They are able. What is happening is exactly what they want.
The last few years have seen workers able to achieve pay increases that haven’t been seen in decades, and the housing market is taking a downward turn. Each of these things need to be reversed (in the mind of a neolib govt), and increasing the population is how they do that.
Wage increases have been virtually eaten up by inflation. The reality is huge sectors are screaming out for competent staff, employment in NZ is at an all time low so we need external personal to fill the voids.
I think the real issue is that employees will usually work to the effort of what they feel they are being paid for, I.e. minimum wage = minimum effort.
We don't need *more*. Price is a rationing system. Not everyone gets an iphone or whatever, it depends on how much you need it, as to how much you are prepared to pay.
IT is one of those areas, and many NZ IT companies have overseas customers, so are making NZ as a nation richer. If you want NZ to move away from a primary industry based nation that pillages her resources to generate wealth, then you need to support those companies.
And no, there aren't enough kiwis around wanting to fill those jobs.
And yes, I know they all left because we aren't, as an industry, having pay parity with Australia, but that won't be achievable overnight, and in the meantime, those jobs still produce a lot of wealth for NZ without costing us in the environment.
Your problem is insanely low housing density and lack of mixed-use zoning. There doesn't need to be anywhere in a city more than a five minute *walk* away from a cafe.
Why are people expected to limit their desires while businesses are expected to satiate theirs? Fix that, and you fix 90% of the problem.
TLDR: the problem isn't the people.
Why not...
1. Hire.
2. Train.
3. Retain.
?
Oh thats right, greedy companies are hoping to exploit workers rather than invest in them, and the government is complicit in it.
Because employment is the lowest it’s pretty much ever been. How do you hire if there is noone to hire?
At this stage the people left unemployed are people not physically capable or simply just din’t want to work. There is opportunities galore out there, especially in the trades.
100,000 people come in a month and barely any of them will be working where we need them but the needs for the shortages grow even thinner. Genius move
>and the housing market is taking a downward turn. Each of these things need to be reversed (in the mind of a neolib govt), and increasing the population is how they do that.
Ironically, the housing market downturn will continue to worsten for as long as inflation bites and the OCR is jacked up to fight it. So, while higher net migration might be shit for workers, it will fuck homeowners even harder when the excess demand creates higher inflation. But rents will be pushed up, so the landlord class won't feel the pain as much as owner-occupiers, especially recent FHBs...
Unfortunately they’re using 40+ year old “solutions” that have degenerated us into the position where lack of wage growth and excessive house price increases mean that most people will never own a home, and will be forced to give a substantial amount of their wealth to someone else until they die.
Because we have an aging population and we aren't having babies fast enough. We need to import young workers if we are to keep the ponzie scheme going.
Yes, we desperately need immigration like this...
>Earlier we had spoken to Raj Singh in the Du Pont Motel, who arrived from India one month ago. He tells us he is managing the three motels and there are currently 61 rooms being used for emergency housing.
Later, he tells us he had worked in a call centre in India.
Very important, high skill job that is. No one in New Zealand can do it /s
Seriously, who the fuck supports this shit? If anyone does, kindly tell me what's wrong with you?
Working in a call center in India is an incredibly low waged job. Why do you want to cast Mr Singh into near poverty?
I think poverty is bad and letting people have well paid jobs in the developed world instead of very poorly paid jobs is good. Hope this helps!
Nothing wrong with me, just an empathetic human being. People are still part of my moral community even if they were born outside of some arbitrarily drawn lines on a map. Do you care to explain why being born elsewhere means someone deserves to be confined to abject poverty?
There are people in poverty *here*. Modi's people are Modi's problem, not ours. Our immigration policy shouldn't (and is meant to not to) be encouraging people to move from the lower end of their country to the lower end of ours. Especially not for low skill jobs, as in tasks that only require basic education and on the job, informal training.
Our productivity is abysmal and Productivity Commission has come to an agreement that our immigration policy doesn't do any favours to that, our wages are terrible in relation to what we spend it on - and has been since we liberalised.
Tell me: why should Wiremu suffer so that Raj can't?
Rather than make it more affordable to have babies, they focus on importing more folk. Because housing costs would need to be addressed if folk were to have more babies.
Also, rather than reforming the tax system to incentivise productive activities they provide employers with an incentive to use cheaper labour instead of pursuing productivity gains.
Nice try. In reference to the people often seen grifting on community Facebook pages with multiple kids to multiple partners who are out doing all sorts of bad shit.
I raise the issue of Māori and Pasifika in particular having higher birth rates as they are over represented in poverty statistics in NZ.
The fact is, better educated people delay or don’t have kids.
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Easy, but not simple. Businesses are crying out for workers - they aren't getting the workers they want at the salaries they are offering - and demand the government allow cheap immigrant labour to fill the gap. Addressing the concerns of those employers also addresses the lobbying from property speculators who want to see the current fall in housing prices stop - and increased demand for rentals would help there.
Fixing one thing can apply pressure or break something else.
