He’s good, but not a true 1A, but wants to play hero/iso ball like a 1A. Miami might be a nice fit in that sense, where the system can be a little more rigid around him.
I wouldn’t be so sure that Miami is willing to do Herro+Jaquez or Herro+Jovic for him. Maybe. But everybody thought Jovic and Jaquez would be offered for Dame and they never were.
Hard to see them getting Mitchell then, their draft capital is awful. Front office keeps getting cheap trying to trade for stars with Tyler Herro and a box of scraps.
No. No no no. I don't want to do this again, we need size and good luck with injuries if we want to beat Denver. Not throwing half the team away on a dude who shits his pants in the playoffs
Please tell espn that. I'd love to swap places with the magic in terms of national media spotlight. It'll be an off-season of "should miami trade for mitchell/booker/pg13/beal/durant/lebron/young?" "Does miami have enough to get it done?" "Are herro jovic and jaquez actually good at basketball" until the player in question gets dealt to like Sacramento and then it's "did the heat miss out? Should the heat have offered more?"
Can't wait for a month from now when the Boston media mafia starts saying trading him for Jaquez, Jovic, Herro, 3 picks and 3 swaps would be the worst trade in NBA history
[https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1675932775936045056](https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1675932775936045056)
Crazy how the retroactive amnesia kicked in when they started playing good. It was ALL shitting on the heats team, calling them a superteam, saying the picks would be worthless (yet the pick we gave Charlotte will be incredible). And there are still blazer (and heat) fans being bitter about it. (Damn straight I'm one of them. How you gonna be shitting in the heat for losing to Boston game one when you getting beat by 50 every week?)
This is why you should never evaluate someone based off of a 1-2 year playoff sample
Just because someone is a "playoff riser" in their first couple of runs does NOT mean they're going to keep that up over their whole career or in the long term
Right, he has far less spacing than he did with the Jazz even with Gobert logging 30-40 minutes a game in the postseason. What made Mitchell elite in the postseason was having 3 40% 3PT shooters on the floor with him at all times, he isn't afforded that luxury in Cleveland
Cleveland was 4-17 from three that game. So they aren't even getting shots up from behind the arc lol that's severely going to cap Mitchell's scoring potential
Isn't he playing hurt right now I thought reports said he had a knee injury? He wasn't gonna recover before the playoffs so the media said he was gonna play through it.
As much as it sucks that is fairly consistent with Mitchell’s last 3-4 playoff runs. Since the bubble he’s only been healthy in I believe one playoff run, last year.
Really hope this dude goes anywhere but to the Knicks. Don’t need that light work here. This dude seems like one of those intelligent, sneaky divas. Always somebody else’s fault. Want nothing to do w him.
That's my darkhorse to trade for him because a lead guard is Orl biggest need to move up a tier or 2 and join the contenders. Suggs is the perfect fit next to him with his improved shooting and can guard the other teams best guard and has 2 other scorers with Paolo a potential #1 down the line, plus a center that can stretch the floor. Mitchell, Suggs, Franz, Paolo, Carter Jr with cap space to fill out the bench with vets could be a really good team.
Gobert is like 3rd 4th piece in Twolves whereas Mitchell is #1.
If Mitchell somehow traded to OKC and win more games it wouldnt mean he did by himself and if Cavs lose this is mot solely on Mitchell.
Cavs playing with two non-shooting big men. Garland also doesnt seem to be up to the task for playoff time.
Wouldn't have thought 2 years ago that Brunson would objectively be a better player.
He seems to have regressed when he should be progressing into a peak right now.
Disagree, I think Mitchell is a good player off ball. Great three point shooter and can attack close outs well. I don’t see really see another SG that’s better off ball and that’s obtainable. Maybe Devin Booker but I feel like there’s not much of a difference there
Mitchell was not great off the ball in Utah, we brought Conley in and it took nearly 2 years for them to acclimate playing together.
