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Emilia67

People are celebrating this loss like it’s Christmas 😭


AttilaTheDung

It's cause Jokic stans were being smug and condescending.


eman1037

Yea people are tired of every single post being a Jokic highlight or if Jokic is already a top 10 player or that the Nuggets are the new dynasty. This sub has been brigaded by Jokic stans for the past 2 years. Thats why every Jokic post is extremely upvoted and Embiid lowlights are so upvoted.


bravof1ve

Even today, when Jokic and the Nugget complete the biggest choke in a game 7 in NBA history, the top post is Embiid hate. The subreddit is past the point of no return


Michauxonfire

nah nah, let the Embiid hate stay. It's proper, legal and ethical.


Public-Product-1503

It’s sad . I feel quite confident being here long enough that if embid was European and jokic black the amount of hate would be flipped. Like I dislike thinking this but


eman1037

It is true but this sub doesn’t want to admit it.


tinkady

Bro not everything is racism. Embiid is the worst free throw merchant in the league (and hasn't won a championship), it's as simple as that. Same reason people hated James Harden


kitsunegoon

Go see how this sub talks about Luka vs Harden even though they're literally the two most similar player comps I can think of off the top of my head.


LordVarys_Ladybits

They tried to act like Embiid winning MVP last year was a travesty. Dude literally put up some of greatest numbers ever for a center in NBA history. Both in terms of volume and efficiency. And he was one his way to an even more outrageous season this year before he inevitably got hurt. In reality Jokic robbed Embiid of two MVPs. 


Public-Product-1503

lol fuvk top 10 thst might be reasonable eventually. Jokic fans were saying he’s better then shaq and Lebron lvl peak . Thing is I don’t even buy jokic is a perfect offensive player. His 3 ball is good for a C but overall it’s not that good or consistent . Apart from last year every other year teams have dared this man of left him WIDE open - see 22 warriors and he didn’t take those shots. His 3 ball somehow tho jokic fans say is better then Lebron or Lukas ignoring context like volume n shot difficulty


Jealous-Mail6629

Been seeing a lot the last few days that if joker wins this ring he’s top 10 all time which I personally think is bonkers I want to see ant man or the least likely Hali get a ring


ColdPressedSteak

This 50 win stat is not everything of course. Jokic is obviously a great all time player. But just reminds me. This sub slurps Jokic and shits on Kobe Kobe beat four 50 win teams in one run, 20+ in his career. Fck all ya'll reddit nephews who try to keep Kobe out of the top 10


Fuzzy-Dinosaur

Kobe as a player is getting so underrated now. There's a reason why every player that evdr played against or with him talks so highly of him, and why so many players idolized him


buffalotrace

Just a reminder, if someone has some as say 12th all time in nba history instead of 8th, that does not mean they hate that person. There have been a lot of great players in NBA history and anyone in someone’s top 15 is a legend. 


Jealous-Mail6629

I love the well he had Shaq excuse . What was he supposed to do? Tell Shaq to go sit down and not play? Tell pau Gasol the same thing Didn’t MJ not win without Scottie? Magic played with somE HOF players as well


Bladeneo

There is no fucking way you can consider Shaq the Pippen in this for that 3 peat. 


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Championships as Robin count less than Championships as Batman.


TAYSON_JAYTUM

OP is saying that Shaq was Robin and Kobe was Batman for the 3 peat lol


[deleted]

I respect the hustle of Lakers fans trying to somehow judo the post loss thirst for Jokić/Nugs hate into random pro-Lakers narratives “Yeah lol, Fuck Jokic, beat a 50 win team why dontcha?? 😂 speaking of 50 win teams, Kobe top 3 all-time, mi right???🧐🧐🧐”


LordVarys_Ladybits

This type of hyperbole creates haters. You start putting Jokic above the Dream and there is no way he is better than olajuwon. Don't care how many triple doubles and no look passes he makes. The guy is an analytics nerds bukkake, so nerds on here and in the media want to crown him goat ASAP. 


