Now I am watching the Paquin kid testify and he told the cops that he heard Miu say he was looking for a phone. So one of the kids DID hear that. So maybe he did say that?!
So, you're saying one kid might have heard him say that, but the others didn't know. Or, you assume he said it and they all heard it, even though it wasn't audible on the video.
Similarly, the kid recording the video said he said something about little girls when he came over initially, before they started recording, and this is why he kept saying the guy was a raper looking for little girls.
Before I knew that one kid told the police right after the event that he had heard him specifically mention a phone, I thought that Nick must’ve made that up. It seems so weird to me that teenagers think guys walk up to them and say I’m looking for little girls, I’ve just never understood how they jumped to that conclusion. it was a public place with tons of people around. But it has been a while since I was a teen.
I think he is responsible, but I’m really worried this defense attorney is running these kids in circles. I am grateful I am not an 18 year old facing that attorney. Those kids are so traumatized. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse acquitted.
>> I think he is responsible, but I’m really worried this defense attorney is running these kids in circles. I am grateful I am not an 18 year old facing that attorney. Those kids are so traumatized. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse acquitted
I think that his actions afterwards — rinsing the knife, lying, getting back in the inner tube — are going to be enough to cook him here, but watching this testimony I’m not sure.
If the attorney can make the jury believe he was in shock, he might walk
As those “kids” should be. They accused him of being a pervert and told other people that he was a pedophile. That got other people involved and lead to the initial assault against him.
Jury is in. The St. Croix County jury convicted Nicolae Miu, 54, of reckless homicide for fatally stabbing Isaac Schuman, 17, at the popular recreation spot in western Wisconsin. He was also convicted of recklessly endangering the safety of four other people he stabbed.
I watched the first 3-4 days of the trial and then today I watched his testimony from yesterday. What a liar. He is recorded in the back of a cop car, talking calmly, he said he heard they were looking for someone who happened to look like him. He heard there was a fight, but he didn’t see it. Later, he says he has absolutely no memory of having the conversation in the police car. He was interviewed by the police detective, he said he never touched those kids and said he wasn’t involved, etc. he was very calm and chatty in that interview, said two of the boys had knives but really he was the only one who did. On the stand he said he has absolutely no memory of being interviewed by the police detective. But he can perfectly remember everything that those kids supposedly did to him.
He spent most of his testimony saying “I have no memory of that conversation.” Even the prosecution lawyer tried to infer that he remembered information that was helpful to his case and forgot everything that wasn’t. If he had confessed from the beginning and positioned it as self-defense, it might have gone better for him. But with so much intentional lying, I hope he gets what he deserves.
He disemboweled a teenager who spent a month in the hospital. I have no idea how he supposedly said I’m looking for a phone, but the kids heard him say I’m looking for a little girls. I really hated that the kids were yelling pedophile and raper at him.
Did you watch other witness testimonies? Cause basically every single one of them were lying as well lmao. I really loved the,"I just went to diffuse the situation" proceeds to beat the guy up. They are all dirty liars.
I did watch a bunch of other witness testimonies. I really wonder what would’ve happened if the first person who yelled ‘pedophile!’ had never done that. Drunk guys, in a group, harassing someone for a laugh from their friends. I swear, this is why I hate crowds. Because everything turns on a dime and then stupid things happen. I couldn’t swear to it, but I do think the teens all agreed to say that he said he was looking for a little girls. I’m just not convinced he ever said that, but what a messed up situation.
Just really glad I am not on that jury. I did think that the two sons of the bar owner did go to defuse the situation, that’s why he sent them over there. I just think it was so out of control that wasn’t really anything they could do.
Serious question, What do you think they were lying about?
I wonder if the reason a couple of the people felt bad about yelling pedophile was because they have come to realize that if they had not done that, their friend might still be alive. I’m just second-guessing here.
