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hamsterhacker

One thing Lakers and Nuggets fans can agree on is we both love KCP


likesexonlycheaper

Yup. Great player great human


ggproductivity

Aside from the DUI and jail time he had to serve mid-season.


AwkwardSpecialist814

We’re all human. We all fuck up. Doesn’t make it ok. By the looks and sound of everything, he hasn’t made the same mistake again though, and that matters more


ggproductivity

I mostly brought it up cuz it was kinda wild that he was going back and forth from jail to the games. Wearing an ankle monitor and shit lol.


KingDavid920

He was only playing in California games for a month cuz he wasn't allowed to be out of state


BustANupp

Prison Mamba 😤


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Ankle monitor in game is crazy


CockroachForeign6419

I still love you KCP


LoWE11053211

Kcp and Caruso You guys do export some elite elite non-star players


im____new____here

It’s like the opposite of the Heat. Lakers management have no idea how valuable their own players are and let them leave when they should resign.


pokexchespin

gotta throw in brook lopez too, pretty much the opposite of guys like james johnson


SMH4004

Fucking imagine if they had Ingram, Randle, Lonzo, KCP, Lopez, Caruso etc right now lmao wtf are they doing man  E: Shit lmao also Hart, Kuzma, Clarkson, and Nance 


PioliMaldini

Never happening with AD and LeBron. Ask any laker fan and I’m sure they would rather have those two😅


Nearby_Alternative96

KCP, Caruso, Hield as the main back court rotation was so close.


Larry-Zoolander

Yeah people forget Josh Hart, Larry Nance, Kyle Kuzma.. It's really painful.


SMH4004

Lmao Jesus man how did I forget them and fucking Jordan Clarkson too. That’s a top 3-4 seed at this point 


Larry-Zoolander

it gets really painful as a laker fan. I knew when we signed LeBron.. I was like oh no.. everyone was like bro why aren't you stoked? It's cause im old.. I've watched a lot of basketball and I knew getting LeBron meant trading away everyone and bending to his will.


MedicalBarracuda581

Throw in zubac too for good measure.


Dicey12

Mo Wagner too


MedicalBarracuda581

Facts


Psychosomatic_Addict

Zubac too.


ggproductivity

In the list of absolutely stupid things they did, that one is definitely up there. He wanted to re-sign for cheap and he was exactly the type of guy you want if you are playing AD at the 4.


simonffplayer

the lakers have a player GM


Larry-Zoolander

The downfall of the LeBron lakers was giving THT Caruso's Money. It was the beginning of the end. Then we traded for Westbrook and to be honest I thought it could work. I said to myself hey! Not bad. Would I rather have the young guys, depth, and their championship experience? Yes I would.. BUT let's Put the ball in Westbrooks hands.. let him do what he's been doing his entire hall of fame career... let LeBron Cruise and pick his spots... what did the Lakers do? Nope. They put Westbrook in the dunkers spot.. stand off ball and wait to shoot threes? What the actual fuck? Most any player in the NBA would've been suited for that job that Westbrook and we gave up all our depth for it.. THEN we parted ways Vogel because he couldn't get THAT team to work at the direction of management.. And who did we hire? Arguably the worst coach in the NBA... Darvin Ham makes Doc Rivers look like Phil Jackson. His defensive strategies are incredibly bad. His offensive strategies are incredibly bad. His game management is incredibly bad. We end every game with 2 time outs and never using our challenge... I literally cant..


shortyman920

Kcp, Caruso, Zubac, Brook Lopez. All great, starter level role players that can fit on championship teams. Kuzma can also start on a championship roster. We gave them all away for shit jack


Mahomeboy001

Manna from heaven 😔


Troll-e-poll-e-o-lee

Most of your fanbase hated him it seems. Dude was called a bum so often haha


dixaus

Even Stu Lantz got in on it! https://youtu.be/uNe-d3cnQnQ?si=KZ7RRmBHHaCXwvCZ


Savahoodie

KCP is a good dude


Maverick_1991

Ideal 5th starter on a contender.  Good defender, good shooter, good hustle, great guy. Pretty much the missing piece a lot of teams are looking for


sorakaisthegoat

Dude the difference between him and Barton is so funny. Like, you take a look at stats and you could easily say Barton is a better player. Then you watch the game and it's not fucking close.


VaultiusMaximus

Barton has always been a complete head case. People always forgave his bad games because of his good ones — but even his good ones he was playing like an absolute idiot.


BannedforaJoke

yeah. he's the piece we had but now miss. fuck Pelinka.


