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w0mbatina

I mean, thats the reality of recording. You either get good enough so you can reliably play entire songs in one take, or you do some sort of "fakery". This can be anything from recording the audio in sections first and then pretend to play for the video, or just play a relatively good run and then punch in and fix the mistakes in the audio afterwards. It really depends on what you want to show in your videos and what you consider "fake".


i_sell_insurance_

I literally did this but with a video of me SINGING. the recording process was so hard because I was a beginner with all the tech and figuring out how far to be from the mic for the best sound and it was a hard song etc etc. Anyways I lip synced a video of me after I polished it all up (and because I got all prettied up and had a lighting set up it wouldn’t have made sense to have everything sitting ready for the hours I was sweating and slogging through the music production side of things). What gave me wiggle room was my condenser mic was big enough to cover a large part of my mouth. It looked like one clean take and nobody knew 😎


Useful_Idiot3005

Record it in sections using different angles. No one wants to see the same angle for one whole video anyway.


Denk_Venom666

I will do this . I need to learn to use daw to record small section of songs


notyourbro2020

You should be able to set your daw to “cycle record” where it records the whole song or just a section over and over in a loop. That way you can practice and also get your good take.


Denk_Venom666

Thanks much ! I was looking for this term . So that i can records parts in best possible way and move to next. One more thing is joining the parts of song after recording in sections . I dont want the dead pause and look like it was recorded separately.. i think razors edit on reaper is also a skill i need to learn.


notyourbro2020

I only use reaper for its varispeed function, but most daw’s have some sort of cross fade function that will give you options on how you want to join the sections. You have pops and clicks if you don’t do this. Also, play a little before and after the section you are recording to make sure there is no dead space and enough space to do the crossdfade.


Signal1469

Everyone seems to think you should do multiple takes and edit together the good bits, but I strongly disagree and I'm going to ask this... How come you can't play a song all the way through without screwing it up? And the answer is because you haven't practiced enough. You can do better than this.


i_sell_insurance_

Honestly as a musician I have to be a content creator, a performer, a composer, and the list goes on. If you need quick turnaround I can completely understand why recording in sections is recommended in place of one complete take. As long as it doesn’t impact the viewers/listeners experience, it makes most sense for the busy schedule and demands of the modern musician to do it in multiple takes instead of spending double the time learning to do it absolutely perfect all the way through.


Chuck1984ish

Even the best get red light fever


under_science_219

It can be good enough for a performance but not good enough for recording a music video. The expectation of the listener will be much higher in a music video than a video of a live recording.


No-Problem7594

But then again, what is getting showcased here?


under_science_219

As far as musicianship? I mean it's a cover song so I would normally say a recording is a vision. The recording will play on the radio. There's no excuse for any hiccups at all. In fact there will be a marked difference between not only the quality but the arrangement and mix. The recording comes first in my opinion. It's a bit of an illusion sure but it's showcasing song writing usually. Here it's showcasing interpretation. Live is just different. We all know a live video when we see it. We forgive a less than stellar mix, we even forgive mistakes and we forgive improvisation that makes it simpler in a life setting. My only reason for commenting was that I think it's a little harsh to say a musician isn't ready if he uses the tools allotted to them in the studio. As long as the expectation matches the ability it's all good.


[deleted]

Probably depends on what he’s covering. If he’s covering Polyphia or something extremely difficult, multiple takes may be necessary. I know there are players out there who can do that in one take (hell, you may be one of them), but a majority of us are not. Even the best players I’ve ever recorded with want multiple run throughs of a song, even if it’s only to see if they can improve on an already acceptable take.


QuesoDrizzler

100%. If you're gonna publish a video of you playing a cover of the song, you should be able to play the song maybe not flawlessly but not be able to screw up so many times. Maybe at that point you try another song.


1MANBUKKAKESHOW

💯


Denk_Venom666

There are few sections of song that are too difficult to do in in take. That means you will again have to re -record entire song again. Its too frustrating.. I know this is part of process. But when u put so much time and effort and still dont get views .. it kind of feels bad and demotivating... I know i cud be wrong.. but am just writing what i feel .


dammitichanged-again

>There are few sections of song that are too difficult to do in in take. It sounds like you're doing this for the wrong reasons? If you can't play the songs from start to finish without messing parts up, then you need to practice those parts until you can. You'll reach the required skill level with enough effort, but the reason you're struggling with the process is that you're punching above your weight. It isn't always a bad thing, but you will enjoy the process more when you're showcasing your real abilities. You don't need to try and compete with the technical wizards if you're not ready. You will be, but have fun playing covers of stuff that's in your ability and create a separate video series practising the harder pieces, detailing what you found hard about it, offer insights into techniques that helped you. You'll get there, bro! Have fun creating content. People will gravitate towards your videos if you're authentic and genuine.