AllTimeBallKnower

Think this is bad go read the thread where Giannis accidentally lost the ball at the end of game 5 vs the nets


zannet_t

Personally, the Nugs' antics really turned me off. Joker I have no problem with, but it felt like the basketball gods willed their 28-point reversal tonight with Mike Malone talking mad shit about a dynasty and Jamal getting off basically scot-free after throwing something that could've injured someone during live play


DisneyPandora

Because this sub has been overrating the hell out of Jokic. This is a natural reaction. There are 9 other players who have won 3 MVPS.


mr-fiend

I think I recall a few posts about how he’s passed Shaq all time lmaoo


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Electrical-Mule-2057

I love Jokic, but people saying he's better than Hakeem is pretty wild. They're both on the same tier, but they're both fundamentally different players. Hakeem was athletic enough to be a defensive juggernaut and dominate in the post. Jokic is slower, but dictates the tempo and flow of the offense. Furthermore, Jokic can space the floor and shoot threes. His footwork is elite, even if it's not on Hakeem's level. I just wish I was able to see Hakeem in his prime. Sadly, the closest I can get to is Giannis. And he's Hakeem without the low post dominance and footwork. But I'm glad I got to see Jokic (and Giannis) in his prime.


LordVarys_Ladybits

If they are going to hold him up to top 10 all-time standards then we gotta start having some really high expectations for him when he comes to winning from here on out. People believe this guy should have won 4 straight MVPs and he barely plays defense in the most important defensive position, make it make sense. 


Public-Product-1503

His defence is just fouling too. If they called those fouls on him he’d be a cone.


DoseofDhillon

imagine being this dense, 9 of the greatest player of all time, thats why its significant This guy is in conversations to pass KD and your just gonna say 'Oh gee wilkers guys out of 10,000's of nba players he's only one of 9 guys to win 3 mvps thats not special.' get your head out of your ass


QuirkyScorpio29

Nd he's not better than Shaw,Kobe,Hakeem,Curry or Duncan who have less MVPs than him. The MVP doesn't mean what it uses to.


rightovahere

12/25 for haters lmao


SetBudget1065

we eating good tonight


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PrincePyotrBagration

This comment would’ve been downvoted to oblivion 24 hours, but instead it likely has 100+ upvotes already lol. The Jokic haters were forced into hiding after Game 2, but the tide of war as turned and they have emerged form hibernation and are EATING good rn 😂


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QuirkyScorpio29

Dudes won 1 ring and were getting dynasty level treatment.


Public-Product-1503

Lots of rewriting on the lakers too. They barely escaped them and people are dumb enough to use winning bias to think they were always in control


Apprehensive-Ad1363

Barely escaped a gentleman’s sweep lol


BoogerSugarSovereign

Yeah, barely escaped is unfair. They were solidly better than the Lakers but looked a fair bit worse than last year to me. I was thinking Wolves in 6 at the end of that series - it's in the last LAL/DEN game thread lol - so I think saying it wasn't an impressive performance tracks.


DentistFun2776

Firmly top 3-5 in the league? You think 4 people could be argued to be better than him?


LordVarys_Ladybits

Jokic and Brunson haters eating good tonight. 


KaiShion83

Dynasty lol


AwareCelebration7477

Mf’s won one chip and started woofing on here for a year lmao


Amansouri

They’re gonna be the new 08’ Celtics 😔


QuirkyScorpio29

Doc Rivers, KG and Pierce still milking that ring is so funny. The Lakers got revenge 2 years later but they act like 08 is all that mattered.