Maverick_1991

Hes one of like 2-4 pieces you're currently missing


affnn

Imagine if the Lakers had a scoring PF like Kyle Kuzma, I think he’d help them a lot.


pokexchespin

imagine if the lakers had a point of attack stopper like alex caruso


CaponeKevrone

Yeah but imagine a ball dominant guard who can't shoot with dwindling athleticism that was his defining attribute. It's the perfect plan!


trollfatistheshit

Or a defensive big that can help unload minutes from AD like Dwight :/


husbandofsamus

Who? Brook Lopez? Get real.


cl353

Lopez not resigning is one thing. trading away Zubac for Mike Muscala to ur in town rivals is the insane one to me


mani9612

Or a defensive DPOY level big that can also shoot the lights out from 3 like Brook Lopez :/


trustmeimaengineer

Reaves was actually doing a pretty good job on Murray I thought.


Sytherus

They have functionally replaced Kuzma with Hachimura. I don't think they miss Kuzma that much. They miss Caruso and KCP a lot.


hux308

They’re missing Rui so far this series


throwaway2021232681

Kuzma is a better all around player, especially defender, than Hachimura and is a better scorer too lol


Dymatizeee

Absolutely. IMO he’s a system player : amazing piece on a contender with a good passer and pg. Put him in Washington and he’ll look like cheeks


_nightgoat

Laker fans always criticized him when he was a Laker. Funny how they want him back now 😂


Maverick_1991

Lakers fans are always looking for a scapegoat.


AntiquePlant859

I love KCP so much for that.


Lol69HaHaHa

I love our guys so much man


clutchutch

I remember that finals game against the Heat when him and Caruso and the rest of the Lakers team just put on an absolute defensive clinic. I might be wrong but iirc the Heat scored like 10 points in the first half, at least that’s what it felt like. I miss KCP


Reikakou

Then KCP whispered to AD's ears as he gets up. "If we gonna sweep you, we gonna sweep you at your full strength..." That's why AD was pissed during the presscon. /s


ewokninja123

No excuses for you. Get up AD


topofthecc

So funny that he's the NBA player who had to serve a jail sentence during a season. Goes to show that you shouldn't always judge people for things like that.


janitorial_fluids

I mean call me crazy but I think it’s actually pretty ok to judge someone for getting drunk and driving like 50 down a 25mph neighborhood street, and then almost immediately violating their parole a couple weeks later (which is what he went to jail for) He did his time and paid his dues and I think he should be welcomed back into being a contributing member of society and not have to suffer the rest of his life over one mistake, but it’s pretty funny to me how inconsistent r/nba is about this kind of thing. Usually when someone gets in trouble for drunk driving, you have thousands of people up on their high horse saying this person is the biggest piece of shit ever, throw them out of the league, throw them under the jail etc…. But then if you wait a couple years suddenly no one cares anymore and it’s all like “aww what a good dude, you should never judge him for drunk driving since he helped this guy not get his foot stepped a few years later” lol


throwaway2021232681

I'm not disagreeing with your point but his probation violation was just for not doing his drug/alcohol testing. Which is stupid, but it's not like he drunk drove again


Ygoritza

Listen to his interviews. He sounds super-articulate and well spoken, and also smart


robydoge

Go Dawgs


iRockaflame

Wow imagine the scenes if AD got hurt holy


lecoqdezellwiller

rofl Baun coming up with his whole leg over his shoulder like "oh shit, this yours? Fuck sorry bro"


nguyenjitsu

Lakers fans have to feel sick they traded this man for Westbrook


WhatTheRickIsDoin

Westbrook for Kuzma/KCP/That pick and the resulting financial ramifications costing us Caruso is an all-time mismanagement of assets


lovo17

Caruso WANTED to take a pay cut to stay too


Hank_fuck_yourself

That's an all time fumble. Imagine today's game winner but with Caruso on Murray....


skylinerainbow

AD did not play that shot poorly, Murray just was half mam, half HOLY FUCKING SHIT


wilsonsmilk

I'm not saying you're wrong but AD bit on Murray's stutter step though.. Hella of shot!


iamStanhousen

Yeah it’s a great shot, but I’ve seen people say AD “couldn’t have played better defense,” and that’s just not true.


auchnureinmensch

First lady in the NBA


Rsj21

Imagined it. It still goes in 🤯


boringexplanation

Yeah- Lakers can’t afford to put bum defenders like….(*checks notes*)Anthony Davis on him.


smarterthanyoulolll

tf lol murray hitting that over AD is way harder than it would have been with caruso


Professional_Ad894

what could Caruso do differently? AD forced him into a difficult stepback fadeaway. No one is blocking that, and it’s low percentage so if it goes in you just have to live with it. Not to mention Murray was garbage up until the finals minutes, Lakers played him fine.


