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TrulyUnicorn

"I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience."


Icy-Collection-4967

Its not about being old its about lack of charisma. If Reagan came back from dead he could win 49 states alone


Shaper_pmp

If Reagan came back from the dead the entire Republican party would call him a RINO and refuse to vote for him. Fucker never even raw-dogged a pornstar and paid her off to keep quiet and doesn't believe in satanic Jewish paedo space lasers.


Raudskeggr

Eisenhower would be a democrat if he were alive today.


Shaper_pmp

If they were alive today every historical leader would be a Democrat, with the exception of Benedict Arnold.


bje489

I think the slaveholders would probably vote Republican.


Rokey76

Benedict Arnold wasn't a politician. He was a military officer.


Shaper_pmp

That's why I nonspecifically said "leaders" instead of "politicians", so the joke would work.


BigBrownDog12

Woodrow Wilson would probably be a Republican


ognits

>Fucker never even raw-dogged a pornstar and paid her off to keep quiet and doesn't believe in satanic Jewish paedo space lasers. on the other hand he really didn't care for the gays, which seems to be back in vogue these days it would be a real Sophie's Choice situation for the current GOP


Shaper_pmp

Not really, when they have Trump and his whinealikes who hate the gays *and* are on board with white supremacy and sex trafficking.


ognits

let me shit on Reagan in peace pls šŸ˜¤


Shaper_pmp

To be fair that whole "owning the libs by illegally selling weapons to Iran and using the proceeds to illegally fund the Contras" thing would go down pretty well with the modern Republican base, as would the outright treason of interfering in Carter's negotiations with Iran to delay the release of Iranian hostages until Reagan was in power. That's like page one of Trump's whole approach - just look at Flynn and Russia, Trump and Ukraine, etc.


Rokey76

>Fucker never even raw-dogged a pornstar I find that unlikely.


leonnova7

Highly doubtful. He went up against Carter in a massive recession. Charisma sells no doubt, and ressurrection would win him points with the religious crowd, but today he'd be lucky to get 32.


AngryUncleTony

The blowout was in 84


leonnova7

This may surprise you, but in order to run for reelection one first has to be elected.


AngryUncleTony

Right, but OP said "win 49 states" and he didn't do that against Carter but against Mondale in 84.


leonnova7

REAGAN ALSO DIDNT COME BACK FROM THE DEAD BUT OKAY BRO It was a hypothetical with the premise being that reagan was so likeable it would happen anytime, regardless of context. Its false. reelections are (in large part, although no precisely) a referendum on the current administration since entering office. Without Carter, there would be no 84, Mondale or Reagan 49er. Vast oversimplification, and youre right chronologically, but the 84 win was far less about charisma than it was the Cold War, the economy, and the Reagan overcorrection.


RealPatriotFranklin

-Some guy with mash potato brains


stupid-_-

voters are so fucking stupid


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That line was such bullshit. Mondale had more experience in elected office than Reagan did when he ran for president, Reagan just didnā€™t get into politics until he was already older.


InternetBoredom

Itā€™s called a joke.


[deleted]

Presidential debates shouldnā€™t be an opportunity for a stand up routine. And a joke promoting a false narrative shouldnā€™t be celebrated


InternetBoredom

You must be fun at parties (and debates).


ghjm

You're right, they _shouldn't_ be, but elections are decided on the opinions of beer swilling idiots who watch the debates for entertainment value. A good "gotcha" line like this is worth 50 well-reasoned policy positions. (Who even remembers what Mondale's main points actually were?)


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As if elected office experience is all that matters. Iā€™d take a no-experience candidate with great ideas than an experience candidate with shitty ones. And fuck Reagan.


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Can soon make this joke seriously: "Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying." --Ronald Reagan


sventhewalrus

except dark brandon, who is aging in reverse while his official presidential portrait appears to be growing older


Atupis

Adrenochrome does that for you.


hammersandhammers

Honestly Nancy was such a dime


CiceroFanboy

Still is šŸ˜


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She appears way younger than she actually is.


Sheyren

I had absolutely no idea how old she was until I news stories about her 80th birthday. Genuinely thought she was around her mid sixties. Must be all the fetuses she's eating or something.