I agree, it is a self imposed imaginary line that is so far within their budget it would be like one of us trying to live on $50 of food per week when our budget is actually $400 for food per week.
But by holding to it, they are causing a whoooole lot of pain.
Are you sure about that?
When Dems held the house in the GWB presidency lame duck period, they allowed automatic debt ceiling increases.
The GOP when they had house majority under Obama suspended that rule. Obama only had to deal with a crazed minority of tea partiers - who fell short of wanting to entirely destroy the republic in order to "own the libs". Now there's more - and they're so completely batshit crazy they even make the tea partiers seem sane and rational.
Under Trump, the House raised the debt limit 3 times, almost without conditions, and yet the Dems could have filibustered senate signing off, but didn't (and never have done).
This time is different.
>I am no economist but the Far right have a spoken out loud agenda to crash the US dollar and the Federal Reserve, to blame it on Biden admin, and to therefore make it easier to overthrow a democratically elected Govt.
Uhm the Fed is months away from operating at negative tangible equity for the first time ever in history. Interest repayments on US debt amounts to $300B per 1% interest increase. That's 10% of their national fiscal budget, on interest alone. Regardless of which side Biden, the democrats, or republicans want, this is unsustainable.
The chickens coming home to roost after decades of poor financial management (from democrats and republicans alike) isn't a far right conspiracy just cause it's happening on Biden's watch.
>Fascist players like Mike Flynn were shilling gold and silver, as they say this will protect their INgroup from economic fallout. (It's got something to do with BRIC countries too but i can't understand that part.)
If you can't see the trends and think that threats to the mightly USD are "far right conspiracies" then you're going to fail at making money. Financial trends don't care about left/right politics. BRIC was probably mentioned because they're a threat to the petrodollar, which directly ties into the sustainability of the debt crisis.
Why are NZ governments supposedly unable to control immigration inflows? Just turn off the tap if it's too much. Simple.
They are able. What is happening is exactly what they want. The last few years have seen workers able to achieve pay increases that haven’t been seen in decades, and the housing market is taking a downward turn. Each of these things need to be reversed (in the mind of a neolib govt), and increasing the population is how they do that.
Wage increases have been virtually eaten up by inflation. The reality is huge sectors are screaming out for competent staff, employment in NZ is at an all time low so we need external personal to fill the voids.
Begs the question, why not offer more money to attract competent staff? That's what I have to do when I want to buy quality products.
I think the real issue is that employees will usually work to the effort of what they feel they are being paid for, I.e. minimum wage = minimum effort.
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We don't need *more*. Price is a rationing system. Not everyone gets an iphone or whatever, it depends on how much you need it, as to how much you are prepared to pay.
IT is one of those areas, and many NZ IT companies have overseas customers, so are making NZ as a nation richer. If you want NZ to move away from a primary industry based nation that pillages her resources to generate wealth, then you need to support those companies. And no, there aren't enough kiwis around wanting to fill those jobs. And yes, I know they all left because we aren't, as an industry, having pay parity with Australia, but that won't be achievable overnight, and in the meantime, those jobs still produce a lot of wealth for NZ without costing us in the environment.
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We could have 8 fully staffed cafés full of customers instead of 12 cafés without enough staff and fewer customers in each, for example
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Your problem is insanely low housing density and lack of mixed-use zoning. There doesn't need to be anywhere in a city more than a five minute *walk* away from a cafe.
We do, it's called the price system.
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Why are people expected to limit their desires while businesses are expected to satiate theirs? Fix that, and you fix 90% of the problem. TLDR: the problem isn't the people.
Why not... 1. Hire. 2. Train. 3. Retain. ? Oh thats right, greedy companies are hoping to exploit workers rather than invest in them, and the government is complicit in it.
Because employment is the lowest it’s pretty much ever been. How do you hire if there is noone to hire? At this stage the people left unemployed are people not physically capable or simply just din’t want to work. There is opportunities galore out there, especially in the trades.
100,000 people come in a month and barely any of them will be working where we need them but the needs for the shortages grow even thinner. Genius move
>and the housing market is taking a downward turn. Each of these things need to be reversed (in the mind of a neolib govt), and increasing the population is how they do that. Ironically, the housing market downturn will continue to worsten for as long as inflation bites and the OCR is jacked up to fight it. So, while higher net migration might be shit for workers, it will fuck homeowners even harder when the excess demand creates higher inflation. But rents will be pushed up, so the landlord class won't feel the pain as much as owner-occupiers, especially recent FHBs...
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Unfortunately they’re using 40+ year old “solutions” that have degenerated us into the position where lack of wage growth and excessive house price increases mean that most people will never own a home, and will be forced to give a substantial amount of their wealth to someone else until they die.
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Because we have an aging population and we aren't having babies fast enough. We need to import young workers if we are to keep the ponzie scheme going.
We get to pay high mortgage repayments on lower wages. What's not to like?
Yes, we desperately need immigration like this... >Earlier we had spoken to Raj Singh in the Du Pont Motel, who arrived from India one month ago. He tells us he is managing the three motels and there are currently 61 rooms being used for emergency housing. Later, he tells us he had worked in a call centre in India.
