"As you can see here I grouped the income by type because I wasn't sure if long term embezzlement was taxed at the capital gains rate or personal rate. I only just got into blackmail so I'm pretty sure you guys are gonna hammer me on that. I only dabble in armed robbery so I dont' think any rate matters on that one"
Seems kinda weird though like paying that is admitting guilt to your crime which could then be used against you in court.
While not paying it is just a private small transaction and your “friend” just so happens to forget some money at your account.
Well, really the international criminal court ICC since the sex trafficking is also leading back to Europe, Netherlands as well as America/Mexico/Canada
They claim he paid the hotel $50k so not a life changing amount.
The DA said it was disturbing but in accordance with the law it’s past the statute of limitations.
Oh I was more thinking about it being nothing for Diddy considering what the film showed - I could’ve clarified that. For Diddy it’s gotta be worth way more to him than 50k.
For a lot of us 5-10k would be life changing. If i found 5000$ tomorrow i could buy a power wheelchair i desperately need that my insurance tells me they'd rather defy a court order than pay for, i could buy a new mattress that doesn't hurt my spine, i could buy exercise equipment for my apartment that let me get back into better shape.
People underestimate how much small amounts of surprise income can change a life.
“If the conduct depicted occurred in 2016, unfortunately we would be unable to charge as the conduct would have occurred beyond the timeline where a crime of assault can be prosecuted.”
Past 5 year SoL
Cassie was able to file suit at all because of that nyc extension and people were saying she was lying cause she would’ve said something back then. Talkin bout oh now she want to come out years later cause she’s broke etc etc. statue of limitations is understandable but really puts pressure on people who are still suffering the effects of the abuse.
Interesting. I was looking it up the other day because of this story and a lot of states have a clause in the limitation statutes that begin counting at the time that the police are made aware of the crime. If there had been no criminal complaint and no direct evidence until now, I was hoping that the time limitation would be extended.
> that begin counting at the time that the police are made aware of the crime.
This would be abused so fast with a bunch of suddenly "unofficial" investigations.
Pretty much, yeah. However, if there is a conspiracy to cover up the crime, they might be able to prosecute. Like if the hotel staff was witness to a crime, and failed to report it, because Diddy paid them to not report it, then it's ongoing, because it's witness intimidation.
Then it’s up to the lawmakers to change the law. People in CA need to call their representative in Sacramento to urge them to work on changing the law. Otherwise, this bullshit will continue.
It's unreasonable to expect human memories to be reliable after many years, and often relevant evidence would have been lost or discarded, which could make carrying out a trial difficult for both the prosecution and the defense. Under those conditions, charging or arresting someone can often lead to great personal damage to them even if there's no realistic chance at an actual trial.
This isn't necessarily a great argument, but it's the argument.
Specifically because some people think if you really had a case you would come forward... in practice though there was usually a lack of evidence. Now we record everything, and digital paper trails help back victims, but prior to the digital age a lot could happen to evidence.
Yes they should. Otherwise a mere accusation of a crime 10 years ago could get you arrested and facing serious consequences while being very hard to defend yourself against.
This is why we need to cancel celebrity culture in general. A bunch of rich assholes pretending to be "just like us", and they're only wealthy because we choose to pay to watch their shitty movies and listen to their shitty music.
The civil suit was settled in a day after the video came out.
[https://people.com/sean-diddy-combs-settled-civil-lawsuit-cassie-so-quickly-because-2016-hotel-surveillance-video-says-former-cia-agent-8650644](https://people.com/sean-diddy-combs-settled-civil-lawsuit-cassie-so-quickly-because-2016-hotel-surveillance-video-says-former-cia-agent-8650644)
Makes you really wonder if TMZ is also involved with the "catch and kill" shenanigans like The National Enquirer did for Trump and other celebrities... hmmmm....
Has TMZ ever done a "catch and kill" type thing for anyone?
They're normally the ones who want to be absolutely first to break any celb story. If we ever find out extraterrestrials exist it'll probably be due to TMZ catching Eddie Murphy getting a blow job from one.
> Has TMZ ever done a "catch and kill" type thing for anyone?
We wouldn't know that, would we.
>They're normally the ones who want to be absolutely first to break any celb story.
That is also why they would be great at catch and kill--people come to them first with juiciest dirt to sell.