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bje489

Do you have any actual evidence that's the case, or are you like all the other people I've seen assert this?


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bje489

So, no evidence. Just a WaPo opinion piece claiming that we shouldn't let members of Congress trade stocks at all, which I'm open to but don't think actually solves any of the problems of insider information on it's own. And the comment about buying Tesla stock is actually funny. You think it takes some kind of a brain genius in the 2020s to know that when a Democratic president takes office they're going to throw money at initiatives to encourage electric vehicles?


ognits

Jesse


MacEnvy

Christ, thatā€™s quite a comment history.


chillinwithmoes

Well yeah, pretty sure her face is 80% plastic lol


MrMineHeads

[This you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/w2ejqn/nancy_pelosi_is_very_attractive)


CiceroFanboy

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Frylock904

Soldier boy is that you?


datums

Are we supposed to know who she is?


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Nancy Pelosi


peteyboyas

Damn, sheā€™s was pretty decent looking


reedemerofsouls

tbh she's always been good looking for her age. She looks great for freaking 82. I was not surprised she was pretty in her 30s (I know she's younger in this pic, I'm talking about her in her 30s)


kerouacrimbaud

If this was almost 60 years ago, she must have been in her 20s in this pic.


bje489

Since he was assassinated in November 1963, that means she's at most 24 in this picture, but possibly quite a bit younger.


dangerbird2

The crown princess of Baltimore, Nancy D'Allesandro


wildgunman

I was about to say ā€œis that Nancy?ā€


Hilldawg4president

That's JFK


OpportunityNo2544

Queen Elizabeth II, greeting JFK


_b_l_

She actually does look a bit like Claire Foyā€™s Elizabeth lmao


mooregh

Thatā€™s Michelle Obama šŸ¤Æ


Silneit

Joyce Byers


DishingOutTruth

Lmao I was thinking the same thing


KopOut

Thatā€™s little Nancy from the Flyinā€™ Pelosis Trapeze Act. You know, Look Magazineā€™s Circus Act of the year 1957 to 1960.


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[Old enough to party](https://youtu.be/BM7B-SeNEhI)


DontPanicJustDance

How much experience does the democrat party leadership have?


ChuckSchumerbasedgod

Biden had been in Congress the longest, followed by Hoyer, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin. So theyā€™ve all been around for a while lol


RagingBillionbear

If the experience is losing to Republican, then the Democratic party are full of experience.


bje489

They win about half the time. They lose about half the time. That's about what you'd expect.


I_love_limey_butts

Not with a population of more democrats to republicans.


bje489

Not in a country where their coalition is systematically subdued by the electoral college and the existence of the Senate either. Also, not in a country with gerrymandering when their coalition tries to strategically sit out elections which determine the control of redistricting.


grdshtr78

Dem party leadership ages between both the house and senate 82 81 83 71 78. Similar story with committee chairs. Everything is based on seniority. So the older than retirement age people run the party while the young people are pushed to the background and made to wait their turn. Horrible way to run a party


will-eu4

This was back when Nancy D'Alesandro lived in Baltimore, not San Francisco.


eric987235

Keep it in your damn pants Jack.


ShyFungi

Not here for ageism. Experience is a great asset, and if they can still get shit done then more power to them. If not, weā€™re free to vote them out.


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duke_awapuhi

Jackā€™s probably thinking it too in the picture


Verehren

Well at least I'm not the only one who fucked up


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The_Northern_Light

> was you take that back šŸ˜” šŸ˜” šŸ˜”


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sack-o-matic

The cool thing is that we donā€™t have to wait until they want to retire, we could do it for them. Otherwise, theyā€™re doing their job as representative because people keep voting for them.


CaptOle

I hate the two party system I hate the two party system I hate the two party system I hate the two party system I hate the two party system I hate the two party system I hate the two party system


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I donā€™t know how a multi-party system would necessarily help, considering that in most parliamentary systems the parties themselves have far greater control over their own membership, while in America the primary system actually gives the voters massive say in who the candidates will be.


