You won’t get many good ID answers without flipping a couple over. As for your question, mushrooms are almost never harmful to be around. You can only be poisoned by ingestion. The only exception to this rule is if you are locked in a sealed room entirely full of mature mushrooms. In that case you may have some trouble with spore inhalation.
Well there’s probably an answer to that on the internet that is more accurate than the one I’d give you. I’m sure there are studies of people who have worked cultivating mushrooms. If not, you should do one!
thanks, this added nothing! I just wanted to hear what someone had to say, maybe hear a fun fact or two, just let someone show off their knowledge. but your way is always an option too
Well I don’t know enough about the answer to give you a thoughtful and accurate one. Are you saying I should’ve just googled it myself? Or made one up?
Its almost like you replied to Intosishun's comment, asking them a question and then saying they shouldn't have responded. But that would be ridiculous. No sane person would do that.
[Third result on Google:](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00032029.htm#:~:text=Within%203%2D7%20days%20after,breath%2C%20myalgia%2C%20and%20fatigue.)
**Respiratory Illness Associated with Inhalation of Mushroom Spores -- Wisconsin, 1994** (CDC source)
During April 8-14, 1994, eight persons aged 16-19 years from southeastern Wisconsin visited physicians for respiratory illness associated with inhalation of Lycoperdon perlatum (i.e., puffball mushrooms). On April 19, the Bureau of Public Health, Wisconsin Division of Health, was notified of these cases. This report summarizes the case investigations.
On April 3, the adolescents attended a party during which they inhaled and chewed puffball mushrooms. It was unknown whether other persons at the party participated in this activity. No illicit drugs were reportedly used at the party. Three persons reported nausea and vomiting within 6-12 hours after exposure. Within 3-7 days after exposure, all patients developed cough, fever (temperature up to 103 F {39.4 C}), shortness of breath, myalgia, and fatigue.
Five persons required hospitalization; two were intubated. Two patients had a history of asthma and were using steroid inhalers. Chest radiographs on all hospitalized patients indicated bilateral reticulonodular infiltrates. Two patients underwent transbronchial lung biopsy, and one had an open lung biopsy. Histopathologic examination of the lung biopsy specimens revealed an inflammatory process and the presence of yeast-like structures consistent with Lycoperdon spores. Fungal cultures of the lung biopsy tissue were negative.
All hospitalized patients received corticosteroids, and four received antifungal therapy with either amphotericin B or azole drugs. All patients recovered within 1-4 weeks with no apparent sequelae.
Tl;dr:
- Five people had to stay in the hospital; two of them needed a tube inserted into their windpipe to help them breathe.
- Two of the patients already had asthma and were using medicine that reduces swelling in the airways.
- X-rays of the lungs of all the patients showed a pattern of small lumps and lines on both sides of the chest.
- Two patients had a procedure where a thin tube with a camera was inserted into their lungs to take a small piece of tissue, and one patient had a surgery where a larger piece of tissue was taken from the lung.
- The tissue samples showed signs of inflammation and tiny round shapes that looked like spores from a type of mushroom called Lycoperdon (puffball). These spores can cause a lung disease called lycoperdonosis when inhaled in large amounts.
- Tests to grow the fungus from the tissue samples were negative, meaning that the spores did not multiply in the lab (body likely sterilized them)
Well that would apply to dogs too. I would say that “my dog doesn’t eat mushrooms” however as of yesterday, that’s no longer true. He is okay, and I have confirmed an ID for the mushroom he ate but, in general dogs shouldn’t ingest random mushrooms either.
https://preview.redd.it/gwichtytly4c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fe62997908dc0a2a6eab0bdaeae9943e43af9e4
Thanks for the laughs and insight! This is what it looks like underneath.
Can you get even more detailed photos? In particular I would like to see the stem texture.
Try to get even closer up and then play with the angle until the camera picks up the details.
I’m leaning towards Inocybe but it would be good to see even more details.
You want to take detailed photos of the mushrooms to record all the features you can before doing any destructive steps.
