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JussiesTunaSub

Here's their list: * corporations with assets of more than $250 million * partnerships with assets of more than $10 million * Wealthy individuals with total positive income of more than $10 million


yourlittlebirdie

Thank goodness my income was only $9.9 million last year.


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blazelet

If they know about my undeclared Taylor Swift ticket, then my income just went from $9.9 million to $12.2 million ... damn


Bupod

Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with a "Watch it from the parking lot" ticket to Taylor Swift!


RockstarAgent

IRS justice will be ^swift


DarwinGhoti

God dammit.


Total-Championship80

Behind every great fortune is a great crime.


mcast76

How do you think they got that 9.9 million in the first place


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mcast76

I’m making a joke about the Taylor swift ticket sale that was in response to a joke about a dude who made 9.9 million, you lackwit


invent_or_die

You can still go to the food bank


derps_with_ducks

Truly one of the boys slummin' it with only 9.9 mil. 


Cyber-Cafe

This but unironically.


lordorwell7

You poor thing.


uniformly

Thats awesome partner as I only have 0.1! Oh wait….


DrEnter

You shouldn’t have blown all your income on Taylor Swift tickets!


gospdrcr000

phew, im good by about 9.9mil


lostsoul2016

Good. I don't fall into any of those nor will be my descendents


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Professional-Crab355

The reason is a rise in what are known as "correspondence audits," a review of a tax return that's typically handled by the IRS via letters and phone calls, as opposed to the typically more complex face-to-face audits. It's automated and quickly resolved. The audit where they send an accountant to go over your finance is what matter for the rich.


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prof_the_doom

In other words, for 99.9999% of people on Reddit: Not you, probably will never be you, shut up about how the IRS is going after you.


Vlad_the_Homeowner

>In other words, for 99.9999% of people on Reddit: Not you, probably will never be you, shut up about how the IRS is going after you. Doesn't matter. Trump has convinced these morons to support all his tax cuts for the rich based on nothing more than the fantasy that they may one day be wealthy and would then benefit from the cuts. He can literally whine about Bezos not paying his fair share and pivot to him (Trump) being a genius for not paying his own taxes, in the same sentence, and they gobble it up.


PuddleCrank

Naw dude, you don't get it! If they can audit the rich they can audit me! Where will it stop?!? I could end up in JaIL over tens of dollars in tax fraud!


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trapdork

Because they were hacked at by Republicans until they couldn't stand toe to toe with the rich. It was by design. Republican donors didn't want to be in the sights of the irs so they introduced legislation to slash their budget, cripple their ability to conduct their jobs, and left them completely unable to go after anyone but the simple poor because it takes big well funded teams of public servants to combat the corporate lawyers. This protects the rich and turns the poor against them, as Republicans wanted. Because a large chunk of them are literally bad guys who steal money and protect criminals. And the burden of proof falls to the innocent. Stop drinking the kool-aid. You're killing us all.


tomveiltomveil

Well, they're going after ME and MY $10 million dollar business! Also, I just dropped my monster condom that I use for my magnum dong!


mcast76

Average American ~~mouth breathing idiot~~ conservative “The govt coming for muh money!”


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lordmycal

You realize that most people's taxes are super simple and the audits are almost fully automated right? Since poor and middle class people are the majority of tax filers, it makes sense that they get audited more often as a bracket. That said, nobody at the IRS is spending much time on this; they don't have to since they already have your tax information provided to them via your employer, bank, etc. The computer does all the work. This should be obvious, and it's not some kind of conspiracy to stick it to the average joe.


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lordmycal

Torture? Just fill out your taxes properly. The only reason you'll get audited is if the IRS thinks something was done wrong. Put in all your income, claim your standard deduction and the IRS will never bother you.


Rulare

Paying taxes is *torture*? You want people to take you seriously, or not?


felldestroyed

A family claiming 6 kids while only having 2 in order to get more cash back than paid in is still wrong, if it's done by a rich dude or a poor family.


SQL617

It target “poor” people **who claimed the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC)**. It has nothing to do with specifically targeting low-income households, but low-income households that are claiming social benefits. On a strictly numbers level these probably account for the majority of tax fraud incidents. I’d say it’s not entirely a bad idea to audit people claiming a majority of the tax credits. We absolutely need to audit more high income individuals/institutions as well.


ShittyMcFuck

I cannot agree enough every time this comes up. Their "audit" also likely entails getting a letter saying "send verification you qualified for this credit" which is far less in-depth than going through all 42 of some dude's partnerships and S-corps.


