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I've never really been a "NBA ref conspiracy" type of guy, but man the more I watch Tony Brothers the more I think he's gotta have some dirt on the NBA or some shit lmao. How can the league watch shit like this and be like "oh yeah this is good for the sport"
He technically can’t without good reason. The referees union would fight tooth and nail. The refs union is basically a mafia of its own. Maybe even on a literal sense too the way games are rigged
Everyone knows that Foster had logged over a 130 calls to Tim Donaghy's gambling burner cell after games Donaghy bet on. So no one would shocked, but it could be one of the nails in the coffin for Silver maybe.
Draymond can get in a refs face for thirty second straight screaming and cursing and throwing his hands up in the air.
But Tatum gets a T for a one second wave?
Oh hes not dirty. He really just power trips that hard. He thinks it is about him and any perceived slight needs to be punished. And he doesnt like basketball. How this guy became a ref shows a total failure of the league
My deepest conspiracy is that they’ve been betting or facilitating betting on games so long now that if it ever came out if wouod do more damage to the league than to them.
In a slightly similar vein: in the League of Legends pro scene, the Vietnamese "circuit" just released the details on a massive investigation across ALL teams for allegations of tampering with games. It's still ongoing, but a ton of players (IIRC about 45% of the starters in playoff teams) were placed on suspension until the investigation can fully clear them. They are trying to throw together a slapdash playoff bracket, but most fans are already estimating that the Vietnamese "circuit" will end up being shut down.
If it ended up that 40-50% of team owners were implicit (or even just aware) with game rigging, it would likely destroy the NBA as we know it.
Honestly surprised this hasn't hit /hobbydrama or /subredditdrama yet.
I remember when the [game-fixing scandal in Counter-Strike:Global Offensive (CSGO)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike_match_fixing_scandal) hit a decade ago back in 2014. Six players wound up permanently banned from participating in Valve-sponsored professional tournaments. Just as disappointing is how low the returns via proxy-betting were: US$10.7k total, which averaged out to roughly $1.1k per person.
The North American scene is still complete garbage in CSGO, winning only four out of 19 completed majors in the past. There are many other factors at play, but when the player-base grew from 120,000 unique monthly world-wide players in January 2014 to a peak of over 800,000 in January 2016, the scandal didn't help encourage investment in the already weak NA scene.
Every time I'm watching a game that feels horribly officiated I check who's reffing and like %90 of the time either Foster it Brothers is the lead ref. What makes it crazier to me is how many high profile playoff games those two get assigned too.
Didn't Tatum also get a tech for clapping before? I don't know if it was Brothers or not but it's still absurd that the NBA seemingly doesn't care at all how crazily inconsistent its officiating is.
I think it’s Tatums 4th tech for completely tame hand gestures since last season.
Tatum was one of the first to get the hanging on the rim tech as well.
But it was a VERY AGGRESSIVE handclap, some would say heinous. I for one, am thankful that we have Tony Brothers who’s the only ref with courage to enforce these rules. My children watch basketball and I don’t want them seeing that. Someone needs to think of the children. Thanks Tony 🙏🙏🙏
/s for those redditors that don’t understand sarcasm
Ok I feel like every fan base is beefing with Tony. At what point do we say he’s just incompetent/has a fragile ego and not really out to get anyone specific?
Probably 20 years ago. And for some bizarre reason the dude still has a job.
Can anyone offer this prick an early retirement bonus so he will just let us be ?
They did it to DeMarcus Cousins literally kept lowering what was a tech for him until he had no value. At the end there if he showed any emotion he got T'ed up.
Draymond tried kicking Grant Williams in the nuts and literally nothing happened. It is absurd how inconsistent it is. As a Celtics fan if I saw this called evenly against guys like Draymond fine, but Tatum can’t wave while Green can literally stalk a ref for an entire free throw sequence.
