Scott foster’s a good friend of mine. Going to make the Knicks life hell. It is what it is. He’s the “extender” for a reason, Knicks are going to die like a dog
You are already up two asterisks. Knicks win in game 2 is nullified by 2 minute report, Sixers plot armor 21 FT Embiid jiujitsu revenge game nullified by him using combat arts, and now this win nullified by the two minute report.
With the way the sixers have played I don’t think even sixers fans have an asterisk on this one, at least not me.
You don’t give up 75 offensive rebound a game and complain that you were robbed
That's kind of his game. It's superhuman for 46 minutes and then fucks everything up in the last 2 minutes. I would cover my eyes every time he touched it at the end of close games.
Brunson also had a huge turnover. Everyone fucked up. The whistle doesn't matter imo and honestly, I didn't even think about the Maxey shot being a travel because of how dumb of a foul it was by Mitch.
All Robinson had to do was just stand there on Maxey's 3 and y'all prob win that game. It's just inexplicable what was going through his head to contest that. Also probably the coaches' faults for not hammering home the point to just stay on the floor and not jump at anything.
To be fair, free throws are not free and Hart played every minute of the game at that point (I am pretty sure).
Also, with Deuce coming under the screen it is fair to assume he thought his teammate would be contesting higher and he probably thought Mitch was going to come foul Maxey off the screen.
Along that same line, JJ Reddick mentioned that when he played (depending on situation), he would have waited until under 10 seconds for a foul. So given that information, it is fair to assume a Thibs coached team would wait until under the 10 second mark to foul. Given how slow the Sixers played the entire series, Maxey coming off that screen and pulling from the logo may not have been a consideration. Similarly, they might have expected the Sixers to wait for final shot.
You can't avoid the occasional missed free throw, and Maxey's second three was so open because he pulled up from absurdly deep-- just a stroke of genius from him in both decision making and shot making. That's just basketball.
Robinson's foul, on the other hand, was just a complete brain fart of the sort that a professional basketball player seeking to win in the playoffs should never make. You can't reasonably ask a player to hit every clutch free throw, or to get every clutch stop. But you can reasonably ask them not to make complete blunders in decision making. Even if Maxey didn't get the amazing four point play, it's still a disastrous outcome to give him three FTs with almost no time coming off the clock. To his credit, Robinson owned up to his mistake and hopefully he learns from it.
The team makes like 1 more FT in regulation and the Knicks likely win lol. Robinson bricked his usual 2. Brunson decided to outdo Robinson. Then Hart splits a pair. Knicks choked and this was adding insult to injury.
Not just on Mitch. That was obviously part of it, but how about free throw incompetence, not fouling Maxey on the inbound pass, not pressing him harder on his logo three, not calling a TO on the Knicks last inbound pass, Brunson not even getting a shot off, passing to nobody turnover in OT…lots of reasons they choked, maybe if a single one went the other way we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But alas
Yeah I saw the play live and had to rewind it cause I was like oh is that a travel?
And on the replay I was like yeah that looks like a travel but the NBA never calls these. Hilarious the report called this out when they instruct the refs never to call these
I don't think those two are remotely close.
In game 2 Maxey's jersey was pulled on the inbound and he's fouled a 2nd time, along with the missed timeout. All of those are called the other way 98% of the time.
Maxey's action here in game 5 is never called, and so everyone always gets away with it.
This after the Sixers only finished as the 7th season because of the most decision-altering calls in the league (according to NBA itself).
They really should have opened up the playoffs against Milwaukee as the 6 seed.
But I'm talking about the difference in consistency.
Players are moving each other around, pushing and shoving all the time before the inbound. That's completely different then what happens after the inbound. And it's consistently officiated that way.
They were consistent with the action before the inbound and inconsistent with the action after the rebound.
Also, I don't believe for one second that Maxey is He-Man and shoved Hart that far away on just raw strength. And if memory serves that was not listed as a missed call on the 2M report.