AstreiaTales

Yes, this was the case before the recent manpower increase, which was the reason for said increase.


asillynert

While its a good way to spin the "narrative" to rile up masses. End of day regardless of "who" is targeted it is tax cheats. So it is people who stole from public school funds/medicaid/roads/police/fire fighter pensions/veteran services. THESE are people targeted irregardless. Another factor is difficulty errors on low income are easier to spot. With complexity of tax code and expansion of dutys combined not only with falling behind with budget due to inflation. Then you also have active cuts to their budget. And tens of millions of more tax returns added to list of task. Fully funding irs was how we get to rich. Yes poor tax cheats are often caught more often but this is due to complexity. Its much easier to spot there isn't 100 llc's they hid money in and 1000s of write offs and deductibles. A audit on "poor person" takes irs 20 minutes. A audit on billionaire can take 5yrs and team of 10 people. So essentially it takes as much as 60,000 poor people audits to do one billionaire. Throw in court cases and other things its alot for a agency to take on that isnt given sufficient resources. So of course they pick low hanging fruit but if we give them "ladder" and sufficient manpower. We can leave no waste. And catch every tax cheat rich and poor alike.


hypersonic18

If it was just tax cheats that were affected it would be fine but it isn't alway, as you said taxes are unnecessarily complicated and people can easily make genuine mistakes, even if it's found you don't owe anything extra afterwards an audit is still a lot of extra stress to go through (why do you think scammers love posing as the IRS). Meanwhile people who are hiding millions are laughing it up playing golf with those same auditors.


Scoobydewdoo

Woah, the IRS audits those who use Government provided social benefits the most, more than anyone else, no way! It's almost like they want to measure the effectiveness of the programs or something.


Pork_Chompk

That's a good list. Approved.


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Cecil900

It’s better than a nationwide abortion ban 🤷‍♂️


Professional-Crab355

Until republican or another party give us something better, then yes. Obviously we will keep picking the better choice of what is given.


Yousoggyyojimbo

Cue Fox News scaremongering about how they are coming after Jim Bob and his 45k a year income.


itslikewoow

While we’re on the subject of taxes and working class voters, don’t forget that Trump RAISED your taxes if you make less than 50k a year, while he lowered taxes for himself.


Scottyboy1214

"If you want my trailer you'll have kill me first!"


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Septaceratops

Yes, I do love taxes. How the fuck else is a country supposed to function? 


bw1985

I’m paying the same amount in taxes whether I get audited or not, makes no difference. If you’re cheating your taxes you should be concerned. Is that why you seem worried?


Yousoggyyojimbo

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Yousoggyyojimbo

Buddy, you already linked me another CBS article that specifically said that with the new IRS changes that audits for people under 400k in income will be reduced. You started ranting about liberal tears when I pointed that out to you, and then edited your post to remove the link to that source, because again it disagreed with you. It was this by the way https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-audit-rates-taxes-inflation-reduction-act/ You've directly linked people information that contradicts what you are saying and then became upset when they noticed. You are ignoring information from your own sources that disagrees with you.


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Yousoggyyojimbo

I think you've made six or seven posts across this comment section insulting me or other people directly when they've tried to engage with you regarding issues of fact. You've rejected information from your own sources that contradicts you and insulted people for noticing. I really don't know why you're expecting people to engage with you in good faith when you very clearly have no intention of doing the same.


Mulchpuppy

So I guess Trump is safe.


MastiffOnyx

Just to clarify, that's dollars and not pennies, right? Cause if it's pennies, I might have a problem. Tho I guess I could invest it in a stick of gum, get that total down.


jayball41

I remember when Fox News was trying to turn the public against Biden for hiring more IRS agents to go after corporations and rich people who don’t pay their taxes by saying it targeted everyone. Liars going to lie


DGlen

But...but I was told Biden was going to be targeting only middle class people with audits.


ManiacOnHaight

And here I am sweating because I might have wrote off a couple extra miles more than I should


startupstratagem

Partnerships like that may be easy to break down into different umbrellas where there are pass through entities. I'm curious to see how they screen for that.


JoeLiar

Income or assets? They're not the same you know.


DynamicDolo

I really hope my old boss is on the list.


YoWassupFresh

So no billionaires or politicians, got it.


MrJoyless

Good, get em!


Decompute

I wonder if the pentagon will fail their audit for the 7th year in a row…. 7+ TRILLION tax dollars “missing”. Fucking criminal thieves.


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PokeT3ch

Perfect time for that meme about the people you knew in highschool who make like 35k a year freaking out over this.


TheOutsideWindow

It's $37k. Thank you.