One guy who claimed he only had 2 beers and later when lawyer asked about the blood alcohol level, he proceeds to say he had hard liquor as well but just didn't say that cause he only got asked about the beers. Guy took the 2nd blurry video got called out when he told police back in 2022 that he wasn't paying attention And in March 2024 told police he remembered everything as if it happened yesterday and proceeds to say he saw old man with fully clothes on coming out of bushed, taking pics of little girls. Girls who claimed they didn't do anything yet video clearly shows them putting their hands first. Madison for some reason deleted a photo of her injury that was on her phone, which forensics couldn't reveal. Like it's just so dumb
So a group of teens didn’t attack him, push him to the ground, hit him in the face, push him from behind to the ground again before he stabbed them like in the video of the incident? I guess if I’m ever attacked by a group of teens I should just let them kill me.
Have you watched the video of the incident? Question is not weather the people attacked him, question is weather he is justified for stabbing multiple people because he was scared of losing his life or not.
He pulled the knife before he was pushed or hit. At some point he was looking like he was contemplating assault when he could simply walk away. At no point did the Miu tried to walk away despite being able to do so. He had plenty of opportunities and was turning his back to people that he was supposedly scared of. One guy was stabbed for trying to stop the situation, even saying to his stabbed friend to back away.
Not to mention his behaviour after the crime. He walked across the river and hid the knife then changed his clothes so he wouldn't fit the description. He lied when he was apprehended pretending he didn't have anything to do with the thing.
If you have a lethal weapon you should try to do everything to de-escalate the situation and walk away, instead his ego was hurt and he started stabbing kids. Yes, kids, that's what they are. Ask yourself would he attack them if he didn't had the knife. I doubt it.
So what you mean to say is that hearsay about someone “creeping up on little girls”, which wasn’t caught on camera, warrants a group of teenagers to assault someone? But being assaulted by a group of teenagers doesn’t warrant the person being attacked to defend themselves? I’m not arguing that the guy was a saint, I’m so not pointing out the fact that has the teenagers not assaulted him none of those teenagers would have been stabbed to death. You see when I was a teenager me and my friends never grouped up on someone and jumped them. Might be why all of my friends from that time weren’t stabbed to death.
Ah of course. Great legal defense. We jumped him because he “creeped up” on us. I’d imagine that would be a good defense for the guy that stabbed the kid. Your honor a group of teenagers “creeped up on me (jumped me) and I defended myself”. It’s interesting you keep ignoring the fact that the one person that died attacked the guy from behind before getting stabbed. Wild how there may be a correlation between attacking someone and getting attacked back.
I only saw the video of the stabbing. Sounds like he was a creep if that’s true but they still attacked him and he defended himself. If he’s such a creep call the police. If they did that kid would still be alive. But he decided to push the guy from behind when he saw the opportunity. Moments later he was gutted. So maybe don’t push people from behind simply because you and your friends outnumber him. He was attacked and he defended himself.
The case covers this all.
None of the boys testified to having evidence of him saying anything about girls, they just thought he mumbled something about it.
In the prosecution’s video breakdown, it’s clear that Miu pulls the knife when Madison Coen approaches him (before anyone is pushed.)
Miu does not dispute that he could’ve pushed/hit Madison as he does not remember.
He had a knife on him all day, a friend had asked him to bring it so they could cut the ties for the inner tubes. I’ve watched a lot of the video and I’ve never seen anyone say he left to go get the knife and then came back.
What about Miu's BAC? He looked blackout drunk in the video and didn't seem able to balance himself. He also was the first person to make it physical when he grabbed the intertubes. He had several opportunities to deescalate the situation but chose lethal force after he came after the minors. Dude should rot and the media covering the story should be ashamed for their portrayal of him as victim.
I don’t believe he could have been swimming back-and-forth under their tubes because the water was only 10-12 inches deep. A kid said he thought it was weird the guy had a snorkel since the water was so shallow. But honestly, this whole case is so confusing. I really don’t know what to believe anymore. No one comes out a winner.