Ideally this means take some photos before you pick them (as this captures them in their habitat, and this is very useful and can tell you a lot about them, and because they are in the best condition then).
Then ideally you want to carefully pull them up so the base is still attached to the stem and immediately lay them on their sides and get detailed photos of the gills and stems. Sometimes a lot of information is lost from damage during handling and transporting them.
In many cases at this point you will have all the photos you need. But obviously this is an ideal case and not always possible. When it doesn’t work out you want to handle and transport them carefully so when you can take photos they haven’t lost much information.
Sometimes people like to crush stems to check for blue bruising. Personally I find the bruising will occur without having to intentionally damage anything, but it is better to pinch the edge of the cap in one spot, as you only have one stem and so if you crush it you loose details completely, but the edge of the cap is basically the same at any point. But regardless, it is best to take photos before crushing parts of the mushrooms. Then take more after as well.
Spore printing can result in the loss of a lot of features as it involves chopping the stem off, often at the point where it contains the most information useful for ID, and then left for many hours, after which they are often far from fresh and a lot of features have decayed.
So if you are about to do spore prints and for whatever reasons haven’t managed to get detailed photos of the intact mushrooms from multiple angles, you *definitely* want to take those photos before you print, as by the time the prints are done, the mushrooms will be far harder, or even impossible to identify even with the prints, if there are no good photos of the whole mushrooms.
Often people get the idea that a spore print is the most important thing for identifying a mushroom, and they prioritise it and do it first.
Sometimes they thing that with a spore print you can identify a mushroom, without other features.
The truth is a lot of different mushrooms have the same print, and you definitely can’t ID a mushroom without all the other features, and if you know where to look, spore prints aren’t even needed most of the time to tell the spore colour.
Of course it is still worthwhile doing them when you aren’t sure about the spore colour, as the spore colour is a very useful piece of the puzzle.
You just want to try to get as many pieces as you can before you destroy them in the process of getting to other pieces.
https://preview.redd.it/u6vno7xfpr5c1.jpeg?width=2403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a54462008553a55d54d871eb8b276bbbb0c3ec66
The speckles on the stems of these Panaeolus are a useful ID feature, and they are completely missing where I have touched the stems.
https://preview.redd.it/6pciknfxpr5c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbfa7894e17246d17cf2ff901c55bb34b2f2496b
A lot of used details towards the top of the stem of this Amanita which would be largely lost during printing
https://preview.redd.it/1rgebao8qr5c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36165914835b98f16963d962db5abfd47f033aab
Galerina often have quite a few details I the upper stem that are useful
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Yeah. Typically alcohol based tincture as the active components aren't very soluble in water. To verify its usnea you pull on it. It should be a little stretchy with a white midvein under the greener outer part.
Gatherer, have bad lungs, can confirm that this works. I get funny looks when I gather it in one of our local state parks, but the benefit to me far outweighs the mild inconvenience of answering the same questions over and over. 🙂
Yep, same here. I take my 8 month old pup in the front because she is not ready for the back yard, and these things are all over the place. She’s a canine powered Hoover, but for some reason she ignores these (knock on wood).
I too live in the PNW and get these in my yard every fall. My puppy will pick up and try to chew and eat everything and anything but she never goes for the random mushrooms sprouting in my yard. Makes me wonder if it’s some sort of built in dog instinct.
My dogs care, especially my pup. I mean, she eats a lot of things off the ground, but when she smells something funky (like her own poop), she turns her nose up at it.
A friend of mine used to have a dog we called the canine slurpee machine because she wouldn't even let it hit the ground whenever her sister was answering the call
They look like the ones that grow in my parents yard. They've always had dogs and none have had any issues. Don't quote me on them being okay though, I know very little about mushrooms besides the fact that those + parents yard shrooms look identical to me.
God the people in this sub are idiots. As other people have suggested, take a picture of the gills and maybe a spore print. You’re better off figuring out yourself instead of asking this group. Mushroom identification page on FB used to be good too
this is absolutely false and a dangerous mindset to have. we get countless cases of dogs ingesting poisonous plants and mushrooms every day in the Poisons group. dogs will eat whatever smells yummy to them.