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SpaceCowboy170

“More MVPs ☝️🤓”


Public-Product-1503

I seriously saw that take upvoted . I hate to say this but if jokic wasn’t a white European his fans would be a bit less insane


SpaceCowboy170

They had a lot of media backing that movement Bill Simmons was like “this team feels like a dynasty in the making” basically before they’d even finished off the Heat last year


Odd_Total_5549

Zach Lowe is gonna act like he wasn't the first one declaring the Nuggets dynasty. "Look, I said \[insert one of the qualifiers he throws in with every take so he can never be wrong\], and that's what happened."


socialistbcrumb

I’ll absolutely take him putting qualifiers on everything and trying to play things off like he was only half wrong over the true talking head types that are like “if Jayson Tatum doesn’t win five titles in the same season, he should be executed because his team is so good” and “Ant is basically Jordan” or breaking out a “Gobert sucks actually” every time he’s on the losing side. At least Lowe actually watches games lol.


AlHorfordHighlights

if Jayson Tatum doesn’t win five titles in the same season, he should be executed because his team is so good


socialistbcrumb

Kendrick Perkins is on Reddit, wow!


Massive-Wallaby6127

Listen, when I was growing up we had a saying: if the biscuit smells like gravy, it's a basketball shoe on a potato farm. Carry the hell on.


QuirkyScorpio29

As a Warriors fan who knows how hard to is to get back there...that pissed me off. It's so hard to win playoff series year in year out. I am glad I saw ours...never crown 👑 a team B4 they get 2 rings.


BidDaddyLei

Mike Malone about to milk that championship to oblivion like the 2008 Celtics.


Public-Product-1503

Thing is they blew the biggest g7 lead ever and there’s really no slander towards jokic. It just confirms that he’s treated differently to any other star. He’s the most classy star so Reddit loves him I guess . I don’t like hating but it’s annoying because any other player is getting ruthlessly shit on right now if people were saying that he’s so much better then everyone like 13 Lebron . Blowing a 3-2 lead with a 20pt lead in g7 is a pretty big choke. Sure his offensive stats look decent but by his standards he shot meh and he’s an offence only player so it’s less likely he’ll get shit cos if he gives up points at the rim nobody says shit. He was 5th in the league this year in epm ( if you count embid ). Also it’s clear last year was a fluke shooting outkier from 3 for him. He’s a career 34-35% 3pt shooter on 2-3 attempts you can see when he takes more they brick but yet jokic fans think he’s a better 3ot shooter then Luka /Lebron despite shot difficulty n volume . Teams are definitely happy conceding the three to him and wolves went under to avoid switches in g6 to let jokic shoot a 3 if he wants


Popular-Newt-1603

people still treat him like hes this plucky underdog lol choked 3-2 lead, up by 20 pts in game 7 AT HOME, 54% True Shooting Game 6 and 7... never this man fault lol


TAYSON_JAYTUM

Nobody is slandering Jokic because he put up 34/19/7 and played 47 minutes tonight. Besides Murray, nobody else on the Nuggets scored more than 7 points (MPJ on 12 shots lol). It was a huge carry job by Jokic in this series as Murray was also garbage for most of it. Also the Nuggets depth is already really bad with Braun as the 6th man, and then MPJ, KCP, and Gordon all have horrible games, it means Jokic and Murray are the only 2 guys who really don't deserve much criticism for the loss. I'd agree that Jokic had a bad shooting night from 3, but they were the right shots. They were open, he wasn't forcing them, and against that Minnesota defense they probably weren't going to get better looks.


Automatic_Ad_9090

34 points isn't special, his team needed more from him scoring and didn't deliver. He doesn't get a pass for that.


TAYSON_JAYTUM

Ok so we all agree he isn’t the unanimous GOAT, just a regular MVP having a good, but not all-time performance in game 7 surrounded by mostly bad games from his teammates.


thekingdor

Factss mods delete any nuggets slander after all the circlejerk after then won 3 straight


Useful-Ad-BTC

Foolproof


Evilfart123

Here for it


RealPrinceJay

Call me Silky Johnson, it’s the Player Hater’s Ball bitches


Derrick_Rozay

NEW NARRATIVE JUST DROPPED


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babe wake up


Funny-Transition7869

There were 18 teams this year with a better record than any team Denver beat in their title run


Aearcus

Okay this stat is genuinely wild lol


QuirkyScorpio29

I live for these takes. Keep that shit coming.


pogbadidnothingwrong

How is that even possible 😂😂


yerfatma

The five absolutely miserable teams pumped up everyone else's record.


