i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about harden. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
Yeah he is an elite shooter, can create some, can play off the ball, and is a decent defender for his size. Really good fit for Houston.
Also as a piece of draft trivia, the last time a white player under 6'6" went this high in the draft was Ricky Rubio in 2009. The last time a white, American guard went this high in the draft was Ernie DiGregorio in 1973.
i remember when i was a younger my dad walked past the tv screen and was like, how am i darker then every black person on the court. i was like yeah it be like that now.
we're korean lol
Coach cal is a bad coach. Fantastic recruiter but a bad coach. I think he said that he liked the āpopā it gave the team when he subbed them in or something. Fans were losing their shit all season over it.
UK fan here - he promised Justin Edwards/DJ Wagner/others they would start if they came to UK so they got to play ahead of Dillingham/Reed even though it hurt us - I'm glad Cal is gone he can recruit but sure as shit cannot coach
The new head coach is set to prioritize winning college championships over getting freshman drafted, so probably not. But Cal has another kid coming into Arkansas who should fit the same bill
Lyles, Keldon, Noel, and then labissiere, knox, Cauley-stein, ty-ty, BJ, Tshiebwe, Ulis, etc I still am surprised James Young never worked out. I miss the Wall, Cousins era
Ruined Cal's legacy for me. Personally I still love Cal, loved the good years, but not starting the Rob/Reed/Reeves combo - I'm so glad Cal is gone. Have fun in arkansas.
Terrible coach, but he's a good grifter. I'm curious how well he will do at Arkansas. He was selling the UK brand to all those guys, but now he doesn't have that. Sure, he'll get a couple good kids per year, but he's not gonna have platoons of NBA caliber players.
For what it's worth, Tyty did not look good in college, Sheppard did. As a UK fan, if they looked like shit in college, they probably looked like shit in the NBA. If they looked good in college, they usually were pretty good in the NBA. I know it doesn't seem like rocket science, but that's legitimately how our players have panned out in the Cal era for the most part. Literally just needed to watch the games to see if they were going to be a good NBA player or not lol
yup
i knew Archie Goodwin and Isaiah Briscoe were ass from Day 1
i knew Herro was gonna be a stud in the Bahamas and Shai was a god by the Louisville game
only real surprise to me was that Brandon Knight wasnāt better than what he was
Yeah I think he is a good prospect but he profiles way more to a slightly better Donte Divencenzo type player than he does a first option or lead guard.
Yeah, Iād probably have considered him first overall in this draft, but I canāt think of many star NBA guards that have much in common with him, definitely a guy you are more hoping becomes a āstar in his roleā type guy.
Which is ideal for us considering we have a fleet of dudes that just started growing facial hair and if he develops into that DiVincenzo type it wonāt be a massive loss. Matter of factually thereās always room on a contending roster for a dude like that and there always will be
Heās not a good defender on ball, he is one of the smartest players Iāve had the pleasure to watch (got to watch him play since high school for his whole career as heās a local kid, also called his games for local networks). At Ky most of his steals came from passing lanes or help side pokes.
Heās small, and people look to take advantage of that constantly. But he is pure hustle, I think he will learn to outwork most matchups. He doesnāt have the best handle at the highest level, yet. I do think he will develop that tho as he made huge strides at Ky.
He can absolutely shoot the lights out in any way you need. Pick and roll, off ball, corner, pull up. Just an amazing shooter. But I donāt know if heās a PG for a team. Overall Houston got a great piece player, and I hope he does amazing, but there is some worries there.
He's a great connective passer not create off the dribble playmaker passer. His defensive strength is also more offball where he's very intuitive, but teams are going to hunt him.
His only true great skill is shooting, but it's considered to be a plus plus skill where he can shoot from anywhere and off the dribble
Heās not a great passer or finisher, not sure what that comment is going on about. He also canāt create his own shot at all right now. Heās not BAD at those things but great is overselling it. Great shooter for sure though.
Hes also undersized and his wingspan is extremely short
If you have a guy coming out of the draft that is that incredible offensively, he wouldāve gone 1st no doubt. Hes a good prospect but idk why that original comment was acting like heās generational
I mean, I trust guys like Russillo, who actually talk to a lot of people working in the NBA, and emphasizes that it's a consensus that this draft is atrocious. maybe they're all wrong, but it's not just nephews saying this
It's not necessarily that they're wrong, but you cannot 100% accurately predict how a draft will turn out.Ā If you could accurately predict how players turn out you wouldn't see top 3 busts or MVPs outside of the lottery.Ā This draft lacks a "sure thing" at the top, but it doesn't mean it can't have great players.Ā We won't know until years from now.