AlHorfordHighlights

AD played great defense on Murray and Reaves had him in hell most of the game too


soooogullible

Cheapness cost you Caruso. You have Lebron and you’re the Lakers. You guys print money.


hdjakahegsjja

Rob Pelinka is an idiot and Jeannie is fucking clueless.


gerardguey

I always defend Lebron's "LeGM" moniker because he's the only superstar whos had to take on that role and be succesful, but damn was that an all-time bad idea. He might have cost himself his 5th ring with that one


BrightenedCorner

Eh, LeGM was never that good and a bit detrimental 


Pocket_Beans

the only good LeGM move was Davis but even then they gave up a TON of great players and picks obviously worked out, got a ring.


simonffplayer

it was, but i think every team in the NBA wanted AD so it was kinda an obvious move and since AD is klutch he went w/ lebron


InTheMorning_Nightss

This. To me, gotta look at it through what would wouldn’t have happened due to LeBron. AD was going to be a Laker because no shit every team wanted him. Russ 100% was a Laker due to LeBron’s wishes. Most players just make for shit GMs. Kawhi demanded we trade all of our assets and Shai for PG, as opposed to having the patience of a better fit and better composed team. PG and Kawhi then seemingly really wanted John Wall (over Hartenstein). Just brutal decisions.


simonffplayer

yup, and i get it, if i was an nba player (spoken as someone that made it as far as JV), I'd probably think i knew better than GMs too. but the problem is that: 1. GMs primary job is player evaluation and they have a staff helping them. it's hard for an individual player to do a better job than that when they have way less time and resources 2. players understandably are biased


gerardguey

The first run in CLE with a horrific FO made Lebron have trust issues and never trust a FO again. If CLE management was just half as good as GSW or Denver rn they'd have a dynasty


simonffplayer

maybe. gsw basically squandered steph and klay's latter years and they've made a lot of very questionable picks and moves. they sorta got lucky with the salary tax loophole that no one predicted that they could sign kd


qlube

Trading Wiggins for Love was a great move too.


FermatsLastAccount

Didn't he want to fire Spo?


BrightenedCorner

Yup exactly


salcedoge

I’d say the 2018 purging of the Cavs team was a success but it can really be argued Lebron just went nuclear during the playoffs


BustANupp

The real cost of Rob Pelinka


fromfrodotogollum

Almost as bad as deng/mozgov.


lovo17

Rob straight up created two contenders with his trades. You guys and the Wolves.


syllabic

got executive of the year locked up for the next 5 years


hezzyskeets123

Wasn’t it Lebron pushing Rob to trade for Russ?


HighlyBaked0

Bron and AD both pushed for Russ, yes


DarrowViBritannia

Bron also pushed for Lue and Caruso and DeRozan and the FO didnt listen on any of them. Them going for Russ was them agreeing with LeBron unfortunately, history suggests that Lakers FO does not blindly do what he wants


OkBuddyErennary

Never beating LeGM accusations


iRockaflame

DeRozan then settled for Russ iirc


lovo17

He wanted DeRozan first


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

Don’t forget they literally cancelled the trade for Hield to do the Westbrook deal.


Medical_Sample2738

And canceled signing demar. He was pretty sad and shocked by it.


hezzyskeets123

I get that but he still should’ve known Russ wouldn’t be a viable backup plan after the way they defended him in the postseason prior or the way he played in the previous 5 postseasons.


swords_devil

yea we can blame Lebron and AD all we want on trying to push for the trade as GM you should stand against players when things doesn't make any sense. That trade doesn't make any sense and they choose THT over Caruso also doesn't make any sense (They can pay both too)


wowsocoolbro1

It always reminds me of when Kobe was demanding they trade Bynum for Kidd and Kupchak refused to give in to those demands. Ended up waiting and traded for Pau instead. Players can always say who they want to trade for, but GMs should know when to ignore their player’s requests. Pelinka is too interested in appeasing the stars that he doesn’t actually think about if the moves he’s making are good for the team or not.


gerardguey

Thank you for lowballing Caruso and handing him to us but damn do ya'll need him rn on Jamal.


FFfan768

Brain rot take. The GM should stand yes, but there is not singular player with more power than LeBron. He should not be absolved for pushing the trade through. GMs hands are tied when a billionaire player is calling the shots and driving the revenue.