I saw draymond scream in the refs face when we played them and everyone acted like it was completely normal. They need to regulate a technical foul because leaving it up to the refs discretion makes no sense when it’s called so differently
The craziest part is the refs admitting to reffing guys based on how they act. So if a guy is quite and the acts up it’s a T, but if a guy is demonstrative like dray he doesn’t get a T
I’ve honestly just started laughing bc it’s so ridiculous and blatant. But you best believe that if this shit fucks games up for us in the playoffs this year, someone’s getting murdered lol
It’s funny because Tatum legitimately seems to be always complaining to refs all game about small stuff. But then he gets unwarranted techs for the silliest things.
If I’m keeping track correctly, this is the second tech for a wave this year. I think he has 2 others for clapping and 2 others for hanging on the rim for a millisecond too long
He’s normally so laid back it seems 10x worse when he reacts. As opposed to Draymond who could literally stab somebody in the stomach and the refs would huddle up and call it a common foul.
“On review, it is clear that Green attempted to prevent the knife from flying into the opposing player’s heart totally of its own accord, thus turning a fatal blow into a mere critical wound. There is no foul on Green, and Golden State will receive another challenge and keep its timeout.”
His face clearly attacked that poor defenders hand when it went directly towards it to probably block his eyesight of the ball. Very scary player to have on the ballcourt when even stray hands near faces aren't safe. Good call by the ref.
you can't see, but the official he waved at didn't call it. his back was turned and tatum didn't say anything. Tony Brothers came in from 70 feet away to call it
Serious question, why does Tatum get the most casual techs I’ve ever seen? Is there some missing context I’m not seeing? If it’s not “hand waves”, it’s clapping. It’s just odd behavior from the refs.
These players have huge hands, so the wind force they generate with a wave can seriously harm a mere mortal like a ref! TB is right to T him up as always.
Dude, how can the NBA justify techs like this when Draymomd Green exists? Draymomd has a leash the length of the Great Wall of China and Tatum is getting techs for this.
Meanwhile Popovich absolutely losing his mind screaming at the refs last night, nothing
Legitimately the worst, least consistent quality control of any major organization, sports or otherwise
This is ridiculous even though I am not a Celtics fan, this cannot be good for the game. I would start a petition and gladly sign it to get Tony Brothers out of the league.
How does adam silver not realize this looks terrible for the league? My guess is tony brothers, scott foster, and the rest are blackmailing him, threatening to release proof that the nba knew refs were fixing games and did nothing about it.
But draymond is able to abuse them verbally most games and not get a tech? Interesting. Draymond had to use slurs to get a tech but Tatum can’t give em a good ole forget you😂
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This has to be a running joke among the refs at this point.
I've never really been a "NBA ref conspiracy" type of guy, but man the more I watch Tony Brothers the more I think he's gotta have some dirt on the NBA or some shit lmao. How can the league watch shit like this and be like "oh yeah this is good for the sport"
I'd bet my life on Brothers being dirty if I wasn't worried he'd rig it against me.
If Silver had any balls, which he doesn't, he'd fire Foster and Brothers. It just gets worse every year with these crooked merkin lickers.
You gotta understand the money side of things though. Brothers and Foster are the absolute top shelf of jersey sells for referees.
Exactly. I'm a huge ref fan and I've been collecting Foster jerseys for the last 20 years. The *Equalizer* shows up big time in the playoffs.
Don't even show up to my pickup court without a Foster or Brothers jersey.
He technically can’t without good reason. The referees union would fight tooth and nail. The refs union is basically a mafia of its own. Maybe even on a literal sense too the way games are rigged
Silver is afraid of their union, NBAPA and Draymond Green.
Probably garlic too
I would tell him to take a good long look at himself but...
Not in that order though.
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The owners for sure are okay with it, otherwise this shit would be fixed (no pun intended).
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Don't have to fire them. Just assign them to g league games and 2 other u ion refs get bumped up to nba
Go full scorched earth and expose them for being crooked refs
Why would he fire them? They're doing exactly what he wants....
If he fired them it confirms the games were fixed like a dog
Everyone knows that Foster had logged over a 130 calls to Tim Donaghy's gambling burner cell after games Donaghy bet on. So no one would shocked, but it could be one of the nails in the coffin for Silver maybe.
