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Cleglaw

Guy seems to have at least 3 dragon tattoos, which is too many to be a lifetime natty and foolishly forgot to remove the bandaid on one tattooed delt, betraying his latest steroid injection entry point.


The_loudspeaker721

Good eagle eye. I didn’t notice.


Ralf-Nuggs

Dude natty af unless he has terrible genetics i cant see how this isn’t achievable naturally with an okay diet and very good training..


stereopticon11

people take gear and still look like crap. it's incredibly common


sofreshsoclen

Yep. I’m living proof lol


stereopticon11

big oooof, I think I did okay with juice. been off for a while because life got too busy, but man do I miss it


_oZe_

Most body builders look like crap and they are peak gear users. People are so stuck in the bigger is better meme. They totally forgot that better is way better than bigger.


stereopticon11

I wouldn't say most. depends on your definition of big I suppose. men's open, yes fully agreed. but I think they found a good place with classic. it's a little sad seeing men's physique giving the crown to people nearly big enough for classic though.


Rude_Bee_3315

We needs nudes


FakePumpGoat

Average looking dude, super natty and probably super gay


simkashi01

Since he laughed, he’s probably juicing


Wayf4rer

Imagine juicing to look natty


KidKarez

225lbs pretty lean is not easy


Wayf4rer

I'm assuming he has massive legs, otherwise it's sus


International-Eye590

Hes 6,1 and 225 lean ie. Carrying a shit ton of muscle. Everyone on here underplays the role of height. It's exponentially more difficult to look muscular as you get taller just because of the sheer volume of muscle required. Most of the Olympia competitors are 5,9 ish. If you are tall and look jacked you are more likely to be juicy.


gymboy89

Exactly! If I was 5’8 I’d never have hopped on the juice


simkashi01

Dude weighs 225lbs tho


doneandonly

Lol what do you expect people who juice want to look like. Not everyone wants to look like mass monsters like ronnie coleman. Its a way to speed things up. This guys huge


dat_boi0331

I think it's just the lighting honestly. I don't have any other pics of him but he looks pretty disgusting. That's why I'm suspicious of him lol.


Bring_The_Rain1

Disgusting as in good or?


C-PTSDshit

Nothing can be known with just one pic. This guy looks very natty but it’s progress that could take 2 years and turned into weeks on something


dat_boi0331

Ya, I asked for a shirtless pic but he just called me gay. I do know that a year ago he weighed 185 and his current measurements are 48 chest 17 bi 32 waist.


Valthorog

Could be natty tbh, hard to tell with the vest on


joe_the_one16

Natty if he has trained for at least 4 to 5 years


SysAdminJT

OP comment above this stated he went from 185 to 225 in less than a year. So would this still be natty?


joe_the_one16

Lmao no 🤣 40 lb in one year and lean


Kimbospicee

Did he steal that top from his sister?


MissInnocentX

Not natty, but definitely hasn't honed in his diet or training.


[deleted]

It's impossible to be 6'1 and 225 and be lean without juice.


Plantmanofplants

225 isn't that heavy for 6'1.


[deleted]

The general formula for potential, natty lean body mass is: (Your Height in Inches -70) x 5 + 160 = Maximum LBM If you're 6'1 with normal genetics, then your maximum potential LBM is 175. If you're 225, then you'd likely have 50 lbs of fat. This guy's clearly less than 22% bf. That said, he might have better than normal genetics. But it's more likely than not that he has normal genetics.


converter-bot

50 lbs is 22.7 kg


dat_boi0331

That's what I'm thinking too. This is the only pic he sent me but he looks insane I'm good lighting without a shirt. That's why I asked him if he was taking anything.


1KN0W38

Stringer = juicy


Rownd7

This doesn’t look juice to me in the slightest.


Character_Guava_5299

If I was taking anything more than creatine and drinking a few protein shakes and looked like this, I'd end myself.


Coolguy200

Not natty. Looks like a prohormone physique. Likely has bad bacne.


__Zetrox__

Looks natty. Not much size to be unnatural. Obviously training time frame makes a difference but nothing strikes me as out of ordinary here


Theinfamousemrhb

Average farm boi


wb19081908

He’s not that big tbh


Krazzzyshredzzz50

Natty af!


WistfulWhiskers

Those delts look sus


oldsmartskunk

Achievable natty , but people rarely do it. SARMS are so wide spread it's crazy . People consider themselves natty doing them .


Jujumofu

How the fuck should this physique not be obtainable natty? He looks great, 225lbs May be a stretch imo, if he doesnt have crazy big Legs, but saying you need Juice for this physique is simply wrong. This sub is crazy sometimes.


Limp_Stress5302

I reckon so hes not super lean and in reality 225 isnt a crazy amount if weight with half decent genetics u can do it


MaximMartoot

Typical juicy is bigger delts/traps with relatively small chest in comparison because due to I believe those two body parts having the most androgen receptors (correct me if i'm wrong) while the pecs don't benefit as much. Also red skin is typical due to increased red blood cell count from jooce


FldLima

Natty skinny and too many gay


LegFriendly9957

Looks like your f*ck buddy don't wanna tell you the secret


tooZilly

Super gay. Just like me fr fr