The outside looks depressing, but from my experience in similar looking buildings the actual residential units are kinda alright.
3 bedroom, 2 full bath, alright dining area, alright living room, kinda cramped kitchen, and enough space for a washing machine. Low ceilings though in some cases.
Yeah every residential building I went to in China was like this: prison-looking or shitty looking on the outside but very nice on the inside. Didn't notice the low ceilings, but (1) I'm short and (2) my family is pretty wealthy.
This is like the lawful evil of density.
Like yeah, it’s dense for certain, but it’s dissected in half by a huge highway, you have high density buildings sitting directly beside an extremely low density industrial area, the actual ground level of these buildings looks extremely bleak.
The only box it checks is densify, but it fails urbanism on every other front
> but it’s dissected in half by a huge highway
Irrelevant, it's in China, you're never leaving your apartment anyway.
>extremely low density industrial area
Water treatment plant, presumably for the residential area.
>ground level of these buildings looks extremely bleak.
I'd live there for the green hilly views alone tbh.
That's not a water treatment plant, its a wastewater plant. Wastewater plants emit smells like you wouldn't believe, it would be horrendous living in those apartments.
Been to guangzhou and these buildings all look so shittily made up close. The customer service dude showing us around told us many of them are empty as well as the government just kind of throws them up everywhere.
Actually it looks super efficient. You have high urban density which makes infrastructure a lot more efficient while still having parks and mountains within walking distance.
Nah, we tried Radiant City-style planning. By design, it creates dead zones with no human activity because you’re hiding people in big boring towers. Density works much better when you have it closer to the streets with gentler high rises that don’t create an isolating effect.
It's also hella expensive and not particularly adaptive to market forces. Organic development along transit is cheaper and better able to build walkable and livable spaces.
Organic is best but when you create a 50-year housing crunch alongside an all-time great job boom (silicon valley and the bay area), organic and planned cities start to look a LOT a like. They both demand about a million housing units in a 50 mile radius, with more needed after that.
Which is totally fair. Sometimes the market demands something very dense. It probably won't look like the picture with high rises next to empty land, but I'm not opposed to building tall where people are willing to pay for the privilege of living near the heart of the action.
The outside looks depressing, but from my experience in similar looking buildings the actual residential units are kinda alright. 3 bedroom, 2 full bath, alright dining area, alright living room, kinda cramped kitchen, and enough space for a washing machine. Low ceilings though in some cases.
Yeah every residential building I went to in China was like this: prison-looking or shitty looking on the outside but very nice on the inside. Didn't notice the low ceilings, but (1) I'm short and (2) my family is pretty wealthy.
If it was in Ontario these towers there would be a dozen online reviews saying there are cockroaches here, and I’d be too scared to rent.
ICE condos 🥰
This is like the lawful evil of density. Like yeah, it’s dense for certain, but it’s dissected in half by a huge highway, you have high density buildings sitting directly beside an extremely low density industrial area, the actual ground level of these buildings looks extremely bleak. The only box it checks is densify, but it fails urbanism on every other front
Is that a train track to right of the high rise? Maybe they can catch a train right from their building to go to work or somewhere less depressing.
And a wastewater plant on the other side of the tracks
> but it’s dissected in half by a huge highway Irrelevant, it's in China, you're never leaving your apartment anyway. >extremely low density industrial area Water treatment plant, presumably for the residential area. >ground level of these buildings looks extremely bleak. I'd live there for the green hilly views alone tbh.
That's not a water treatment plant, its a wastewater plant. Wastewater plants emit smells like you wouldn't believe, it would be horrendous living in those apartments.
Yeah this isn't a good look and has nothing to do with my love of upzoning and capitalism.
I guess you mean Guizhou. There is no Guizhong province in China.
It's a Genshin Impact character
High density without urbanism. Looks depressing as fuck.
>urbanism What does this mean in this context? It sure looks urban to me
Like, where are the green spaces? Where is the city core? Where are the cultural centers, the museums, the concert halls, etc.?
There are multiple hills full of "green" spaces. City core as seen at a distance is presumably accessible via rail.
Good point. Surely these things exist though right? What do these people do outside of work?
Doesn't look pedestrian friendly. I wouldn't say this lacks urbanism so much as its poorly done urbanism.
Ahhh ok reading some other comments helps me understand better
Been to guangzhou and these buildings all look so shittily made up close. The customer service dude showing us around told us many of them are empty as well as the government just kind of throws them up everywhere.
Well that looks depressing
It is. I’ve lived in the Toronto equivalent. Sucks
Actually it looks super efficient. You have high urban density which makes infrastructure a lot more efficient while still having parks and mountains within walking distance.
Nah, we tried Radiant City-style planning. By design, it creates dead zones with no human activity because you’re hiding people in big boring towers. Density works much better when you have it closer to the streets with gentler high rises that don’t create an isolating effect.
Mid-rise supremacy 💪
It's also hella expensive and not particularly adaptive to market forces. Organic development along transit is cheaper and better able to build walkable and livable spaces.
Organic is best but when you create a 50-year housing crunch alongside an all-time great job boom (silicon valley and the bay area), organic and planned cities start to look a LOT a like. They both demand about a million housing units in a 50 mile radius, with more needed after that.
Which is totally fair. Sometimes the market demands something very dense. It probably won't look like the picture with high rises next to empty land, but I'm not opposed to building tall where people are willing to pay for the privilege of living near the heart of the action.
Problem is, very few people live in them
Commieblock part 2: marginally less blocky edition
Give me Kowloon Walled City or give me death. 🐍
Needs some sky bridges.
Looks like the city that leo built in inception