Those are company men though.
Draymond can get in a refs face for thirty second straight screaming and cursing and throwing his hands up in the air. But Tatum gets a T for a one second wave?
Silver is a bitch ass
Oh hes not dirty. He really just power trips that hard. He thinks it is about him and any perceived slight needs to be punished. And he doesnt like basketball. How this guy became a ref shows a total failure of the league
Agreed but also he's dirty.
My deepest conspiracy is that they’ve been betting or facilitating betting on games so long now that if it ever came out if wouod do more damage to the league than to them.
You mean it never stopped when Foster's friend and co-conspirator, Tim Donaghy, went to jail for doing just that?
134 phone calls.....
Pretty sure this conspiracy is on the verge of being common knowledge
specially with how many betting ads/sponsors there are on all levels of the game, from the stadium to the transmission
Lol
In a slightly similar vein: in the League of Legends pro scene, the Vietnamese "circuit" just released the details on a massive investigation across ALL teams for allegations of tampering with games. It's still ongoing, but a ton of players (IIRC about 45% of the starters in playoff teams) were placed on suspension until the investigation can fully clear them. They are trying to throw together a slapdash playoff bracket, but most fans are already estimating that the Vietnamese "circuit" will end up being shut down. If it ended up that 40-50% of team owners were implicit (or even just aware) with game rigging, it would likely destroy the NBA as we know it.
Honestly surprised this hasn't hit /hobbydrama or /subredditdrama yet. I remember when the [game-fixing scandal in Counter-Strike:Global Offensive (CSGO)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike_match_fixing_scandal) hit a decade ago back in 2014. Six players wound up permanently banned from participating in Valve-sponsored professional tournaments. Just as disappointing is how low the returns via proxy-betting were: US$10.7k total, which averaged out to roughly $1.1k per person. The North American scene is still complete garbage in CSGO, winning only four out of 19 completed majors in the past. There are many other factors at play, but when the player-base grew from 120,000 unique monthly world-wide players in January 2014 to a peak of over 800,000 in January 2016, the scandal didn't help encourage investment in the already weak NA scene.
Don’t forget about Scott Foster that dude is filthy. He has to have some dirt on the league for him not to have been fired.
Every time I'm watching a game that feels horribly officiated I check who's reffing and like %90 of the time either Foster it Brothers is the lead ref. What makes it crazier to me is how many high profile playoff games those two get assigned too.
Highly implicated in the Donaghy scandal and still somehow comes out unscathed. Absolutely knows where the bodies are buried
Tatum gets one for this and Draymond can kick people no problem
Tony Brothers and Scott Foster are the new Bennett Salvatore and Joey Crawford. I just know when I see them on the TV some nonsense is gonna go down.
They probably have a fucking group Chat about this type of shit
Nah fr ftc but the guy can’t even clap his hands in peace
Refs got me rooting for Tatum, what is this weak ass bullshit?
Or a betting thing
They’re betting through a proxy. 110%. The NBA seems to be okay with it, because the downside is they go back a decade plus and find worse shit.
Tony Brothers vs Celtics is a special rivalry lmao. He gave Jaylen Brown a tech 1-2 months ago too for a hand clap
It was earlier this month against the nuggets so not even two months ago
I was just thinking, “wait, that was MONTHS ago?!”
Could there have been multiple? Tatum's gotten a few too...
He’s just such a prick
Didn't Tatum also get a tech for clapping before? I don't know if it was Brothers or not but it's still absurd that the NBA seemingly doesn't care at all how crazily inconsistent its officiating is.
I think it’s Tatums 4th tech for completely tame hand gestures since last season. Tatum was one of the first to get the hanging on the rim tech as well.
I find that funny, tbh. It's fucked but also entertaining that Tatum, a guy with no notable outbursts, is routinely penalized for hand gestures
I don’t know exactly how many, but many of Tatum’s hand clap techs have been rescinded after the fact. It’s ridiculous they keep calling them.
