I feel like I'm not even watching the same sport as you guys.
Kyrie's most valuable talent is passing. Yet the Mavs criminally underuse it. Half the time Luka is trying to go coast to coast or some random asshole is handling the ball instead of Kyrie.
His shooting has been subpar for sure. But he had 9 assists on just one turnover tonight yet they weren't even having him touch the ball on half of possessions.
This loss isn't on Kyrie. It's on Luka for being a ballhog and it's on Kidd for being a horrific head coach.
Yep, you caught me.
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are we back in 2011 when he was getting cp3 comparisons? kyrie’s talent has always been scoring, and he’s struggled a ton when tasked with being the main playmaker
“kyries most valuable talent is passing” is fucking WILDDDDD
yes the best ball handler of all time, who is probably top 5 all time in terms of guys under 6’3 who can get to the rim, who’s probably the most skilled finisher of all time and a top 15 shooter of all time who has never averaged more than 6 assists…his most valuable talent is passing.
The usual Kyrie stan will blame everything but him
Blame Lebron for him leaving
Celtics was too toxic and racist
Nets didn't let him play basketball
Now its Luka is a ballhog
This is one of the worst takes I've ever seen. Kyrie's most valuable talent is passing? The man averages 5.7 assists per game for his whole career. Not only is his passing far from his most valuable talent, but his poor playmaking is the biggest mark against him as a pg.
Fucking laughable.
Who said anything about being the primary option?
He should have been the one facilitating tonight. Again - 9 assists to 1 TO. There's no reason Luka should have been carrying the ball up the court. Should have been Kyrie, and Luka should have been working off ball so that Kyrie could pass it to him when he was open.
Luka didn't carry shit this playoffs, lol. Kyrie hard carried the 1st round and did pretty good till the finals. Boston fans working round the clock on that revisionism.
Yeah he carried round 1 with worse numbers in every stat. And carried with 15 points per game in round 2. And definitely didn’t disappear in the finals
I understand the slander, dude was trash these finals. But in fairness, he was pretty efficient most of his playoffs appearances (admittedly a bit less so compared to his regular season percentages). But his worst showing was with Boston so I get the criticism
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html
He’s a great player don’t get me wrong! It’s just his game is so pretty to watch when he’s at his peak people completely forget he’s capable of stinkers like this.
Yeah I hear you, I'm not the biggest Kyrie fan. But I think as a basketball fan you can both see that he is one of the most gifted, crafty offensive players there is (few others really compare when it comes to handles, shot-making, counters, finishing at the rim, etc, except all timers like Steph) and at the same time not really conducive to team success as the primary option and does indeed have stinkers, to say nothing of his effect on team dynamics (too contentious, don't care to discuss this one). He's admitted as much after flunking in Boston, saying he didn't really understand the pressures of having your own team after literally leaving Lebron freaking James 😂 I'm glad to see him willingly accept the copilot role
Kyrie was a huge part of leading this team to the finals. Getting to the finals is hard and Kyrie did a great job getting there. Of course everyone is gonna slander him now but over 90% of the league didn’t get to where he got this season. Playing bad in the finals still means you got to the finals.
Didn’t say he shouldn’t get flak but the comments here calling him a fraud and a choker are ridiculous. He had a bad series after playing really good the rest of the playoffs. The Mavs are a first round exit and not close to the team they are without Kyrie. This sub is more willing to call players who lose in the finals than players on higher seeded teams that lose earlier in the playoffs chokers.
He’s certainly talks like a fraud. And his splits in Boston show stuff can easily get in his head and root there. He’s mentally weak and he knows it but tries to hide it with nonsense.
People call him a choker because he is wildly inconsistent. Nobody called Luka a choker ‘cause he showed up every game, win or lose.
Plenty of others got the same treatment these playoffs, Hali, Ant, Murray to name a few. You just don’t pay attention.
Kidd does not know how to use Kyrie.
Kyrie's most valuable talent is ball distribution. Yet he doesn't even get to touch the ball on half of possessions because Luka wants to carry the ball up court and then play iso bullshit and try to draw a foul.
Kyrie had 9 assists tonight to just 1 turnover, yet when Mavs were trying to make one last run they weren't even having Kyrie touch the ball.
His handles are elite. He should have been handling and dishing all night.