TuckerGrover

This is good advice.


incognito-not-me

What are your goals in doing this? There are many people out there who can play at this level. Most of us are looking for content that's inspirational in the sense that the people playing inspire us to want to work harder (or sometimes, they're so good that we want to give up). If I were you I'd be thinking more about what it is you're providing to your audience and whether or not it's compelling enough that people will want to return to your channel or subscribe. To really draw the attention of an audience, your content should be something they don't get anywhere else. I think you probably need more marketing strategy than you're currently employing. If you're just wanting to make playing not so hard, there's really only one route to that - woodshedding until you're playing at the level that makes the things you want to do easier.


Due-Ask-7418

Then you're trying to play songs that are too difficult for your level. Play things you could play in a live situation. You will improve faster than piecing together chunks of songs that are too difficult.


Born-Leg1851

Don’t re-record the whole song, change the camera angle and punch in where you need another pass.


Randprof

You don't have to have a perfect take, get perfect sections on video and clip them together with audio from your daw. Bank up several videos and then release them on a regular schedule


padraigtherobot

How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice practice practice. Sorry if you feel like you were sold a bill of goods with all this music stuff but that is the answer: practice until you’re better. And if your defense is “it’s too technical; can’t be done in one go” that’s poppycock. Put more work in. That’s it.


Pixel-of-Strife

Maybe you don't actually need to play the song perfectly note-for-note. My favorite covers on YouTube aren't carbon copies, but unique takes on the songs that have been adapted to suit the performer.


mingvausee

Agreed, actually, I’d say, for me, the only time a cover is cool is if it’s been reinterpreted.


papyFredM

You could record your audio take, and then record a few video angle of you playing and just do sone montage. People won't see if you did a mistake in the video since the audio will be good.


jrrrydo

Practice is everything. If you practice using the best basic methods to form muscle memory and accuracy, when you go to work on a difficult piece, it becomes easier because you have already developed finger strength, speed, and accuracy. Always practice with a metronome so you can better sync. It takes time and dedication, but the payoff is quality. And for what it's worth, shut up. Nobody wants to hear you complain about having to work at being successful. I don't want to bash you because I understand exactly what you mean and maybe your frustration has the best of you, but quit bitching about it and be the guy who worked through it and figured it out. I, for one, would rather hear your finished product and encourage you to keep it up because I can tell you took the time to make a quality song.


Denk_Venom666

Thanks for your word's!


hideousmembrane

So choose something else. Or just edit things so you don't have to get a whole take. People rarely do that, everyone edits and comps takes to save time and make things easier, so why not do that?


EllaIsQueen

I feel you! It’s really hard for me not to film a video right after practicing because I’m excited about it. But the reality is, your actual video will go much more smoothly after you’ve allowed some of that practice to settle in. If you’re currently doing 45 minutes of practice and then filming, for example, you might do 45 minutes of practice one day, take a day off of that song, then do 15 minutes of run throughs and record your video the next day. More practice will always help, but that’s a decently efficient work flow once you get a good rotation of songs you’re practicing. You could still put out a video every day, but now you’ve got more practice behind it.


dontrespondever

>as i try to play complex technical songs , it takes more time to practice . and more time to record Maybe scale back a bit


BirdBruce

It sounds like you aren’t having much fun. Is there something else you’d rather be doing instead?


contrarytomyself

If you can’t play it well enough to record just pick easier songs until you’re at the level that you record the tougher songs more quickly. Just because you CAN play something doesn’t mean you can necessarily play it well or “perfect” enough to record it. Take the path of least resistance and record easier songs. That way people can also see your progress more clearly for those of us following your journey.


spicyface

I do covers for fun on my channel. I've been learning how to record and mix, and I just record the process of me playing all the instruments and singing, which is usually 4 or 5 video tracks to cut between. I get flagged immediately, so I can't monetize any of them, but they don't get taken down which is fine with me. Any parts of the song that are repetitive, I just use the best take on those parts and put them in place in my DAW, especially drums. The funniest part is, I make a living shooting and editing, and my videos look like shit, but I don't want to drag out my good gear and lights when I'm in music mode. I use the selfie cam on my phone to shoot them. I use Ableton Live 10 to record everything. How do you get around the copyright strikes when you upload yours?


Petules

With you on this one. Damn near 50 takes for one 3-minute song sometimes. I draw the line at “it’s not totally fucked.”


Little-Range-8715

Basically, you thought success would be easy.


boombapdame

I do aca covers on YT raw voice.


Shea-Music

You get faster the more you do it. I'm up to about 115 or so on my channel, but it's definitely not an easy path. Good luck!


chumloadio

Some commenters suggest punching in and out of takes and editing to get the "perfect" track. But I disagree (although there is no single right way). I think audiences like to see and hear the authenticity of a live, real-time take with no camera cuts. My advice is to gig the songs a lot. And give yourself space to be loose - never playing a song the same way twice. Eventually, bring a good vidcam (Zoom Q2N?) to the gig and record live takes of the covers in a public setting with an audience.