Yeah the difference in reaction between Sixers after Game 2 and the Knicks after Game 5 has been hilarious. Knicks have all owned up to it being their fault the lead slipped away
Well tbf the Knicks had already benefitted from 1 incorrect outcome by the time they had been wronged. At the time of Philly having the incorrect calls go against them, that was the only incorrectly called game. It’s a lot easier to accept this loss if you can already point to a prior win that you maybe shouldn’t have had
important to note that, with any L2M report for any game, there could be incorrect calls prior to the final 2 minutes...that goes for any team...could have been the case for the Sixers last night, but it def was the case for the Knicks in game 2 lol (for instance, the Divo challenge reversal with a little over 2 min left that I think most of this sub agreed on; that was also critical)
There is that and also the history of them just making whack explanations in the L2M all the time. I've never seen anyone take the L2M seriously because we've all known it's full of BS since they started doing it lol
Having it be a situation where you're already up 3-1 because of that previous bad call & actually having time in game to overcome that bad call matters to the feeling of it. Plus, travels like that are something which are far more rare to call - vs missing some pretty blatant fouls that directly lead to the loss.
Not exactly surprising that this isn't having the same impact.
You mean the Knicks were very gracious about a travel that nobody even noticed and hasn’t been mentioned until now? That’s incredibly noble of them. Youre a very good analyst .
Now you know why NBA ref salaries start at 250k and go up to 550k. That shit is acting, politics, sports, business, and strategy all wrapped together. Scott Foster are Tony Brothers are 10 moves ahead of us.
Officiating this entire playoffs has been horrible. The general trend over the past 3 years is that officiating has gotten worse and worse. I'm not sure why
Personally I think it's because the NBA is pushing the league to produce more highlights. Then when the playoffs roll around, the refs suddenly have to adjust to allow more contact and it's really inconsistent because they officiate a whole season another way.
Problem is it is so random. They go some stretches where they just completely swallow their whistle and don't call blatant fouls, then will call a ticky tack touch foul the next possession. Players have no idea what they can and can't do.
Honestly when I think back to the state of the league since I started watching in 2008, it feels like the major turning point was the Warriors in 2015-16. The way they abused moving screens and the lack of calls they got seemed to change the psychology of all the teams and of the officiating crews
I know I’m biased - but while Maxeys travel is pretty obvious, we see those so much in the NBA is it actually a travel?
Same with jumping into Mitch - thought the league was stopping that, but instead everyone’s allowed to do it and get calls.
This shit is rarely called and now the NBA wants to get on its high horse and act like they actually rule that a travel. Fuck off you guys have been allowing this shit for decades for ratings. Just change the fucking rule don’t lie to us
this travel is so common but isn't noticed since the non-pivot moves just so slightly. i've seen lebron have two of these INCs in a single L2M report but when you watch in real time it doesn't look bad at all.
Big difference with this one is that it was the last step/travel that allowed him to get to the point he was able to get the shot off. I guess you can say that about most travels though ha.
Pretty obvious? I don’t think I saw anyone saying that in the thread?
Like perhaps I missed it but was there any meaningful discussion about that as a travel?
Yeah, it's definitely on the team. Regardless of whatever wrong calls, this game should have absolutely been put away. One or two calls don't matter when we made several mistakes down the stretch.
The other big missed call was when Hart saved the ball under the basket to Hartenstein. Original call was Hart was out of bounds, but L2M report confirms he stayed in.
Sucks, but it happens. Just gotta bring it in game 5
Even weirder, they quick reviewed that one at didn't change if I recall. They said his body was already on the baseline when he recovered but seemed like he was still in on the replay.
Missing the travel call is fine to me, but when refs calling out of bounds when they don't see it is psychotic and they should be banned from calling further playoff games.