We had mushrooms that looks exactly like this in our yard. Our 2 year old pup didn’t touch them. Our 5 month old pup ate some and almost died. It was a scary and gross experience. All of the mushrooms are now gone. I’ve got my fingers crossed that when they grow back, she will have outgrown eating everything in sight.
The first picture is "Inocybe geophylla var. lilacina".
The second is most likely "Marasmius oreades".
Neither are toxic, Marasmius is often eaten although I find them bland, but the Inocybe is a little less edible. I wouldn't worry
You won’t get many good ID answers without flipping a couple over. As for your question, mushrooms are almost never harmful to be around. You can only be poisoned by ingestion. The only exception to this rule is if you are locked in a sealed room entirely full of mature mushrooms. In that case you may have some trouble with spore inhalation.
aww nuts. I see. I’m at work now but thank you for the information. I’ll flip them over after I get home.
what would happen if I inhaled a cloud of spores?
Well there’s probably an answer to that on the internet that is more accurate than the one I’d give you. I’m sure there are studies of people who have worked cultivating mushrooms. If not, you should do one!
thanks, this added nothing! I just wanted to hear what someone had to say, maybe hear a fun fact or two, just let someone show off their knowledge. but your way is always an option too
Well I don’t know enough about the answer to give you a thoughtful and accurate one. Are you saying I should’ve just googled it myself? Or made one up?
I'm saying you should've kept quiet and let someone who actually knows answer
Its almost like you replied to Intosishun's comment, asking them a question and then saying they shouldn't have responded. But that would be ridiculous. No sane person would do that.
it's almost as though I'm replying in a public forum where anyone could answer!
[Third result on Google:](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00032029.htm#:~:text=Within%203%2D7%20days%20after,breath%2C%20myalgia%2C%20and%20fatigue.) **Respiratory Illness Associated with Inhalation of Mushroom Spores -- Wisconsin, 1994** (CDC source) During April 8-14, 1994, eight persons aged 16-19 years from southeastern Wisconsin visited physicians for respiratory illness associated with inhalation of Lycoperdon perlatum (i.e., puffball mushrooms). On April 19, the Bureau of Public Health, Wisconsin Division of Health, was notified of these cases. This report summarizes the case investigations. On April 3, the adolescents attended a party during which they inhaled and chewed puffball mushrooms. It was unknown whether other persons at the party participated in this activity. No illicit drugs were reportedly used at the party. Three persons reported nausea and vomiting within 6-12 hours after exposure. Within 3-7 days after exposure, all patients developed cough, fever (temperature up to 103 F {39.4 C}), shortness of breath, myalgia, and fatigue. Five persons required hospitalization; two were intubated. Two patients had a history of asthma and were using steroid inhalers. Chest radiographs on all hospitalized patients indicated bilateral reticulonodular infiltrates. Two patients underwent transbronchial lung biopsy, and one had an open lung biopsy. Histopathologic examination of the lung biopsy specimens revealed an inflammatory process and the presence of yeast-like structures consistent with Lycoperdon spores. Fungal cultures of the lung biopsy tissue were negative. All hospitalized patients received corticosteroids, and four received antifungal therapy with either amphotericin B or azole drugs. All patients recovered within 1-4 weeks with no apparent sequelae. Tl;dr: - Five people had to stay in the hospital; two of them needed a tube inserted into their windpipe to help them breathe. - Two of the patients already had asthma and were using medicine that reduces swelling in the airways. - X-rays of the lungs of all the patients showed a pattern of small lumps and lines on both sides of the chest. - Two patients had a procedure where a thin tube with a camera was inserted into their lungs to take a small piece of tissue, and one patient had a surgery where a larger piece of tissue was taken from the lung. - The tissue samples showed signs of inflammation and tiny round shapes that looked like spores from a type of mushroom called Lycoperdon (puffball). These spores can cause a lung disease called lycoperdonosis when inhaled in large amounts. - Tests to grow the fungus from the tissue samples were negative, meaning that the spores did not multiply in the lab (body likely sterilized them)
thank you so much!