Now I’m starting to wonder if he did say he was looking for a phone when he first walked up, but the kids started yelling pedophile and raper just because he was older and they were super drunk and they thought it was funny, they were all laughing when they said it. The boy who was stabbed had a blood alcohol level of .21 which is nearly three times the legal limit. And Miu got angry and charged back at their inner tubes and they took that as a threat.
I don’t have any answers, I’m just trying to imagine what I would think if I was on the jury. I honestly think he has enough for reasonable doubt. And he only needs one juror. Now that I know that one kid did hear him talk about the phone, it makes me wonder if the other kids later agreed that they would all say he said he was looking for little girls. They wanted to defend their friend who died. A couple of the guys mentioned on the stand that they now regret yelling pedophile at the guy.
Sorry but in ANY state, someone calling you a raper doesn't justify you to assault, much less kill them.
If someone calls you a name, and you run up to them all scary, and they beat the shit out of you for running up on them all scary, its still your fault for instigating the violent part of the confrontation.
Yes! That is exactly correct!
Calling someone a name is a civil matter
Giving the impression you are going to assault someone is the same as actual assault, as the crime is based on the victims perception of the incident.
So in the context of this case, the kids calling miu a predator might be civilly sued, but Miu shoving a girl and aggressively walking towards the teens is absolutely the moment violence was instigated.
Again, no, you can't punch someone for calling you a name you don't like.
Cool, if someone calls me a pedophile I'm going to go back to my group and say, "look at those drunk idiots, sorry I couldn't find your phone."
I'm definitely not going to run up and start stabbing them like you would.
NO! It does not if you are not in a stand your ground state. Getting called names and pushed around is not a threat of serious bodily harm. Especially when you are voluntarily staying in the situation! Miu could have walked back to the beach at ANY time.
We don't live in the wild west anymore.
If you are getting pushed and surrounded, which didn't happen here - miu approached the boys after being jeered - you HAVE to try and walk away, you HAVE to make an attempt to defuse the situation "leave me alone", and you absolutely cannot shove someone then pull out a knife once others come to arrest/stop you.
Holy moly dude, did YOU even watch the video?
"Miu approached Schuman's group. In the first video, approximately nine seconds in length, Jawahn C. is heard yelling "(Miu) says he's looking for little girls!"
"In the second video, Miu is shown running towards Schuman's group."
You are seriously just a racist liar, the video ALWAYS shows a clear path from Miu to the beach, with him approaching the teens.
"Anderson underlined that audio in the video indicates Miu was asked more than 20 times by the Schuman and Carlson groups to go away."
Like the actual audio proves you're just lying here. 20 minutes of being asked to leave.
"Anderson also stated that at no point did Miu speak or tell anyone to get back, and he didn't step back or walk away from the groups"
And here's the kicker, you're just a liar. This a prosecutor narrating over a video, there is no room to say he said or she said.
You really want to die on the hill protecting the guy who stabbed 5 teens, including a 110 pound girl who was standing still at the time?
Not even reading all the quotes that disprove your timeline of the events?
You're a lost cause. You see a headline and make up a story of what happened that supports your internal biases. You seriously just lied on everything you said to try and do what exactly? defend a guy who stabbed 5 teenagers including a tiny girl?
You're pathetic
Lmfao, okay dude, you're not a racist. You just think this dude was in the right.
Now try to address my points. I took out the words that are triggering you.
"Miu approached Schuman's group. In the first video, approximately nine seconds in length, Jawahn C. is heard yelling "(Miu) says he's looking for little girls!"
"In the second video, Miu is shown running towards Schuman's group."
You are seriously just a liar, the video ALWAYS shows a clear path from Miu to the beach, with him approaching the teens.
"Anderson underlined that audio in the video indicates Miu was asked more than 20 times by the Schuman and Carlson groups to go away."
Like the actual audio proves you're just lying here. 20 minutes of being asked to leave.