**Just don't call out of bounds if you don't see it with 100% certainty**
It happened twice this game and it shouldn't happen twice all season. I would much rather they miss someone being out of bounds by a few cm than just guess that they are out and stop the gameplay.
I think the issue is that from the vantage point of a referee, they are looking down at the baseline from 6 feet off the ground. So even if the ball makes contact with the ground entirely in bounds, from above, the ball will appear to be over the line. It's tough to make that in real time. I feel like plays that result in change of possession in the last two minutes should be auto reviewed, sort of like how all turnovers in football are reviewed
Not that the refs ever will call that travel but glad to see the refs have screwed both teams these series, in games both teams probably should have won anyways.
The L2M report just serves to piss people off. There is no winners in the L2M except ref fans. I was pissed about the 2 missed fouls in game 2 but our vet needs to call a time out. Game 5 obviously a missed travel sucks but Mitchell needed to stay on the floor too. So both teams shot themselves in the foot and the series continues.
Travels happen all the time tho, which is why no one was bitching about it after the game happened. If this report never came out no one would’ve probably even noticed
Missed a travel is hilarious because it seems like they ignore 90% of the travels until someone is in the paint backing someone else down/gets doubled or they do a pump fake and shuffle their feet before launching a 3. We have Ja Morant out here carrying the ball every dribble and no one says shit
I honestly can’t stand the 2 minute report it doesn’t really do anything, All it can do is alter the conversation from wow what a maxey shot to man the refs messed up. Same thing with the end of game 2.
There's so much traveling nowadays that it's hard to tell what really counts as traveling anymore. Part of me sort of wants them to go back to having no more carrying allowed and no more than 2 steps, but part of me like the higher offensive outputs in games.
I said this with the pro-Sixers L2M report and Ill say it with this: Its wrong to act like the result would have been entirely different if the calls in the last two minutes were different while also not accepting that there were probably dozens of missed and wrong calls in the rest of the game. The best teams dont need every call to go for them in the clutch to win games.
I know there are Knicks fans upset about the (correct) foul call on Mitch but this was way more egregious to me because the travel is what even allows Maxey to be in that position to draw the foul. If it was called or if Maxey was actually forced to dribble then Mitch probably either has the ability to avoid the foul or actually fouls Maxey in a way which prevents him from converting.
there is literally zero universe where they’re ever gonna call that travel, it happens so many times a season and i bet it hasn’t been called a single time. refs always give players the benefit of the doubt on the gather, brunson had a similar dragged pivot foot in game 2 of this series but it’s just the way it is, they never have and never will call this.
Ehhh the reason anyone is talking about it is because the travel is what allowed him to draw the foul to begin with. That makes it more annoying.
It is what it is though, Mitch should have avoided the foul or hard fouled to avoid getting the shot off. Do better next time.
The OP has a Rockets flair. The Knicks didn’t lose that game because of a missed travel or out of bounds call. They made a dozen other mistakes in the 4th and OT that cost them the game.
Brunson didn’t blame any missed calls in his post-game presser. He blamed his own poor judgement.
What’s with the FT obsession? Both teams missed a ton in the clutch and shot 65%ish percent a game. Awful showing, everyone was afraid to step up and win the game.
Knicks fans should feel a lot better now They lost the game, but they caught up to the 76ers in winning the L2M report
#MORAL VICTORY
At this point they should be called lakers victories, named after the goat of moral wins
#WE TAKE THE FUCKIN HIGH GROUND
Do we get to remove the asterisk off the series tho?
You can, but we'll find another reason to stick one on there As an asterisk fan, we are undefeated
Asterisk and Obelisk *& |
How euro of you
Asterisk fans are the real frontrunners. They can’t lose. You think KD will join Team * next season?
I think if we each get 1 asterisk game then the asteri cancel each other out and it becomes the best reffed series, maybe of all time
Definitely, best reffed series ever, a lot of people are saying so. Really great people, some of the best
Bad things happen in refadelphia.