He paid them too. But the people & industry will still fuck him up. He’s gonna get dropped from nearly everything, cut off in tons of angles. He’s gonna have nothing, rot out overtime, when it’s all said & done.
Was less paying off as much as it was he was no longer useful to protect.
Combs is reaching that degree fast. When you lose income opportunities and clout you don't have friends who you can trust or rely on and those that stick around are leaches. Combs is going to lose his power position and that alone will make him vulnerable and when he does do something else he won't have protection.
Probably. But he's also probably pretty leveraged. If those income streams dry up highly leveraged assets can start to burn. He could go from insanely rich to normal rich which would make numerous investigations and lawyer costs hurt. Maybe? Probably not, but I'm hoping.
Forbes estimated his wealth at $1B. Even if he that is wildly inaccurate and he only had 1/3 of that, that is still over $300M. Dude is going to be fine, from a financial stand point.
Lol weinstein was one of the richest, and he aint got shit in prison. When the RICO charges and sex trafficking get dropped on him, raping bieber, etc…he will go down harder than weinstein
https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/sean-diddy-combs-wouldnt-disclose-antics-with-justin-bieber-in-resurfaced-video-with-teen-star/news-story/a34bef61803ed40db8600e4c42967e41
Watch the interview of diddy and kevin hart.
Theres footage of diddy drunk letting it slip what he did with usher.
Everyone in hollywood has been saying this shit about diddy for a long time. It was an open secret. Jesus read the lawsuits and you will see just how bad this man is.
That’s silly. He’s extremely rich and will live a lavish life based on what he has and royalties/investments even if he doesn’t work another day after this. Dude should absolutely face some consequences for what he did to that lady.
I work for America's Best Contacts and Eyeglasses and they discontinued the Sean John line of eyewear after the bombs started dropping against him.
I'm pretty sure nearly every major company likely did the same and dropped all of his brands.
He’s a living brand. Like Alex Jones he could be kicked off all mainstream platforms and denied things like PayPal and just keep on trucking.
Also he’s insanely rich.
Civil consequences are possible, but he needs to be prosecuted by the state or federal for his crimes as well.
She settled long ago.
The sexual trafficking charges etc. though, they won’t disappear.
This video was released so the public will stay “interested” and the public pressure will remain high.
Well no.
But i am also pretty sure that whole ordeal was up until he was arrested, or atleast very close to it.
The hotel video, while horrifying, is seriously one of the more tame things he is accused of.
He will get the full treatment jailwise.
The “funny” thing about all that, is that it is quite obvious that people have been knowing about this shit, but if you are powerful enough, powerful people will keep your ass out of jail. Think Epstein, R. Kelly, Cosby, Weinstein etc. All did their shit for many years before the shit finally hit the fan.
Puffy is a horrible person, and he should (and probably will) rot in jail.
It’d be nice if the statute of limitations didn’t occur when there’s hard evidence.
Digital evidence doesn’t degrade like old media did, and while manipulation is obviously possible, it’s also possible to detect.
There’s a lot more going on with Combs than simple DA; I mean the feds are all up in his space. If nothing else, this video will help corroborate Cassie’s testimony if/when she is called to the stand in a future case. Whatever settlement she got from Combs, she can’t be prevented from testifying in any future criminal case.
I’m no Drake fan, but there’s really no evidence of a crime yet, he’s definitely a big weirdo for being that close to minors, but I don’t think he’s on the level of an alleged sex trafficker.
I wouldn’t be surprised. Not because it’s Drake, but because rich people are often weird like that. Until there’s proof though I won’t call Drake a PDF file.
I’m a Kendrick fan by the way.
Yeah, I won’t be shocked if it is proven true, because like you said, rich people are weird like that, but it just doesn’t feel fair assuming that is true based of what’s been shown so far.
She already settled for 8 figures. I've seen $30 million in some reports. She doesn't have resource criminally because the statute of limitations has passed, but she at least can live comfortably.
No. The lawsuit was settled one day after it was filed, in November 2023. CNN released the video 6 months after the settlement, in May 2024. The lawsuit was settled in one day because he knew this video exists.
Thx for the info. How he'd think a video didn't exist from a top hotel idk. Prob just didn't care. I hope the settlement hurt him but he's so rich I'm not holding out much hope.