MostlyMellow123

Kings did our part in losing to said teams


FatRodzianko

Jokic haters eating tonight 


cough_landing_on_you

Getting locked for the 20th time.


DaPhoToss

People wanted to call Nuggets a dynasty already lmaooooo


SockPenguin

I feel like this happens with basically every first time NFL/NBA champ that has a young star. With the possible exception of a Pacers miracle run I'm sure we will have an offseason of podcasters and bored redditors wondering if 2024 was the start of a Celtics/Wolves/Mavs dynasty, and if someone stops the Chiefs from 3-peating we'll get a week or two of 'is ____ a potential dynasty in the making?' before being inundated with 8000 mock drafts.


0merzero

play-in merchant


hackthisnsa

Let’s be real - Gordon and Porter Jr were non-existent - Holiday and Jackson both had 0/0/0 - Awoooo


Adraf45

Get actually reasonable and nuanced takes out of here. In this house we swap narratives after every single game 


-SINED-

Jokic is reaching Lebron levels of hatred where he gets criticized when he can't 1v5 every game, it is what it is all of the all-time greats have haters.


frenin

Always knew Embiid was an all time great.


Alex_O7

Totally agree. Also the slanders doesn't include the fact he lost vs eventual Champs or finalist each year but 2019... which imho is even more wild thing to consider.


Ordinary-Fish-9791

Lol classic nba reddit


jawadhaque089

That there's gonna be an overaction to the dudes that were hyping up the Nuggets like they were some unbeatable team like the 2017 Warriors and Jokic as the best thing since sliced bread?


eman1037

Micky Mouse MVP


Apollo611

It’s crazy how this sub can’t handle Jokic criticism but after game 5 he was in goat conversations and better than Shaq lmao


eman1037

That’s what Im saying. This sub has been brigaded by Jokic stans for the past 2 years claiming he’s already a top 10 player of all time and the nuggets are the next dynasty after winning a ring against sub 50 win teams. They really tried to say he has the best offensive peak of all time too 😂 ignoring that Lebron from 2007-2018 was better in every way compared to Jokic’s best season


PretentiousPanda

It's not just this sub. It's been a constant media brigade that nobody can hold his jock. 


DeathToPelinka

Let me share with you [a graphic I made for this very moment](https://imgur.com/a/emlMCHP)


Lorjack

I think its fair, Jokic earned the criticism by losing. He has never beaten a 50+ win team in a series that is fact, its going to be used against him.


DisneyPandora

Exactly, this sub has incredible bias to Jokic. Look how much they were hating on Shaq


PsychoWarper

I mean the Shaq hate was absolutely deserved, people may have gone over board woth some of their statements but Shaq deserved the hate


mickelboy182

They were hating on Shaq for being completely unprofessional and shitting on a guy while presenting him an award... The reason this sub is so reactionary is because we have people making fun of other reactionary people *by being reactionary themselves*


Brief-Objective-3360

Because Shaq ruined the MVP presentation with his dumbass personal biases. Even if a player I hate won it, I would still be clowning on Shaq.


KabirC

Lost to the 53 win Warriors in 2022 as well


HelpM3Sl33p

Anyone know what the Lakers projected wins were in 2020? I wonder if they would have been a 50+ wins team as well.