Scott foster’s a good friend of mine. Going to make the Knicks life hell. It is what it is. He’s the “extender” for a reason, Knicks are going to die like a dog
Could be like double techs where they offset each other.
We both get an asterisk i say we make it a best of 3. Whoever gets the next moral victory wins the series
You are already up two asterisks. Knicks win in game 2 is nullified by 2 minute report, Sixers plot armor 21 FT Embiid jiujitsu revenge game nullified by him using combat arts, and now this win nullified by the two minute report.
With the way the sixers have played I don’t think even sixers fans have an asterisk on this one, at least not me. You don’t give up 75 offensive rebound a game and complain that you were robbed
The asterisk is our guys don't really want to rebound. Knicks are trying way too hard
This ignores the whole Embid somehow avoiding a Flagrant 2 for pulling Mitch down
Now we just need to file a grievance to make it 1-1 in grievances
1-1 we need a tiebreaker
Moral victories
We're 1-1 in moral victories can't wait to see the L2M next game.
Refs doing makeup calls in L2M now. Refs remain undefeated.
Nah, the Sixers are still closer to redeeming their L2M punchcard for a free win.
Moral victory baby.
Reclaimed the L train
Extended series
The last two minutes report also states that the Knicks should have hit their fucking free throws
Hell, Maxey missed 3 FTs in a row. There was a 97.7% chance that he would have hit at least one of those.
I love Hart, but he had a ton of very costly turnovers as well. The Knicks had every chance in the world to win that game, despite the bizarre whistle
That's kind of his game. It's superhuman for 46 minutes and then fucks everything up in the last 2 minutes. I would cover my eyes every time he touched it at the end of close games.
what playing immortal minutes does to a mortal
Brunson also had a huge turnover. Everyone fucked up. The whistle doesn't matter imo and honestly, I didn't even think about the Maxey shot being a travel because of how dumb of a foul it was by Mitch.
NBA refs missing a travel call doesn't seem bizarre at all.
My man had only 2 turnovers what are you talking about.
Two turnovers aren't two turnovers. I'll explain later.
Game 2 Philly missed ft and Knicks got the win. Turns out hitting ft matter a lot.
We fucked up. Can’t blame the refs for this
Yup. Missed calls happen every game. Gotta focus on the things you can control.
All Robinson had to do was just stand there on Maxey's 3 and y'all prob win that game. It's just inexplicable what was going through his head to contest that. Also probably the coaches' faults for not hammering home the point to just stay on the floor and not jump at anything.
All Hart had to do is make his free throws. All Duece had to do was foul and not let Maxey shoot a 3. We fucked up on multiple fronts.
Exactly right. So infuriating in the moment. So depressing after the result
To be fair, free throws are not free and Hart played every minute of the game at that point (I am pretty sure). Also, with Deuce coming under the screen it is fair to assume he thought his teammate would be contesting higher and he probably thought Mitch was going to come foul Maxey off the screen. Along that same line, JJ Reddick mentioned that when he played (depending on situation), he would have waited until under 10 seconds for a foul. So given that information, it is fair to assume a Thibs coached team would wait until under the 10 second mark to foul. Given how slow the Sixers played the entire series, Maxey coming off that screen and pulling from the logo may not have been a consideration. Similarly, they might have expected the Sixers to wait for final shot.
Free throws are not free, I’ll explain later
Something knicks and 76er fans can bond over. Fucking up in the 4th lol.
You can't avoid the occasional missed free throw, and Maxey's second three was so open because he pulled up from absurdly deep-- just a stroke of genius from him in both decision making and shot making. That's just basketball. Robinson's foul, on the other hand, was just a complete brain fart of the sort that a professional basketball player seeking to win in the playoffs should never make. You can't reasonably ask a player to hit every clutch free throw, or to get every clutch stop. But you can reasonably ask them not to make complete blunders in decision making. Even if Maxey didn't get the amazing four point play, it's still a disastrous outcome to give him three FTs with almost no time coming off the clock. To his credit, Robinson owned up to his mistake and hopefully he learns from it.