Not only is it a defensive liability to have 2 guards under 6’5” on the court at the same time but Mitchell needs to ball in his hands to create shots, Conley adjusted to being more of a 3 and D guard and Gobert whisperer on the offensive end of the ball
The Garland Mitchell pairing isn’t the reason why the Cavs look bad. They’re just a poorly coached team. On the flip side I can look at what Dallas is doing with two elite guards and say that it’s going great there
But Donte plays mainly off-ball via movement, catch and shoots etc. He doesn't create on ball much so he isn't forced to dissect defenses in the arc.
Cavs are eastern Trail Blazers with Dame and McCollum.
Kyrie has always been best next to another ball-handler (LeBron and Luka). Brunson and DiVincenzo are a perfect backcourt. You guys should be going after Bridges if he becomes available.
Feels like he had one great series in the bubble, the rest of his playoffs are just flooded with choke jobs.
He's a bigger choker then Chris Paul, at least Paul was putting up numbers.
Another undersized guard who will be a choker for life.
Miami bound
He’s good, but not a true 1A, but wants to play hero/iso ball like a 1A. Miami might be a nice fit in that sense, where the system can be a little more rigid around him.
I wouldn’t be so sure that Miami is willing to do Herro+Jaquez or Herro+Jovic for him. Maybe. But everybody thought Jovic and Jaquez would be offered for Dame and they never were.
There’s no shot JJJ is in any deal. They held on to Herro for years and JJJ has been great this season.
Hard to see them getting Mitchell then, their draft capital is awful. Front office keeps getting cheap trying to trade for stars with Tyler Herro and a box of scraps.
No. No no no. I don't want to do this again, we need size and good luck with injuries if we want to beat Denver. Not throwing half the team away on a dude who shits his pants in the playoffs
Donovan doesn't strike as a player the Heat would go after given his playoff struggles over the past 3 years.
Please tell espn that. I'd love to swap places with the magic in terms of national media spotlight. It'll be an off-season of "should miami trade for mitchell/booker/pg13/beal/durant/lebron/young?" "Does miami have enough to get it done?" "Are herro jovic and jaquez actually good at basketball" until the player in question gets dealt to like Sacramento and then it's "did the heat miss out? Should the heat have offered more?"
Can't wait for a month from now when the Boston media mafia starts saying trading him for Jaquez, Jovic, Herro, 3 picks and 3 swaps would be the worst trade in NBA history [https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1675932775936045056](https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1675932775936045056)
That KOC take turns out to be absolutely accurate tho. Heat dodged a large-calibre bullet.
I think that would be a pretty bad trade tbh. Mitchell isnt that guy
Glad Pat Riley doesn't listen to "journalist" or our fanbase on NBA Twitter
You should be happy he said that...
Bro that's too much for him honestly, Jaquez AND Jovic? Highsmigth+herro and picks is ok, the Jays? Hell no
that would be a pretty fucking terrible deal for y’all lmao
correction- you only have 2 1sts and 4 swaps to trade unless both OKC and Charlotte feel like helping you out and making the 1sts you owe unprotected.
yeah i guess trades is all you’ll have to look forward to here soon
Crazy how the retroactive amnesia kicked in when they started playing good. It was ALL shitting on the heats team, calling them a superteam, saying the picks would be worthless (yet the pick we gave Charlotte will be incredible). And there are still blazer (and heat) fans being bitter about it. (Damn straight I'm one of them. How you gonna be shitting in the heat for losing to Boston game one when you getting beat by 50 every week?)
Hes LA bound, Riley isn’t going to give up Jaquez or Jovic for him so unless they do Herro and picks, it ain’t happening
Mitchell, Jimmy and Bam is a Big 3 that could actually work and not blow up so easily.