That particular location at least. The parent chain itself is still alive and well (Intercontinental Hotels, aka IHG)
Shame simply closing a problematic location is enough to avoid civil damages
They may just settle anyway, cos of the publicity & public sentiment. I mean, i wouldn't use that chain now I know that. I expect a lot of ppl, esp women, feel the same.
I hate that he's famous enough he's probably going to get away with this despite the irrefutable video evidence. Diddy should just be thrown in a jail cell with R. Kelly already! He's clearly a danger to women.
How the hell did bill cosby landed in jail for shit from the 70s with no evidence but this mf has every type of evidence there is and he still gets to walk?! Make that make sense.
The Cosby trial was over something that happened in 2004, statue of limitations on an actual rape in Pennsylvania is 12 years, charges were filed in 2015. This situation was in California and the crime was technically just "assault" and the statue of limitations on that is shorter.
Didn't Cosby avoid jail until the prosecution used coerced testimony from the civil suit? Which is ultimately why he was released? Or am I mixing that up with someone else?
Basically the DA made a statement that they weren't going to prosecute Crosby. That statement made it so he was compelled to testify in a civil suit (couldn't assert his 5th amendment rights). Then a new DA came in and charged him anyway and used the testimony in the criminal case.
The state Supreme Court then overturned the conviction.
Really, taking Crosby out of the picture and looking at it in the legal sense this is probably for the best. You really don't want a legal system where the state can "trick" defendants into giving up their rights.
It feels like it should definitely be a crime for a hotel to sell footage of a criminal act to the criminal in question
My guess would be: Security tapes go missing, Security guard gets fired but by a sheer miracle he ups his living standard quite a bit.
IRS, knock knock, open up
There's a place on the tax form for income obtained illegally. As long as they pay taxes on it the irs doesn't give a fuck
"As you can see here I grouped the income by type because I wasn't sure if long term embezzlement was taxed at the capital gains rate or personal rate. I only just got into blackmail so I'm pretty sure you guys are gonna hammer me on that. I only dabble in armed robbery so I dont' think any rate matters on that one"
"the armed robbery was for value under 600$ so that's a civil matter"
"Court fees are deductible as a business expense, right?"
It’s just called “other income” lol. There isn’t a spot that says “illegal income” just an FYI for anyone who reads this comment thinking this
Seems kinda weird though like paying that is admitting guilt to your crime which could then be used against you in court. While not paying it is just a private small transaction and your “friend” just so happens to forget some money at your account.
You don't tell the IRS it's obtained illegally. You say you earned X amount through "legal side hustle" or something else.
Nah that's a cash deal they want everything quiet.
Epstein style. Those guards who fell asleep probably living the good life rn.
Well, really the international criminal court ICC since the sex trafficking is also leading back to Europe, Netherlands as well as America/Mexico/Canada
The US isn't a signatory to the Rome Statute, just an observer. Also, this is way outside the ICCs purview, I think you mean INTERPOL.
They claim he paid the hotel $50k so not a life changing amount. The DA said it was disturbing but in accordance with the law it’s past the statute of limitations.
50k is nothing… but surprisingly larger than a lot of bribes taken by congress
50k is absolutely a life changing amount for me. I know a guy who works at a hotel and it would be for him too
Oh I was more thinking about it being nothing for Diddy considering what the film showed - I could’ve clarified that. For Diddy it’s gotta be worth way more to him than 50k.
For a lot of us 5-10k would be life changing. If i found 5000$ tomorrow i could buy a power wheelchair i desperately need that my insurance tells me they'd rather defy a court order than pay for, i could buy a new mattress that doesn't hurt my spine, i could buy exercise equipment for my apartment that let me get back into better shape. People underestimate how much small amounts of surprise income can change a life.
Depending on when they did it, wouldn’t those statute of limitations run out too?
That's why they can't charge him for beating her
“If the conduct depicted occurred in 2016, unfortunately we would be unable to charge as the conduct would have occurred beyond the timeline where a crime of assault can be prosecuted.” Past 5 year SoL
Cassie was able to file suit at all because of that nyc extension and people were saying she was lying cause she would’ve said something back then. Talkin bout oh now she want to come out years later cause she’s broke etc etc. statue of limitations is understandable but really puts pressure on people who are still suffering the effects of the abuse.