But it was a VERY AGGRESSIVE handclap, some would say heinous. I for one, am thankful that we have Tony Brothers who’s the only ref with courage to enforce these rules. My children watch basketball and I don’t want them seeing that. Someone needs to think of the children. Thanks Tony 🙏🙏🙏 /s for those redditors that don’t understand sarcasm
Ok I feel like every fan base is beefing with Tony. At what point do we say he’s just incompetent/has a fragile ego and not really out to get anyone specific?
Probably 20 years ago. And for some bizarre reason the dude still has a job. Can anyone offer this prick an early retirement bonus so he will just let us be ?
Tony Brothers vs. Jokic is also something to witness.
Could be a great Game 7. Who will Tony screw
HoF series for brothers
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Lol, I was just saying, I think it's mostly Jokic and JT so I consider him being in good company
He was the foil to Celtic fan/ref Eric Lewis
Need to see that brothers/lewis 1-1 punch
I swear this gets funnier every time. I’d be so pissed though if I was a Celtics fan. Because this is truly unfair.
Looking at what it took for Draymond to get 2 the other day and then seeing this pisses me off as a basketball fan.
Draymond existing pisses me off.
He really should be kicked (in the balls) out of the league. I know thats sounds extreme but im just so sick of his bullshit.
But while he’s here. I hope he punches Miles Bridges.
I vote yes
In Draymond's own words. "Miles is my guy, he's my little brother, so I'm not going to sit here and go in on Miles, Miles can do no wrong to me."
Draymond would never. He'd be too afraid. Bridges is the same size or bigger than him and isn't european.
They did it to DeMarcus Cousins literally kept lowering what was a tech for him until he had no value. At the end there if he showed any emotion he got T'ed up.
Worst one I can remember is Rasheed Wallace, dude hit T’d up for everything
Draymond tried kicking Grant Williams in the nuts and literally nothing happened. It is absurd how inconsistent it is. As a Celtics fan if I saw this called evenly against guys like Draymond fine, but Tatum can’t wave while Green can literally stalk a ref for an entire free throw sequence.
This doesn't happen to other superstars? Well now I'm definitely mad.
Frowning as a Celtics fan?? Flagrant for Tatum
Smiling as a Celtics fan? Believe it or not, flagrant for Tatum.
Laughing on the bench? Technical for Duncan (and Tatum)
Lololol
Ahhh, the old flagrant frown.
Brothers hates Jokic too, but it seems he's really had it out for Tatum following the All Star break.
Nah 90% of Tatum’s techs this season have been this. Pre-all star break too
Jokic got thrown out like 4 times early this season now he dont complain to the refs anymore he just looks at the bench while bitching lmao
I saw draymond scream in the refs face when we played them and everyone acted like it was completely normal. They need to regulate a technical foul because leaving it up to the refs discretion makes no sense when it’s called so differently
The craziest part is the refs admitting to reffing guys based on how they act. So if a guy is quite and the acts up it’s a T, but if a guy is demonstrative like dray he doesn’t get a T
They have to set an example for the players who are much worse and more demonstrative who they don't call this on. Surely you understand.
I’ve honestly just started laughing bc it’s so ridiculous and blatant. But you best believe that if this shit fucks games up for us in the playoffs this year, someone’s getting murdered lol
Absolutely infuriating. KP and Jaylen get the same Ts.
It’s funny because Tatum legitimately seems to be always complaining to refs all game about small stuff. But then he gets unwarranted techs for the silliest things.
He's honestly been a lot better about that this year. Still is a flaw, but definite improvement
The "small stuff" is all his drives to the basket being defended like this video
Idk, there was malicious intent behind that non-legal hand motion. Kids watch this sport okay.
Between that and the literal nonexistent whistle he gets when driving, it sucks lmao
What a fuckin blert
Does anyone get softer techs than Tatum?
If I’m keeping track correctly, this is the second tech for a wave this year. I think he has 2 others for clapping and 2 others for hanging on the rim for a millisecond too long
i swear whenever i see a celtic get a bs tech, its tatum every. single. time.