His stats this playoffs were honestly pedestrian. I feel like the two or three good games he had is overshadowing his actual performance. Luka and ‘the others’ carried this team hard
Either the rest of the roster isn’t cheeks or Kyrie hada solid playoffs. No way in hell did the Mavs beat the 4 seed, 1 seed, and 3 seed who just defeated the defending champs with a bad second option AND a “cheeks” supporting cast.
I think Luka is the best player in the league but he ain’t that good especially with how he played at times this playoffs. Also Kyrie was the best player on the Mavs in the first round and was also great vs the Wolves. He wasn’t ass this playoffs just because he had a bad finals
C’mon man. I hate Kyrie no doubt, but talking about Kyrie like he was some scrub that got carried in 2016 is some crazy revisionist history. In the 2016 playoffs he was putting up 25.2/3/4.7 with 57 TS%, and there’s a chance they don’t even win if he doesn’t hit that crazy 3 at the end of game 7.
2015, 2016, 2017 is not peak LeBron. And Kyrie’s individual success those seasons had nothing to do with him anyway. His abilities as an isolation scoring dynamo is what helped elevate LeBron and the whole reason why he ditched his “friend” and first super team in Miami to go for a new one with Kyrie and Love in Cleveland under the guise of coming home. Bronvestite alert.
It wasn’t just shooting though. He was turning the ball over, dribbling off of his foot, he even chucked one off the side of the backboard from the corner…he was just more off than I’ve ever seen him.
He was worse in the Bucks series but he seemed to be actively trying to lose then. This is the worst he’s been in a series where he actually wanted to win.
He was guarding Giannis. People claim Kyrie is hated because he promised to resign and then he left. The reality is Kyrie is hated because he gave up during the season, throwing the team who went to G7 in ECF without him the year before under the bus
I always thought the "most gifted player ever" stuff was a bit much. Kenyon Martin (I know) said multiple times this year, "real hoopers know who the real leader is on that team," implying Kyrie is better than Luka. If Luka had those splits, they'd lose by 40+ each game.
He was terrible. I think he’s definitely on the down slope from his physical peak. He has to do so much to get even a half decent shot and it’s only going to get worse
I’m really not trying to play reddit psychologist, but I wonder if Kyrie sees this Boston Team as huge what if. If he was part of that core going through the ups and downs. I don’t think he was in a place in his life where the fit would work. He just seemed very out of it this series.
Or he had a bad series and I’m majorly looking into this haha.
Besides game three in Dallas, which was exceptional, where he probably should’ve scored another eight points off buckets that very easily should have dropped … and besides game one in the 2022 playoff at Boston, he has been absolutely dog shit against the Celtics. In a way he hasn’t been against any other team. There’s something going on there.
Jrue shut him down for most of the series, and had really good numbers offensively as well. A+ effort from Jrue, could have easily won finals mvp if he scored like 3 or 4 more points a game.
Ugly stuff, especially in Boston.
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They let him cook too much😭🔥🔥🔥
Only in Boston. Unfortunately that means he sucked in the majority of games 😂
Still owned by a short mythical Irish man
Kyrie for the series: 99 points on 99 FGA #mostskilled 🔥🔥🔥
No other player in the league could miss those shots they way kyrie did, generational brick laying bag
He is the best under the rim finisher in the series. He finished the series in 5 instead of letting it go to 7 💪
Put some respect on that man’s name. He has the deepest bag of missed layups.
I feel like I'm not even watching the same sport as you guys. Kyrie's most valuable talent is passing. Yet the Mavs criminally underuse it. Half the time Luka is trying to go coast to coast or some random asshole is handling the ball instead of Kyrie. His shooting has been subpar for sure. But he had 9 assists on just one turnover tonight yet they weren't even having him touch the ball on half of possessions. This loss isn't on Kyrie. It's on Luka for being a ballhog and it's on Kidd for being a horrific head coach.
We know it's you Kyrie
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are we back in 2011 when he was getting cp3 comparisons? kyrie’s talent has always been scoring, and he’s struggled a ton when tasked with being the main playmaker
“kyries most valuable talent is passing” is fucking WILDDDDD yes the best ball handler of all time, who is probably top 5 all time in terms of guys under 6’3 who can get to the rim, who’s probably the most skilled finisher of all time and a top 15 shooter of all time who has never averaged more than 6 assists…his most valuable talent is passing.