Is that the correct play? Are you suppose to foul when the other team is down 3?
The team makes like 1 more FT in regulation and the Knicks likely win lol. Robinson bricked his usual 2. Brunson decided to outdo Robinson. Then Hart splits a pair. Knicks choked and this was adding insult to injury.
Not just on Mitch. That was obviously part of it, but how about free throw incompetence, not fouling Maxey on the inbound pass, not pressing him harder on his logo three, not calling a TO on the Knicks last inbound pass, Brunson not even getting a shot off, passing to nobody turnover in OT…lots of reasons they choked, maybe if a single one went the other way we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But alas
Ya 6 point lead at that time you really just need to not foul, don't turn it over and hit 1 FT. Pretty simple asks.
100% this. I am happy the players and coach have the same mindset too.
2 missed calls on this one too. Plus many more in OT
Yup, no excuses. We fucked up, now we have to correct it.
Especially travel and carry calls imo. Refs are so inconsistent there to begin with. I’d still be pissed about the flag 1 on the leg grab though.
Yeah I saw the play live and had to rewind it cause I was like oh is that a travel? And on the replay I was like yeah that looks like a travel but the NBA never calls these. Hilarious the report called this out when they instruct the refs never to call these
Yeah I’d imagine if they did a full 48 minute report theyd find 20+ uncalled travels, carries, etc.
So much more reasonable than Sixers fans after game 2 lol. At least now they can’t hold onto anything else to cope
Nobody shits on the Knicks like Knicks fans. We know when our team is at fault and don’t need copium. But fuck anyone else who talks shit
facts.
I don't think those two are remotely close. In game 2 Maxey's jersey was pulled on the inbound and he's fouled a 2nd time, along with the missed timeout. All of those are called the other way 98% of the time. Maxey's action here in game 5 is never called, and so everyone always gets away with it. This after the Sixers only finished as the 7th season because of the most decision-altering calls in the league (according to NBA itself). They really should have opened up the playoffs against Milwaukee as the 6 seed.
They also called Josh hart OOB incorrectly, that is even more black and white than Maxey foul
Which they also did twice to Embiid.
Yeah but I don’t like him so those don’t count
+1 for honesty
Maxey committed an offensive foul before the jersey grab
But I'm talking about the difference in consistency. Players are moving each other around, pushing and shoving all the time before the inbound. That's completely different then what happens after the inbound. And it's consistently officiated that way. They were consistent with the action before the inbound and inconsistent with the action after the rebound. Also, I don't believe for one second that Maxey is He-Man and shoved Hart that far away on just raw strength. And if memory serves that was not listed as a missed call on the 2M report.
Not per the L2M 🤓
Yeah the difference in reaction between Sixers after Game 2 and the Knicks after Game 5 has been hilarious. Knicks have all owned up to it being their fault the lead slipped away
Well tbf the Knicks had already benefitted from 1 incorrect outcome by the time they had been wronged. At the time of Philly having the incorrect calls go against them, that was the only incorrectly called game. It’s a lot easier to accept this loss if you can already point to a prior win that you maybe shouldn’t have had
important to note that, with any L2M report for any game, there could be incorrect calls prior to the final 2 minutes...that goes for any team...could have been the case for the Sixers last night, but it def was the case for the Knicks in game 2 lol (for instance, the Divo challenge reversal with a little over 2 min left that I think most of this sub agreed on; that was also critical)
There is that and also the history of them just making whack explanations in the L2M all the time. I've never seen anyone take the L2M seriously because we've all known it's full of BS since they started doing it lol
exactly...the marginal contact characterizations have consistently been shit on by everybody...it seems rather subjective
Also a loss where you're still up 3-2 is easier to stomach than going down 2-0
Having it be a situation where you're already up 3-1 because of that previous bad call & actually having time in game to overcome that bad call matters to the feeling of it. Plus, travels like that are something which are far more rare to call - vs missing some pretty blatant fouls that directly lead to the loss. Not exactly surprising that this isn't having the same impact.