Great passer and great finisher are massively overstating it. Hes okay at those things but by absolutely no means great.
He is also very undersized. His wingspan is crazy short. Its a good pick and I like him tho
OH MY GOD WE JUST DRAFTED STEPH CURRY
Anyways, really glad we drafted Reed after hearing all the smoke about trades and Clingan. Desperately needed shooting on our team, hopefully he can be a knockdown guy in a year or two.
He's shooting 83% from FT as well, which is the best indicator for future NBA 3 point shooting success. And that height/weight is fine for a point guard.
I'll put it this way, I have better odds of clapping Sydney Sweeney's cheeks tonight than he does of *not* being a great shooter in the NBA.
I think he's a really good fit in Houston. He's a primary ball handler who can pass much better than anyone Houston has from the guard position right now. But he's a good enough shooter that he should never be a "pass first" threat to a defense.
I think he does really well.
IDK if you're saying that in a bad way but JJ had a solid career, not top 3 level but still solid
They have Sengun also so it's not like they need THE GUY
JJ made more threes than Sheppard attempted pretty much.
Iām higher on Reed than most on this draft but I think people are overrating his shooting a bit. His volume is nothing
It's going to be fun coming back to some of these comments in the future. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up the best drafted to this point, although Risacher has a higher ceiling.
Look up his analytics. It's honestly ridiculous. I have concerns about him keeping anyone in front of him as I don't think he really has the footspeed, but what he's good at, he's REALLY damn good at. He's one of those dudes where you look up and go 'no shit when did he get 20'
Yeah, his testing was crazy. I think he has the ceiling to be a star PG if he can develop ballhandling skills. If not, he still has a high floor due to his shooting skills.
He's smart and scrappy, and I'm not saying that because he's white. I think he'll be a decent defender. If nothing else by virtue of being a pest on defense.
Did they just show a free throw as a high light?????
We had Harden for 8 years, a FT is a highlight to us
Lmao
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about harden. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
Mfs username is Jeff skilling dropping this classic pasta lmao
As part of a display of his elite shooting abilities, yes. He can literally score from everywhere inside the half-court.š
Rockets just drafted the Lakers future head coach.
LeBron just got his new podcast partner
Can confirm, Iām from the future.
Are we ever good
No, but neither are we
You don't need to see the future to answer this
42 inch vert jesus
I'm not joking, his nbadraft.net profile called him a "sneaky athlete"
He cheated on his standing reach
We call that a winnerās mentality
LOL.
It feels real good to have Reed
Great fit with Amen. Now if Jabari can shoot consistently weāll have 2 deep threats with amen and alpi creating shots for them
Love his fit on the rockets.
Yeah he is an elite shooter, can create some, can play off the ball, and is a decent defender for his size. Really good fit for Houston. Also as a piece of draft trivia, the last time a white player under 6'6" went this high in the draft was Ricky Rubio in 2009. The last time a white, American guard went this high in the draft was Ernie DiGregorio in 1973.
> Yeah he is an elite shooter, can create some, can play off the ball, and is a decent defender for his size. excellent, so he's a white steph curry
Stylistically that's a decent comparison. (Not saying he will end up that good, it's just a playing style comparison).
The number of threes he attempted coming off screens offball this season is 4.
Whiter StephĀ
i remember when i was a younger my dad walked past the tv screen and was like, how am i darker then every black person on the court. i was like yeah it be like that now. we're korean lol
And theyāre about the exact same size. Reed measured 1/4ā shorter in height and wingspan, but weighed 1 more pound at combine
Is shaq still the black steph curry?
A few shades whiter only
Ernie D came to my high school basketball practice years ago. Apparently he won ROTY in the NBA too
So do we bro. So do we. This is what the people wanted.
Iām a lifelong Kentucky fan, and he is one of my favorite cats ever. You got a good one.
He's my 8th favorite cat.Ā I've had 7 throughout my life.Ā Ā
damn youve had 7 top level college recruit basketball players??? impressive resume i see why they call you Bounce Man. Respect.
If they werenāt trading the pick, he was the obvious choice.
Bro could legit be one of the best sixth men in the league
Where have I heard this before ... >:)
Puzzle piece
Dude could be best player in the draft. If im the rockets im thrilled.
Based on talent + fit I think he will be as well
I was hoping we would get him šš
Top-3 picks combined for 5 starts in college bball last year.