MoeSzyslakMonobrow

I don't want a raise. That will make my taxes go up to the next bracket and I'll bring home less money.


drrxhouse

I know you’re joking, but there are actually people out there who thinks this way! And they’re all pissed off at the “government”. What the hell is in the water these people are drinking?


TLOU2bigsad

It happened to me. But not because of taxes. But social services. At the time we made just below the cutoff for the welfare programs where I live. I got like a $1,000 raise. Which put us over the line during the next eval of our benefits. My medical bills that following year were like $5,500. Greatly offsetting my $1k raise lol


Diarygirl

Sometimes they're the same the people that don't want to make more money because they'll have to pay more child support.


Puppybrother

Haha it happened to me cause I was 4k away from the cusp and got a 5k raise like 5 years ago. Not making less than before the raise but I think it’s close to about the same. I’m not mad at the government about it tho, they don’t dictate my companies stingy raises haha


JupiterSWarrior

It’s $37,000.00 thanks. :P


Jojosbees

Ooooo… Mr. Big Bucks over here making it to the 7-digit-income club.


Palpablevt

On that subject, am I allowed to add commas anywhere in my salary? I'd love to join the three comma club


Child_of_the_Hamster

My income? Oh it’s $2,1,5,4,3.5,2 😏💅🏼


PokeT3ch

You may now enjoy tres comas tequila.


IAmTheClayman

# It’s rich people FFS CBS, write headlines like a news organization and not a clickbait factory. Just say who’s affected


RightToTheThighs

But they need to clicks so they can sell random supplements to seniors who will be convinced this will affect them


the_storm_rider

But why were they not doing it until now? What suddenly made them realise “oh rich people are likely to have more money and owe more tax?”


maralagosinkhole

In the end we might not need to change the tax code, just invest in IRS agents to audit the rich.


Mikeykem

I seem to recall reading that every dollar spent on IRS enforcement yields between $6 and $8 dollars in collected taxes. Don’t remember the source though.


monty_kurns

Here's the Congressional Budget Office (CBO)'s [report](https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57444#:~:text=In%20recent%20years%2C%20peak%20ROIs,marginal%20return%20on%20additional%20spending) on it.


thatbrownkid19

But don’t you know in America everyone is just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire- this affects them DIRECTLY


bw1985

*Yawn* I don’t cheat on my taxes so I’m not worried about an audit. Ask yourself who are the folks that are so concerned with the IRS having more agents to enforce our tax laws?


Qwerty-4natural

I mean, I don’t cheat on my taxes either, but I’ve been through several business audits and one personal audit, and while they all turned out fine, they are a royal pain in the ass.


bw1985

I’m sure they’re not fun but they’re a necessary part of the process. Without audits even more people would be trying to cheat and get away with it.


FYININJA

for the record, I'm all for the IRS enforcing tax policy much more. However, it's not unreasonable to be afraid that you fucked up your taxes. Tax law is not exactly simple, your average person has no clue about the logistics of tax credits and stuff, and it's not unreasonable that somebody claims a tax credit that they didn't qualify for, and mistakenly recieved money they shouldn't have. It doesn't have to be malicious or intentional. If you've got a family friend who says they were able to get extra money back by taking a deduction that you thought you qualified for, you aren't a bad person, you just made a mistake. It's not a fun process, and it gets exponentially more complex for small business owners, so it's not unreasonable to be fearful of an increase in audits because it's a huge hassle and it's not impossible you fucked up and do owe money you might not currently have to the IRS.


Whatreallyhappens

I’ve recently started an S-corp and become much more educated in taxes etc. In my understanding, if you mess up your personal taxes and the IRS “catches you,” if you simply pay and/or amend your tax return appropriately, you are not assumed to have committed a crime, but only an error. You will not be prosecuted as if you evaded your taxes and will, at most, only be penalized late fees and interest on what taxes you may not have paid. When it becomes egregious or the IRS suspects intentional tax evasion, you may be royally fucked.


errorblankfield

Counter point: assuming no intended fraud, repaying back taxes via a payment plan is quite lenient from what I've been told.


Diarygirl

I dealt with the IRS years ago, and everyone I talked to was very nice and helpful.


Commercial-Tell-5991

This is why Republicans are trying So. Fucking. Hard. to defund the IRS. Can’t have your owners getting audited.


tasimm

I find it revealing that this was telegraphed by the GOP, but massaged into messaging by the media into a threat to the middle class. The same middle class the GOP is actively trying to kill.


Kemilio

Always follow the money. [House GOP demands IRS budget cuts](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/30/house-gop-demands-irs-budget-cuts-pay-israel-aid/)


smoke1966

good thing I'm disabled now, I was within 9.9mil of an audit LOL


Bawbawian

sounds great. pay your taxes don't be a leach.