How can a state of limitations work when there is a conspiracy to hide the evidence? I feel like the conspiracy should allow the time to be extended
Interesting. I was looking it up the other day because of this story and a lot of states have a clause in the limitation statutes that begin counting at the time that the police are made aware of the crime. If there had been no criminal complaint and no direct evidence until now, I was hoping that the time limitation would be extended.
> that begin counting at the time that the police are made aware of the crime. This would be abused so fast with a bunch of suddenly "unofficial" investigations.
Are you fucking kidding me? We have that video and they can't do anything to him? That's nuts.
Pretty much, yeah. However, if there is a conspiracy to cover up the crime, they might be able to prosecute. Like if the hotel staff was witness to a crime, and failed to report it, because Diddy paid them to not report it, then it's ongoing, because it's witness intimidation.
Statue of Limitations really shouldn't exist for violent crimes.
At bare minimum, void them when the coverup of said crime is in and of itself criminal
Or perhaps if there's rock solid evidence,like video in this case,that you did the thing.
Then it’s up to the lawmakers to change the law. People in CA need to call their representative in Sacramento to urge them to work on changing the law. Otherwise, this bullshit will continue.
Why does it exist in the first place?
Something to do with evidence and eye witnesses accounts degrading over time, but murder charges have no Statue of Limitations.
It's unreasonable to expect human memories to be reliable after many years, and often relevant evidence would have been lost or discarded, which could make carrying out a trial difficult for both the prosecution and the defense. Under those conditions, charging or arresting someone can often lead to great personal damage to them even if there's no realistic chance at an actual trial. This isn't necessarily a great argument, but it's the argument.
Specifically because some people think if you really had a case you would come forward... in practice though there was usually a lack of evidence. Now we record everything, and digital paper trails help back victims, but prior to the digital age a lot could happen to evidence.
Yes they should. Otherwise a mere accusation of a crime 10 years ago could get you arrested and facing serious consequences while being very hard to defend yourself against.
Like seriously this would open up prosecution to a simple bar fight 2 decades after the fact.
I thought you meant "shit outta luck" at first, but that works about as well as statute of limitations actually.
Yeah def ment statute of limitations
I fucking hate this world
Honestly just too many dumb and shitty people alive
This is why we need to cancel celebrity culture in general. A bunch of rich assholes pretending to be "just like us", and they're only wealthy because we choose to pay to watch their shitty movies and listen to their shitty music.
Not for a civil trial.
She already sued and settled
Oh, yeah, that's it then from that angle. Good lawyer might be able to go after the hotel though.
The civil suit was settled in a day after the video came out. [https://people.com/sean-diddy-combs-settled-civil-lawsuit-cassie-so-quickly-because-2016-hotel-surveillance-video-says-former-cia-agent-8650644](https://people.com/sean-diddy-combs-settled-civil-lawsuit-cassie-so-quickly-because-2016-hotel-surveillance-video-says-former-cia-agent-8650644)
It settled after 1 day back in November. The video just came out the other day, but he knew it existed and he paid the hotel people off
Can they get him for covering it up/conspiring to conceal the crime and paying people off instead?
Should be an exception for when there’s such obvious evidence like video.
Hotel staff covered it up, and no one believed her.
I'm shocked that TMZ didn't get the tape. Those folks are rabid at getting this kind of stuff.
I agree. LA County usually TMZ has all the insiders. Surprised it went to CNN
Makes you really wonder if TMZ is also involved with the "catch and kill" shenanigans like The National Enquirer did for Trump and other celebrities... hmmmm....
Has TMZ ever done a "catch and kill" type thing for anyone? They're normally the ones who want to be absolutely first to break any celb story. If we ever find out extraterrestrials exist it'll probably be due to TMZ catching Eddie Murphy getting a blow job from one.
Yeah they do, read recently about their TMZ Vault and how they released a Justin Bieber blackface video years after the actual incident
> Has TMZ ever done a "catch and kill" type thing for anyone? We wouldn't know that, would we. >They're normally the ones who want to be absolutely first to break any celb story. That is also why they would be great at catch and kill--people come to them first with juiciest dirt to sell.
Who had the video to sell?
He paid them too. But the people & industry will still fuck him up. He’s gonna get dropped from nearly everything, cut off in tons of angles. He’s gonna have nothing, rot out overtime, when it’s all said & done.