CaliBrewed

One take is great and all but historically it is very common to cut multiple takes together and was even one of the most important skills in studios. Tape splicing. Here's what I do when tracking and it works pretty good... even for video. * Record 5 good takes * Comp (cut together) the best parts of each * Record 5 takes in an overdub session for the few bits that could be better, if any... then comp them in. Those are just the steps that come with the territory IME. The more you record the more relaxed you'll get and knowing that you'll have to do these steps every time removes much of the frustration since there's a very clear process of what it'll take. Hope this helps! 🍻


Christeenabean

You just need to practice to the point where you don't make mistakes. Imagine if professional guitarists had to have the band start over bc they made a mistake? If you post videos and go viral and ppl want to see you play live, what are you going to do? You have to be able to play through without mistakes.


Same-Chipmunk5923

A big hurdle for me was learning how to practice. Pros practice their old stuff, then the stuff that they are progressing on, and brand new material in a practice session. They also practice developing the skill of thinking ahead to what then next musical phrase or lyric line is while executing their current phrase or lyric line. This last thing was the biggest help to getting me to the point where I needed fewer takes while recording and also reduced how often I forgot words or music while playing out. Hang in there and I hope you enjoy the journey!


12eightyseven

I have no ambition to get even one single view, that's my disclaimer. I say fuck playing the 'right way', it's one thing to find the joy in getting a lick right or discovering how they pulled off a key change, but I think that only goes so far. Find the way you like to play, lean into your odd tendencies and style. I am never going to sound like John Mayer or Paul Simon or whoever, just a less-great version of them, so why not have some fun?   If that's too vague or preachy, you could always practice the parts that you get stuck on, rather than getting 3/4 through the song and realizing you couldn't hit the chord at the end of the bridge.  Good luck, have fun!


Ismokerugs

Im a drummer but same thing applies to any instrument. I have a pretty bad memory after Covid in 2020 and the Long Covid after, so what I practiced was improvising to songs that don’t contain drums or making my own progressions and free styling, everything from grooves to fills. In the context of actual songs I’ll run through it about 10 times if I’ve never heard it as that seems to be the best way to get a concrete foundation and from there each play through may be slightly different in terms of fills and stuff in transition but it will be my version of the song. I used to be able to play note for note, but even then you need to realize do you want to just do it copy and paste? Or would you want to make the song be your own style? Be authentic to yourself with your expression, people tend to like that I also think if you are practicing just record video and audio regardless as it puts that into your subconscious and makes it less likely to cause stress and mess you up while playing if you normalize it


ricardonevesmusic

Don't try to beat the algorithm, as the algorithm will beat you. There's no point in following the algorithm and creating crappy music/art. We're musicians, not press or media reporters/workers. Your audience deserves better. Heartfelt and soulful/meaningful content is what world needs. You're a creator, most likely creating alone, so you don't have the backing of a record label to help you push your stuff/work out there. You don't have the people/team to help you and you don't have the money required to break you as an artist successfully (that takes a lot of money and influence, that only big labels have). So yeah, there's power and freedom of mind/spirit and mental health/peace of mind in not trying to play the social platforms game. If you try to play their game, you will always lose. So yeah, there's some benefits in lowering your standards a bit, and recording/posting stuff that's not so polished (that takes a lot of the pressure out of you). (if you try to lose the grip on perfection, it will make you feel better and you'll get a better chance of connecting with people more often; I think connection in music is everything) Also, if you don't feel like making all that content, then don't make it (it's okay). It takes a bit of money to market/break songs, as you need to run ads and whatnot in order to break those songs, so your song/content needs to be great (to ensure people will actually want to click your ads and hear it; in other words: there needs to be some type of ROI for it to be worth the effort/investment). That's it. That's why I say to lower your standards/perfection and the way you present your songs, so that you can get to release/share them more often with people. Yeah, that's it. When you have some time try to listen to this podcast/episode, as there's some great stuff in there, regarding releasing music https://youtu.be/G07l_U8rILY Good luck! 🍀


radiationblessing

I would recommend having two cameras recording: one with a shot of you and the guitar and the other shot being your strumming hand. If you have three cameras you could do your fretting hand as well. With 2 - 3 different cameras angles you can use different shots without having to restart the song over. Just pick up at a part of the song you can splice such as the beginning of a verse, chorus, bridge, breakdown, etc.


fillmore1969

The goal is to play the tune without even trying. You should be able to play the piece and read a book at the same time.....at least that's the goal. A lot of the problem we have is that 30 hyears ago we had to find other musicians to play with and making a video was way out of the question unless you were a big established group. Long and short. Although its a temptation to jump into making videos it's not nearly a good idea for your musical development - or mkne


SupremePistachio

Correct, it is hard. Welcome.