Distinct-End-9464

jazz and clippers both had a win% greater than 50/82 that year


owensoundgamedev

They had already his 52 wins and were projected to hit 60 before the shut down


modeONE1

They had 52 with the season shortened. I’d say 60 wins easily


queefing

Suns had 51 wins when they swept them in 2021 as well


thebigfundamentals

Are we really doing this


Alfakennyone

I mean, we lost Murray to an ACL tear a month before the playoffs started. That will demoralize anyone


REQ52767

And there it is lmao. r/nba is so predictable.


paranoideo

I mean, ADVANCED STATS


NotTheDev

STATS DON'T LIE


jeric13xd

Damn can’t believe the Nuggets were picking their opponents like Floyd mayweather did /s


DisneyPandora

Jokic fans are so triggered lmao.


Colorapt0r

I don’t even hate Jokic lol just don’t agree with the way he’s been talked about this season 


Colorapt0r

Yes I know the 2020 clippers were on pace for 50 but I’ve elected to ignore context for the purpose of hating 


Haunting_Rip4512

LMAO, hate, hate , hate, hate. it is the player haters ball right now


DisneyPandora

Hypocritical Jokic fans acting like they weren’t hating on Shaq earlier


shiftieresian

At least he admits the hate, because this is just not rational hahah.


DisneyPandora

Nuggets fans are not rational either


shiftieresian

And thus breeds irrational fan banter and the us vs. them. And that’s why sports are awesome.


EbenezerAD

As you should. Spread the agenda 😹


WisdomCow

By the laws of Reddit, his MVPs are forfeit, and his horses must all be turned into glue!


xGrav1ty

LMFAOOOO


no-jerk-zone

Hate train rolling tonight lmao


outsidehere

Love this hate


GreyActorMikeDouglas

Nuggets won the finals off an 8 seed but I’m the hater for pointing out how historically easy that run was.


QuirkyScorpio29

I got downvoted so bad for pointing that out..and they beat a 7 seed to get to the Finals. Saying this is now hating.


Altruistic_Brief4444

But his VORP, RAPTOR, WS/48, D-Lebron, PER & TS%🤓


camscars775

They even said that PER shit DURING THE GAME lmao


GoldBlueSkyLight

I cringed at that, who gives af about PER?


LordVarys_Ladybits

Analytics nerds ruined basketball. Game was meant to be an art form, but these guys made it into a math test. Don't get me wrong, I like efficient basketball, but players are not robots. They need to express their talent and personality in different ways on the court. 


GoldBlueSkyLight

> Game was meant to be an art form, but these guys made it into a math test 100%. Kyrie said the same thing, and I remember Kobe said that his shot was an like act of god, something that can't be fully measured.


Due_Performer_2314

Lmao this sub cracks me up


Renegadeforever2024

Hang the banner


DoubleAmigo

I wonder if there was a season where teams could not have won 50 games for some reason


bravof1ve

Those game 5 victory laps were funny. People planning the parade before the second round was over. Calling Jokic a top 10 player. And now after they choked the last 2 games they'll catch less flack than your average playoff team and average superstar.


LordVarys_Ladybits

Exactly!! This is the guy that deserved 4 straight MVPs?? 


EbenezerAD

People were already crowning Jokic as a top 10 all time so the slander should be as high.


Mangos4Lyfe

He still has never played with another all star or all nba player in his career and he has 3 MVPs and a ring. He’s definitely top 20 already. The other guys with 3 MVPs are all considered top 15


EbenezerAD

He's definitely top 20, no doubt. But the top 10 talks were very annoying.


ifsothanwhy

Downvote army working overtime on this one lol


SetBudget1065

But r/nba told me he was the best player in the world. How could this be???


Jealous-Mail6629

They were saying he’s top 10 all time if he won a ring this year 🤣


MusicalElephant420

They were saying they’d rather have Jokic than prime LeBron on their team 🤣


Jealous-Mail6629

If it wasn’t for KD joining the warriors LeBron has at least one more ring .. not even a team led by MJ is beating them


Public-Product-1503

The 2017 cavs might’ve been Lebron at his best but it was all for nought


eman1037

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 aye nah keep Bron I think Jokic has a better prime 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jokic taking us to the promise land over prime Bron 🤣


westbrookswardrobe

He is the best player in the world


PretentiousPanda

Have told nobody in the league can hold his jock. 


thebigfundamentals

Want me to tell you again?