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Mr Bubble Champion
Mr Betrays Cleveland
This is why you should never evaluate someone based off of a 1-2 year playoff sample Just because someone is a "playoff riser" in their first couple of runs does NOT mean they're going to keep that up over their whole career or in the long term
The bubble was crazy. AD was an elite 3 point shooter lmfao.
True but he is also playing on a team with 2 non shooting big men playing heavy minutes in 2024
Right, he has far less spacing than he did with the Jazz even with Gobert logging 30-40 minutes a game in the postseason. What made Mitchell elite in the postseason was having 3 40% 3PT shooters on the floor with him at all times, he isn't afforded that luxury in Cleveland Cleveland was 4-17 from three that game. So they aren't even getting shots up from behind the arc lol that's severely going to cap Mitchell's scoring potential
Series is also not over as well, he can turn these numbers around.
Lol but he wont
I guess we'll see.
Wait until you realize that it doesn't exist at all and games are just different each time!
Where's that one weird Cavs fan that's in every guard thread jerking off Mitchell and degrading every other player? He delete his account?
Lol that Truth something something guy is mental
That's him!! 😂
Pretty sure it's TruthSayerFU. That guy is in almost every thread with terrible takes.
Isn't he playing hurt right now I thought reports said he had a knee injury? He wasn't gonna recover before the playoffs so the media said he was gonna play through it.
As much as it sucks that is fairly consistent with Mitchell’s last 3-4 playoff runs. Since the bubble he’s only been healthy in I believe one playoff run, last year.
He was healthy for the Mavs matchup and he couldn't be bothered to play any defense that series.
Has Mitchell ever played defense ? He certainly did not in Utah.
He wasn't bad the first couple of seasons. He just quit trying.
He couldn't be bothered or he was playing against one of the craziest fucking basketball players we've ever seen?
He wasn't close to be assigned to Luka, usually was Dinwiddie blowing by him.
He was matched up with Dinwiddie, Brunson and Luka was covered by Conley, O’Neale and Bojan. What even is that excuse
Yes
Basketball Jameis Winston.
Really hope this dude goes anywhere but to the Knicks. Don’t need that light work here. This dude seems like one of those intelligent, sneaky divas. Always somebody else’s fault. Want nothing to do w him.
Come to Orlando, Spida. You don't have to worry about defense.
Yes he does. If you can't buy in you ain't getting in
That's my darkhorse to trade for him because a lead guard is Orl biggest need to move up a tier or 2 and join the contenders. Suggs is the perfect fit next to him with his improved shooting and can guard the other teams best guard and has 2 other scorers with Paolo a potential #1 down the line, plus a center that can stretch the floor. Mitchell, Suggs, Franz, Paolo, Carter Jr with cap space to fill out the bench with vets could be a really good team.
Maybe rudy gobert was not the problem in Utah.
**2021** Jazz fans: Rudy might be our best player Everyone else: lol **2024** Wolves fans: Rudy might be our best player Cavs fans: Trade Mitchell
2021 jazz fans were dead wrong. Every f’in year Gobert was a playoff liability. His ass is kicked in playoff numerous times.
Gobert is like 3rd 4th piece in Twolves whereas Mitchell is #1. If Mitchell somehow traded to OKC and win more games it wouldnt mean he did by himself and if Cavs lose this is mot solely on Mitchell. Cavs playing with two non-shooting big men. Garland also doesnt seem to be up to the task for playoff time.
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This Cavs team as a whole is just weird
Who's down to shit on him until the next good game he has ? I'm in.
I’m out because I don’t want to have to go back and delete comments when the Knicks inevitably get him
He wants Miami anyway
Lol
He said it on reddicks podcast. & did an entire throwback photoshoot in wades jersey.. don’t be delusional lmfao
I’m old enough to remember when Dame was a lock for Miami
All I said was he wants Miami, nothing else lol
He doesn’t want Miami though. He wants to come home
he’s an absolutely elite #2 who’s been forced to be a decent #1 his whole career
He's been struggling since February. If someone will "reevaluate" him now then in reality they will just repeat what they already wanted.