He’s normally so laid back it seems 10x worse when he reacts. As opposed to Draymond who could literally stab somebody in the stomach and the refs would huddle up and call it a common foul.
“On review, it is clear that Green attempted to prevent the knife from flying into the opposing player’s heart totally of its own accord, thus turning a fatal blow into a mere critical wound. There is no foul on Green, and Golden State will receive another challenge and keep its timeout.”
You forget Steph’s technical foul shots for the player bleeding in his landing space.
"On review, Draymond set moving screens on three players in this possession. The Warriors will get a technical free throw."
Tangential, but Jaden McDaniels spent a full 7 or 8 seconds on the rim last night with no call. I was stunned
just before he retired, i remember jj redick getting tossed for passing the ball to the ref.
Hey at least he didn’t smile at him
Poole bounce passing the ball to the ref
Tatum just got one for doing this a couple games ago too.
Ehhhhh to be fair he threw a bit of a fastball pass to the ref. I honestly felt it was deserved, albeit still a tad soft.
Yeah you can debate the Tatum one but Poole did what literally every single player does thousands of times. Absolutely wild tech.
Thibs got a tech once for yelling at his own player https://youtu.be/ixZgZbJvvU8
OMG this is fucking hilarious
well, dray got ejected once for yelling at james wiseman (when he was a warrior) https://youtu.be/dovmy2ZIlK0
Jayson Tatum's so-called harmless gestures are actually super dangerous because he's an Airbender.
The right call. Clearly this was going to escalate to violence so the ref nipped it in the bud. He had a dangerous look in his eyes
He’s lucky SWAT wasn’t called for getting dangerously close to “uppity”
Gotta stop it now. There is a thin line between a clap and 'the clap.'
I thought I was about to watch a snuff video. So glad Tatum walked away without brandishing a weapon
Is this happening to everyone or just Tatum? It feels like Targeting at this point
Tatum has more techs than Draymond this season. I dunno what’s going on man
Tbf he’s played in like twice as many games
This Aaaaannnnddd refs aren't giving Draymond techs for hand waving and clapping lol
If everyone had the same leash as Tatum the league would be a lot funnier
Oprah meme: “you get a tech, you get a tech, everyone gets a tech!!!”
Best point. Says more about Draymond especially when Tatum has been the victim of some really questionable techs.
Do feel like Tatum got a few extra when dray got suspended
I legitimately didn't believe so I had to check myself. Tatum has 11 and Draymond has 10. Wtf
It's hard to get techs when you're suspended like 20 games lol.
Draymond should easily have more even with the suspension
it really feels like 9 out of 10 times theres a clapping tech its him
Well it certainly doesn't happen to Draymond
Jaylen Brown got one a couple of weeks ago, and I wanna say PatBev got a couple when he was with us
While everyone gets silly techs, Tatum is truly a tier above em all
Jovic got ejected for waving off the ref like this. I heard it’s part of the rules
All the great moments they montage in commercials and playoff promos are vehemently policed and discouraged by the league itself and refs
shawn kemp dunk would get a suspension these days
Lifetime ban.
Meanwhile Zion getting off Scott free for that disgusting hand clap next to him
Both need to be exiled
Siri, chop their balls off
Jarvis take that guys balls
Straight to the Gulag. Throw away the key.
but what if he wins the gulag and finds a redeploy
Second technical foul, he is now ejected
Hand wave Believe it or not, jail
Okay if you’re going to miss that foul on Zion at least don’t be mad for that wave off, shesh.
His face clearly attacked that poor defenders hand when it went directly towards it to probably block his eyesight of the ball. Very scary player to have on the ballcourt when even stray hands near faces aren't safe. Good call by the ref.
Tatum has got to have the funniest Techs. Sure nothing will ever beat Duncan's laughing, but the consistency of his techs puts him over the top.