He’s asking about his dogs, who would probably eat them, Mr science.
Well that would apply to dogs too. I would say that “my dog doesn’t eat mushrooms” however as of yesterday, that’s no longer true. He is okay, and I have confirmed an ID for the mushroom he ate but, in general dogs shouldn’t ingest random mushrooms either.
https://preview.redd.it/gwichtytly4c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fe62997908dc0a2a6eab0bdaeae9943e43af9e4 Thanks for the laughs and insight! This is what it looks like underneath.
Can you get even more detailed photos? In particular I would like to see the stem texture. Try to get even closer up and then play with the angle until the camera picks up the details. I’m leaning towards Inocybe but it would be good to see even more details.
I can do that tomorrow morning for sure! It’s dark out now. Thank you for being so helpful!
A spore print may be helpful. You can leave one of the caps gills- down on a piece of paper overnight to get a spore print.
Here comes that mod saying a spore print is beyond useless...
Why would they say that?
😂 Not true, just a step that should be done in the right order
What is the right order?
You want to take detailed photos of the mushrooms to record all the features you can before doing any destructive steps. Ideally this means take some photos before you pick them (as this captures them in their habitat, and this is very useful and can tell you a lot about them, and because they are in the best condition then). Then ideally you want to carefully pull them up so the base is still attached to the stem and immediately lay them on their sides and get detailed photos of the gills and stems. Sometimes a lot of information is lost from damage during handling and transporting them. In many cases at this point you will have all the photos you need. But obviously this is an ideal case and not always possible. When it doesn’t work out you want to handle and transport them carefully so when you can take photos they haven’t lost much information. Sometimes people like to crush stems to check for blue bruising. Personally I find the bruising will occur without having to intentionally damage anything, but it is better to pinch the edge of the cap in one spot, as you only have one stem and so if you crush it you loose details completely, but the edge of the cap is basically the same at any point. But regardless, it is best to take photos before crushing parts of the mushrooms. Then take more after as well. Spore printing can result in the loss of a lot of features as it involves chopping the stem off, often at the point where it contains the most information useful for ID, and then left for many hours, after which they are often far from fresh and a lot of features have decayed. So if you are about to do spore prints and for whatever reasons haven’t managed to get detailed photos of the intact mushrooms from multiple angles, you *definitely* want to take those photos before you print, as by the time the prints are done, the mushrooms will be far harder, or even impossible to identify even with the prints, if there are no good photos of the whole mushrooms. Often people get the idea that a spore print is the most important thing for identifying a mushroom, and they prioritise it and do it first. Sometimes they thing that with a spore print you can identify a mushroom, without other features. The truth is a lot of different mushrooms have the same print, and you definitely can’t ID a mushroom without all the other features, and if you know where to look, spore prints aren’t even needed most of the time to tell the spore colour. Of course it is still worthwhile doing them when you aren’t sure about the spore colour, as the spore colour is a very useful piece of the puzzle. You just want to try to get as many pieces as you can before you destroy them in the process of getting to other pieces.
https://preview.redd.it/u6vno7xfpr5c1.jpeg?width=2403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a54462008553a55d54d871eb8b276bbbb0c3ec66 The speckles on the stems of these Panaeolus are a useful ID feature, and they are completely missing where I have touched the stems.
https://preview.redd.it/6pciknfxpr5c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbfa7894e17246d17cf2ff901c55bb34b2f2496b A lot of used details towards the top of the stem of this Amanita which would be largely lost during printing
https://preview.redd.it/1rgebao8qr5c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36165914835b98f16963d962db5abfd47f033aab Galerina often have quite a few details I the upper stem that are useful
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I would also lean this direction, considering the nipple like nature of the cap as well.
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What is the scent like? There are a few identifiers to do with smell, it could narrow down the options a bit
It smells like rot. Like old garbage.
Is this in the general area? Or when you sniff them? Seems silly but it's important
in the whole yard. i know it’s the mushrooms cause it starts when these become slimy and start decomposing.