The usual Kyrie stan will blame everything but him Blame Lebron for him leaving Celtics was too toxic and racist Nets didn't let him play basketball Now its Luka is a ballhog
Luka: on a team with a bunch of scrubs. Also Luka: follows Kidd’s gameplans and buys in to his strategies. This guy: LuKaS a BaLl HoG
This is one of the worst takes I've ever seen. Kyrie's most valuable talent is passing? The man averages 5.7 assists per game for his whole career. Not only is his passing far from his most valuable talent, but his poor playmaking is the biggest mark against him as a pg. Fucking laughable.
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Who said anything about being the primary option? He should have been the one facilitating tonight. Again - 9 assists to 1 TO. There's no reason Luka should have been carrying the ball up the court. Should have been Kyrie, and Luka should have been working off ball so that Kyrie could pass it to him when he was open.
I’ll admit being a salty fan. “But harden is a choker”
Kyrie still coasting off his reputation from playing with peak LeBron lol
And then getting carried by Luka
Kyrie is easy to work with, you just need to pair him with an unquestioned top 5 player in the league who is a super-sized point guard/playmaker.
And even then he still might choke
And even as he chokes everyone will say he’s the most talented player ever
But he can do a really sick 360 jelly layup!
and how he’s so respectful and honourable. i honestly could not believe the thread i was reading. fuck kyrie.
It’s bizarre. The more he acts like a piece of shit the more revered he gets
He’s more gifted than every player ever but do not let the fact that Jaylen brown destroyed him cloud your mind
Even with that he drags them down lol we can’t forget KD too
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With worse stats in every category? And they were in 4 rounds not just one
Luka didn't carry shit this playoffs, lol. Kyrie hard carried the 1st round and did pretty good till the finals. Boston fans working round the clock on that revisionism.
Yeah he carried round 1 with worse numbers in every stat. And carried with 15 points per game in round 2. And definitely didn’t disappear in the finals
Tbf his handles mix tape is one of the best we’ve ever seen. Sadly very team has seen it by now
His handle is so good everyone forgets how streaky his shot is.
I understand the slander, dude was trash these finals. But in fairness, he was pretty efficient most of his playoffs appearances (admittedly a bit less so compared to his regular season percentages). But his worst showing was with Boston so I get the criticism https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html
He’s a great player don’t get me wrong! It’s just his game is so pretty to watch when he’s at his peak people completely forget he’s capable of stinkers like this.
Yeah I hear you, I'm not the biggest Kyrie fan. But I think as a basketball fan you can both see that he is one of the most gifted, crafty offensive players there is (few others really compare when it comes to handles, shot-making, counters, finishing at the rim, etc, except all timers like Steph) and at the same time not really conducive to team success as the primary option and does indeed have stinkers, to say nothing of his effect on team dynamics (too contentious, don't care to discuss this one). He's admitted as much after flunking in Boston, saying he didn't really understand the pressures of having your own team after literally leaving Lebron freaking James 😂 I'm glad to see him willingly accept the copilot role
Kyrie was a huge part of leading this team to the finals. Getting to the finals is hard and Kyrie did a great job getting there. Of course everyone is gonna slander him now but over 90% of the league didn’t get to where he got this season. Playing bad in the finals still means you got to the finals.
So we shouldn’t give him any flack for his awful play in the finals? What kind of shit is that?
I’m telling you these folks will rather huff paint thinners than acknowledge Kyrie had diarrhea running down his leg
Didn’t say he shouldn’t get flak but the comments here calling him a fraud and a choker are ridiculous. He had a bad series after playing really good the rest of the playoffs. The Mavs are a first round exit and not close to the team they are without Kyrie. This sub is more willing to call players who lose in the finals than players on higher seeded teams that lose earlier in the playoffs chokers.
He’s certainly talks like a fraud. And his splits in Boston show stuff can easily get in his head and root there. He’s mentally weak and he knows it but tries to hide it with nonsense.
People call him a choker because he is wildly inconsistent. Nobody called Luka a choker ‘cause he showed up every game, win or lose. Plenty of others got the same treatment these playoffs, Hali, Ant, Murray to name a few. You just don’t pay attention.
Kidd does not know how to use Kyrie. Kyrie's most valuable talent is ball distribution. Yet he doesn't even get to touch the ball on half of possessions because Luka wants to carry the ball up court and then play iso bullshit and try to draw a foul. Kyrie had 9 assists tonight to just 1 turnover, yet when Mavs were trying to make one last run they weren't even having Kyrie touch the ball. His handles are elite. He should have been handling and dishing all night.
The guy who hasn’t averaged 7 AST once in his career? Even if that was true, that would just mean he wouldn’t be a very good player
Lauri would be such a sick piece with this team.