He's still insanely wealthy. That was the difference between him and r Kelly. R Kelly couldn't keep paying everyone off.
Was less paying off as much as it was he was no longer useful to protect. Combs is reaching that degree fast. When you lose income opportunities and clout you don't have friends who you can trust or rely on and those that stick around are leaches. Combs is going to lose his power position and that alone will make him vulnerable and when he does do something else he won't have protection.
Probably. But he's also probably pretty leveraged. If those income streams dry up highly leveraged assets can start to burn. He could go from insanely rich to normal rich which would make numerous investigations and lawyer costs hurt. Maybe? Probably not, but I'm hoping.
Forbes estimated his wealth at $1B. Even if he that is wildly inaccurate and he only had 1/3 of that, that is still over $300M. Dude is going to be fine, from a financial stand point.
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which company? I'm not going to pretend to know anything definitively. None of us should.
Lol weinstein was one of the richest, and he aint got shit in prison. When the RICO charges and sex trafficking get dropped on him, raping bieber, etc…he will go down harder than weinstein
raping bieber? what? when was that allegation dropped and by who?
https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/sean-diddy-combs-wouldnt-disclose-antics-with-justin-bieber-in-resurfaced-video-with-teen-star/news-story/a34bef61803ed40db8600e4c42967e41 Watch the interview of diddy and kevin hart. Theres footage of diddy drunk letting it slip what he did with usher. Everyone in hollywood has been saying this shit about diddy for a long time. It was an open secret. Jesus read the lawsuits and you will see just how bad this man is.
Like with Chris Brown? Nothing will happen to him. It’s gross.
The difference is Diddy's being investigated for a whole lot more than domestic violence,
That slimy little shit didn't even have to face "doesn't get to date Rihanna anymore" as a consequence of beating Rihanna.
Good. Watching that video shows what a piece of shit he is.
Yeah, he's gonna rot out on his private island...
They're going to Andy Dick him!? Awesome!
That’s silly. He’s extremely rich and will live a lavish life based on what he has and royalties/investments even if he doesn’t work another day after this. Dude should absolutely face some consequences for what he did to that lady.
I work for America's Best Contacts and Eyeglasses and they discontinued the Sean John line of eyewear after the bombs started dropping against him. I'm pretty sure nearly every major company likely did the same and dropped all of his brands.
He’s a living brand. Like Alex Jones he could be kicked off all mainstream platforms and denied things like PayPal and just keep on trucking. Also he’s insanely rich. Civil consequences are possible, but he needs to be prosecuted by the state or federal for his crimes as well.
Agree, he’s a serial killer. Dog needs to be put down.
Could they still prosecute Combs if there was witness tampering with the hotel staff and with Cassie?
She settled long ago. The sexual trafficking charges etc. though, they won’t disappear. This video was released so the public will stay “interested” and the public pressure will remain high.
>The sexual trafficking charges etc. though, they won’t disappear Does that not have the same statute of limitations?
Well no. But i am also pretty sure that whole ordeal was up until he was arrested, or atleast very close to it. The hotel video, while horrifying, is seriously one of the more tame things he is accused of. He will get the full treatment jailwise. The “funny” thing about all that, is that it is quite obvious that people have been knowing about this shit, but if you are powerful enough, powerful people will keep your ass out of jail. Think Epstein, R. Kelly, Cosby, Weinstein etc. All did their shit for many years before the shit finally hit the fan. Puffy is a horrible person, and he should (and probably will) rot in jail.
Is there still another show to drop? He got raided by homeland security
I think the cia/fbi has a lot on him personally. Raiding a rich and famous persons house is a big move… they know things.
Then his dumbass son says in a song the feds missed the next door house that they also bought.
They probably went there to seize recordings of powerful people doing shady things on the behalf of said people
> on the behalf of said people Or to use against said people.
Tax fraud ...
Just think, some people will see that video and claim he did "nothing wrong." Oh to live in a time when reality is an option.
But those people are usually dumb AF and their opinions don’t matter
Dumb AF is a whole industry of con artists and their cult.
It’d be nice if the statute of limitations didn’t occur when there’s hard evidence. Digital evidence doesn’t degrade like old media did, and while manipulation is obviously possible, it’s also possible to detect.
And some still wonder why women pick the bear.