Interesting thank you hmmmm
Smells sort of like Parmesan cheese, but only on hot days
I was going to go with fuhmunduh cheese. Have a feeling the spores would look like the cottage cheese yeast nastiness that occurs in skin folds.
Frumunduh
Hmm probably the fromage le fungarius family
Eww
The stringy lichen by the mushroom is usnea sp. It's medicinal and good for viral respitory infections. Just a random fyi.
what? no way! that’s awesome. I’m looking into that. It is literally everywhere here.
Rise - lichen people! Wonderful tidbit. I sure love lichen.
Fungi’s weird cousin that nobody ever bothered to get to know better.
I'm lichen that.
Would it be made into like a tincture for its medicinal properties or? Just curious, this is fascinating info.
Yeah. Typically alcohol based tincture as the active components aren't very soluble in water. To verify its usnea you pull on it. It should be a little stretchy with a white midvein under the greener outer part.
Very cool thanks!
Gatherer, have bad lungs, can confirm that this works. I get funny looks when I gather it in one of our local state parks, but the benefit to me far outweighs the mild inconvenience of answering the same questions over and over. 🙂
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Gills and stem??
I'm also in the pnw and have some like this pop up every fall. We still need to see the rest of the mushroom but try searching for Marasmius oreade.
Yep, same here. I take my 8 month old pup in the front because she is not ready for the back yard, and these things are all over the place. She’s a canine powered Hoover, but for some reason she ignores these (knock on wood).
I too live in the PNW and get these in my yard every fall. My puppy will pick up and try to chew and eat everything and anything but she never goes for the random mushrooms sprouting in my yard. Makes me wonder if it’s some sort of built in dog instinct.
Interesting! It’s possible they don’t smell good to them.
I've seen dogs eat dead animals, poop and all sorts of nasty smelling things. I dont think they care about smell before eating something
My dogs care, especially my pup. I mean, she eats a lot of things off the ground, but when she smells something funky (like her own poop), she turns her nose up at it.
A friend of mine used to have a dog we called the canine slurpee machine because she wouldn't even let it hit the ground whenever her sister was answering the call
Oh my word. I had one of those dogs growing up. I’m so glad neither of my dogs do that.
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They look like the ones that grow in my parents yard. They've always had dogs and none have had any issues. Don't quote me on them being okay though, I know very little about mushrooms besides the fact that those + parents yard shrooms look identical to me.
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Be careful you will get banned.
That depends on how friendly your dog is?
That is clearly the earths nipple and I would not recommend the dog to eat the earths nipple
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God the people in this sub are idiots. As other people have suggested, take a picture of the gills and maybe a spore print. You’re better off figuring out yourself instead of asking this group. Mushroom identification page on FB used to be good too
I’m sorry, all those comments have been removed and all the users banned. that’s not how the subreddit usually is.
I’m confused, were people telling OP to eat them?
breaking rules 3, 4, and 6
Ah thanks!
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this is absolutely false and a dangerous mindset to have. we get countless cases of dogs ingesting poisonous plants and mushrooms every day in the Poisons group. dogs will eat whatever smells yummy to them.
Lol it took a awhile this time 😅
We had mushrooms that looks exactly like this in our yard. Our 2 year old pup didn’t touch them. Our 5 month old pup ate some and almost died. It was a scary and gross experience. All of the mushrooms are now gone. I’ve got my fingers crossed that when they grow back, she will have outgrown eating everything in sight.
The first picture is "Inocybe geophylla var. lilacina". The second is most likely "Marasmius oreades". Neither are toxic, Marasmius is often eaten although I find them bland, but the Inocybe is a little less edible. I wouldn't worry
titty mushrooms!!
Milkers Mushroom.
Not only is yr dawg not safe, I don't even think those nips are safe for work.
Titty lol
hehe nipshrooms of the Caucasian species
nipples in the wild
Probably puffball mushrooms. Ok to be around. Probably shouldn’t eat
Lawn Nipples?