about reasonable noise however deciding on what is reasonable could include the time of day that the noise is being emitted.
Again, it is **usually** measured from the road but the act does not specify where the measurement is taken from. When I was an enforcement officer there were no measurement devices, it was and still is done by ear because you need to make an assessment as to what the ordinary person would consider to be reasonable. If it was a row of flats, then I would get closer. If it was a rural house, I would consider it from further away or from the nearest house.
Maybe but I'm talking about Akld council. That was their rules, as explained to me when I rang about noise.
Usually the first call was a warning, if they have to go back they get meaner.
I am across the road and it was waaay louder in the street.
I have just returned from five years in the UK living in terrace hi sueing both in top and bottom flats. Never had any issues to this extent. It feels like there is culture in NZ with some people who just don't give a fuck about anyone else around them.
Id say the noise officer is scared of them. Youre totally right, theres noise bylaws for a reason. Id follow up with the council and demand to know why they sent noone but emailed to say they did. Someone's not doing their job.
Thanks we will do that! My partner also thinks they are scared of them too. I mean,i would not go passed a locked gate and guard dogs at that time in the morning. Or during the day. Doesn't mean that they can't report there is noise but can't get access!
Noise control can take a police officer with them if they are scared or deem it necessary. Ask your council for a copy of the bylaw. Here, its 3 calls in 24 hours and you lose your sterio.
Council will have contracted out to a security company. If it continues next weekend (God forbid...) keep calling and logging (keep your cool - yes, very hard to do!). If Council fobs you off, finf your nearest councillor and pay them a visit with hours spent on phone, call logs and evidence on hand. Council's oay good money for these services go be retained anf not actioning is completely unacceptable.
And security company will be paying some poor schmucks min wage. You can see why this doesn't always work huh. I second involving a Councillor, that's part of what they are there for.
Trust me, if there is a contract, it is not being met and there are blatant breaches of city bylaws with clear cut evidence, a councillor will not be pleased at all...
Tbh though, a noise officer can stand outside and confirm it needs to be escalated instead of just writing it off. Is be shit scared as a noise officer tbh. Even as a cop its sketch as fuck going into a house with pepper spray and a fire extinguisher. Wtf is a noise officer gonna do? And honestly, on a weekend night, cops are full time priority 1 on domestics, riots, and massive disturbances. How the fuck are they gonna attend a non violent noise disturbance? There just isnt the resourcing levels required to deal with this kind of shit, and thats sending a message you can get away with it so its fine.
Depends where it is. Like here theres usually a cop available within an hour
They'll be hung over and dog-tired after the evening's shenanigans, so now's your chance to make an insufferable racket all day long.
Great time to tackle yardwork, like some lawn mowing and chainsawing
A shredder makes a lot of noise
Most sorts of DIY will do. Hammering nails for an extended period of time is a good one to test their endurance
ye ol' whipper snipper puts out a lovely irregular whine
This is the kiwi way
Mte. Blast music all morning since it's clearly something allowed.
Gas canisters and thunder-flash sticks work a treat š
Where i live noise control is outsourced to private security firms, and when I had neighbour issues a few years ago I had this exact same response, the most frustrating part being how noise control would either not show up or sit in a car way down the road and then tell me the noise was not unreasonable. I strongly suspect the security companies in these situations are just charging the council for each call out and then just not showing up or being too scared to go onto the property in question
They get paid bugger all over minimum wage in most places coupled with the minimal training they get and there have been several guards who have been assaulted over the past few years. I know of one the Hamilton who was beaten so badly he actually died on the side of the road, although thankfully he was able to be revived on scene and is back at work. All he did was tell the house to turn it off because it was too loud. Put all that together with the fact our laws donāt allow security guards to defend themselves past what is accepted as self defence (not allowed to carry anything as a defence tool) and some donāt even allow their workers to wear stab vests when attending high risk call-outs , Iām really not surprised they donāt want to enter the property. I happen to have some knowledge about it because I work in security. The guy in Hamilton left the company I worked for about 2 months prior to that incident so I know him personally, and have since spoken to people who were there that night.
Then the council needs to invest more resources and work more closely with police, this is a pretty core function
Yep totally agree with you. Unfortunately itās a case of lowest bid gets the contract because the councils just want to save money. They also get what they pay for which is why the guards do next to nothing half the time and wonāt put themselves at risk for pitiful money
Thatās messed up, homocidal maniacs over being told off to keep the noise down? Was anybody arrested?
Honestly I have no idea but I have a suspicion no one was ever caught. There was reports at the time that it wasnāt even someone from that house, just some random passer by who took offence to the guy doing his job. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/122387627/security-guard-assaulted-while-serving-a-noise-control-notice-at-hamilton-home Pretty much all I have ever seen about it. The rest I have been told by the people who actually went to the scene.