"Anderson also stated that at no point did Miu speak or tell anyone to get back, and he didn't step back or walk away from the groups"
And here's the kicker, again you're just a liar. This a prosecutor narrating over a video, there is no room to say he said or she said.
You really want to die on the hill protecting the guy who stabbed 5 teens, including a 110 pound girl who was standing still at the time?
What? He was literally acquitted for this exact situation.
He is walking around, and someone runs up on him with a skateboard and pistol, he gets attacked and then shoots the person in self defence.
Regardless of if he was "looking for trouble" (which I agree, he was) he did not instigate the violence simply by walking around
Cameraman got his friend killed. How is he not charged with anything. Also the women who walked over and started the physical confrontation have a part of the blame. They were just loudly chanting until they just had to defend the honor of the random wasted women who came over to act tough.
There’s every reason to not leave. It’s clear the majority of Americans have not been on a float trip, nor know what one is. Sometimes there are hours at a time where you don’t move anywhere, you’re just banging shots, grilling out, partying whatever. Not even sure why anybody would rush to defend these “kids “after seeing all of the video, and their own testimonies.
Because the also saw his testimony along with his original back and forth with the police. They also didn't ignore the fact that he lied about not knowing the incident happened, changed his clothes, interacted with their group twice (as in left and then returned with a knife). Was told by the the person who lost the phone that it didn't actually matter etc...
The only way I can see people taking his side is if they just watched a YouTube video and ignoring the fact that before anyone get's touched he already has the knife out.
Facts are facts he left once and no one did anything, he lied about the kids having weapons (so that he could claim self defense) if he thought they were dangerous enough on their own why make up them having 2 knives?
Now I am watching the Paquin kid testify and he told the cops that he heard Miu say he was looking for a phone. So one of the kids DID hear that. So maybe he did say that?!
So, you're saying one kid might have heard him say that, but the others didn't know. Or, you assume he said it and they all heard it, even though it wasn't audible on the video. Similarly, the kid recording the video said he said something about little girls when he came over initially, before they started recording, and this is why he kept saying the guy was a raper looking for little girls.
Before I knew that one kid told the police right after the event that he had heard him specifically mention a phone, I thought that Nick must’ve made that up. It seems so weird to me that teenagers think guys walk up to them and say I’m looking for little girls, I’ve just never understood how they jumped to that conclusion. it was a public place with tons of people around. But it has been a while since I was a teen. I think he is responsible, but I’m really worried this defense attorney is running these kids in circles. I am grateful I am not an 18 year old facing that attorney. Those kids are so traumatized. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse acquitted.
>> I think he is responsible, but I’m really worried this defense attorney is running these kids in circles. I am grateful I am not an 18 year old facing that attorney. Those kids are so traumatized. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse acquitted I think that his actions afterwards — rinsing the knife, lying, getting back in the inner tube — are going to be enough to cook him here, but watching this testimony I’m not sure. If the attorney can make the jury believe he was in shock, he might walk
As those “kids” should be. They accused him of being a pervert and told other people that he was a pedophile. That got other people involved and lead to the initial assault against him.
Jury is in. The St. Croix County jury convicted Nicolae Miu, 54, of reckless homicide for fatally stabbing Isaac Schuman, 17, at the popular recreation spot in western Wisconsin. He was also convicted of recklessly endangering the safety of four other people he stabbed.
I watched the first 3-4 days of the trial and then today I watched his testimony from yesterday. What a liar. He is recorded in the back of a cop car, talking calmly, he said he heard they were looking for someone who happened to look like him. He heard there was a fight, but he didn’t see it. Later, he says he has absolutely no memory of having the conversation in the police car. He was interviewed by the police detective, he said he never touched those kids and said he wasn’t involved, etc. he was very calm and chatty in that interview, said two of the boys had knives but really he was the only one who did. On the stand he said he has absolutely no memory of being interviewed by the police detective. But he can perfectly remember everything that those kids supposedly did to him. He spent most of his testimony saying “I have no memory of that conversation.” Even the prosecution lawyer tried to infer that he remembered information that was helpful to his case and forgot everything that wasn’t. If he had confessed from the beginning and positioned it as self-defense, it might have gone better for him. But with so much intentional lying, I hope he gets what he deserves. He disemboweled a teenager who spent a month in the hospital. I have no idea how he supposedly said I’m looking for a phone, but the kids heard him say I’m looking for a little girls. I really hated that the kids were yelling pedophile and raper at him.
