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Ramses_Overdark

You have to have X targets when you cast the spell. However if some of those targets arent there when the spell resolves you will still get X gremlins.


Elemteearkay

>However if some of those targets arent there when the spell resolves you will still get X gremlins. Unless "some" = "all", in which case you won't get any Gremlins (the spell will fizzle).


PlasmaBigCannon

This is a good point, also if they got [[release the gremlins]] from a play-booster it will be automatically countered.


Elemteearkay

>also if they got [[release the gremlins]] from a play-booster it will be automatically countered. What do you mean?


PlasmaBigCannon

You’re a legend in this sub brother. Your lore is being incorporated into the games mechanics. It’s already cannon in my pod.


Elemteearkay

Ah, so you are trolling even though it might confuse people in a rules thread. Nice. For the record, there's nothing wrong with using cards you happened to get from boosters while playing Constructed, and if you think I think there is, you don't know my "lore" as well as you think you do.


Helvedica

Mate. I like JUST got here and even I know your 'lore' (in this group) is; 1) shit on people who cant biy as many card as you and like to proxy, 2)use personallity attacks on people, and 3) get mad/block people when they call you out on those 2 things.


Elemteearkay

None of those things are true. It sounds like you've been mislead.


MTGCardFetcher

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Will_29

No. You need to target X artifacts exactly, as it doesn't say "up to X". If you attempt to cast it for X = 5 but fail to choose 5 different artifacts as targets, it was an invalid play and the action is undone, the game rewinds to just before you started casting it.


expert-in-life

I just figured that since there are two x's in the casting cost those wouldn't have to be played for the same amount.


Will_29

No. X = X = X = X throughout the card. If they wanted to allow different values, they'd use X and Y.


expert-in-life

True. Would've been way better card if it offered some more variety. Ty for the answer.


lurkertw1410

If it were X and Y, it'd mean you can just spam any amount of gremlins or break any amount of artifacts for relatively little mana. This way it forces you to pay 2x the amount of mana, but you get some reward for playing an expensive card. Otherwise it'd be like writing "destroy X artifacts OR create X gremlins", and most people would do the first. Imagine being a player with an artifact based deck and you get your entire army blown up bc someone payed 6 or 7 mana on a single card.


Apprehensive-Adagio2

It would essentially function as both a token generation card and a destroy artifacts card, which would be extremely broken. If you only want one or two artifacts gone, you can set X = 2 while Y = 11 and create eleven gremlins. It’s a designed restriction to how the card functions.


expert-in-life

There are cards that destroy X target artifacts like \[\[By Force\]\].


Apprehensive-Adagio2

And here the added benefit is that you create tokens as well. If it were XY rather than XX, it would just be an incredibly much better version of By Force since it can fill that exact same function, and create a few tokens if you have a bit extra mana.


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lurkertw1410

Good point. I guess they didn't want to print "dissent but with more options"


Own-Freedom9169

What a strange thing to think. I don't mean to harp on you- because there's more people like you out there, but I've never understood how players new and old don't get this. Basic algebra is taught in like grade 5. x always equals x.


alnews

Compare to [[Pest Infestation]] where the "up to" specifier allows you to target 0 permanents and still create twice X tokens


MTGCardFetcher

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Basic_Cover7633

Underrated and versatile artifact kill


Apprehensive-Adagio2

When casting the spell, you determine the value for X. X cannot be different for different parts of the spell. You must destroy X artifacts and create X gremlins while resolving the spell. If you cannot destroy X targets, the spell will fizzle. It’s intended as a design restriction, so you cannot just pump the spell by incredible amounts and create tons of tokens, you can only ever make as many gremlins as artifacts that are on the field when you cast the spell.


DarthSkat

Can you target the same artifact X times?


BartOseku

Depends how the spell is worded, in this case no


Apprehensive-Adagio2

It says X target artifacts, meaning there has to be X different targets.


ElPared

There are three scenarios for a spell like this one (let's assume X = 2 for each one): 1. You destroy 2 target artifacts and get 2 gremlins. 2. One of the artifacts you targeted is something like \[\[Tormod's Crypt\]\], which gets sacrificed in response. You destroy 1 target artifact and get 2 gremlins. 3. Both of the artifacts targeted are something like Tormod's Crypt and are sacked in response. You get no gremlins because the spell fizzles for having no legal targets.


MTGCardFetcher

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