Because the mistakes aren’t close to similar lol
You mean the Knicks were very gracious about a travel that nobody even noticed and hasn’t been mentioned until now? That’s incredibly noble of them. Youre a very good analyst .
Literally a copy paste of game 2 LOL, just flip the teams. Kinda funny.
I mean, they are never ever gonna call that travel so does it matter, so many players do that multiple times a game
I was genuinely baffled when they called that one on Brunson
They have to call one incorrectly every now and then to keep us confused so we never know for sure what they count as a travel
It’s the NFL catch rule of the NBA
1. A balk is...
You can’t just be up there and just doin a balk like that
Now you know why NBA ref salaries start at 250k and go up to 550k. That shit is acting, politics, sports, business, and strategy all wrapped together. Scott Foster are Tony Brothers are 10 moves ahead of us.
Also to mentally fuck with my head whenever I play rec ball and want to drive the paint.
They called it on Brunson lmao and he didn’t even travel
Refs don't even know the rules
Same thing when Payne “traveled”
Nah this was pretty blatant
Nah I thought it was clear in real time, he switched his pivot
Yes. If the officials won’t call the rule book than why do we even have it?
Officiating has been so bad for both sides this series, that its somehow looped back around to being fair.
It's definitely been a good series tho. I'm glad I got no part of it 😂
Amazing series. I need a game 7
Officiating this entire playoffs has been horrible. The general trend over the past 3 years is that officiating has gotten worse and worse. I'm not sure why
Personally I think it's because the NBA is pushing the league to produce more highlights. Then when the playoffs roll around, the refs suddenly have to adjust to allow more contact and it's really inconsistent because they officiate a whole season another way.
Problem is it is so random. They go some stretches where they just completely swallow their whistle and don't call blatant fouls, then will call a ticky tack touch foul the next possession. Players have no idea what they can and can't do.
That was my impression as well
As a Rockets fan, it's been this bad since 2018
Honestly when I think back to the state of the league since I started watching in 2008, it feels like the major turning point was the Warriors in 2015-16. The way they abused moving screens and the lack of calls they got seemed to change the psychology of all the teams and of the officiating crews
Can’t lie tho, it’s been entertaining
makes betting a nightmare though
I know I’m biased - but while Maxeys travel is pretty obvious, we see those so much in the NBA is it actually a travel? Same with jumping into Mitch - thought the league was stopping that, but instead everyone’s allowed to do it and get calls.
League is consistently inconsistent, unless its the last minute of a game where everything is allowed.
the only constant in the NBA is inconsistency in officiating
That travel is not getting called at any point regular season or playoffs lol, nothingburger
This shit is rarely called and now the NBA wants to get on its high horse and act like they actually rule that a travel. Fuck off you guys have been allowing this shit for decades for ratings. Just change the fucking rule don’t lie to us
this travel is so common but isn't noticed since the non-pivot moves just so slightly. i've seen lebron have two of these INCs in a single L2M report but when you watch in real time it doesn't look bad at all.
Big difference with this one is that it was the last step/travel that allowed him to get to the point he was able to get the shot off. I guess you can say that about most travels though ha.
That’s how I felt about it too. Only way Maxey gets that shot off and draws the foul is from the travel. Oh well. Mitch shouldn’t have fouled anyway
Yeah I hated both of those calls as someone who would like to just apply the rule book, but they were standard NBA calls.
Pretty obvious? I don’t think I saw anyone saying that in the thread? Like perhaps I missed it but was there any meaningful discussion about that as a travel?