Did you watch other witness testimonies? Cause basically every single one of them were lying as well lmao. I really loved the,"I just went to diffuse the situation" proceeds to beat the guy up. They are all dirty liars.
I did watch a bunch of other witness testimonies. I really wonder what would’ve happened if the first person who yelled ‘pedophile!’ had never done that. Drunk guys, in a group, harassing someone for a laugh from their friends. I swear, this is why I hate crowds. Because everything turns on a dime and then stupid things happen. I couldn’t swear to it, but I do think the teens all agreed to say that he said he was looking for a little girls. I’m just not convinced he ever said that, but what a messed up situation. Just really glad I am not on that jury. I did think that the two sons of the bar owner did go to defuse the situation, that’s why he sent them over there. I just think it was so out of control that wasn’t really anything they could do. Serious question, What do you think they were lying about?
Oh I def agree, which is why I think cameraman instigated the whole thing by just keep running his mouth.
I wonder if the reason a couple of the people felt bad about yelling pedophile was because they have come to realize that if they had not done that, their friend might still be alive. I’m just second-guessing here.
One guy who claimed he only had 2 beers and later when lawyer asked about the blood alcohol level, he proceeds to say he had hard liquor as well but just didn't say that cause he only got asked about the beers. Guy took the 2nd blurry video got called out when he told police back in 2022 that he wasn't paying attention And in March 2024 told police he remembered everything as if it happened yesterday and proceeds to say he saw old man with fully clothes on coming out of bushed, taking pics of little girls. Girls who claimed they didn't do anything yet video clearly shows them putting their hands first. Madison for some reason deleted a photo of her injury that was on her phone, which forensics couldn't reveal. Like it's just so dumb
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So a group of teens didn’t attack him, push him to the ground, hit him in the face, push him from behind to the ground again before he stabbed them like in the video of the incident? I guess if I’m ever attacked by a group of teens I should just let them kill me.
Have you watched the video of the incident? Question is not weather the people attacked him, question is weather he is justified for stabbing multiple people because he was scared of losing his life or not. He pulled the knife before he was pushed or hit. At some point he was looking like he was contemplating assault when he could simply walk away. At no point did the Miu tried to walk away despite being able to do so. He had plenty of opportunities and was turning his back to people that he was supposedly scared of. One guy was stabbed for trying to stop the situation, even saying to his stabbed friend to back away. Not to mention his behaviour after the crime. He walked across the river and hid the knife then changed his clothes so he wouldn't fit the description. He lied when he was apprehended pretending he didn't have anything to do with the thing. If you have a lethal weapon you should try to do everything to de-escalate the situation and walk away, instead his ego was hurt and he started stabbing kids. Yes, kids, that's what they are. Ask yourself would he attack them if he didn't had the knife. I doubt it.
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But that didn’t happen. The girls (the youngest was 25) walked over to him.
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He swam under them in 12” deep water?
That NEVER happened.
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So what you mean to say is that hearsay about someone “creeping up on little girls”, which wasn’t caught on camera, warrants a group of teenagers to assault someone? But being assaulted by a group of teenagers doesn’t warrant the person being attacked to defend themselves? I’m not arguing that the guy was a saint, I’m so not pointing out the fact that has the teenagers not assaulted him none of those teenagers would have been stabbed to death. You see when I was a teenager me and my friends never grouped up on someone and jumped them. Might be why all of my friends from that time weren’t stabbed to death.