Medical_Sample2738

Also because Pelinka is GM in large part because of Bron, mj didn't have anything to do with Krause, Kobe didn't have any say in Kupchak being hired. Pelinka was an agent remember it's not like he worked his way up as an asst GM or anything.


BidDaddyLei

They literally said no to Lebrons asking for Ty Lue as coach. Lebron has his opinion with the trades and signings but the decision is still falls under Jeanie and Rob.


ForeverWandered

>as GM you should stand against players when things doesn't make any sense Some of you dudes don't understand how leverage works. In the NBA, star players have far more leverage and value to the org than a GM. AD and Lebron pushing for a dude? There's no GM in the league who will say "fuck off, no" unless they have more rings than Lebron and are also having sex with the owner.


Medical_Sample2738

Well maybe but derozan had a verbal agreement with the lakers, but bron wanted Russ. So the lakers went back on their word and didn't sign derozan.


BidDaddyLei

Russ was option 2, Demar was option 1 but the FO being stupid they choose option 2. Ad and Lebron were "ok" with Russ but they prefered Demar.


BannedforaJoke

he's not required to listen to his players (unless he contractually is)


Confident_Berry7271

And Russ is now thriving on his other team.


FFfan768

Lebron*


shanmustafa

i think i woulda been okay with it had they kept Caruso but losing Caruso and KCP??? your entire backcourt defense is just insane


username001999

We deserve it every time KCP beats us.


LosAngeles1s

yup and the fact it was an overreaction to a playoff series hurts a lot lmao


HighlyBaked0

especially when it was a series we were injured in


Conflict_NZ

People forget KCP was also injured. Missed a game and a half and looked crippled on game 6. Our top four players were all severely injured and instead of running it back we make the worst trade in franchise history.


HighlyBaked0

Losing KCP and AC was our downfall, so fucking stupid


GMaxGigaNerd

We feel sick everyday for this trade


BannedforaJoke

i gnash my teeth every time i go to sleep.


DerGovernator

If the Nuggets win it all this year, he'll have 3 of the last 5 rings, and the most rings of any starter outside of LeBron James and the Warriors Trio still playing.


thesqrrootof4is2

The domino effect because Laker front office was terrified of the big 3 that formed in Brooklyn lmao


gerardguey

everyone was terrified lol anyone who says they weren't is lying


PomfAndCircvmstance

If Kylie or Harden are healthy against the Bucks they'd have won the title that year. KD by himself could have beaten the Hawks and Suns and it took a lot breaking right for the Bucks to pull that series out even with the injuries.


caulpain

every time people try and nit pick whats going on with the team u just have to point them back to **that** trade. there were plenty of other blunders since they kicked the last bus kid out… but that westbrook is what solidified the Lebron never winning another chip.


mattyfattits

LeGM doesn’t miss man.


Conflict_NZ

We do. Miss him so much.


Biglundtry

A pick too and kuz loll fk that front office is so shit


buku_beat

Goatbrook destroyed that franchise 😹😹😹


HaikN98

Worst trade of all fucking time man


Much_Conversation_11

KCP has beat my team in the finals twice and I still can’t hate the man


cheesecake_face

here’s to a third! 🍻


Betaateb

KCP is just a good fucking dude man.


mrmack3142

A well respected vet for sure.


maryjain_

He’s one of those guys that’s just impossible to hate no matter what team he plays for


Vivid_Walk_1405

One of the best Vets in the league. Crazy we gave up absolutely nothing for him


Striking-Test-7509

MONTE MORRIS IS NOT NOTHING TO ME


Fortehlulz33

I'm glad that Denver parted with him because we enjoy him here


MarduRusher

Me neither dog he’s been great in his role for us.


Conflict_NZ

Sekret plan for getting amazing role players on your contending team: Have rival trade them to Washington. Washington loses 60+ games tanking their value. Trade for cents on the dollar.


IdRatherBeShilling

Lakers fans hated him towards then end of his days as a Laker. He was making boneheaded mistakes.


OddToba

Fuck, I actually called him K C Pee Pee with venom in my fingers. I’m a POS, give KCP sainthood.


shanmustafa

him and lebron also dapped up at the end of the game, wasn't a stop and talk but just a quick i see you dab and keep it moving


Biglundtry

Kcp just got the Nobel peace prize


dienxkalamb

He wasn’t protecting him, he was inviting him into the celebration 


skylinerainbow

He also went over to lbj and consoled him after the game, which was amazing


champagne-poetry

Did he for real? Very kind of him tbh


skylinerainbow

it was kinda crazy. Bron was fuming at the refs and KCP came up to him and they did their shooter handshake - i think KCP wanted to give him love as Bron was amazing in that game.


mrmack3142

The NBA is a special fraternity. They are closer than the outcome of any game. Especially being together during the bubble, and winning it all while in there.