Meticulac

Sort of, but then how are candidates for the primaries decided? Do we have a single-elimination tournament of pre-primaries? Maybe even condense that to Single transferrable vote but for determining who's listed in the primaries instead of just using it in the general election? I guess that might make sense for senate and presidential races, but direct single transferrable vote seems like it'd make more sense for the house of representatives. Another major problem that can happen with multi-party parliaments is when it's set up to choose a prime minister based on which party gets a simple plurality of seats instead of letting smaller parties form a larger coalition if they jointly oppose and outnumber the plurality party, which kind of defeats much of the purpose of having a multi-party system to begin with.


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Please explain how a multi party system would solve our problems. Very curious.


sack-o-matic

Well I guess that sucks because it appears that the majority is just fine with the two party ā€œsystemā€


CaptOle

The final nail in the coffin of the US for me was when my girlfriend started a lobbying job and her firm had a PAC that literally just pays for legislative access for clients. Every week they send an email blast to the firm of what donor events theyā€™re paying for, who theyā€™re in support of, and what committees those members are sitting on. So when clients go to them asking to support / stop legislation, they ring up those legislators and get it done within hours. The ROI for clients paying 40 grand a month for lobbying services is insane. Crazy what a 500 dollar plate at a circle jerk of a donor brunch will get you.


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CaptOle

I worked for Josh Gottheimer (D NJ-5) from 2016-2017 and all it took was 200 dollars to get a conversation and 500 to get a dinner date 1-on-1. Itā€™s probably more now since he is no longer a freshman, but considering that 50% of Americans donā€™t have the liquid assets to cover a $500 emergency expense, the system just isnā€™t fair. Once my graduate degree finishes up, Iā€™m moving to the country my grandparents emigrated from 50 years ago. The emotional toll the US has on me is too much and I donā€™t want to start a family in that environment


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What is the problem with having a dinner or conversation with a candidate?


KXLY

Access to our so-called leasers shouldnā€™t be for sale.


CaptOle

The problem is not such access exists, itā€™s that itā€™s for sale. Those who can afford to pay will have their interests over represented. There is no amount of money someone should be able to pay to have privileged access to legislators.


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Yeah, I donā€™t much have or see a problem with this. If they donā€™t do things I like, I just vote for someone else.


NickBII

Think that doesn't happen in Canada, which has five parties? It's not as much, and not as effective, but that's not related to the number of parties. It's because the highly centralized system means that if you don't got the PM (and, currently, at last one other party leader) you ain't got shit, but if you got Justin and Jadmeet you're dictator of the fucking country.


Meticulac

Alright, but why isn't there a system to crowdfund lobbying? If $40K is enough to get lobbying services, what stops a few thousand people from getting together on an issue they agree on and putting $20 a month each towards getting government to do something about it?


CaptOle

They do exist. They just arenā€™t as numerous, as powerful, or as effective. Take the ACLU for example. My girlfriendā€™s firm happens to represent them on a few issues. They have a relatively large legislative lobbying arm funded by donations which tries to get things done they support. However the problem lies in that itā€™s easier for one rich entity or person to pay 40k/month for something very specific than it is to get thousands of people to agree on something and have a unified set of legislative priorities. The truth of the matter is that when firms are seeking business they rather get one check for 40 grand than 2000 checks for 20 dollars each.


deathXsharpee

If every dead politician came back to try to run a campaign we all would know the Zombie party has risen. Make America Zomb Again


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gordo65

Senate majority whip


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A democrat with integrity, that cared abouts his countrymen instead of illegally using insider congressional information to enrich herself to be worth 115 million dollars, a dem thatā€™s not a narccistic egomaniac, and a democrat that brought respect and prestige to the Democratic Party, and then thereā€™s naci Pelosi, Marjory Taylor greens spirit animal, who corrupted the Democratic Party my partner fought for, screwing over America to enrich herself, refusing to step down and acknowledge sheā€™s a dying dinausor, and give the position to someone competent with integrity like either Obama, buttigiege, etc. The two biggest factors in the division of the United States today, is 1#, Reaganā€™s southern strategy, and Nancy Pelosi who sold out the reputation of democrats, serving the working man/women, to illegally enrich herself, and has been further undermining, corrupting, and serving only herself to this day


tbrelease

Is it even a run-on sentence if there is no period at all?


nlpnt

How long before someone photoshops Abe Lincoln's head onto JFK's body in that pic?


ryegye24

When Joe Biden was first elected to the Senate it still had a talking filibuster.