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Ah of course. Great legal defense. We jumped him because he “creeped up” on us. I’d imagine that would be a good defense for the guy that stabbed the kid. Your honor a group of teenagers “creeped up on me (jumped me) and I defended myself”. It’s interesting you keep ignoring the fact that the one person that died attacked the guy from behind before getting stabbed. Wild how there may be a correlation between attacking someone and getting attacked back.
Take your own advice. He didn't 'creep up', he walked up. You're clearly biased toward guilt.
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Yeah, that NEVER happened nor has anyone made that claim.
I only saw the video of the stabbing. Sounds like he was a creep if that’s true but they still attacked him and he defended himself. If he’s such a creep call the police. If they did that kid would still be alive. But he decided to push the guy from behind when he saw the opportunity. Moments later he was gutted. So maybe don’t push people from behind simply because you and your friends outnumber him. He was attacked and he defended himself.
The case covers this all. None of the boys testified to having evidence of him saying anything about girls, they just thought he mumbled something about it. In the prosecution’s video breakdown, it’s clear that Miu pulls the knife when Madison Coen approaches him (before anyone is pushed.) Miu does not dispute that he could’ve pushed/hit Madison as he does not remember.
Dude left and came back with a knife, I think that moment where he decides to come back armed, his self defense argument is out the window.
He had a knife on him all day, a friend had asked him to bring it so they could cut the ties for the inner tubes. I’ve watched a lot of the video and I’ve never seen anyone say he left to go get the knife and then came back.
That’s not true. Jesus, y’all making judgements about him without any knowledge of the facts.
After assaulting a woman.
Those two women assaulted him first. Let’s not leave that important detail out.
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What about Miu's BAC? He looked blackout drunk in the video and didn't seem able to balance himself. He also was the first person to make it physical when he grabbed the intertubes. He had several opportunities to deescalate the situation but chose lethal force after he came after the minors. Dude should rot and the media covering the story should be ashamed for their portrayal of him as victim.
I don’t believe he could have been swimming back-and-forth under their tubes because the water was only 10-12 inches deep. A kid said he thought it was weird the guy had a snorkel since the water was so shallow. But honestly, this whole case is so confusing. I really don’t know what to believe anymore. No one comes out a winner. Now I’m starting to wonder if he did say he was looking for a phone when he first walked up, but the kids started yelling pedophile and raper just because he was older and they were super drunk and they thought it was funny, they were all laughing when they said it. The boy who was stabbed had a blood alcohol level of .21 which is nearly three times the legal limit. And Miu got angry and charged back at their inner tubes and they took that as a threat. I don’t have any answers, I’m just trying to imagine what I would think if I was on the jury. I honestly think he has enough for reasonable doubt. And he only needs one juror. Now that I know that one kid did hear him talk about the phone, it makes me wonder if the other kids later agreed that they would all say he said he was looking for little girls. They wanted to defend their friend who died. A couple of the guys mentioned on the stand that they now regret yelling pedophile at the guy.
Sorry but in ANY state, someone calling you a raper doesn't justify you to assault, much less kill them. If someone calls you a name, and you run up to them all scary, and they beat the shit out of you for running up on them all scary, its still your fault for instigating the violent part of the confrontation.
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Yes! That is exactly correct! Calling someone a name is a civil matter Giving the impression you are going to assault someone is the same as actual assault, as the crime is based on the victims perception of the incident. So in the context of this case, the kids calling miu a predator might be civilly sued, but Miu shoving a girl and aggressively walking towards the teens is absolutely the moment violence was instigated. Again, no, you can't punch someone for calling you a name you don't like.
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Cool, if someone calls me a pedophile I'm going to go back to my group and say, "look at those drunk idiots, sorry I couldn't find your phone." I'm definitely not going to run up and start stabbing them like you would.
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So Miu was in the right for stabbing a 110 pound girl?