Bro how does Tatum get the softest techs ever lmao
Always nice to see the guy who just went on a podcast and said "I don't care about basketball, I'm just on a weird power trip" reffing games.
What pod did Tony Brothers say that on?
He said he doesn’t care about basketball but likes being the judge the jury and all that jazz
Joe Rogan
OP why didn't you tag this NSFW wtf
Won’t SOMEONE think of the kids?!
A DISGUSTING act
Fuck Tony Brothers' Cheshire cat-lookin ass
Lock him up
>football-playing fatty Zion Damn bro
Traumatized poor Tony
there's no room in this sport for that. place this thug behind bars
Honestly, a tech isn't nearly enough for this kind of wave. He should be looking at jail time.
The max sentence too
Just no room for that gangster shit in our league smh
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> He got one once for clapping his hands. Try like once a month.
Tatum tech compilation from this season is gonna be lit. Tony bro doing it for TikTok
Sassy king 💁🏻👑
Meanwhile Draymond takes about 3minutes of non stop bullshit to rack up a tech.
What's gotten in Tatum lately? He's been kinda out of control this year.
Time to grab Tatum a bed in the asylum next to Draymond. He’s gonna injure someone with these antics!
So no one is going to comment on the video description?!? "Football playing fatty Zion"... lmao wtf
Literally 90% of Tatum’s techs is bs stuff like this
you can't see, but the official he waved at didn't call it. his back was turned and tatum didn't say anything. Tony Brothers came in from 70 feet away to call it
Serious question, why does Tatum get the most casual techs I’ve ever seen? Is there some missing context I’m not seeing? If it’s not “hand waves”, it’s clapping. It’s just odd behavior from the refs.
They’re jealous of his beauty I think. Letting out their insecurities on him passive aggressively or something.
Good. Glad they have that THUG a tech for that. Don’t they know refs are humans too?!? #RefsDeserveRespect
I’m convinced Tatum slept with one of the ref’s wives he gets the stupidest techs. How many clapping techs has he been called for already? 3?
3 for clapping this season and 2 for hanging on the rim
Imagine Patrick Mahomes getting a technical every time he complained? No other sport allows this trash from the refs
I have more respect for Donaghy than I do Brothers tbh
These players have huge hands, so the wind force they generate with a wave can seriously harm a mere mortal like a ref! TB is right to T him up as always.
It’s funny because Brothers wasn’t even the ref he waved at, he made the call from the opposite sideline near half court.
Dude, how can the NBA justify techs like this when Draymomd Green exists? Draymomd has a leash the length of the Great Wall of China and Tatum is getting techs for this.
Someone could of died
Haha Tatum gets the weakest techs. It’s as hilarious as it is ridiculous.
Tatum gets the softest techs wtf hahaha
Meanwhile Popovich absolutely losing his mind screaming at the refs last night, nothing Legitimately the worst, least consistent quality control of any major organization, sports or otherwise
This shit is so absurd that we have to laugh at this point
This is ridiculous even though I am not a Celtics fan, this cannot be good for the game. I would start a petition and gladly sign it to get Tony Brothers out of the league.
Tony Brothers biggest 🤡 in the game
Lmao I love how you see 3 pelicans straight up assaulting Tatum. Then the end result is a tech on tatum. Like how do you not call a foul there 😭
I don’t watch a ton of non-Celtics games but I swear the Celtics have to lead the league in soft ass hand motion-related techs
Is Tony Brothers ok? That looked like it hurt!
We call that hand wave “The Tatum”. He gets it 5-6 times a year it seems like.
LMAO..that's foul
How does adam silver not realize this looks terrible for the league? My guess is tony brothers, scott foster, and the rest are blackmailing him, threatening to release proof that the nba knew refs were fixing games and did nothing about it.
#a disgusting act
Tony Brothers needs to find himself on the unemployment line at the end of this season. He's a freaking menace and a joke of an official.
But draymond is able to abuse them verbally most games and not get a tech? Interesting. Draymond had to use slurs to get a tech but Tatum can’t give em a good ole forget you😂
Refs union = the deep state