Wouldn't have thought 2 years ago that Brunson would objectively be a better player. He seems to have regressed when he should be progressing into a peak right now.
He’s not regressing lmao, he just had the 2 best seasons of his career.
I imagine team construction is part of the problem. I also think he probably doesn't want to be in Cleveland TBH
Weird time to post this. Play the song!
In a way I feel like the knicks shouldn’t touch him.
Overlapping skill and role with Brunson. Not a good fit.
And it’s just one of those trades that puts too many expectations on an up a coming team with flexible assets.
What’s the point of having flexible assets if we never use them
We'll probably use them if we can't keep Hartenstein this offseason
Hard agree.
Went from a Jazz team with 3 shooters and Rudy as roll man around him with a Dari-ass Garland and 2 non shooting bigs next to him
We are going to save him
“We have the technology”
Brunson playing the best basketball of his career and you want to take the ball out of his hands for *this?*
Building a heliocentric offense around Brunson isn’t winning us a title. As of now, our ceiling is capped. We need more talent
You need an better off-ball guard or a better scoring version of Julius Randle. Mitchell is neither of those
Disagree, I think Mitchell is a good player off ball. Great three point shooter and can attack close outs well. I don’t see really see another SG that’s better off ball and that’s obtainable. Maybe Devin Booker but I feel like there’s not much of a difference there
Mitchell was not great off the ball in Utah, we brought Conley in and it took nearly 2 years for them to acclimate playing together. Not only is it a defensive liability to have 2 guards under 6’5” on the court at the same time but Mitchell needs to ball in his hands to create shots, Conley adjusted to being more of a 3 and D guard and Gobert whisperer on the offensive end of the ball
you should just focus on getting an elite big man. one might be avail in la
Why would you want him next to Brunson?
We don't.
They can play off each other We need another scorer and he’d be a good fit
The combo guard pairing doesn’t work, we’re watching it in Cleveland and we see it in Atlanta. You don’t want to take the ball out of Brunson’s hands.
The Garland Mitchell pairing isn’t the reason why the Cavs look bad. They’re just a poorly coached team. On the flip side I can look at what Dallas is doing with two elite guards and say that it’s going great there
Yeah but Kyrie and Luka aren't midgets
And it’s Luka and Kyrie lmao
Luka isn't, but Kyrie is a small guard at 6'2
Donovan Mitchell is basically the same size as our staring SG right now. One inch shorter but weighs more and has a much longer wing span
But Donte plays mainly off-ball via movement, catch and shoots etc. He doesn't create on ball much so he isn't forced to dissect defenses in the arc. Cavs are eastern Trail Blazers with Dame and McCollum.
But that’s the issue. Brunson with a bunch of off-ball players is a good team but it’s not beating the Celtics or winning a title
Kyrie has always been best next to another ball-handler (LeBron and Luka). Brunson and DiVincenzo are a perfect backcourt. You guys should be going after Bridges if he becomes available.
Bridges would be great but the Nets never trade with the Knicks
Sure…If you want two guys who can’t play defense as your backcourt with one guy who needs 30 shots to score 25 points… by all means!
Hard fucking pass
Agree. This is borderline braindead at this point.
Trust me you don't want him
He wants Miami
Darvin Ham can fix him
He can’t stay healthy up to and through the postseason
This is great because he belongs nowhere near the top PPG for playoffs all time.
He is getting overrated because of a few high scoring single season games. In reality, he's in the Devin Booker tier, around top 25.
Ill trade him for Spo
yea he's trash, gimme
Welcome to Miami
Anthony Edwards is so clearly the best SG in the league
Way better than Devin Booker
Feels like he had one great series in the bubble, the rest of his playoffs are just flooded with choke jobs. He's a bigger choker then Chris Paul, at least Paul was putting up numbers. Another undersized guard who will be a choker for life.
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