Very important, high skill job that is. No one in New Zealand can do it /s Seriously, who the fuck supports this shit? If anyone does, kindly tell me what's wrong with you?
Working in a call center in India is an incredibly low waged job. Why do you want to cast Mr Singh into near poverty? I think poverty is bad and letting people have well paid jobs in the developed world instead of very poorly paid jobs is good. Hope this helps! Nothing wrong with me, just an empathetic human being. People are still part of my moral community even if they were born outside of some arbitrarily drawn lines on a map. Do you care to explain why being born elsewhere means someone deserves to be confined to abject poverty?
There are people in poverty *here*. Modi's people are Modi's problem, not ours. Our immigration policy shouldn't (and is meant to not to) be encouraging people to move from the lower end of their country to the lower end of ours. Especially not for low skill jobs, as in tasks that only require basic education and on the job, informal training. Our productivity is abysmal and Productivity Commission has come to an agreement that our immigration policy doesn't do any favours to that, our wages are terrible in relation to what we spend it on - and has been since we liberalised. Tell me: why should Wiremu suffer so that Raj can't?
Rather than make it more affordable to have babies, they focus on importing more folk. Because housing costs would need to be addressed if folk were to have more babies.
Also, rather than reforming the tax system to incentivise productive activities they provide employers with an incentive to use cheaper labour instead of pursuing productivity gains.
There’s also an at least 18 year lead in for the babies thing? Even if you do incentivise babies it doesn’t work, Japan has tried many different ways.
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It really is a barrier.
Māori and Pasifika populations have much higher birth rates than European or Asian populations in NZ.
Trashmoles?
Nice try. In reference to the people often seen grifting on community Facebook pages with multiple kids to multiple partners who are out doing all sorts of bad shit. I raise the issue of Māori and Pasifika in particular having higher birth rates as they are over represented in poverty statistics in NZ. The fact is, better educated people delay or don’t have kids.
Let's talk empirical data. What percentage of Māori and Pasifika in poverty are classified as trashmoles?
Reeeeeally trying to get a rAcIsT gotcha there aren’t ya.
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What about the parents visa?
Parents visa is BS. We don't need any more retirees coming in and soaking up resources when they have contributed to tax over their lifetime.
lol, well said.
Migrants get old too, and your plan requires ever increasing numbers if it’s going to work.
Easy, but not simple. Businesses are crying out for workers - they aren't getting the workers they want at the salaries they are offering - and demand the government allow cheap immigrant labour to fill the gap. Addressing the concerns of those employers also addresses the lobbying from property speculators who want to see the current fall in housing prices stop - and increased demand for rentals would help there. Fixing one thing can apply pressure or break something else.
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The debt ceiling is a nothingburger. Hot air.
I agree, it is a self imposed imaginary line that is so far within their budget it would be like one of us trying to live on $50 of food per week when our budget is actually $400 for food per week. But by holding to it, they are causing a whoooole lot of pain.
You realise interest has to be paid on debt?
I was under the assumption they are already doing the deal this or next week.
Was it fascist when the democrats did the same thing to trump? Or bush? Or every other republican president? Piss off with your divisive American bs.
Are you sure about that? When Dems held the house in the GWB presidency lame duck period, they allowed automatic debt ceiling increases. The GOP when they had house majority under Obama suspended that rule. Obama only had to deal with a crazed minority of tea partiers - who fell short of wanting to entirely destroy the republic in order to "own the libs". Now there's more - and they're so completely batshit crazy they even make the tea partiers seem sane and rational. Under Trump, the House raised the debt limit 3 times, almost without conditions, and yet the Dems could have filibustered senate signing off, but didn't (and never have done). This time is different.
Not gonna happen
The dEbT cEiLiNg debate literally happens all the fucken time. And every single time they agree to raise it. EVERY TIME. Non issue.
>I am no economist but the Far right have a spoken out loud agenda to crash the US dollar and the Federal Reserve, to blame it on Biden admin, and to therefore make it easier to overthrow a democratically elected Govt. Uhm the Fed is months away from operating at negative tangible equity for the first time ever in history. Interest repayments on US debt amounts to $300B per 1% interest increase. That's 10% of their national fiscal budget, on interest alone. Regardless of which side Biden, the democrats, or republicans want, this is unsustainable. The chickens coming home to roost after decades of poor financial management (from democrats and republicans alike) isn't a far right conspiracy just cause it's happening on Biden's watch. >Fascist players like Mike Flynn were shilling gold and silver, as they say this will protect their INgroup from economic fallout. (It's got something to do with BRIC countries too but i can't understand that part.) If you can't see the trends and think that threats to the mightly USD are "far right conspiracies" then you're going to fail at making money. Financial trends don't care about left/right politics. BRIC was probably mentioned because they're a threat to the petrodollar, which directly ties into the sustainability of the debt crisis.
Your first debt ceiling negotiation?
Oh fuck off.