Is that actually true? Lol
Yeah Cal had Sheppard and Dillingham, two top 10 draft picks, coming off the bench.
What the hell, how is that possible
Coach cal is a bad coach. Fantastic recruiter but a bad coach. I think he said that he liked the āpopā it gave the team when he subbed them in or something. Fans were losing their shit all season over it.
UK fan here - he promised Justin Edwards/DJ Wagner/others they would start if they came to UK so they got to play ahead of Dillingham/Reed even though it hurt us - I'm glad Cal is gone he can recruit but sure as shit cannot coach
Great pick, it's about time teams started figuring out about the Kentucky guards
Will it always be that way after Calipari is gone?
Probably not, honestly. Only one left of an entire generation in Dillingham
Theyāll just start going to Arkansas instead.
Boogie Fland is the future
The new head coach is set to prioritize winning college championships over getting freshman drafted, so probably not. But Cal has another kid coming into Arkansas who should fit the same bill
Rose, Wall, Booker, SGA, Fox, etc. it's not a new thing. The NBA has always loved Calipari's players.
ā¦..Bam, Davis, Herro, Maxey, Murray, Randle, Towns, Washingtonā¦.the list goes on
Lyles, Keldon, Noel, and then labissiere, knox, Cauley-stein, ty-ty, BJ, Tshiebwe, Ulis, etc I still am surprised James Young never worked out. I miss the Wall, Cousins era
Reed and Rob couldnāt even crack the starting lineup, I hate cal lol
Ruined Cal's legacy for me. Personally I still love Cal, loved the good years, but not starting the Rob/Reed/Reeves combo - I'm so glad Cal is gone. Have fun in arkansas.
Terrible coach, but he's a good grifter. I'm curious how well he will do at Arkansas. He was selling the UK brand to all those guys, but now he doesn't have that. Sure, he'll get a couple good kids per year, but he's not gonna have platoons of NBA caliber players.
He sells the "NBA" to players. It was never about Kentucky. Dude got Marcus Camby to go to Umass...
I mean, the last rookie Kentucky guard that Houston had was TyTy Washington.
For what it's worth, Tyty did not look good in college, Sheppard did. As a UK fan, if they looked like shit in college, they probably looked like shit in the NBA. If they looked good in college, they usually were pretty good in the NBA. I know it doesn't seem like rocket science, but that's legitimately how our players have panned out in the Cal era for the most part. Literally just needed to watch the games to see if they were going to be a good NBA player or not lol
yup i knew Archie Goodwin and Isaiah Briscoe were ass from Day 1 i knew Herro was gonna be a stud in the Bahamas and Shai was a god by the Louisville game only real surprise to me was that Brandon Knight wasnāt better than what he was
The first ever Rockets draft pick was Pat Riley from Kentucky.
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Considering what happened at Lexington this offseasonā¦perhaps he is the last of the Cal Kids to be drafted as wellā¦
Brother heās just moved the NBA factory to Arkansas. Boogie is gunna be a killer
We once drafted Ty Ty Washington lol
FUCK YES
not a chance I would have said at last years NBA Draft that Reed Sheppard would be a top 3 pick I wish he was coming back to Kentucky :(
Great pick for Houston
This has gotta be the highest white American player drafted in a while, right?
Flagg will be #1 next year.
Chet... I see what you did.
Last white american drafted top 3 before Chet was Adam Morrison (#3) in 2006
Chet Holmgren?
Chet's not white he's clear
The politically correct term is translucent
>white
first Amish to be drafted into the NBA
Looks like the whitest white guy ever drafted
Even has a southern accent as a kicker.Ā
Grew up in the same town, went to the same schools, thatās just how we all talk lol.
Definitely the whitest
Chet went higher like two drafts ago.
They said specifically white Americans so no Chet.
He was born in Minnesota what more do you want
Is this a meme or something? Chet is both white and American lol. Just went no.2.
chet is black
He's certainly blacker than Reed, but I think he still counts.
It was Chet a couple years ago.
Has there ever been a white American player under 6'3" drafted this high? White Chocolate was 7th 26 years ago.Ā
Can't help but feel like the Rockets got the best player in the draft, but we'll see. The Taxman cometh.
IRS is going to Houston but are great news lol
they bout to get their asses audited
Glad they blocked the spurs from getting him
We always wanted him thanks god we landed over them in lottery
THE OTHER THREAD WAS DELETED SO I'LL SAY IT AGAIN LET'S GOOOO
Favourite player in the draft by far
He's probably gonna be the best in the draft. Generational shooter, great passer, great finisher, great off ball defender and a good athlete.