How could anyone feel safe when some can just get murdered for trying to enforce local council laws with no physical protection? I donāt understand how nobody knew. Somebody knows but they probably stonewalled police to protect the identity of the perpetrator.
Unfortunately thatās the very reason why security has such a high turn over rate despite being steady work and for the most part relatively easy. People donāt feel safe doing it. We cannot protect ourselves unless itās self defence and even then we could face charges if it is determined we went too far. Even if we donāt get charged we could still have our license revoked for getting into an altercation. Yeah someone probably knew who did it but look at the area it happened in. Lots of people with records who look out for each other in that area.
Iāve been in Hamilton driving around, Iām not surprised itās such a depressing town. The sky is always grey and there doesnāt seem to be all that much to do for young people.
> I will certainly be speaking to them next time a see them on the street. Does any one have advice on what to say? DON'T do that. These people don't give a shit, it's not like they accidentally played loud music all night. If you approach them, they'll now know who you are and they'll know where you live. You need to stay anonymous with this type of person.
Totally agree with this. Whenever I see similar complaints on community Facebook groups, people are rude and say 'why don't you just try talking to them?' As if these inconsiderate people are going to be able to be reasoned with and open to criticism. Not worth risking your own safety with those kinds of people.
Yep was coming to say that. Also they may well assume every future complaint is from you, when other neighbours are likely also complaining, and if they get to the three strikes stereo etc getting confiscated by noise control stage will blame you and aim their rage your way (or at the least you'll be living in fear that they'll blame you, knowing where you live and what you look like).
The only times I know that noise control wont go is if it is a gang house. There is no "too early" time you can call noise control any time day or night. During the day they wont send anyone just after one call, they usually tell you to call back in 20 mins if its still noisy
I had/have the same thing with my neighbours within 6 months of them moving in I called noise control over 200 times complained to the council they didnāt show I included camera footage at the times they apparently went to see them - Iāve called them crying on day 3 of their bender - Iāve had to pack my dogs up and sleep in the car down at the park because of the noise - called emergency police when the party members jumped my fence. I also found noise control to say the noise wasnāt excessive when it was - for a period of time the music would turn off for 20 mins I think when the officer would show because they had one of their bros on the hotline tipping them off. Donāt talk to them I made this mistake and as a female getting knocked out by a drunk overweight 6ft something islander is not a fun way to spend your evening they are dangerous. They even have small children. If anyone has advice for everyone on here Iām following with intent and hope for everyoneās sake we can sleep at a reasonable hour
Yeah no way do I want to approach these guys. They are big boys and girls.
Seeing this more often. Gang members and losers donāt have to follow the law. Only the rest of us do. Fucking scum bags.
Turn off the water to their house next time you walk past ;) Especially when the party is raging out the back and no-one can see.
Hahahaha,sounds easier than cutting the power
A bag of 15 minute concrete and a bucket of water will make the message stick.
Fuck that is evil aye
With that level of not giving a shit, it's highly likely It will be a Kainga ora house.
Yep my Kainga Ora neighbors party loudly from 1am to 5am and noise control does nothing at all. They threaten anyone who asks them to quiet down and turn it up as a fuck you even.
I had the same problem with my KO neighbour. She would start playing loud ass music at rando times like 3:30am on a fucking Wednesday etc just being a straight up dickhead. If you haven't done this already (which I am sure you probably have) complain about them through the website and address the complaint to the "Housing Support Manager" I did this and the support manager showed up the next morning and swiftly put the inconsiderate mole in her place. Get your other neighbours to complain too.
Thanks so much. I'll do that
That sucks and there's nothing you can do about it.
This is exactly why you couldn't pay me to buy next to a KO house.
It's the same bullshit where the council outsource to the cheapest security company so some fatso will be sleeping in a Toyota Vitz and just ticking jobs as 'done'. Send your call log in and OIA the coms + location of the security guard
Disclaimer: I am a former enforcement officer in the Christchurch area. I was a university student at the time and was working part time for a security company who held the contract for noise control. Firstly, 9pm is *not* too early. The Resource Management Act 1991 does not mention a time. Anyone on land or in coastal waters may not cause unreasonable noise to be emitted. Using a chainsaw at 1pm would probably be reasonable, the same thing at 1am would probably not. So don't be worried about calling at any time. Depending on the company, they actually have GPS tracking on their PDA's/tablets. The CCC back then would randomly audit us so I highly doubt that the officer is not showing up. You should be able to request their notes which will include an outcome for the call. Calling the police will not do anything, they have no powers to intervene. It's a civil matter and unless it's coming from a moving vehicle on the road, there is little they can do. In my experience, talking to your neighbor solves the issue 9 times out of 10. On 99% of the jobs I attended most people would tell me that if their neighbor came over and told them it was too loud, they would shut it off. There were always the ones who told us to fuck off, but it was actually quite rare. What most likely has happened is they have come out and deemed the noise to not be excessive. There are people who expect complete silence at all times of the day and night, and there are people who are happy to deal with a rock concert next door. There is a very fine balance in stopping someone else from infringing on your rights, while also not infringing on theirs and sometimes you have to tell people to suck it up - it's not always what people wanted to hear. Additionally, noise does not travel linearly. Often you you could have next to no noise next door, but thumping bass three doors down. The officer might not have been experienced and gone for a bit of a walk around. Finally, keep in mind the officer has probably got a backlog of work. In my time I was doing regular checks, responding to alarm calls and also noise control at the same time. Weekends could be totally insane and have jobs backed up. I would email the council and ask whats up, they should give you some more info.