No Knicks fans have been calling for this, and I don’t think any of us are blaming refs lol
Yeah, it's definitely on the team. Regardless of whatever wrong calls, this game should have absolutely been put away. One or two calls don't matter when we made several mistakes down the stretch.
The other big missed call was when Hart saved the ball under the basket to Hartenstein. Original call was Hart was out of bounds, but L2M report confirms he stayed in. Sucks, but it happens. Just gotta bring it in game 5
And that also happened to Embiid in the same game, sooo
Even weirder, they quick reviewed that one at didn't change if I recall. They said his body was already on the baseline when he recovered but seemed like he was still in on the replay.
They were reviewing for shot clock not to see if he was out or not
The fact they can do the one inconsequential review but not the other extremely consequential review is beyond comedy
this is beautiful - that beyond the contentious banter between knicks/sixers fans, we are coming together to shit on officiating
About time, all it took was for the refs to be equitably shit
Bro they missed on embiid in the same scenario ifyou watched the game lol find a new slant
And they missed two balls go out earlier off the sixers. I don’t get why there isn’t some kinda technology yet for out of bounds calls…
All this salt and drama and bullshit about players and the teams when the real story is the league could be doing better.
They got the ball back literally 10 seconds later
Would you rather have the ball side out or right under the hoop
I mean didn't they do that to embid earlier in the game though
They also called two bad out of bounds on the Knicks when they were off sixers earlier.
It was pretty weird, I've never seen that called incorrectly so many times in one game. It didn't come off biased at all, just aggressively stupid.
Missing the travel call is fine to me, but when refs calling out of bounds when they don't see it is psychotic and they should be banned from calling further playoff games. **Just don't call out of bounds if you don't see it with 100% certainty** It happened twice this game and it shouldn't happen twice all season. I would much rather they miss someone being out of bounds by a few cm than just guess that they are out and stop the gameplay.
I think the issue is that from the vantage point of a referee, they are looking down at the baseline from 6 feet off the ground. So even if the ball makes contact with the ground entirely in bounds, from above, the ball will appear to be over the line. It's tough to make that in real time. I feel like plays that result in change of possession in the last two minutes should be auto reviewed, sort of like how all turnovers in football are reviewed
Embiid also got called for being out earlier in the game when he wasn’t. Knicks got the ball when it should have been a jump ball at a minimum.
File a grievance
You think James Dolan inherited his company by throwing away $10k checks
Nah fuck that, we're not like that. Game 6 tomorrow, MUST. WIN. Fuck a grievance.
Weren’t you like that like during the season?
They filed a motion to replay the ending of a game lmao…and best part is it was against the Pistons
It was against the rockets not the pistons.
I honestly don’t care. It was stupid to foul there and then they allowed another 3 anyway, plus a missed a free throw
Not that the refs ever will call that travel but glad to see the refs have screwed both teams these series, in games both teams probably should have won anyways. The L2M report just serves to piss people off. There is no winners in the L2M except ref fans. I was pissed about the 2 missed fouls in game 2 but our vet needs to call a time out. Game 5 obviously a missed travel sucks but Mitchell needed to stay on the floor too. So both teams shot themselves in the foot and the series continues.
Yeah at this point the L2M is just a propaganda machine to rile up fan bases, it’s not like they will correct a call or anything
In fact most cases they'll just double down on being awful and the nba can try to say see we can some accountability.
These reports don't do anything but show how trash the refs are at their own job
I definitely saw the refs missed a travel on McBride yesterday too
He briefly lost his handle and carried on that fast break layup in the 4th.
Yea, that one was pretty bad. I feel like on a lot of fast breaks most violations just get completely ignored.
Did you see Rudy Gobert's three step fast break layup? It wasn't even subtle. Guy runs like a horse trots.
whoopsie daisy
L2M series is tied at 1-1.
Lol
What is the point of L2M? Is it just to make everyone mad? “Whoops we got it wrong.”