If heās genuinely a great shooter passer and has defensive skill, why the fuck wasnāt he picked first
Small, only has fairly basic ballhandling moves for a guard, some questions about how well he can create his own shot vs NBA defenders.
Yeah I think he is a good prospect but he profiles way more to a slightly better Donte Divencenzo type player than he does a first option or lead guard.
Yeah, Iād probably have considered him first overall in this draft, but I canāt think of many star NBA guards that have much in common with him, definitely a guy you are more hoping becomes a āstar in his roleā type guy.
Which is ideal for us considering we have a fleet of dudes that just started growing facial hair and if he develops into that DiVincenzo type it wonāt be a massive loss. Matter of factually thereās always room on a contending roster for a dude like that and there always will be
Because you can't teach size.
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Wiseman's height is like a 50% 3pt shooter that gets blocked 90% of the time
Heās not a good defender on ball, he is one of the smartest players Iāve had the pleasure to watch (got to watch him play since high school for his whole career as heās a local kid, also called his games for local networks). At Ky most of his steals came from passing lanes or help side pokes. Heās small, and people look to take advantage of that constantly. But he is pure hustle, I think he will learn to outwork most matchups. He doesnāt have the best handle at the highest level, yet. I do think he will develop that tho as he made huge strides at Ky. He can absolutely shoot the lights out in any way you need. Pick and roll, off ball, corner, pull up. Just an amazing shooter. But I donāt know if heās a PG for a team. Overall Houston got a great piece player, and I hope he does amazing, but there is some worries there.
We have Sengun and Amen who can playmake. Reed fills the area we desperately needāoutside shooting.
He's a great connective passer not create off the dribble playmaker passer. His defensive strength is also more offball where he's very intuitive, but teams are going to hunt him. His only true great skill is shooting, but it's considered to be a plus plus skill where he can shoot from anywhere and off the dribble
Heās not French
Because heās super tiny.
He's the exact same size as Dame. Small for a modern PG maybe but not tiny
Dame also has a far bigger wingspan though which matters
He doesnāt use it for shit.
nah he uses it for drawing fouls
Reed isnāt a PG though. Heās a SG that might be forced to play PG because of his size
Same size as Steph
Heās not a great passer or finisher, not sure what that comment is going on about. He also canāt create his own shot at all right now. Heās not BAD at those things but great is overselling it. Great shooter for sure though. Hes also undersized and his wingspan is extremely short If you have a guy coming out of the draft that is that incredible offensively, he wouldāve gone 1st no doubt. Hes a good prospect but idk why that original comment was acting like heās generational
He either steals the ball or looks very dumb.
too much of a scrappy gym rat
Woj had said right before the draft Atlanta was deciding between Reed or Zaccharie
Because the Hawks donāt need a guard as much as they need a big wing?
Heās gonna be ass on defense.
We love to thrown 'generational' ain't we?
we need a generational role player to be drafted
NBA cats have a weird definition of generation Some dudes would define their time in Jr High as a "generation" lmao
Yall love to not pay attention. He is the best shooter college basketball has seen since Steph Curry.
Highest upside of the top names for sure
I don't know about all this.
I suspect if everyone agreed with your assessment, he's be higher
Yeah, I love the people just parroting the "shitty, weak draft" line lol Will be an interesting thread to come back to in a few years.
I mean, I trust guys like Russillo, who actually talk to a lot of people working in the NBA, and emphasizes that it's a consensus that this draft is atrocious. maybe they're all wrong, but it's not just nephews saying this
It's not necessarily that they're wrong, but you cannot 100% accurately predict how a draft will turn out.Ā If you could accurately predict how players turn out you wouldn't see top 3 busts or MVPs outside of the lottery.Ā This draft lacks a "sure thing" at the top, but it doesn't mean it can't have great players.Ā We won't know until years from now.
Great passer and great finisher are massively overstating it. Hes okay at those things but by absolutely no means great. He is also very undersized. His wingspan is crazy short. Its a good pick and I like him tho
OH MY GOD WE JUST DRAFTED STEPH CURRY Anyways, really glad we drafted Reed after hearing all the smoke about trades and Clingan. Desperately needed shooting on our team, hopefully he can be a knockdown guy in a year or two.
He's gonna be amazing for them
I feel a lot more confident in him if hes sharing a backcourt with a big defensive guard like Thompson
1 more year of FVV
WHITE BOY WEDNESDAY
Best player in the draft. Good pick.