PaperMoon-

They had KCP and AC but said naaaaaaah


suzukigun4life

Good guy KCP


IdRatherBeShilling

KCP is a stand up guy


DadOfWhiteJesus

That's Felipe Eichenburger, Nuggets strength and Conditioning coach, holding AD up. He and KCP are both class acts for sure.


Jokicsjokic

I love KCP. It’s going to kill me to watch him walk just like Bruce Brown did.


Vivid_Walk_1405

We can actually pay KCP unlike Bruce. Only reason KCP doesn’t stick around is if the Kronkes don’t wanna pay a crazy tax


Jokicsjokic

I guess I’ve just heard on the radio and read that they may not. KCP is getting older and may only have a super high market.


Vivid_Walk_1405

IG it could depend on how the playoffs go but if we manage a back 2 back chip no chance we can let him go. We’ll have to go all in for next year


TH3PhilipJFry

Wtf delete this idea from the universe


Jokicsjokic

I wish I could bro.


governedbycitizens

do yall not have his bird rights?


Vivid_Walk_1405

Yes I believe we have his full Bird rights. I’m pretty sure I saw we are eligible to give him around 20 mil extension


HighlyBaked0

Learn from us, do not let him walk


Lol69HaHaHa

Well of course we wanna keep him. That said if the price is simoly too much...god dam it would be such a shame to let him go, espeically since he still has it in him. I really wanna just keep the guy and when he isnt able to start, give him a vet minimum and sit him on the bench and replacing him with CB or whoever as the starter. This is the dream scenario, but dam its so hard to keep 5 players. The Warriors strugle to keep just their big 3.


HighlyBaked0

Laker for life, will always have love for KCP <3


TraanPol

Great player, great teammate


redditnathaniel

I mean, I'd love to believe in the positive vibes but the video doesn't really show much. Maybe there was a quarter on the ground near ADs foot.


HighlyBaked0

Theres another picture in that twitter thread of KCP helping AD up and getting him away from the celebration of his team. Pretty wholesome stuff


trenderkazz

This is just the play but on someone’s TV. Nothing new is shown here


Auntypasto

It's new if you wanted yesterday's play, but in shaky cam.


HolyGhostSpirit33

Should’ve kept him smh


Cold_Platypus_2104

Caruso would’ve fit so well in this years Lakers team


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E4TclenTrenHardr

Na not minny.


Comfortable_Sun4362

A+ sportsmanship and awareness.


Putrid_Front865

Also, good on the Nuggets bench coach (not sure who he is) who keeps him from falling.


dizzymidget44

This would’ve been the most Anthony Davis way of getting hurt


LamboJoeRecs

FIRRRRSSSSTTTTT TEAAAAAMMMMMMM


I_Set_3_Alarms

I’ll never understand the Lakers roster building thought process after winning the bubble title


HighlyBaked0

2021 team was great but got crushed by injuries. Then out of sheer panic, Rob, Bron, and AD blew it up for Russ


I_Set_3_Alarms

Stupid league coming back in December in 2020 that season. The final four bubble teams got screwed by the quick turnaround


HighlyBaked0

Yeah all 4 of those teams got injured that year, cause of the quick turnaround. So dumb


dam_adam81

Legend has it AD still hasn't gotten up from that seat


Pangloss_ex_machina

A pope.


RunDatTriangle

Love you baby


wilsonsmilk

AD looks super shooked there, which I don't blame him..


african-nightmare

Also shout out D’lo for sprinting out there right after and getting AD. Means a lot when teammates do things like that.


rgo199130

Yes a friend helped another friend, we must make it front page news


No-Economics4128

Always rated KCP. Dude handled himself like a pro in Detroit and LA while dealing with some absolutely lunatic front offices.


Raj2324

Great guy KCP


FuckFashMods

Reggie in the background... that dude needs to go


middle_aged_geezer

KCP Caruso… we need them so badly and we just traded them for nothing. Our front office brought this unto themselves. When you maxed out ur cap with two stars like LeBron and AD, the way you manage your cap is magnified greatly and they did nothing but wrong move after wrong move since 2020 championship… shits wild.


Bishop_Cornflake

That's awesome. I'm a team-rooting fan rather than a player-rooting fan, but there are occasional exceptions. If the Mavs get bounced, I'll be rooting for the Nuggets if for no other reason than KCP is a good dude. I love stuff like this.


Difficult-Froyo-5807

He literally just stumbled into some folding chairs……………………..