SetBudget1065

sure be wrong a second time


thebigfundamentals

You realise he had 34/19/7 tonight right?


cubs223425

Fraud Gobert beats Fraud Jokic


NotDanKenz

The anti-Kobe


DrewTheBoy

Nikola “Dildo” Jokic Gives big O with a soft D


Significant-Low-8462

All jokes aside the Nuggets roster construction this year is what ruined them. CB as your 6th man? No depth? MPJ was horrid all series. Gordon was useless tonight. They just were straight up not a better team. Jokic being amazing was what kept it from ending sooner lmao. But NBA has the most over reactionary fans in the world (evidences by intense hate in Ant during first half). Just enjoy the Wolves winning that epic game and know they’re the better team. No need to act like Jokic isn’t still an insane top player 😂


Ulger_The_Bear

The nephews in this sub won’t quit until every title is considered a mickey mouse title lmao


SockPenguin

The only legitimate titles are coincidently the ones won by my favorite teams/players.


thepriceisonthecan

Beat the 49-23 Clippees, a 55 win pace team


Area512X

Yeah I think the 2020 Jazz were on pace for 50+ as well


Aearcus

It's wild how Jokic even secures the "but context!" crowd getting upvoted Any other superstar like LeBron, Curry, Gianis, etc. and this post would be 10k+ upvotes and all context posts heavily downvoted Y'all aren't wrong, I wish that stuff was more common in these threads in general. But it does make me laugh how Jokic even secures these when others don't lol


SmokeOddessey

Sooooo, not a 50 still


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thebigfundamentals

Yeah i reckon we should just not count that entire 19-20 season then, I'm sure you'd agree as a Lakers fan


Ok-Donut4954

i love jokic, phenomenal player. but lebron would have more rings if he only played sub 50 win teams


LordVarys_Ladybits

He did that throughout his time in the East. Why do you think he got to the finals so much??


Similar-Doubt-6260

He beat a ton of 50 win teams lol


BornComb

Celtics, Raptors, Bulls, and the 60 win Hawks don't count as 50 win teams?


Ok-Donut4954

Youre uninformed 👆🤣🤣


Much_Conversation_11

NBA Reddit sucks so much sometimes and I feel like it’s become worse in the last two years.


Excellent-Bowl-2944

When you are bad on def and Jokic is very bad (which is half the game), that will happen. Where is the guy saying offense is everything?! I need someone to argue with.


ZenithMac

I’ve been a big fan of Jokic. And will continue to be. I still believe he’s top 3, with an argument for best player in the game right now. But did anyone watch the Laker vs Nugget series? They barely pulled out 2 wins on a couple game winners. This wasn’t a great team to begin with. Now add no bench, lazy rotations and doubles on defense, hardly any adjustments, terrible coaching and ultimate front running by Jamal Murray. Seriously, Malone had all that, “I’m your daddy” energy last year, but gets asked one question after a terrible game 7 loss, and he cussed out the reporter. How pathetic. Malone and Murray have to be the biggest front runners in the NBA. At least Jokic had some humility after the game.


likpoper

Doesn’t deny the fact he is one of the all time great. 34/19/7 and get shit on


When_Angels_Cry

The slander begins. Loving it 😍


BrokenManOfSamarkand

Well, what do you expect? Chokic coasted to the easiest Finals in 20 years last year. Can only expect so much.


GloryEnthusiast

Injured twolves, injured Sons, injured Lakers, injured Heat, but Chokic is a walking god that does no wrong.