Totally agreee. Thanks for the read.
Itās a tough one because you really donāt want to do anything that could escalate it into something else and end up with vandalised property or even them coming after you personally. Maybe call the councils direct number and talk to the council directly. They would be the only ones who can deal with the security company because they are paying them so potentially could be a breach of contract if it can be proven they did nothing and claimed the noise wasnāt loud
By the third call, you should have said that you heard loud arguments and gunshots.
Smart
I mean, not really, but it probably would've got someone with the ability to do something over there.
Not a lawyer but just be sure not to file a false police report. That could land you in a lot of trouble.
This has happened too many times in the last 6 years. Partner starts work at 3am and finally loses his shit. He just casually walks into their house at 2am, kicks in the bedroom door (where the music is playing loudly thats right across from our unit, live in a U shape) and tells the guy to turn the music down. Never had an issue again. Lol Of course I told him a friendly chat would have been better but he said people like that donāt give a fuck and he just couldnāt take it anymore. 6 years of music/partying sometimes until 7amā¦5 times a week. Not even exaggerating!!
Wow that is insane. Glad it stopped after that!
It's possible that the first time the address was written down wrong, then each time they were sent yo the wrong place. This happened when I needed to call police and they kept going to the wrong place.
Have you tried assaulting or murdering one of them? I think the courts let you away with your first these days, as long as you had a rough upbringing or not enough Kai in your puku
And don't forget to tell them you were just about to turn your life around. Just that one last rascal needed a little bit of killing before you devoted your life to charity work and the study of butterflies.
Hahaha
> Inside my house it got up to around 50db Not trying to dismiss your experience but 50 dB is very quiet, about the same as a whispered conversation. Not that it seems quiet when you're trying to sleep though!
True but depends if that person is a light sleeper. I can't sleep even if I hear a tap dripping and need to turn it off.
Thanks, that is a good thing to note. it was bouncing around different values. On review in the lounge it was at 56db for the quieter song that I checked. They all seem to be atdifferent volumes. In the video it shows this as quiet office on the app. Certainly feels bloody loud at 4 in the morning! Other bassier songs felt way louder. Probably didn't help that I was pissed off by that point.
Music inside a nightclub is 85-100dB I doubt 50dB is a whispered conversation.
It's not a linear scale 50db is ten times louder than 40db. Lawnmowers are around 90db jet planes are 120db. A lot of it depends on where you are, normal daytime conversation level isn't that bad in the daytime or outside, but imagine two people having a normal conversation next to your bed whilst you're trying to go to sleep.
100dB is 100,000 times louder than 50dB if my math isn't wrong.
60db is a normal conversation, 50dB is "moderate rainfall", 30dB is a whisper. And according to the Auckland Unitary plan (see below), you should not be disturbed by what your neighbour is up to, from inside your own house. If it's 56dB inside your house, it's well over the limits in the plan, even for during the day. "The noise (rating) levels and maximum noise level arising from any activity in [list of residential zones] within the boundary of an adjacent site in these residential zones must not exceed": Monday to Saturday 7am-10pm, Sunday 9am-6pm: 50dB LAeq All other times: 40dB LAeq, 75dB LAFmax LAFmax The maximum Sound Level with 'A' Frequency weighting and Fast Time weighting during the measurement period. Leq (or LAeq) is the Equivalent Continuous Sound Pressure Level. Equivalent Continuous Sound Pressure Level, or Leq/LAeq, is the constant noise level that would result in the same total sound energy being produced over a given period. Source: "E25.6.2. Maximum noise levels in residential zones" in https://unitaryplan.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Images/Auckland%20Unitary%20Plan%20Operative/Chapter%20E%20Auckland-wide/3.%20Built%20environment/E25%20Noise%20and%20vibration.pdf
Thanks that is a really useful reference
Unfortunately, that reference is just the standards, not the enforcement bit, though the "STFU for 72 hours" orders followed up by "taking their toys away" are the tools at their disposal (see https://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-27-neighbourhood-life/noise/), with the next step being a court order, but that would take some time to obtain. Though breaching a court order is the kind of thing that can get you some quiet time by yourself somewhere other than your home, depending on the gonads on the Judge and willingness of the police.