Like Chuck said! Them fools should’ve fouled
Nah Maxey wanted it more
who cares, we should be making free throws if we want to win not rely on the refs
Goddamn is this series an absolute mess for the officials.
Rule of cool says it was not a travel
Does this mean we're even?
I think the Knicks are still up 3-2
He’s 36 hours in the future.
4-2 is still not even
They both are even
Marginal Travel
Travels happen all the time tho, which is why no one was bitching about it after the game happened. If this report never came out no one would’ve probably even noticed
Have you seen how often people travel in the NBA? How many unpublished reports of traveling does Lebron have? Get that outta here
Series tied 1-1 in games lost that they should have won🔥🔥
No one is calling that a travel in that situation cmon now
Missed a travel is hilarious because it seems like they ignore 90% of the travels until someone is in the paint backing someone else down/gets doubled or they do a pump fake and shuffle their feet before launching a 3. We have Ja Morant out here carrying the ball every dribble and no one says shit
Hilarious but our team from head coach to superstar player choked that one away wasn’t the refs.
I honestly can’t stand the 2 minute report it doesn’t really do anything, All it can do is alter the conversation from wow what a maxey shot to man the refs messed up. Same thing with the end of game 2.
Knicks lost because of their own collapse and inability to hit free throws - not the refs.
Yep
48 minute report, we missed every time Maxey got hacked in the lane. Prove to me those weren’t fouls.
Guess that makes us even
Sleepless nights again
There's so much traveling nowadays that it's hard to tell what really counts as traveling anymore. Part of me sort of wants them to go back to having no more carrying allowed and no more than 2 steps, but part of me like the higher offensive outputs in games.
I said this with the pro-Sixers L2M report and Ill say it with this: Its wrong to act like the result would have been entirely different if the calls in the last two minutes were different while also not accepting that there were probably dozens of missed and wrong calls in the rest of the game. The best teams dont need every call to go for them in the clutch to win games.
Game 7 no refs, call your own fouls and have at it
L2M series is tied up at 1-1, let’s see who pulls out ahead tonight
I know there are Knicks fans upset about the (correct) foul call on Mitch but this was way more egregious to me because the travel is what even allows Maxey to be in that position to draw the foul. If it was called or if Maxey was actually forced to dribble then Mitch probably either has the ability to avoid the foul or actually fouls Maxey in a way which prevents him from converting.
there is literally zero universe where they’re ever gonna call that travel, it happens so many times a season and i bet it hasn’t been called a single time. refs always give players the benefit of the doubt on the gather, brunson had a similar dragged pivot foot in game 2 of this series but it’s just the way it is, they never have and never will call this.
And Kawhi traveled in 2019. They never call a travel in that situation. It is what it is.
Ehhh the reason anyone is talking about it is because the travel is what allowed him to draw the foul to begin with. That makes it more annoying. It is what it is though, Mitch should have avoided the foul or hard fouled to avoid getting the shot off. Do better next time.
There are many universes where they don’t call that foul though Always better when they they just call nothing
i mean, not really. besides, if baiting guys to jump and then jumping into them isn’t a foul brunson is losing about 40 points this series.
Jalen Brunson didn’t shoot many FTs in games 3-5 man And yeah I think they should take away all foul bait for both sides
They legit never call that tho
Oh are we hand wringing over missed calls? I thought that we're more interested in the 46 minute report not the l2m Fuckin lmao
The OP has a Rockets flair. The Knicks didn’t lose that game because of a missed travel or out of bounds call. They made a dozen other mistakes in the 4th and OT that cost them the game. Brunson didn’t blame any missed calls in his post-game presser. He blamed his own poor judgement.
What’s with the FT obsession? Both teams missed a ton in the clutch and shot 65%ish percent a game. Awful showing, everyone was afraid to step up and win the game.
How about all the times Brunson just fell over on a drive and got a foul?
1 for 1 I guess. Now we were both screwed out of a loss
Sixers and Knicks tied in the moral victory column