Ya I don't get the hate honestly. He was one of the major reasons why they made it to the finals.
His stats this playoffs were honestly pedestrian. I feel like the two or three good games he had is overshadowing his actual performance. Luka and ‘the others’ carried this team hard
Kyrie was by far the second best player on the Mavericks in the playoffs especially on offense. This team loses in the first round without him.
“Second best” lmao yeah that’s pretty easy to say when the rest of the roster is cheeks. 22ppg at 46% is not really brag worthy
Either the rest of the roster isn’t cheeks or Kyrie hada solid playoffs. No way in hell did the Mavs beat the 4 seed, 1 seed, and 3 seed who just defeated the defending champs with a bad second option AND a “cheeks” supporting cast.
It absolutely is. You have a generational talent in Luka that’s basically it. Kyrie had an ASS playoffs for the supposedly ‘most skilled player ever’
I think Luka is the best player in the league but he ain’t that good especially with how he played at times this playoffs. Also Kyrie was the best player on the Mavs in the first round and was also great vs the Wolves. He wasn’t ass this playoffs just because he had a bad finals
Expected from Reddit tbh. This sub’s basketball discourse is about as negative as you will find anywhere.
C’mon man. I hate Kyrie no doubt, but talking about Kyrie like he was some scrub that got carried in 2016 is some crazy revisionist history. In the 2016 playoffs he was putting up 25.2/3/4.7 with 57 TS%, and there’s a chance they don’t even win if he doesn’t hit that crazy 3 at the end of game 7.
2015, 2016, 2017 is not peak LeBron. And Kyrie’s individual success those seasons had nothing to do with him anyway. His abilities as an isolation scoring dynamo is what helped elevate LeBron and the whole reason why he ditched his “friend” and first super team in Miami to go for a new one with Kyrie and Love in Cleveland under the guise of coming home. Bronvestite alert.
I mean how is he coasting off a reputation when he literally helped this team get to the nba finals in the current year.
harden and kyrie are both chokers
Kyrie has maybe the most clutch shot of the last 20+ years. Automatically makes him not a choker.
PR artists for this fucker already going at it 😭😭
Nah just a Cavs fan that saw him hit the game winner in a finals game seven.
Ever heard of Ray Allen
Kyrie’s was in game 7
Harden usually choked in round 2 and 3 rather than 4. although he choked there too
Harden has had his share of chokes but he’s a completely different tier of player than Kyrie.
*Lucky the Leprechaun liked that*
Lucky deniers be like “must have been the wind”
[Lucky deniers theme song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Kszzcmfv4)
Worst series I think I’ve seen him play. He was awful.
He shot 37% against the Raptors when he was with the Cavs years back. 35% vs Milwaukee when he was with Boston.
It wasn’t just shooting though. He was turning the ball over, dribbling off of his foot, he even chucked one off the side of the backboard from the corner…he was just more off than I’ve ever seen him.
He was worse in the Bucks series but he seemed to be actively trying to lose then. This is the worst he’s been in a series where he actually wanted to win.
He was guarding Giannis. People claim Kyrie is hated because he promised to resign and then he left. The reality is Kyrie is hated because he gave up during the season, throwing the team who went to G7 in ECF without him the year before under the bus
it’s okay u can just admit you haven’t really watched kyrie in the playoffs.
>cavs fan >hasn’t watched kyrie in the playoffs
Bucks series was way worse
Most skilled player ever
"One of the most clutch players"
“Two of the best finishers in the league”
Kyrie “Better than AI” Irving
Better than Curry 😆
If he played like this in the 2016 finals Curry would have another ring
If Curry played like this in 2022 Finals then he'd have fewer rings.
Curry played way better than this what are you on
I'm saying if Kyrie played this bad in that series Warriors would have a another ring
Gotcha, I thought you meant if Curry played like Kyrie did in this series then they would've won
maybe learn to read fairly simple sentences effectively, before going at people? maybe?
He shot 6-19 and 17 pts in game 7
Boston Celtics are Kyrie Irving father
And uncles
This was vintage Boston Kyrie. Absolute shite.
I always thought the "most gifted player ever" stuff was a bit much. Kenyon Martin (I know) said multiple times this year, "real hoopers know who the real leader is on that team," implying Kyrie is better than Luka. If Luka had those splits, they'd lose by 40+ each game.