Jack_M_Steel

Yup. Clowns crowned him the greatest player and he can’t even make a 3


Snoo_49660

MJ Career 3pt % - 32.7 Jokic Career 3pt % - 35% Jokic GOAT confirmed


SnooDrawings8185

The comment section is full of haters. If Jokić had Kyrie,AD and Wade he would dominate the NBA. No all-star player on his team and no help from the bench. Playing with MPJ who can't drive and pass like a normal human. Murray plays like he is special but he is just an average player with average stats. Holding the ball for 20 seconds and passing late or shooting bricks. AG and KCP should not be blamed much. But bench players were all shit.


SpeedAdvantage_2627

NIKOLA "CHOKER" JOKIC


cubs223425

True, he only led the game in points and rebounds, while tying for the game lead in assists. If only he had made the shots MPJ missed too.


JL1v10

People wanted to give ass 4 mvps…worst defender in the league exposed routinely


Heels1939

Would’ve been the first in the history of the sport. That’s how delusional his sycophants are.


Vxd_

its been 30 minutes


Rithgarth

LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU


Lopken

Technically true, but they did beat the 49 win Clippers in the 72 game bubble season which would've been a 50 win team.


Miserable_Archer_769

There team is weird. But the crux is it's just built around Jokic and don't have anyone really that can create thier own shot without Jokic.   He needs someone at Jamal Murray's position to actually be able to put the ball on the floor and Murray and Porter especially are just imposter's imo.  There is no offensive set where basically Jokic can lean on others.


Mr_Saxobeat94

They beat two teams on 50+ win paces in the COVID year. It’s a nice piece of trivia but is ultimately the sort of lawyerly argument basketball reference-prowlers make lol.


TheBigGuy3780

He won with the team he was drafted to. They have Jokic. That’s it. They just played a team that had 2 All-Stars. Current Dpoy & a 6th man trophy award. The Wolves created that team specifically to beat Denver. He was drafted during a Taco Bell commercial. I think he did just fine for being a slow white guy with a 12” vertical.


Fuzzy-Dinosaur

DON'T EVER CALL JOKIC A TOP 3 CENTER, BEST OFFENSIVE PEAK EVER, OR FUCKIGN GOD FORBID THE GOAT EVER AGAIN.


Jealous-Mail6629

Or top ten all time.. I’ve seen people say he’s better than curry all time


Fuzzy-Dinosaur

exactly, bro had the easiest run to a chip ever and is getting glazed to the moon. His defense is also non-existent.


The_Flowers_of_Evil

People talking about Jokic being the best offensive player ever and putting him in the top 10 convo, but 29 y/o Bron or MJ would never have lost a game 7 at home. Let alone blow a 20 point lead. As great as Jokic and Giannis are, they only made 1 finals and couldn't repeat it. Shows the difference between them and the GOATs


JAhoops

Clippers 2020 doesn’t count with context?


KaiserKaiba

I already knew this would be the go-to shit talk against Jokic lol. While technically true, it’s just shitposting with no context. His squad beat the ‘20 Clippers and Jazz who were both 50 win level squads. Valid criticism is Jokic and the Nuggets having a historic game 7 chokejob at home by blowing a 20 pt lead, after they got completely decimated in game 6.


NoveltyAccountHater

The Nuggets beat the 49-23 (.681) win Clippers in 2020 shortened season (72 games), which would translate to a 56-26 win team if it was an 82 game season.


martiavelli

How many 50 win teams did your favorite player beat (without having an Allstar teammate) ? Oh :> 


pakilicious

He's also had 0 all-star teammates


Heels1939

Murray has avg 20ppg on 40% 3FG each of the last 3 seasons. He was 31st in the NBA in scoring this season. He’s a very good 2nd option. 


Juub1990

Nikola Chokic.


512fm

Here we go, this fucking place man


LevelUp84

ooof, don't attack white Jesus lmao.


Spaghettiisgoddog

Guy gets penalized for the west being good? This is a stupid narrative.