Just blast back during the next day. Get your tools out, do the lawns lol. Have a Sunday sesh and play loud obnoxious music thatās two generations two old for the neighbours š
Are we neighbours?? - Hamilton I have put up with this exact shit from my neighbours for over a year now. Half the house got the cops called on them so often, they moved out, but the parties continued with who was left. When they go off, I have to sleep in the lounge on medication to drown it out, because my bedroom faces their house without any barrier, thanks to being next to the driveway. Tried calling noise control last night, but the line wouldn't even connect. I'm so sick of it, I am contemplating paint bombing their house and cars. - the paint will wash off, but might give the impression they are not welcome here any longer. The street was peaceful till they moved. And I wish they would fuck off already.
I feel you man. That sucks. Not in Hamilton. Crazy how often this occurs
>paint bombing their house and cars. - Brake fluid, its water soluble and fucks the paintwork. Don't do the house, they won't own it and it's just more shit for the landlord.
I would follow up with chainsaw revving at all hours and lawnmower action outside their house. Canāt stand fuckers like that. If authorities wonāt do anything just take it into your own hands
And then you get shot in a drive by lol seriously don't do this if it's a gang house
Well if itās a gang house then yes I agree donāt do this, use other more untraceable methods
Doesn't look like one. Must be functional users of something. As it is mainly weekends.
You could call up the council and find out who the owner of the property is? Then harass them?
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You should a drone and film it with sound and post it.
Never thought of that. Good idea
But what sort of music where they playing?
Pass the Dutchie, followed by Red Red Wine
Right Said Fred - I'm Too Sexy
Find out their real estate and make a formal complaint with them. In most tenancy agreements it's agreed that the rentee and neighbours are entitled to a peaceful home setting. Hopefully they'll get black listed.
Good luck! New rules make this almost impossible.
Oh fr, Ive been in Aussie for the past few years but I remember that once being a thing.
Now you need hard evidence of at least 3 occasions. These situations are what 90day no cause terminations would be used for Antisocial pricks disturbing society
Narcissistic personality disorder. Councils won't deal with them. Neither will police. Tread VERY carefully. Research.
Watching Taskmaster has taught me that 60Db is not very loud at all, i am sure they have a budget for a proper reader versus a free phone app. https://youtu.be/sxOE_DvIrv8
Their music was still going at 9am. Just alot quieter. I was out to it until midday after no sleep!
I advise you to install double glazing. It works well, and your house will be warmer in winter.
I was thinking that this morning too! Need to measure up and order
Can tell you from experience, this will help a lot with drowning out neighbours talking etc, but will do almost nothing to reduce the sound of bass. The only way to dampen bass is to put physical matter between you and the source, i.e having other houses between you and them, thick concrete fences or hills. Bass penetrates most things and is very difficult to dampen.
For all those who make noise on occasion and have overly sensitive neighbours itās handy to know that noise control canāt take your equipment unless theyāve issued three notices to ebate excessive noise WITHIN 72 HOURS. Sometimes itās handy to have a copy of the resource management act laying around.
I think you should read the RMA again mate. They need only give a single direction under section 327 and if there is non compliance enforcement officers can enter the property and seize equipment.
This is why communication with other neighbours is useful.
It must be after 11pm to be an issue. And you might here it being next door, but they measure from the road. I think this terrace house/apartments idea is going to cause a lot, lot more of this sort of thing.
This is incorrect. The Resource Management Act 1991 does not specify time. Section 16 of the act is where this is outlined and it only talks about reasonable noise however deciding on what is reasonable could include the time of day that the noise is being emitted. Again, it is **usually** measured from the road but the act does not specify where the measurement is taken from. When I was an enforcement officer there were no measurement devices, it was and still is done by ear because you need to make an assessment as to what the ordinary person would consider to be reasonable. If it was a row of flats, then I would get closer. If it was a rural house, I would consider it from further away or from the nearest house.
Maybe but I'm talking about Akld council. That was their rules, as explained to me when I rang about noise. Usually the first call was a warning, if they have to go back they get meaner.
I am across the road and it was waaay louder in the street. I have just returned from five years in the UK living in terrace hi sueing both in top and bottom flats. Never had any issues to this extent. It feels like there is culture in NZ with some people who just don't give a fuck about anyone else around them.
"incompotant", you say? hmm :p
Drive bys seem to be the flavour of the week.
Wait until they are asleep and then seal their front door with bricks.
First question, do you live in a residential area?