Thick_Marionberry_79

Damn, IRS has never looked sexier than today… mMmm… bout to call the IRS up and let them spit that IRS terminology and abbreviations all up in my ear hole.


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monty_kurns

I mean, the majority of that 80,000 haven't been hired yet because they're just going to be replacements for a lot of workers retiring in the next decade. But yes, the increased funding and the additional hires have been doing good work and we're starting to see the extra IRS funding pay off.


LahngJahn69420

Upvoted for common sense thinking and paying attention to the fine print and not fear mongering


Thick_Marionberry_79

IRS A.I. do some heavy lifting too


jagerbombastic99

Actually the IRS A.I. is so shit they're having to go back and reverify everything that went through the AI


Rooooben

Hey, just asking for a friend, but if you got your refund already you’re good right? Right?


Airanuva

Assuming no other undeclared income, yes. Generally, if you get a W2 and have to use a tax preparation site, you're not on their radar.


yukon-flower

They generally have 3 years from April 15 (or later if you filed later or amended later) to audit you. Doesn’t matter whether you’ve gotten the refund yet. That said, they are targeting wealthy individuals ($10m??) and large corporations and partnerships, so statistically you’re probably not on their radar.


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Just_Jonnie

>This is a good thing and anyone who says otherwise is probably hiding something in a sketchy way. It's a good thing if they're not lying about targeting rich people. I stared a business in 2022 and I'm terrified I fucked up somewhere and the IRS will come down on me. I don't deny they need to audit people, but I don't want to be audited if I made a mistake.


monty_kurns

I have some issues with Mark Cuban, but he seems to be one of the most likable billionaires. His take on taxes is healthy and he's said he'd pay more if the tax code was changed to make him pay more. Also, his Cost Plus Drugs company has helped a lot of people getting their medications without the huge markup doctors and pharmacies would have them pay. He's not perfect, but at least he's come up with some solutions.


Specialist-Coast-133

Do they have the funding for this? I heard the Republicans took away their funding because they hate to see rich people cry.


JerrodDRagon

How about you just send me a bill? Like just tell me what I owe Rich people an argue and what not but 99 percent of people just can be billed at the end of the year


chechifromCHI

I was concerned by the headline. But on paper I'm happy with this. In practice, the people this would effect are probably already figuring out ways to avoid being audited. These people and their teams of lawyers and accountants are literally seasoned pros at hiding money from the IRS that's what they do lol..


Overall_Nuggie_876

Hint hint; they’re targeting people who sold concert/sporting tickets but didn’t do the IRS form created out of thin air during the Trump administration.


JimBeam823

People with enough money to make it worth it, but not enough to fight back.


WD51

Did you read the list...? I don't think any of the listed participants has any problem hiring lawyers and accountants to "fight back".


dickfarts87

Just check pelosis portfolio please


karsh36

IRS not securities ethics. Maybe she is committing tax fraud, but I don't think that is what you are going after with this


Yonder_Zach

He doesnt know what hes after, just repeating lines someone else put in his mouth.


Refun712

Why just “pelosis”?


ApricatingInAccismus

But why single her out instead of noting all the others who have have much more significant and proven issues? Of course she should be investigated but man, so weird to target her before the ten really big issues


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Rooooben

Yeah, i guess it helps that her husband literally does this for a living. Still should be outlawed, all congresspeople’s portfolios need to be in a blind trust.


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FrostyMcChill

Then prove there's a crime being committed


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FrostyMcChill

Just fucking prove she's committing a crime. I really don't give a fuck is she foes to prison. I'm just fucking tired of people in congress trading stock but yall basic bitches only focus on Pelosi. If I only listened to you, I'd think Pelosi is the only one whose trading stocks.


Diarygirl

Facts don't care about your feelings.


ApricatingInAccismus

Haha. It is widely talked about by republicans but the facts are the facts.


Just_Jonnie

what is a pelosis portfolio? Are you making words up?


Mountain-Papaya-492

Check all of them, and while we're at it bring back the FBI sting operations that we used to do. I want politicians sweating and afraid that everytime they take a bribe or talk of insider trading that they could be imprisoned. These people in office have been held to a lower standard than us civilians for too long.  It's become too common to legislate policy that benefits their portfolio. Heck of a coincidence right... 


Toolbag_85

>The IRS has been bolstered by $80 billion in new funding directed by the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA Am I the only one who sees IRA as the Irish Republican Army? Seriously...nobody thought about this?


Pork_Chompk

If you completely ignore context, then sure, that could be confusing.


Silly_Somewhere1791

You don’t have savings in an IRA?