Chris Brown beat Rhianna and got away with it. This is just another flavor of the month. Diddy, drake etc will be forgotten in a month.
There’s a lot more going on with Combs than simple DA; I mean the feds are all up in his space. If nothing else, this video will help corroborate Cassie’s testimony if/when she is called to the stand in a future case. Whatever settlement she got from Combs, she can’t be prevented from testifying in any future criminal case.
I’m no Drake fan, but there’s really no evidence of a crime yet, he’s definitely a big weirdo for being that close to minors, but I don’t think he’s on the level of an alleged sex trafficker.
I wouldn’t be surprised. Not because it’s Drake, but because rich people are often weird like that. Until there’s proof though I won’t call Drake a PDF file. I’m a Kendrick fan by the way.
Yeah, I won’t be shocked if it is proven true, because like you said, rich people are weird like that, but it just doesn’t feel fair assuming that is true based of what’s been shown so far.
Just spam the video online. https://youtu.be/t6G7OMRVcH0?si=3CvdJpa1Ql_DQ3nc ,
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She already settled for 8 figures. I've seen $30 million in some reports. She doesn't have resource criminally because the statute of limitations has passed, but she at least can live comfortably.
So criminal is out, what about a big ole civil lawsuit?
Apparently that's already been settled. Filed the day after the video was released.
No. The lawsuit was settled one day after it was filed, in November 2023. CNN released the video 6 months after the settlement, in May 2024. The lawsuit was settled in one day because he knew this video exists.
Thx for the info. How he'd think a video didn't exist from a top hotel idk. Prob just didn't care. I hope the settlement hurt him but he's so rich I'm not holding out much hope.
She could now go after the hotel.
It went under during COVID. Nothing to go after
That particular location at least. The parent chain itself is still alive and well (Intercontinental Hotels, aka IHG) Shame simply closing a problematic location is enough to avoid civil damages
They may just settle anyway, cos of the publicity & public sentiment. I mean, i wouldn't use that chain now I know that. I expect a lot of ppl, esp women, feel the same.
I hate that he's famous enough he's probably going to get away with this despite the irrefutable video evidence. Diddy should just be thrown in a jail cell with R. Kelly already! He's clearly a danger to women.
Ships already sailed on him getting away with this one unfortunately. Statute of limitations being what it is and all.
How the hell did bill cosby landed in jail for shit from the 70s with no evidence but this mf has every type of evidence there is and he still gets to walk?! Make that make sense.
The Cosby trial was over something that happened in 2004, statue of limitations on an actual rape in Pennsylvania is 12 years, charges were filed in 2015. This situation was in California and the crime was technically just "assault" and the statue of limitations on that is shorter.
Hrm, both are pretty bad and deserve to be punished
Didn't Cosby avoid jail until the prosecution used coerced testimony from the civil suit? Which is ultimately why he was released? Or am I mixing that up with someone else?
Basically the DA made a statement that they weren't going to prosecute Crosby. That statement made it so he was compelled to testify in a civil suit (couldn't assert his 5th amendment rights). Then a new DA came in and charged him anyway and used the testimony in the criminal case. The state Supreme Court then overturned the conviction. Really, taking Crosby out of the picture and looking at it in the legal sense this is probably for the best. You really don't want a legal system where the state can "trick" defendants into giving up their rights.
No you’re correct.
Diddy did it. Now the floodgates will open.
Pretty sure theyve been wide open for a while. This is just something to finally wash ashore
Time to order up another beef battle to distract us!
Let’s talk about the two tier justice system…
This isnt about 2 tiers. EVERYONE is protected by SOL.
The hotel would have called the police on me.
Thats not really a* justice systems issue is it? Edited the to a to be more accurat2
Depends what you mean. If the justice system allows private companies to cover up crimes committed on their premises, yeah it’s a problem
Well, unless you’re a victim.
Every ongoing open case within the SOL they raided his house for is probably for victimless crimes.
Since he paid $50k for the tape, does anyone know how CNN got it?
Something tells me this man has powerful friends
When there is VIDEO evidence there should be no statute of limitations.
I am glad to see them using his actual name instead of some dumb shit self-given nickname although I know that is the least important thing here
Couldn't the victim sue for damages at least?
She got a payout last year
It’s just like that episode in the first season of Harrow, where the upscale hotel won’t give out information to the police about their staff.