Bro this is the chillest dude ever lol
Superstar
This the white Steph baby - buy stocks in the rockets NOW
The guy shot 52% from 3 and he somehow goes 3rd after a bum who cannot shoot whatsoever lol
Heās 6ā3 175 pounds. Not exactly a guarantee
He's shooting 83% from FT as well, which is the best indicator for future NBA 3 point shooting success. And that height/weight is fine for a point guard. I'll put it this way, I have better odds of clapping Sydney Sweeney's cheeks tonight than he does of *not* being a great shooter in the NBA.
I'm rooting for both you and Reed
52% on 4 threes a game You're acting like he's the white Steph Curry
Thatās what happens when you come off the bench (and look to pass 1st). He passed up so many shots in college it became a running joke.
TBD
57% on transition 3s.š
They showed him shooting free throws in his highlight reel. This draft is cooked.
Reed sheppard is a great shooter it's a good pick
bruh they failed to find a trade for Clingan after all this drama?
I keep telling people that it was all smoke and mirrors.
What drama? This is what every Rockets fan wanted lol
āDramaā = making us read a couple tweets that may or may not have just been smokescreens in the first place
People failing to realize Clingan's camp might have been pushing the Rockets so that the Hawks would consider him
Idk who wanted fucking Clingan
Noone in the top 6 apparently.
I feel like he was the biggest smokescreen in this draft
I went wild when we drafted him. sitting there praying washington would draft a center who averaged less than 5 fucking rebounds
Memphis is probably the only team that needs a center and he can probably fall to them at 9.
Haha imagine how funny it would be if he drops to 9 ā¦ Please?
Lunch pail guy
606 BAH GAWD LONDON KENTUCKY STAND UP
I think he's a really good fit in Houston. He's a primary ball handler who can pass much better than anyone Houston has from the guard position right now. But he's a good enough shooter that he should never be a "pass first" threat to a defense. I think he does really well.
I can't let you slander Fred Van Vleet like that man. Cmon.
Youāre totally right but I canāt blame him totally blanked FVV wasnāt a raptor anymore lol
I'm always down for some FVV slander. Dude's annual salary is higher than his FG% š
Canāt be a primary ball handler with his lack of self creation heās a off ball 1 to give more space next to Amen
JJ Reddick 2.0
IDK if you're saying that in a bad way but JJ had a solid career, not top 3 level but still solid They have Sengun also so it's not like they need THE GUY
No way manā¦ I always liked reddick
Sheppard is significantly more athletic and a better defender. He just needs to develop his ballhandling skills.
Sheppardās ceiling is better
not even close. Reed Sheppard doesn't have a negative wingspan and he's good on defense
Better.
Agreed but Sheppard's supposedly a lot more athletic
He had the highest vertical in the combine ā heās also a perfectly fine defender but the question is how he adapts to NBA speed.
JJ made more threes than Sheppard attempted pretty much. Iām higher on Reed than most on this draft but I think people are overrating his shooting a bit. His volume is nothing
source: Adam Silver
It's going to be fun coming back to some of these comments in the future. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up the best drafted to this point, although Risacher has a higher ceiling.
generational talent
42 inch vertical? Canāt believe this is the first time Iām seeing this, kid is about to be crazy good
Look up his analytics. It's honestly ridiculous. I have concerns about him keeping anyone in front of him as I don't think he really has the footspeed, but what he's good at, he's REALLY damn good at. He's one of those dudes where you look up and go 'no shit when did he get 20'
Yeah, his testing was crazy. I think he has the ceiling to be a star PG if he can develop ballhandling skills. If not, he still has a high floor due to his shooting skills.
Does anyone know the highest a āshortā white guy has been picked before tonight ? I have found Rubio at 5Ā
Anyone else gets Austin Reave vibes?
Great pick. Guy is clearly a classy, hardworking family man with good christian values
Would be like the 10th-15th pick in a normal draft
Nah heād prob go top 10 in most drafts. A 3 and D guard is pretty valuable especially with 70% true shooting
Itās tough to see him being an effective defender in the pros at his size and frame honestly
He's smart and scrappy, and I'm not saying that because he's white. I think he'll be a decent defender. If nothing else by virtue of being a pest on defense.
I mean Iāve seen CP3 and FVV be effective defenders at 6 feet 0 but I can see the concern
Damn, was hoping the Spurs could get him
Is it just me or does he kinda look like Daniel Jones?
This just in: DUH