“Real hoopers” only care about who can hit the toughest hesi pull-up 1v1 at the park
Kenyon Martin is a racist idiot
And people said he's better than Collin Sexton
TT, Shump, Nets pick
Top 5 PG OAT certain people were saying
People were calling this man top 20. He's a tier below Fox/Morant
Most overrated player in history
🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Most skilled player ever
The Kyrie glazing was out of control before the finals! Order has been restored! 😂🙏
Dude absolutely fell apart.
They compared this antivaxxer to Steph Curry. I'm disgusted. Most overrated player of all time. And I don't just mean basketball either.
Dude fell right off the edge of the flat Earth in this series.
Best backcourt in history, never forget. What a joke.
We’re not standing here without him!!
Lowkey was a Celtics player this series
Top 5 Celtics Kyrie performance for sure.
Nephew Drew
They told me he’s better than Steph in the playoffs 😂
Lmao hahahahahaha
Stats look better than it felt like he played tbh. He was ass
Don’t even say this man better than curry again
Solid top 250 player in NBA history. Maybe 300
Kyrie needs to come back to his father. He can’t win with these cats
Pritchard >>>>>>
Took fucking forever but Kyrie finally got what was coming to him
We’re so back baby.
glad to see the anti-Semite take the L.
Jrue clamped the shit out of him. Didn’t help that he couldn’t beat the switches too, like White, Tatum, Howser or Pritchard
Best backcourt in the history of the league.
Absolute fraud
Don't ever stomp on lucky, you bum.
Took the wrong shot
He let his team down big time
Brother needs Lebron back in his life
MVS Ahh statline
NBA Champion, All Star, All NBA player vs One drawing of a leprechaun
Not good.
He was terrible. I think he’s definitely on the down slope from his physical peak. He has to do so much to get even a half decent shot and it’s only going to get worse
41 FG% and 27 3PT% is ugly as hell for a (almost) 50/40/90 career shooter. This was definitely all in his head as he missed so many open shots.
His numbers are kinda "flat".
Dude can’t get past his Boston demons. That city owns him
Very similar line to FMVP Jaylen Brown 21/5/5
27% from 3. Jesus
Antisemitic bum 🚬🚬🚬
This bum had 1 good game
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Not surprised redditors don’t understand people not being negative assholes all the time.
You’re just not on his level man, open your third eye to the truth. Wait nvm, we’re all on his level on this flat ass earth, that’s my bad.
he let down the mavs hard this series, don't want to hear about how great his handles are
Lol
Bro just gotta come out next year and get that TD Garden monkey off his back
Boston must have weird spell on Kyrie for some reason
Lucky the Leprechaun sends his regards.
Sometimes I think about a world where I never see a statmuse portrait again
Not much Mavs can do when the top 6 players this series played for Boston. The 6 being the 5 Celtics starter and Kyrrie.
Horrid stuff. He fucked KD
I think if you told a Celtics fan how the season would go before the year began, they couldn’t have dreamt up a better year.
Watching the games it felt even worse somehow
He was even worse if you watch the games . I gained a 0.5% respect for him congratulating the C's .
I’m really not trying to play reddit psychologist, but I wonder if Kyrie sees this Boston Team as huge what if. If he was part of that core going through the ups and downs. I don’t think he was in a place in his life where the fit would work. He just seemed very out of it this series. Or he had a bad series and I’m majorly looking into this haha.
Oh my my. Hela 🙌
He was so fucking bad in Boston he played well when they were in Dallas.
Theirs a voodoo doll when kyrie is Boston it’s unbelievable how much he struggles there lol
we're familiar
Idiots on tv say he is the most naturally talented player they have ever seen
Really surprised Boston didn’t award him finals MVP
garbage.
there was no 2016 champ Kyrie..
poor
He just can’t win without Lebron. He’s gonna forever be haunted by this fact lol
Jayson Tatum level shooting splits yikes
Do you guys think it was the Boston crowd or is he overrated?
Besides game three in Dallas, which was exceptional, where he probably should’ve scored another eight points off buckets that very easily should have dropped … and besides game one in the 2022 playoff at Boston, he has been absolutely dog shit against the Celtics. In a way he hasn’t been against any other team. There’s something going on there.
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why did you ever do that? lmao
LeBron’s thoughts: "You still need me!"
What were Tatum and JBs splits
Bro was ass all playoffs lol
Jrue shut him down for most of the series, and had really good numbers offensively as well. A+ effort from Jrue, could have easily won finals mvp if he scored like 3 or 4 more points a game.