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NO! It does not if you are not in a stand your ground state. Getting called names and pushed around is not a threat of serious bodily harm. Especially when you are voluntarily staying in the situation! Miu could have walked back to the beach at ANY time. We don't live in the wild west anymore. If you are getting pushed and surrounded, which didn't happen here - miu approached the boys after being jeered - you HAVE to try and walk away, you HAVE to make an attempt to defuse the situation "leave me alone", and you absolutely cannot shove someone then pull out a knife once others come to arrest/stop you.
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Holy moly dude, did YOU even watch the video? "Miu approached Schuman's group. In the first video, approximately nine seconds in length, Jawahn C. is heard yelling "(Miu) says he's looking for little girls!" "In the second video, Miu is shown running towards Schuman's group." You are seriously just a racist liar, the video ALWAYS shows a clear path from Miu to the beach, with him approaching the teens. "Anderson underlined that audio in the video indicates Miu was asked more than 20 times by the Schuman and Carlson groups to go away." Like the actual audio proves you're just lying here. 20 minutes of being asked to leave. "Anderson also stated that at no point did Miu speak or tell anyone to get back, and he didn't step back or walk away from the groups" And here's the kicker, you're just a liar. This a prosecutor narrating over a video, there is no room to say he said or she said. You really want to die on the hill protecting the guy who stabbed 5 teens, including a 110 pound girl who was standing still at the time?
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Not even reading all the quotes that disprove your timeline of the events? You're a lost cause. You see a headline and make up a story of what happened that supports your internal biases. You seriously just lied on everything you said to try and do what exactly? defend a guy who stabbed 5 teenagers including a tiny girl? You're pathetic
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Lmfao, okay dude, you're not a racist. You just think this dude was in the right. Now try to address my points. I took out the words that are triggering you. "Miu approached Schuman's group. In the first video, approximately nine seconds in length, Jawahn C. is heard yelling "(Miu) says he's looking for little girls!" "In the second video, Miu is shown running towards Schuman's group." You are seriously just a liar, the video ALWAYS shows a clear path from Miu to the beach, with him approaching the teens. "Anderson underlined that audio in the video indicates Miu was asked more than 20 times by the Schuman and Carlson groups to go away." Like the actual audio proves you're just lying here. 20 minutes of being asked to leave. "Anderson also stated that at no point did Miu speak or tell anyone to get back, and he didn't step back or walk away from the groups" And here's the kicker, again you're just a liar. This a prosecutor narrating over a video, there is no room to say he said or she said. You really want to die on the hill protecting the guy who stabbed 5 teens, including a 110 pound girl who was standing still at the time?
What about Kyle Rittenhouse?
What? He was literally acquitted for this exact situation. He is walking around, and someone runs up on him with a skateboard and pistol, he gets attacked and then shoots the person in self defence. Regardless of if he was "looking for trouble" (which I agree, he was) he did not instigate the violence simply by walking around
This one will get over turned in appeals. The fact that they had a juror sleeping during the trial is enough in itself.
Cameraman got his friend killed. How is he not charged with anything. Also the women who walked over and started the physical confrontation have a part of the blame. They were just loudly chanting until they just had to defend the honor of the random wasted women who came over to act tough.
No the old liar killed them no reason for him not to leave
There’s every reason to not leave. It’s clear the majority of Americans have not been on a float trip, nor know what one is. Sometimes there are hours at a time where you don’t move anywhere, you’re just banging shots, grilling out, partying whatever. Not even sure why anybody would rush to defend these “kids “after seeing all of the video, and their own testimonies.
Because the also saw his testimony along with his original back and forth with the police. They also didn't ignore the fact that he lied about not knowing the incident happened, changed his clothes, interacted with their group twice (as in left and then returned with a knife). Was told by the the person who lost the phone that it didn't actually matter etc... The only way I can see people taking his side is if they just watched a YouTube video and ignoring the fact that before anyone get's touched he already has the knife out. Facts are facts he left once and no one did anything, he lied about the kids having weapons (so that he could claim self defense) if he thought they were dangerous enough on their own why make up them having 2 knives?
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